[AFMUG] site inverter +48

[TJ Trout]

Looking for a inverter with pure/true sine that's rack mountable with a
auto transfer switch, the only problem is I think most of these have
charging systems, if your already using a DC supply to float the batteries,
how do you handle this? Remove the DC supply? Put a large capacity diode on
the inverter's battery connection? Run separate batteries?

Thanks

TJ

Re: [AFMUG] Linksys

[Jaime Solorza]

I drank a soveriegn once, made me burp

Jaime Solorza

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 9:32 PM Steve Jones  wrote:

> Foxconn will be interesting. This factory is alot more than some us jobs
> to a nation wanting to be sovereign
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 11:31 AM Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>
>> And they make a LOT of wisp market products...
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 10:01 AM Mathew Howard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Foxconn is also building a $10 billion factory in Wisconsin...
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 8:01 AM, Harold Bledsoe 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Not to nitpick but Foxconn is actually a Taiwanese company.


 On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 1:13 AM Lewis Bergman 
 wrote:

> I am not a big Warren Buffet fan be he had a pretty nice explanation
> about what happens when a nation sells off its assets to another country.
>
> Just more of a trend of Chinese "companies", as if there were such a
> thing, buying up all over the world.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 12:09 AM Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> Granted, that's setting a pretty low bar though.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 11:00 PM, Chuck McCown 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Back in the day it was much better than Belkin.
>>>
>>> *From:* Jason McKemie
>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 9:57 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Linksys
>>>
>>>
>> I never really thought of Linksys as being a good thing.
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 26, 2018,  wrote:
>>>
>> Cisco bought linksys. Screwed up a good thing. Belden bought linksys
 all hell broke loose, making some of the worse products out there. I 
 guess
 it could only get better.

 Sent from my iPhone

 > On Mar 26, 2018, at 8:46 PM, Josh Reynolds 
 wrote:
 >
 > Cisco sold off Linksys to Belkin a few years back. Dunno bout
 wemo.
 >
 >> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:42 PM, Chuck McCown 
 wrote:
 >> “Foxconn buys Belkin, Linksys, and Wemo”
 >>
 >> I thought Cisco bought Linksys years ago?

>>>
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT My son Frank

[Jaime Solorza]

Dobrynochi comrades

Jaime Solorza

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 9:51 PM Mathew Howard  wrote:

> I just don't know... gotta be some kind of conspiracy. No more messages
> from Chuck since that one though... maybe the russian mob got him?
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 10:40 PM, Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> Sounds l8ke a russian mob hit on his own son... odd just last week the
>> reds were attacking the l8st, and now a coded message, i bet chuck doesnt
>> have a son named frank, its all a conspiracy man, he just took a hit out on
>> somebody, this is madness
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 9:49 PM Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I guess he thinks we have ESP and read his thoughts...
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 8:47 PM Lewis Bergman 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 That is quite the teaser

 On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 8:40 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT My son Frank

[Mathew Howard]

I just don't know... gotta be some kind of conspiracy. No more messages
from Chuck since that one though... maybe the russian mob got him?

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 10:40 PM, Steve Jones 
wrote:

> Sounds l8ke a russian mob hit on his own son... odd just last week the
> reds were attacking the l8st, and now a coded message, i bet chuck doesnt
> have a son named frank, its all a conspiracy man, he just took a hit out on
> somebody, this is madness
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 9:49 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> I guess he thinks we have ESP and read his thoughts...
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 8:47 PM Lewis Bergman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That is quite the teaser
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 8:40 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT My son Frank

[Steve Jones]

Sounds l8ke a russian mob hit on his own son... odd just last week the reds
were attacking the l8st, and now a coded message, i bet chuck doesnt have a
son named frank, its all a conspiracy man, he just took a hit out on
somebody, this is madness

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 9:49 PM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> I guess he thinks we have ESP and read his thoughts...
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 8:47 PM Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
>
>> That is quite the teaser
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 8:40 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] Linksys

[Steve Jones]

Foxconn will be interesting. This factory is alot more than some us jobs to
a nation wanting to be sovereign

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 11:31 AM Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> And they make a LOT of wisp market products...
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 10:01 AM Mathew Howard  wrote:
>
>> Foxconn is also building a $10 billion factory in Wisconsin...
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 8:01 AM, Harold Bledsoe 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Not to nitpick but Foxconn is actually a Taiwanese company.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 1:13 AM Lewis Bergman 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I am not a big Warren Buffet fan be he had a pretty nice explanation
 about what happens when a nation sells off its assets to another country.

 Just more of a trend of Chinese "companies", as if there were such a
 thing, buying up all over the world.


