Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
If there's anything that this election cycle gives me hope about, it's that it is painfully obvious that the american people are finally fed up with politics as usual. On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 6:05 PM, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > True. If we could only get rid of

[AFMUG] OT Texan Who Posted Extreme Views Loses Runoff for State Education Post

2016-05-24 Thread Jaime Solorza
I am relieved Texan Who Posted Extreme Views Loses Runoff for State Education Post http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/25/us/texan-who-posted-extreme-views-loses-runoff-for-state-education-post.html

Re: [AFMUG] ipv4 vs ipv6 FIB size

2016-05-24 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Let's see if we can get afrinic to release all that unused /8 space and encourage everyone to advertise it as individual /22 to /24 pieces! *cringe* On May 24, 2016 9:27 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" wrote: > To wit? > > > > Not sure if this gives credence to my frustration with

Re: [AFMUG] ipv4 vs ipv6 FIB size

2016-05-24 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
For further historical graphs: v4: http://tinyurl.com/y9hf6qs v6: http://tinyurl.com/jj83yy2 > On May 24, 2016, at 10:16 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > > I've been running a script for the last few months which grabs the current > size of the ipv4 and ipv6 FIBs for a full

Re: [AFMUG] ipv4 vs ipv6 FIB size

2016-05-24 Thread Sterling Jacobson
To wit? Not sure if this gives credence to my frustration with the whole IPv6 ‘transition’ and lack of IPv4, or if it means IPv6 is somehow more optimal. I’m thinking the former. And I’m thinking it’s the CDN/content providers fault. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric

[AFMUG] ipv4 vs ipv6 FIB size

2016-05-24 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I've been running a script for the last few months which grabs the current size of the ipv4 and ipv6 FIBs for a full routing table, once a day, and writes it to an RRA. here's the results: http://imgur.com/a/iJfPT That chart with the green is actually drawing both v4 and v6 on the same chart.

Re: [AFMUG] Is Mfi dead?

2016-05-24 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Oh, ok, I must have missed that announcement. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 8:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is Mfi dead? They said it was dead. They are working on a similar product line I think On May 24, 2016 8:49

Re: [AFMUG] Is Mfi dead?

2016-05-24 Thread Josh Reynolds
They said it was dead. They are working on a similar product line I think On May 24, 2016 8:49 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" wrote: > Who knows. > > > > They say it’s not. > > > > But they need to move on it soon if they want to stay relevant in the IoT > market. > > > > > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] Is Mfi dead?

2016-05-24 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Who knows. They say it’s not. But they need to move on it soon if they want to stay relevant in the IoT market. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 3:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is Mfi dead? I think ubnt management has

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: Packetflux Generator Controller

2016-05-24 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Sort of. We sold a total of around 80 (over a few years). There were some manufacturability issues which needed to be dealt with (why there's 80 instead of 100 - not a good yield). Fixing those with the current design isn't really practical. Reordering and making just a few more of the

Re: [AFMUG] OT MS Access alternatives

2016-05-24 Thread Cameron Crum
Maybe SQLServer Express? It's free. I guess it depends on what you are doing with database. On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 5:41 PM, SmarterBroadband < li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote: > Home, maybe. Looks like it. I’m just reading the web page. > > > > This is interesting for people who need

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Jaime Solorza
I read it as Freshman Candide by VoltaireThe Prince by Machiavelli... works of Payne, Rousseau and Adam Smith...frosh and sophomore years...wish my school hadn't closed down.. ended up at Riverside High School...very different.. some of the books I read at a Jesuit school were banned at

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: Packetflux Generator Controller

2016-05-24 Thread George Skorup
Ah man. That thing is awesome. I have one. We're probably going to change up our double transfer switch setup at the office. My design wasn't going to work the way I wanted it to. So I might not need the PacketFlux controller. Let me check with the boss and see if he's cool selling you this

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: Packetflux Generator Controller

2016-05-24 Thread Gerard Dupont III
I have one sitting on my desk that's still in the bag/box. Pre ordered it and never did anything with it once it came in. Give me whatever you think is fair and I'll get it shipped tomorrow. Gerard On Tuesday, May 24, 2016, Gino Villarini wrote: > yes > > On Tue, May 24,