 On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 12:09 AM Jason McKemie <
 j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> Granted, that's setting a pretty low bar though.
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 11:00 PM, Chuck McCown 
> wrote:
>
>> Back in the day it was much better than Belkin.
>>
>> *From:* Jason McKemie
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 9:57 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Linksys
>>
>>
> I never really thought of Linksys as being a good thing.
>>
>> On Monday, March 26, 2018,  wrote:
>>
> Cisco bought linksys. Screwed up a good thing. Belden bought linksys
>>> all hell broke loose, making some of the worse products out there. I 
>>> guess
>>> it could only get better.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> > On Mar 26, 2018, at 8:46 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Cisco sold off Linksys to Belkin a few years back. Dunno bout wemo.
>>> >
>>> >> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:42 PM, Chuck McCown 
>>> wrote:
>>> >> “Foxconn buys Belkin, Linksys, and Wemo”
>>> >>
>>> >> I thought Cisco bought Linksys years ago?
>>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

[Jaime Solorza]

Never been an LMR fanboy

Jaime Solorza

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 8:51 PM Jeremy  wrote:

> I'm with Steve.  I spent way too much time removing LMR from towers to
> turn back now!
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 10:52 AM, Mark Radabaugh  wrote:
>
>> LTE has some characteristics that are desirable from a operation in NLOS
>> and difficult conditions and there is certainly a desire in the market to
>> have a non-proprietary solution available for the customers who require
>> that.Some WISP’s are much more of a investment vehicle and looking to
>> outside financing or acquisition than others.  Investors don’t like single
>> supplier solutions and it’s difficult to explain the value to them.
>>
>> On the other hand if you want a best in class product for LOS
>> environments and are less concerned about the investment value and more
>> concerned about performance and quality service the proprietary solutions
>> can be a better answer.
>>
>> Cambium’s just trying to make sure they have a product for both types of
>> customers.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> > On Mar 25, 2018, at 8:04 AM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:
>> >
>> > I cant understand why Cambium opens up another additional platform. Why
>> not develop 450 line further implementing some physical layer goodies of
>> LTE. I've seen this step with Wimax/PMP320 and all know where this ended up.
>> >
>> > Once they implemented LTE stuff it is outdated as 5G is moving in.
>> >
>> >
>> >> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> >> Von: Af  Im Auftrag von Matt Hoppes
>> >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. März 2018 20:37
>> >> An: af@afmug.com
>> >> Betreff: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE
>> >>
>> >> What’s known about the Cambium LTE product so far?
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

[Jeremy]

I'm with Steve.  I spent way too much time removing LMR from towers to turn
back now!

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 10:52 AM, Mark Radabaugh  wrote:

> LTE has some characteristics that are desirable from a operation in NLOS
> and difficult conditions and there is certainly a desire in the market to
> have a non-proprietary solution available for the customers who require
> that.Some WISP’s are much more of a investment vehicle and looking to
> outside financing or acquisition than others.  Investors don’t like single
> supplier solutions and it’s difficult to explain the value to them.
>
> On the other hand if you want a best in class product for LOS environments
> and are less concerned about the investment value and more concerned about
> performance and quality service the proprietary solutions can be a better
> answer.
>
> Cambium’s just trying to make sure they have a product for both types of
> customers.
>
> Mark
>
> > On Mar 25, 2018, at 8:04 AM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:
> >
> > I cant understand why Cambium opens up another additional platform. Why
> not develop 450 line further implementing some physical layer goodies of
> LTE. I've seen this step with Wimax/PMP320 and all know where this ended up.
> >
> > Once they implemented LTE stuff it is outdated as 5G is moving in.
> >
> >
> >> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> >> Von: Af  Im Auftrag von Matt Hoppes
> >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. März 2018 20:37
> >> An: af@afmug.com
> >> Betreff: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE
> >>
> >> What’s known about the Cambium LTE product so far?
> >
> >
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT My son Frank

[Jaime Solorza]

I guess he thinks we have ESP and read his thoughts...

Jaime Solorza

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 8:47 PM Lewis Bergman  wrote:

> That is quite the teaser
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 8:40 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT My son Frank

[Lewis Bergman]

That is quite the teaser

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 8:40 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

>

Re: [AFMUG] GPS antennas

[George Skorup]

You'll typically see GPS use standard SMA, not RP-SMA, if only to 
differentiate GPS and RF outputs. Cambium ePMP APs are this way. We also 
use some CDMA to POTS boxes that are set up this way as well.


I've also seen some GPS-disciplined 2-way simulcast oscillators use BNC. 
Most techs/installers typically convert that to N anyway and use LMR-400 
or 1/2" hard-line out to the antenna.


So my vote would be N because it's common and easy.

On 3/27/2018 8:54 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
But if you have to install an outdoor GPS antenna, are you OK with 
terminating an SMA on a cable for that?  Like RG58 or LMR195?

*From:* Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:49 PM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPS antennas
SMA is what I use on GPS and even on GPS repeaters Installed in 
several manufacturing plants across border.


Jaime Solorza
On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 7:39 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

What kind of GPS antennas does everyone prefer for outdoor mounting?
What kind of RF connectors are prefered?
I have a BITS clock completed (sans framing, will get back to that
someday). It is rack mounted.
But we have to cable it to an outside antenna.  So, the installers
will most likely have to terminate the cable.
BNC, N, F, SMA, Mini UHF, UHF, lotsa options.
What does the CMM family use for antennas and connectors?

Re: [AFMUG] GPS antennas

[Jaime Solorza]

I have done N to SMA adapter on two jobs where antenna had N connectors.
But most of the GPS antennas install in vehicle for tracking or 4G LTE
mobile NVRs have been SMA.

Jaime Solorza

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 7:54 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> But if you have to install an outdoor GPS antenna, are you OK with
> terminating an SMA on a cable for that?  Like RG58 or LMR195?
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:49 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPS antennas
>
> SMA is what I use on GPS and even on GPS repeaters Installed in several
> manufacturing plants across border.
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 7:39 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> What kind of GPS antennas does everyone prefer for outdoor mounting?
>> What kind of RF connectors are prefered?
>>
>> I have a BITS clock completed (sans framing, will get back to that
>> someday).  It is rack mounted.
>> But we have to cable it to an outside antenna.  So, the installers will
>> most likely have to terminate the cable.
>> BNC, N, F, SMA, Mini UHF, UHF, lotsa options.
>>
>> What does the CMM family use for antennas and connectors?
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] GPS antennas

[can...@believewireless.net]

N would be my vote.

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 9:56 PM, Jon Langeler 
wrote:

> N type is always a no brainer. RP-SMA also
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>
> On Mar 27, 2018, at 9:39 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
> What kind of GPS antennas does everyone prefer for outdoor mounting?
> What kind of RF connectors are prefered?
>
> I have a BITS clock completed (sans framing, will get back to that
> someday).  It is rack mounted.
> But we have to cable it to an outside antenna.  So, the installers will
> most likely have to terminate the cable.
> BNC, N, F, SMA, Mini UHF, UHF, lotsa options.
>
> What does the CMM family use for antennas and connectors?
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] GPS antennas

[Jon Langeler]

N type is always a no brainer. RP-SMA also 

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Mar 27, 2018, at 9:39 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> 
> What kind of GPS antennas does everyone prefer for outdoor mounting?
> What kind of RF connectors are prefered?
>  
> I have a BITS clock completed (sans framing, will get back to that someday).  
> It is rack mounted.
> But we have to cable it to an outside antenna.  So, the installers will most 
> likely have to terminate the cable.
> BNC, N, F, SMA, Mini UHF, UHF, lotsa options.
>  
> What does the CMM family use for antennas and connectors?

Re: [AFMUG] GPS antennas

[Chuck McCown]

But if you have to install an outdoor GPS antenna, are you OK with terminating 
an SMA on a cable for that?  Like RG58 or LMR195?

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:49 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPS antennas

SMA is what I use on GPS and even on GPS repeaters Installed in several 
manufacturing plants across border.


Jaime Solorza

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 7:39 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

  What kind of GPS antennas does everyone prefer for outdoor mounting?
  What kind of RF connectors are prefered?

  I have a BITS clock completed (sans framing, will get back to that someday).  
It is rack mounted.
  But we have to cable it to an outside antenna.  So, the installers will most 
likely have to terminate the cable.
  BNC, N, F, SMA, Mini UHF, UHF, lotsa options.

  What does the CMM family use for antennas and connectors?

Re: [AFMUG] GPS antennas

[Jaime Solorza]

SMA is what I use on GPS and even on GPS repeaters Installed in several
manufacturing plants across border.

Jaime Solorza

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 7:39 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> What kind of GPS antennas does everyone prefer for outdoor mounting?
> What kind of RF connectors are prefered?
>
> I have a BITS clock completed (sans framing, will get back to that
> someday).  It is rack mounted.
> But we have to cable it to an outside antenna.  So, the installers will
> most likely have to terminate the cable.
> BNC, N, F, SMA, Mini UHF, UHF, lotsa options.
>
> What does the CMM family use for antennas and connectors?
>

[AFMUG] OT My son Frank

[Chuck McCown]

[AFMUG] GPS antennas

[Chuck McCown]

What kind of GPS antennas does everyone prefer for outdoor mounting?
What kind of RF connectors are prefered?

I have a BITS clock completed (sans framing, will get back to that someday).  
It is rack mounted.
But we have to cable it to an outside antenna.  So, the installers will most 
likely have to terminate the cable.
BNC, N, F, SMA, Mini UHF, UHF, lotsa options.

What does the CMM family use for antennas and connectors?

Re: [AFMUG] Test - November 22 2013

[Chuck McCown]

GMT: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 12:59:20 AM


-Original Message- 
From: Larry Smith 
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:00 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Test - November 22 2013 



Received 1522198760

--
Larry Smith
lesm...@ecsis.net


On Tue March 27 2018 17:54, Jaime Solorza wrote:

The Unix Time thing?

Jaime Solorza

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 3:23 PM Robert  wrote:
> Received:   Thursday, 1 January 1970  for some who know...
>
> On 3/27/18 2:07 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
> > Received December 12 1998.
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 3:24 PM, Matt Hoppes
> >  > > wrote:
> >
> > Test sent November 22 2013 @ 1234
> >
> > Testing mailing list delay.

Re: [AFMUG] Test - November 22 2013

[Larry Smith]

Received 1522198760

-- 
Larry Smith
lesm...@ecsis.net


On Tue March 27 2018 17:54, Jaime Solorza wrote:
> The Unix Time thing?
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 3:23 PM Robert  wrote:
> > Received:   Thursday, 1 January 1970  for some who know...
> >
> > On 3/27/18 2:07 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
> > > Received December 12 1998.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 3:24 PM, Matt Hoppes
> > >  > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Test sent November 22 2013 @ 1234
> > >
> > > Testing mailing list delay.

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?