[AFMUG] SM Isolation Question

2016-05-24 Thread Gerard Dupont III
On our fiber network I use port isolation and mac forced forwarding(not available in MikroTik) to accomplish layer2 isolation but still allow client to client unicast traffic. Proxy arp is as close to MACFF as you can get in MikroTik. I think you should be able to use option 2 if you use a

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: Packetflux Generator Controller

2016-05-24 Thread Gino Villarini
yes On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 8:23 PM, George Skorup wrote: > Did Forrest discontinue it!? > > On 5/24/2016 6:57 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: > >> Anyone has units for sale? >> > >

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: Packetflux Generator Controller

2016-05-24 Thread George Skorup
Did Forrest discontinue it!? On 5/24/2016 6:57 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Anyone has units for sale?

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Jason McKemie
True. If we could only get rid of these damn political parties... On Tuesday, May 24, 2016, Lewis Bergman wrote: > Republicans and dems are all the same. Everything is negotiable and > willing to be traded in order to get or keep power. And of course power is >

[AFMUG] WTB: Packetflux Generator Controller

2016-05-24 Thread Gino Villarini
Anyone has units for sale?

Re: [AFMUG] CMM4 Question

2016-05-24 Thread Gino Villarini
Netonix On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Craig Schmaderer wrote: > Crap, I didn’t realize that it doesn’t do 1gb but I do remember that being > talked about a while back, I guess I will go back to a ctm2 or maybe call > forest and look at a sync pipe. > > > > *From:*

Re: [AFMUG] old competition

2016-05-24 Thread Jason McKemie
Are we sure this is a mistake? I've seen companies charge more for rural service than suburban / urban. The "no one sells internet less" is an error though (I hope so for their sake anyhow). On Tuesday, May 24, 2016, Chuck McCown wrote: > The pricing gaffe (if it was a gaffe)

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Lewis Bergman
Republicans and dems are all the same. Everything is negotiable and willing to be traded in order to get or keep power. And of course power is equivalent to money. Read the book the list is named after. The only exception is when you have a dictator like NK or Cuba where you just kill people who

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Jaime Solorza
Trump sued bank to get out of $40M debt after housing crash http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-sued-bank-40m-debt-housing-crash-article-1.2648758 It took 4 years to pay off a debt from my company... it was tough but I didn't declare bankruptcy...I guess I am stupid at business and

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Jaime Solorza
I don't believe the core belief claim holds true...they say one thing and practice another... many are hypocrites...they knocked Trump and now in bed with him?...in an effort to save face and party they are going to support someone who honestly is not good for USA. I am not a Republican, I

Re: [AFMUG] old competition

2016-05-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
Al Gore, inventor of the AlGorithm. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 5:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] old competition I didn't see a typo but there is a major grammatical error. "No one sells internet less". I assume they meant " for less" instead of selling less

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
Watch out for the ones who got their degree at Costco. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools I would have to take exception to the whole "the younger

Re: [AFMUG] OT MS Access alternatives

2016-05-24 Thread SmarterBroadband
Home, maybe. Looks like it. I’m just reading the web page. This is interesting for people who need occasional access. https://products.office.com/en-us/office-online/documents-spreadsheets-presentations-office-online Get started with Office Online now No install required. Choose

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Rory Conaway
The generation as a whole is not producing the same percentage of scientists or engineers as in the past. Even Mexico is producing more engineers then we are. Ask any of the manufacturers, Ubiquiti, Mimosa, etc… if they can find enough experienced engineers. Rory From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] OT MS Access alternatives

2016-05-24 Thread SmarterBroadband
I think the home version covers 5 different Users. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 3:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT MS Access alternatives The home version covers 5 seats and is only $99 a year….. From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] OT MS Access alternatives

2016-05-24 Thread Chuck McCown
Does that mean concurrent logins? That is pretty important in my application. From: SmarterBroadband Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:31 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT MS Access alternatives The home version covers 5 seats and is only $99 a year….. From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] OT MS Access alternatives

2016-05-24 Thread SmarterBroadband
The home version covers 5 seats and is only $99 a year….. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 3:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT MS Access alternatives No, $12/month total for 5 seats. They say 5 computers. One