[Jon Langeler]

How do they handle say 0 deg F?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Mar 27, 2018, at 5:29 PM, SmarterBroadband  wrote:
> 
> OK first this UPS does NOT SNMP.
>  
> However that said the APC BG500 (APC Back-UPS Pro 500) with Lithium Ion 
> batteries is a nice little unit that comes with built in ethernet.   It does 
> have email alerting which you could use to send Text alerts to your phones.   
> We like them for micro sites.
>  
> Adam
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Justin Marshall
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:47 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?
>  
> Hi,
>  
> Does anyone know of any cheap consumer level UPS’s that can be monitored via 
> SNMP over ethernet?
> Something non-rack mountable and that doesn’t require external batteries?
> Everything I find wants to be monitored through USB with proprietary programs 
> like Powerchute, etc…
>  
> Thanks,
> Justin
>  

Re: [AFMUG] Test - November 22 2013

[Jaime Solorza]

The Unix Time thing?

Jaime Solorza

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 3:23 PM Robert  wrote:

> Received:   Thursday, 1 January 1970  for some who know...
>
> On 3/27/18 2:07 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
> > Received December 12 1998.
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 3:24 PM, Matt Hoppes
> >  > > wrote:
> >
> > Test sent November 22 2013 @ 1234
> >
> > Testing mailing list delay.
> >
> >
>

Re: [AFMUG] Test - November 22 2013

[Chuck McCown]

Epic (or is that epoch...)

-Original Message- 
From: Robert 
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 3:22 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Test - November 22 2013 


Received:   Thursday, 1 January 1970  for some who know...

On 3/27/18 2:07 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:

Received December 12 1998.

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 3:24 PM, Matt Hoppes 
> wrote:


Test sent November 22 2013 @ 1234

Testing mailing list delay.

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?

[SmarterBroadband]

OK first this UPS does NOT SNMP.

 

However that said the APC BG500 (APC Back-UPS Pro 500) with Lithium Ion
batteries is a nice little unit that comes with built in ethernet.   It does
have email alerting which you could use to send Text alerts to your phones.
We like them for micro sites.

 

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Justin Marshall
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:47 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?

 

Hi,

 

Does anyone know of any cheap consumer level UPS's that can be monitored via
SNMP over ethernet?

Something non-rack mountable and that doesn't require external batteries?

Everything I find wants to be monitored through USB with proprietary
programs like Powerchute, etc.

 

Thanks,

Justin

 

Re: [AFMUG] Test - November 22 2013

[Robert]

Received:   Thursday, 1 January 1970  for some who know...

On 3/27/18 2:07 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:

Received December 12 1998.

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 3:24 PM, Matt Hoppes 
> wrote:


Test sent November 22 2013 @ 1234

Testing mailing list delay.

Re: [AFMUG] Test - November 22 2013

[Mathew Howard]

Received December 12 1998.

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 3:24 PM, Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> Test sent November 22 2013 @ 1234
>
> Testing mailing list delay.
>

[AFMUG] Test - November 22 2013

[Matt Hoppes]

Test sent November 22 2013 @ 1234

Testing mailing list delay. 

Re: [AFMUG] OT Test uno dos tres it is Lent

[Mathew Howard]

I kind of got the impression that he was actually much more interested in
launching himself up in a rocket than he was in proving the earth is flat.

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 12:25 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> He could shave 150lbs off the weight and just launch a camera instead of
> himself.  Then he could devote the extra weight to fuel.  Maybe instead of
> steam he could use ethanol and liquid oxygen to get some more serious
> thrust.  With a gyroscopic guidance system it could be directed to fly
> straight up and then he could recover the camera after the flight.
>
> Huhthis is starting to sound familiar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?
> v=Sykfqa3MKAg
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Jay Weekley" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 3/27/2018 12:53:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Test uno dos tres it is Lent
>
> He gets an A+ for engineering but it would have been a lot easier to rent
>> an airplane to fly that high.   I think the spectators were standing a
>> little too close.
>>
>> Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>>> On a totally different subject, did y’all catch rocket man and his Evel
>>> Knieval missile?
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UAHORcbvvQ
>>> The earth is indeed flat.  You heard it here first folks.
>>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 10:03 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Test uno dos tres
>>> This is merca, we count in mercan round here, not none of those weird
>>> south of the border numers. Cant trust no countin that starts with the name
>>> of a kids card game. My uncle daddy once told me, son, you aint never gonna
>>> amount to s@$t, but that dont mean you cant speak mercan in merca.
>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 3:32 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>>>
>>>cuatro, cinco, seis
>>>
>>>2018-03-24 10:46 PST
>>>
>>>bp
>>>
>>>
>>>On 3/24/2018 10:30 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>
Test
On Mar 18, 2018 8:30 PM, "Jaime Solorza"
 wrote:

I posted something a while ago

Jaime Solorza


>>>
>>> >> source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient>
>>> Virus-free. www.avg.com >> ature?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-
>>> email_content=emailclient>
>>>
>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT The Wild Country on Netflix

[Chuck McCown]

I lived in a small town just South of The Dalles.  Got poisoned at a drive 
thru hamburger stand called "The Handout".  They poisoned a salad bar inside 
and must have somehow got some of the lettuce from the salad bar on my 
hamburger.


Holy crap was I sick.

-Original Message- 
From: Robert

Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 2:03 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT The Wild Country on Netflix

I just started watching this..   The google mapped the present area...
Wow...

On 3/27/18 1:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
This series covers an Indian Rajneesh cult leader that took over the 
government in a county in Oregon.
They also committed biological warfare terrorism as part of their 
activities.
I lived in that county and was one of the victims of this domestic 
terrorism effort.
Interesting seeing people I knew back in the early 1980s showing up on 
this documentary. 

Re: [AFMUG] OT The Wild Country on Netflix

[Robert]

I just started watching this..   The google mapped the present area... 
Wow...


On 3/27/18 1:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
This series covers an Indian Rajneesh cult leader that took over the 
government in a county in Oregon.
They also committed biological warfare terrorism as part of their 
activities.
I lived in that county and was one of the victims of this domestic 
terrorism effort.
Interesting seeing people I knew back in the early 1980s showing up on 
this documentary.

Re: [AFMUG] OT The Wild Country on Netflix

[Zach Underwood]

Here is a podcast of someone that was raised has a  child in the cult

https://player.fm/series/being-there/being-in-a-cult

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 4:01 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> This series covers an Indian Rajneesh cult leader that took over the
> government in a county in Oregon.
> They also committed biological warfare terrorism as part of their
> activities.
>
> I lived in that county and was one of the victims of this domestic
> terrorism effort.
>
> Interesting seeing people I knew back in the early 1980s showing up on
> this documentary.
>
>



-- 
Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA)
My website 
advance-networking.com

[AFMUG] OT The Wild Country on Netflix

[Chuck McCown]

This series covers an Indian Rajneesh cult leader that took over the government 
in a county in Oregon.
They also committed biological warfare terrorism as part of their activities.

I lived in that county and was one of the victims of this domestic terrorism 
effort.  

Interesting seeing people I knew back in the early 1980s showing up on this 
documentary.  

Re: [AFMUG] OT Test uno dos tres it is Lent

[Robert]

interestingly enough, the ME263 was also "steam" powered.   As that is 
the expansion gas produced from the "t-stoff" and "z-stoff"


On 3/27/18 10:04 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
That's what the article I read said. There was some kind of issue with 
it holding/keeping the desired pressure.


bp


On 3/27/2018 10:03 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:

So apparently this thing is steam powered?

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 11:07 PM, Chuck McCown > wrote:


On a totally different subject, did y’all catch rocket man and his
Evel Knieval missile?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UAHORcbvvQ

The earth is indeed flat.  You heard it here first folks.
*From:* Steve Jones
*Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 10:03 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Test uno dos tres
This is merca, we count in mercan round here, not none of those
weird south of the border numers. Cant trust no countin that
starts with the name of a kids card game. My uncle daddy once told
me, son, you aint never gonna amount to s@$t, but that dont mean
you cant speak mercan in merca.
On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 3:32 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

cuatro, cinco, seis

2018-03-24 10:46 PST

bp


On 3/24/2018 10:30 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

Test
On Mar 18, 2018 8:30 PM, "Jaime Solorza"
 wrote:

I posted something a while ago

Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buttset recommendations

[Jay Weekley]

Don't go to Aliexpress.com and look for buttsets.

Adam Moffett wrote:

I had one of these:
https://www.ebay.com/i/322938920631?chn=ps
Though I paid more than $5 for it.  It was good enough for what it was 
for.


I was tempted to post some sort of inappropriate picture regarding 
sets of butts, but I've held myself back.  I must be getting older and 
wiser.




-- Original Message --
From: "Jay Weekley" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Sent: 3/27/2018 12:22:36 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Buttset recommendations

I need a new buttset and am looking for recommendations.  It doesn't 
have to be top of the line and my last used Ebay unit failed me at a 
very inopportune time so I'm looking for something new though not 
necessarily top of the line.



---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
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Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?

[George Skorup]

/system ups print oid

On 3/27/2018 1:05 PM, Justin Marshall wrote:


You are monitoring a UPS connected to a Mikrotik via USB using SNMP?  
Are you running the SNMP queries from the Mikrotik itself, or is the 
APC able to have an IP address you can query directly?


Can you give an example model of APC that allows this?

Thanks,

Justin

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason Wilson
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 27, 2018 1:50 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?

Most APC’s can be monitored over USP through a Mikrotik router (anyone 
with a USB port).  That is what we do for out smaller site, in-fact we 
usually add external batteries for longer runtime.


Jason

Jason Wilson

Remotely Located

Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.

530-651-1736 Office

530-748-9608 Cell

www.remotelylocated.com 



On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Justin Marshall > wrote:


Hi,

Does anyone know of any cheap consumer level UPS’s that can be 
monitored via SNMP over ethernet?


Something non-rack mountable and that doesn’t require external batteries?

Everything I find wants to be monitored through USB with proprietary 
programs like Powerchute, etc…


Thanks,

Justin

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?

[Justin Marshall]

I googled Mikrotik + APC, and came across 
https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:System/UPS

I think I see what you’re saying

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Justin Marshall
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 2:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?

You are monitoring a UPS connected to a Mikrotik via USB using SNMP?  Are you 
running the SNMP queries from the Mikrotik itself, or is the APC able to have 
an IP address you can query directly?

Can you give an example model of APC that allows this?

Thanks,
Justin

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 1:50 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?

Most APC’s can be monitored over USP through a Mikrotik router (anyone with a 
USB port).  That is what we do for out smaller site, in-fact we usually add 
external batteries for longer runtime.