Re: [AFMUG] OT MS Access alternatives

2016-05-24 Thread Bill Prince
Last time I got this, it was $99 (total) for 5 seats for a year. Plus you could add/remove seats at will. IOW, if someone got a new laptop, you could remove that "seat", and add another one. bp On 5/24/2016 3:23 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: No, $12/month total for 5

Re: [AFMUG] OT MS Access alternatives

2016-05-24 Thread Chuck McCown
Damn these rose colored glasses... From: Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT MS Access alternatives "per user" - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP

Re: [AFMUG] OT MS Access alternatives

2016-05-24 Thread Mike Hammett
"per user" - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 5:23:57 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT MS Access alternatives

Re: [AFMUG] OT MS Access alternatives

2016-05-24 Thread Chuck McCown
No, $12/month total for 5 seats. They say 5 computers. One would hope concurrent logins. From: SmarterBroadband Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT MS Access alternatives That is $12 per seat? Yes, 5 PC but I think only one login? ·

Re: [AFMUG] old competition

2016-05-24 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
we are looking at a LOS low hanging fruit plan with more speed for less money, but figure that will cause a stink On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > The pricing gaffe (if it was a gaffe) seems that why would anyone anyone > take rural residential when you

Re: [AFMUG] OT MS Access alternatives

2016-05-24 Thread SmarterBroadband
That is $12 per seat? Yes, 5 PC but I think only one login? · One license covers 5 phones, 5 tablets, & 5 PCs or Macs per user From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 8:48 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT MS

Re: [AFMUG] old competition

2016-05-24 Thread Chuck McCown
The pricing gaffe (if it was a gaffe) seems that why would anyone anyone take rural residential when you get residential for less price and more speed. -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:14 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] old competition

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Josh Reynolds
Another thing that gets me is how the GOP is actually "supporting" him, or at least trying to create the public appearance of it. Like, are you kidding me? You guys hated this guy's guts. You said all kinds of bad crap about him as both a person and as a presidential candidate, and now you

Re: [AFMUG] old competition

2016-05-24 Thread Travis Johnson
This is their "satellite" group that now resells Rise internet. They kept the Big Dog name even after selling the WISP to JAB/Rise. Travis On 5/24/2016 4:03 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: They didn't change their name to Rise? -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, May 24,

Re: [AFMUG] old competition

2016-05-24 Thread Bill Prince
One that was left too close to the urinal. bp On 5/24/2016 3:06 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: What’s a yellow page

Re: [AFMUG] old competition

2016-05-24 Thread Lewis Bergman
I see nothing wrong with the speed and pricing. You get more, you pay less right? besides, Everyone knows internet is used on a bell curve so the bookends are always lower than the middle. On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 5:09 PM Josh Reynolds wrote: > LOL I see that now :) I was

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Lewis Bergman
Wow...now I have to work on getting that image out of my head...thanks Josh. Besides that, not saying it is a valid point, just what I hear people saying.I haven't heard anyone say they like Trump, approve of what he has been saying, and still voted for him. They just are more sickened by everyone

Re: [AFMUG] old competition

2016-05-24 Thread Josh Reynolds
LOL I see that now :) I was looking for spelling errors! On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Look at the pricing and the speed. > > *From:* Lewis Bergman > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:06 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re:

Re: [AFMUG] old competition

2016-05-24 Thread Josh Reynolds
LOL I see that now :) I was looking for spelling errors! On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Look at the pricing and the speed. > > *From:* Lewis Bergman > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:06 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re:

Re: [AFMUG] old competition

2016-05-24 Thread Chuck McCown
Look at the pricing and the speed. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] old competition I didn't see a typo but there is a major grammatical error. "No one sells internet less". I assume they meant " for less" instead of selling less

Re: [AFMUG] old competition

2016-05-24 Thread Lewis Bergman
I didn't see a typo but there is a major grammatical error. "No one sells internet less". I assume they meant " for less" instead of selling less internet than anyone. Where is Al Gore when you need him to invent new ways to sell the internet. On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 5:04 PM Lewis Bergman

Re: [AFMUG] old competition

2016-05-24 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
no one sells internet less, maybe its a psyop to make people subconsciously think its so good they dont have to even sell it that it sells itself On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > The greater joy is knowing they still think spending big money on