Jason
Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736 Office
530-748-9608 Cell
www.remotelylocated.com

On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Justin Marshall 
> wrote:

Hi,

Does anyone know of any cheap consumer level UPS’s that can be monitored via 
SNMP over ethernet?
Something non-rack mountable and that doesn’t require external batteries?
Everything I find wants to be monitored through USB with proprietary programs 
like Powerchute, etc…

Thanks,
Justin

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?

[Justin Marshall]

You are monitoring a UPS connected to a Mikrotik via USB using SNMP?  Are you 
running the SNMP queries from the Mikrotik itself, or is the APC able to have 
an IP address you can query directly?

Can you give an example model of APC that allows this?

Thanks,
Justin

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 1:50 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?

Most APC’s can be monitored over USP through a Mikrotik router (anyone with a 
USB port).  That is what we do for out smaller site, in-fact we usually add 
external batteries for longer runtime.

Jason
Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736 Office
530-748-9608 Cell
www.remotelylocated.com


On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Justin Marshall 
> wrote:

Hi,

Does anyone know of any cheap consumer level UPS’s that can be monitored via 
SNMP over ethernet?
Something non-rack mountable and that doesn’t require external batteries?
Everything I find wants to be monitored through USB with proprietary programs 
like Powerchute, etc…

Thanks,
Justin

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?

[Jason Wilson]

Most APC’s can be monitored over USP through a Mikrotik router (anyone with a 
USB port).  That is what we do for out smaller site, in-fact we usually add 
external batteries for longer runtime.

Jason
Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736 Office
530-748-9608 Cell
www.remotelylocated.com

> On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Justin Marshall  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> Does anyone know of any cheap consumer level UPS’s that can be monitored via 
> SNMP over ethernet?
> Something non-rack mountable and that doesn’t require external batteries?
> Everything I find wants to be monitored through USB with proprietary programs 
> like Powerchute, etc…
>  
> Thanks,
> Justin

[AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?

[Justin Marshall]

Hi,

Does anyone know of any cheap consumer level UPS's that can be monitored via 
SNMP over ethernet?
Something non-rack mountable and that doesn't require external batteries?
Everything I find wants to be monitored through USB with proprietary programs 
like Powerchute, etc...

Thanks,
Justin

Re: [AFMUG] OT Test uno dos tres it is Lent

[Adam Moffett]

He could shave 150lbs off the weight and just launch a camera instead of 
himself.  Then he could devote the extra weight to fuel.  Maybe instead 
of steam he could use ethanol and liquid oxygen to get some more serious 
thrust.  With a gyroscopic guidance system it could be directed to fly 
straight up and then he could recover the camera after the flight.


Huhthis is starting to sound familiar: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sykfqa3MKAg




-- Original Message --
From: "Jay Weekley" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 3/27/2018 12:53:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Test uno dos tres it is Lent

He gets an A+ for engineering but it would have been a lot easier to 
rent an airplane to fly that high.   I think the spectators were 
standing a little too close.


Chuck McCown wrote:
On a totally different subject, did y’all catch rocket man and his 
Evel Knieval missile?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UAHORcbvvQ
The earth is indeed flat.  You heard it here first folks.
*From:* Steve Jones
*Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 10:03 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Test uno dos tres
This is merca, we count in mercan round here, not none of those weird 
south of the border numers. Cant trust no countin that starts with the 
name of a kids card game. My uncle daddy once told me, son, you aint 
never gonna amount to s@$t, but that dont mean you cant speak mercan 
in merca.

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 3:32 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

   cuatro, cinco, seis

   2018-03-24 10:46 PST

   bp
   

   On 3/24/2018 10:30 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

   Test
   On Mar 18, 2018 8:30 PM, "Jaime Solorza"
    wrote:

   I posted something a while ago

   Jaime Solorza




 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Test uno dos tres it is Lent

[Bill Prince]

That's what the article I read said. There was some kind of issue with 
it holding/keeping the desired pressure.


bp


On 3/27/2018 10:03 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:

So apparently this thing is steam powered?

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 11:07 PM, Chuck McCown > wrote:


On a totally different subject, did y’all catch rocket man and his
Evel Knieval missile?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UAHORcbvvQ

The earth is indeed flat.  You heard it here first folks.
*From:* Steve Jones
*Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 10:03 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Test uno dos tres
This is merca, we count in mercan round here, not none of those
weird south of the border numers. Cant trust no countin that
starts with the name of a kids card game. My uncle daddy once told
me, son, you aint never gonna amount to s@$t, but that dont mean
you cant speak mercan in merca.
On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 3:32 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

cuatro, cinco, seis

2018-03-24 10:46 PST

bp


On 3/24/2018 10:30 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

Test
On Mar 18, 2018 8:30 PM, "Jaime Solorza"
 wrote:

I posted something a while ago

Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] OT Test uno dos tres it is Lent

[Jason McKemie]

So apparently this thing is steam powered?

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 11:07 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> On a totally different subject, did y’all catch rocket man and his Evel
> Knieval missile?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UAHORcbvvQ
>
> The earth is indeed flat.  You heard it here first folks.
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 10:03 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Test uno dos tres
>
> This is merca, we count in mercan round here, not none of those weird
> south of the border numers. Cant trust no countin that starts with the name
> of a kids card game. My uncle daddy once told me, son, you aint never gonna
> amount to s@$t, but that dont mean you cant speak mercan in merca.
>
> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 3:32 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>
>> cuatro, cinco, seis
>>
>> 2018-03-24 10:46 PST
>>
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 3/24/2018 10:30 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>
>> Test
>>
>> On Mar 18, 2018 8:30 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I posted something a while ago
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buttset recommendations

[Adam Moffett]

I had one of these:
https://www.ebay.com/i/322938920631?chn=ps
Though I paid more than $5 for it.  It was good enough for what it was 
for.


I was tempted to post some sort of inappropriate picture regarding sets 
of butts, but I've held myself back.  I must be getting older and wiser.




-- Original Message --
From: "Jay Weekley" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Sent: 3/27/2018 12:22:36 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Buttset recommendations

I need a new buttset and am looking for recommendations.  It doesn't 
have to be top of the line and my last used Ebay unit failed me at a 
very inopportune time so I'm looking for something new though not 
necessarily top of the line.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Test uno dos tres it is Lent

[Jay Weekley]

He gets an A+ for engineering but it would have been a lot easier to 
rent an airplane to fly that high.   I think the spectators were 
standing a little too close.


Chuck McCown wrote:
On a totally different subject, did y’all catch rocket man and his 
Evel Knieval missile?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UAHORcbvvQ
The earth is indeed flat.  You heard it here first folks.
*From:* Steve Jones
*Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 10:03 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Test uno dos tres
This is merca, we count in mercan round here, not none of those weird 
south of the border numers. Cant trust no countin that starts with the 
name of a kids card game. My uncle daddy once told me, son, you aint 
never gonna amount to s@$t, but that dont mean you cant speak mercan 
in merca.

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 3:32 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

cuatro, cinco, seis

2018-03-24 10:46 PST

bp


On 3/24/2018 10:30 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

Test
On Mar 18, 2018 8:30 PM, "Jaime Solorza"
 wrote:

I posted something a while ago

Jaime Solorza




 
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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

[Mark Radabaugh]

LTE has some characteristics that are desirable from a operation in NLOS and 
difficult conditions and there is certainly a desire in the market to have a 
non-proprietary solution available for the customers who require that.Some 
WISP’s are much more of a investment vehicle and looking to outside financing 
or acquisition than others.  Investors don’t like single supplier solutions and 
it’s difficult to explain the value to them.

On the other hand if you want a best in class product for LOS environments and 
are less concerned about the investment value and more concerned about 
performance and quality service the proprietary solutions can be a better 
answer.

Cambium’s just trying to make sure they have a product for both types of 
customers.

Mark

> On Mar 25, 2018, at 8:04 AM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:
> 
> I cant understand why Cambium opens up another additional platform. Why not 
> develop 450 line further implementing some physical layer goodies of LTE. 
> I've seen this step with Wimax/PMP320 and all know where this ended up.
> 
> Once they implemented LTE stuff it is outdated as 5G is moving in. 
> 
> 
>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> Von: Af  Im Auftrag von Matt Hoppes
>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. März 2018 20:37
>> An: af@afmug.com
>> Betreff: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE
>> 
>> What’s known about the Cambium LTE product so far?
> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Linksys

[Josh Reynolds]

And they make a LOT of wisp market products...

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 10:01 AM Mathew Howard  wrote:

> Foxconn is also building a $10 billion factory in Wisconsin...
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 8:01 AM, Harold Bledsoe 
> wrote:
>
>> Not to nitpick but Foxconn is actually a Taiwanese company.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 1:13 AM Lewis Bergman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am not a big Warren Buffet fan be he had a pretty nice explanation
>>> about what happens when a nation sells off its assets to another country.
>>>
>>> Just more of a trend of Chinese "companies", as if there were such a
>>> thing, buying up all over the world.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 12:09 AM Jason McKemie <
>>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>>>
 Granted, that's setting a pretty low bar though.

 On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 11:00 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Back in the day it was much better than Belkin.
>
> *From:* Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 9:57 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Linksys
>
>
 I never really thought of Linksys as being a good thing.
>
> On Monday, March 26, 2018,  wrote:
>
 Cisco bought linksys. Screwed up a good thing. Belden bought linksys
>> all hell broke loose, making some of the worse products out there. I 
>> guess
>> it could only get better.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Mar 26, 2018, at 8:46 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Cisco sold off Linksys to Belkin a few years back. Dunno bout wemo.
>> >
>> >> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:42 PM, Chuck McCown 
>> wrote:
>> >> “Foxconn buys Belkin, Linksys, and Wemo”
>> >>
>> >> I thought Cisco bought Linksys years ago?
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buttset recommendations

[Nate Burke]

I've been happy with my Monoprice one.

On 3/27/2018 11:22 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
I need a new buttset and am looking for recommendations.  It doesn't 
have to be top of the line and my last used Ebay unit failed me at a 
very inopportune time so I'm looking for something new though not 
necessarily top of the line.

[AFMUG] OT: Buttset recommendations

[Jay Weekley]

I need a new buttset and am looking for recommendations.  It doesn't 
have to be top of the line and my last used Ebay unit failed me at a 
very inopportune time so I'm looking for something new though not 
necessarily top of the line.

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

These do  ship with a sticker, which says something to this effect.  Don't
remember the exact phrasing, probably need to review it as it may not be as
clear as I like.

I also think you'll like what we're doing to simplify the documentation for
our PoE and sync Products.