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Josh Reynolds
This is the fascinating thing to me, is that somehow Trump isn't "status quo". Of course he is, he's used to be political. He's used to operating in and with the political spectrum, local and federal governments, etc. He's just not been a "politician" so he's been allowed to "get away with more"

Re: [AFMUG] old competition

2016-05-24 Thread Chuck McCown
What’s a yellow page From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] old competition The greater joy is knowing they still think spending big money on yellow page ads will ever pay back. I got left out ad could not tll the difference. We

Re: [AFMUG] old competition

2016-05-24 Thread Lewis Bergman
The greater joy is knowing they still think spending big money on yellow page ads will ever pay back. I got left out ad could not tll the difference. We received 8 complaints about not being there and when I asked how they found us they all said "web search". Huhmaybe that is why we aren't in

Re: [AFMUG] old competition

2016-05-24 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
more is better cheaper On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 5:03 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > They didn't change their name to Rise? > > -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, May 24, > 2016 3:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] old competition > Hey... > > It's

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
we are sullying up the gene pool in contradiction to what mother nature would prefer, theres no way to not acknowledge that. Eugenics is not good, but its not all that bad either On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Naw this lady is not young and

Re: [AFMUG] old competition

2016-05-24 Thread Chuck McCown
They didn't change their name to Rise? -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 3:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] old competition Hey... It's always fun to see a former competitor have a major typo in the brand new Yellowpage book that just

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Lewis Bergman
I think you are wrong about Trump likely voters. Everyone that I have talked to, admittedly an extremely unscientifically small sample size with zero diversity, seem to be voting against all incumbent types instead of for Trump. It seems they are all kind of sick of the status quot and would elect

Re: [AFMUG] old competition

2016-05-24 Thread Darin Steffl
The image is small and low quality but I can't seem to find the major typo in there at first glance? On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: > Hey... > > It's always fun to see a former competitor have a major typo in the brand > new Yellowpage book that just came

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Jaime Solorza
Naw this lady is not young and doesn't represent much of Texas...but I see no distinction between her and Trump on unfounded beliefs with lemmings as followers... lots of gullible people out there...if they could come up with a unique thought their heads would explode On May 24, 2016 3:24 PM,

[AFMUG] old competition

2016-05-24 Thread Travis Johnson
Hey... It's always fun to see a former competitor have a major typo in the brand new Yellowpage book that just came out... they only have to live with it for a year. LOL Travis

Re: [AFMUG] Is Mfi dead?

2016-05-24 Thread Mike Hammett
They take feedback about as well too. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Eric Kuhnke" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:36:25 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Mathew Howard
Just imagine how much progress we'd make if every generation wasn't dumber/lazier than the previous! :P On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Generational bias seems to be a real thing. From the small amount of > research I've done, every generation seems

Re: [AFMUG] Is Mfi dead?

2016-05-24 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I think ubnt management has intentionally taken a page from the google playbook, with the method of 'try everything and be ready to abandon an unsuccessful product at any time'. But in this case with real manufacturing hardware rather than internet based services delivered in peoples'

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Josh Reynolds
Generational bias seems to be a real thing. From the small amount of research I've done, every generation seems to think the following generation is dumber/lazier than the one before it - yet we keep making more and more scientific progress. It also happens in reverse. On Tue, May 24, 2016 at

Re: [AFMUG] 37Km, 6Gbps

2016-05-24 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I am not sure how there could be, it is pretty much the polar opposite of a modulation and FEC that approaches the shannon limit. There are all sorts of satellite comm things (commercial and military) that will fall back to a BPSK 1/2 code rate during bad rain fade events in Ku, Ka and Q bands.

Re: [AFMUG] SM Isolation Question

2016-05-24 Thread Lewis Bergman
we ran SM isolation on all our AP's and never had to disable it when we used /30's and tunneling. On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 4:16 PM Craig Schmaderer wrote: > Yeah I was trying to keep this simple and leaving isolation on but it > looks like on that ap ill have to disable

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Didn't you know Idiocracy was a documentary? http://kutv.com/news/nation-world/bison-calf-euthanized-after-tourists-put-it-in-back-of-suv-nps-says On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 1:50 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > There seems to be this belief that science is some recent fad being > foisted

Re: [AFMUG] 37Km, 6Gbps

2016-05-24 Thread Chuck McCown
Is there a modulation more robust than OOK? Perhaps phase correlated for noise rejection. From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 3:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 37Km, 6Gbps There are some upcoming 60 GHz band 10 Gbps radios which are OOK (or BPSK) simply for the

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Lewis Bergman
I would have to take exception to the whole "the younger generation is stupid" . Yes, there are a ton of stupid people out there but I don't see evidence that the younger generations is any less intelligent than any other. Less experienced of course, just not dumber. I realize the anecdotal nature

Re: [AFMUG] 37Km, 6Gbps

2016-05-24 Thread Eric Kuhnke
There are some upcoming 60 GHz band 10 Gbps radios which are OOK (or BPSK) simply for the increased link budget, and because it makes them simpler to manufacture... The free GHz are there to use and it falls off so quickly in the air. They're trying to get to high reliability in 4 to 5 nines at

Re: [AFMUG] SM Isolation Question

2016-05-24 Thread Craig Schmaderer
Yeah I was trying to keep this simple and leaving isolation on but it looks like on that ap ill have to disable it. For what it is worth, I do believe that anyone that wants to run vpns between locations should be able to do it without any special treatment, From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
There seems to be this belief that science is some recent fad being foisted upon us, and we need to go back to some previous, supposedly better time like the 50's or 80's. But I was born in the 50's, and I can vouch that it was a very pro-science time. The Reagan years were pro-science. In

Re: [AFMUG] 37Km, 6Gbps

2016-05-24 Thread Chuck McCown
Even simpler. Crystal radio could demod those. From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 2:40 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 37Km, 6Gbps All of the first gen commercial 80 GHz products from 2006-2007 (gigabeam, Bridgewave) are basically OOK and use 5GHz each direction FDD,

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 5/24/16 13:33, Josh Reynolds wrote: I think I've gotten to the point where I believe that the lack of "survival of the fittest" (and sometimes simply the luckiest) is having a net-negative effect on our species. Except for a very narrow segment of the population, we are de-evolving. Let me

Re: [AFMUG] 37Km, 6Gbps

2016-05-24 Thread Eric Kuhnke
All of the first gen commercial 80 GHz products from 2006-2007 (gigabeam, Bridgewave) are basically OOK and use 5GHz each direction FDD, 1Gbps. On May 24, 2016 6:26 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Well when you have 5 GHz of BW, getting 6 Gbps out of it is not much of a > stretch.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Rory Conaway
I think we are going backwards in terms of education and motivation, especially in science, in the U.S. If it wasn't for the H1-B program, we would be a nation of morons. This generation for the most part is a complete waste of human intelligence. Rory -Original Message- From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Josh Reynolds
I think I've gotten to the point where I believe that the lack of "survival of the fittest" (and sometimes simply the luckiest) is having a net-negative effect on our species. Except for a very narrow segment of the population, we are de-evolving. On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Robert Andrews
The relationship between Sheldon and his mother is one of the true proofs of the brilliance of Chuck Lorre. Ruining his relationship with Chuck Lorre is the proof that Charlie Sheen is brain dead.. That said finding out you have HIV would probably drive a lot of wealthy people off the deep

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Robert Andrews
They move to Phoenix to live off their retired parents who had enough brains and good fortune to save for retirement... On 05/24/2016 01:21 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: Like Phoenix? Explains quite a bit. Rory *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown *Sent:* Tuesday,

Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

2016-05-24 Thread Ryan Mano
?i alsways find auto on cisco is betterwhen i try to lock it down radios are always half duplex or vice versa From: Af on behalf of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Rory Conaway
Like Phoenix? Explains quite a bit. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:44 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools They tend to congregate in the

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Robert Andrews
Now it's John Ringo... On 05/24/2016 12:15 PM, Bill Prince wrote: Damn. Now I have to rummage through my dusty book pile. bp On 5/24/2016 12:09 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: And then Huxley and Orwell when you get the primary ones done. *From:* Bill Prince

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Robert Andrews
They tend to die in the colder climates.. Something about going outside without clothes on... On 05/24/2016 11:44 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: They tend to congregate in the warmer climates... *From:* Rory Conaway *Sent:* Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:43 PM *To:*

Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

2016-05-24 Thread Chuck McCown
I have had lots of problems with Cisco auto. I always lock it down. From: Ryan Mano Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 2:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors ​cisco gear... i leave auto on ciscos

Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

2016-05-24 Thread Ryan Mano
?cisco gear... i leave auto on ciscos From: Af on behalf of Andreas Wiatowski Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 2:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors What type of switches/routers do you use?

Re: [AFMUG] CMM4 Question

2016-05-24 Thread Craig Schmaderer
Crap, I didn't realize that it doesn't do 1gb but I do remember that being talked about a while back, I guess I will go back to a ctm2 or maybe call forest and look at a sync pipe. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Mangriotis Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 2:37 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] CMM4 Question

2016-05-24 Thread Matt Mangriotis
Nothing will change to enable that on the CMM4. The CMM5 is coming in the next quarter that will indeed support this. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Andreas Wiatowski Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 2:34 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CMM4 Question Big question

Re: [AFMUG] CMM4 Question

2016-05-24 Thread Andreas Wiatowski
Big question is...can we get the ccm4 to do 1GB? Or do we have to wait for a CMM5? Cheers, __ Andreas Wiatowski | CEO Silo Wireless Inc. Email andr...@silowireless.com 19 Sage Court Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA) Tel +1.519.449.5656 Extension-600|Fax

Re: [AFMUG] CMM4 Question

2016-05-24 Thread Matt Mangriotis
Also, Craig... this is the exact reason that we made the dongle available. Matt From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 2:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CMM4 Question I use the dongles when I feed them from a CTM2 set for 430

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Bill Prince
Damn. Now I have to rummage through my dusty book pile. bp On 5/24/2016 12:09 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: And then Huxley and Orwell when you get the primary ones done. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:06 PM *To:*

Re: [AFMUG] CMM4 Question

2016-05-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
I use the dongles when I feed them from a CTM2 set for 430 power. At first I made my own, but now just buying the premade ones. From: Craig Schmaderer Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 2:09 PM To: mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] CMM4 Question Those of you that are using them, do you use the

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Chuck McCown
Lewis Padgett Mimsy were the borogoves. (Was actually two writers sharing the same pen name). From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:08 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG]OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools Cummings Norton Pohl On

[AFMUG] CMM4 Question

2016-05-24 Thread Craig Schmaderer
Those of you that are using them, do you use the dongles for the 450i, it looks like they are flipping the polarity on pins 5 and7, I assume this was an after thought when they moved to poe standard. I could do it on the feeder cables but then someone in the future might assume they are normal

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Chuck McCown
And then Huxley and Orwell when you get the primary ones done. From: Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools Heinlein, Herbert, Asimov. That's the shortest list.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Jaime Solorza
Cummings Norton Pohl On May 24, 2016 1:06 PM, "Bill Prince" wrote: > Heinlein, Herbert, Asimov. That's the shortest list. > > > bp > > > > On 5/24/2016 12:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > Dats cuz they ain’t never read Heinlein. > > *From:* Bill

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Bill Prince
Heinlein, Herbert, Asimov. That's the shortest list. bp On 5/24/2016 12:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Dats cuz they ain’t never read Heinlein. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:56 PM *To:* af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Jaime Solorza
she might have seen it on Ancient Aliens.. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 12:50 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > That's because the dumb ones up north get killed off in winter when they > forget to wear coats or come inside?

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Jaime Solorza
I HAVE. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Dats cuz they ain’t never read Heinlein. > > *From:* Bill Prince > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:56 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Chuck McCown
Dats cuz they ain’t never read Heinlein. From: Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools There are probably complimentary explanations. I like that in the warmer

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Bill Prince
There are probably complimentary explanations. I like that in the warmer climates, people stay out in the sun too long and get brain damage. I'm happy to let people believe whatever they want to believe, but I draw the line on making someone else have to believe what you believe. Some people

Re: [AFMUG] OT Texas board of education vote is critical for conservatives – and US schools

2016-05-24 Thread Lewis Bergman
That's because the dumb ones up north get killed off in winter when they forget to wear coats or come inside? I just got through listening to a woman at the table next to me exclaim how the Mayans built their 50 story pyramids in the U.S. in 30 days. She had a lot of detail in her "story". I hear

Re: [AFMUG] SM Isolation Question

2016-05-24 Thread Seth Mattinen
Sell the customer a VPLS-based solution. ~Seth

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