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 8:55 AM Sam Lambie  wrote:

> I feel like I have a good handle on your products and what they can do
> Forrest, but even a sticker on those products that let you know that you
> should make sure that you check your jumper settings before use would be
> good. Otherwise, your gear rocks and I appreciate it all.
>
> Sam
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 6:44 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
>> Let me rephrase..to be more complete.
>>
>> There are some docs, they're hard to find.  They're also not very pretty
>> and assume knowledge that some of our customers don't have.   This is what
>> we're fixing.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 6:39 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Long story short, there are some docs but they're hard to find.  We're
>>> fixing this.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 5:08 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>>>
 Ok I'll give it a shot as soon as I can. I wish there was some real
 documentation that came with them or at least a link to an updated user
 guide Or am I blind and I just stuck my foot in my mouth?

 On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 4:43 PM, George Skorup <
 george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote:

> Open up the injector. The jumper positions are printed on the board.
> Top left I believe.
>
> The default is -4/5 +7/8 and PowerA input on all four ports. So if you
> just plugged it in without any jumper changes, then you're pretty much
> trying to put ~1.5A on a single pair (one pair positive, the other 
> return).
> That's probably ungood.
>
> Jumper the other two pairs so you get -4/5 +7/8 -1/2 +3/6. Try the SS
> again and see if the port trips.
>
> On 3/26/2018 5:10 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:
>
> Well, since I don't have any spares of the  *PowerInjector Plus Sync
> - Gigabit Version,* I bought a couple as I have plans for other
> locations for Medusas. In the meantime, please tell me how to make sure
> that the jumpers are set correctly.
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 3:41 PM, Sam Lambie 
> wrote:
>
>> GPS is not physically connected to input of SyncInjector now daisy
>> chained from the other Syncinjectors, the AP is getting timing from 
>> Syncbox
>> jr via UGPS power setting on radio . Cat6 is 115' long.
>> I didn't even know that jumpering was an option. I guess I have to
>> RTFM for the jumper location on the syncinjector? Can you please point me
>> to the manual? I have never been able to find any documentation on these
>> things...
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 12:10 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, and you have the injector jumpered for all 4 pairs?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 12:09 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>>
 Is the sync pulse disabled or no gps receiver connected?

 How long of a wire?

 On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 9:52 AM Sam Lambie 
 wrote:

> Timing is being done on the Aux Port. Nothing going through the
> Power Port. I'll give the Gas tube version a shot if you got it.
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:37 AM,  wrote:
>
>> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>>
>> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power
>> that is causing the surge suppressor to fire.
>> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>>
>> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a
>> Medusa before.
>> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
>>
>>
>> *From:* Sam Lambie
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 9:18 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor
>> with Medusa
>>
>> I did pull it from the rack and let it float, no change, however,
>> I didn't reboot it while the card was floating.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 3:15 PM,  wrote:
>>
>>> When this gets sent
>>> Sorry you are having difficulty.
>>>
>>> I would pull it from the rack and see if the interruption of the
>>> ground fixes the problem.
>>>
>>> The issue is either noise to/from the ground.
>>> or
>>> Transverse impulses getting clamped.  Could be something about

Re: [AFMUG] Linksys

[Mathew Howard]

Foxconn is also building a $10 billion factory in Wisconsin...

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 8:01 AM, Harold Bledsoe 
wrote:

> Not to nitpick but Foxconn is actually a Taiwanese company.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 1:13 AM Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
>
>> I am not a big Warren Buffet fan be he had a pretty nice explanation
>> about what happens when a nation sells off its assets to another country.
>>
>> Just more of a trend of Chinese "companies", as if there were such a
>> thing, buying up all over the world.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 12:09 AM Jason McKemie <
>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Granted, that's setting a pretty low bar though.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 11:00 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>
 Back in the day it was much better than Belkin.

 *From:* Jason McKemie
 *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 9:57 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Linksys


>>> I never really thought of Linksys as being a good thing.

 On Monday, March 26, 2018,  wrote:

>>> Cisco bought linksys. Screwed up a good thing. Belden bought linksys all
> hell broke loose, making some of the worse products out there. I guess it
> could only get better.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 26, 2018, at 8:46 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
> >
> > Cisco sold off Linksys to Belkin a few years back. Dunno bout wemo.
> >
> >> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:42 PM, Chuck McCown 
> wrote:
> >> “Foxconn buys Belkin, Linksys, and Wemo”
> >>
> >> I thought Cisco bought Linksys years ago?
>

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

[Sam Lambie]

I feel like I have a good handle on your products and what they can do
Forrest, but even a sticker on those products that let you know that you
should make sure that you check your jumper settings before use would be
good. Otherwise, your gear rocks and I appreciate it all.

Sam

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 6:44 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> Let me rephrase..to be more complete.
>
> There are some docs, they're hard to find.  They're also not very pretty
> and assume knowledge that some of our customers don't have.   This is what
> we're fixing.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 6:39 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
>> Long story short, there are some docs but they're hard to find.  We're
>> fixing this.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 5:08 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>>
>>> Ok I'll give it a shot as soon as I can. I wish there was some real
>>> documentation that came with them or at least a link to an updated user
>>> guide Or am I blind and I just stuck my foot in my mouth?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 4:43 PM, George Skorup >> > wrote:
>>>
 Open up the injector. The jumper positions are printed on the board.
 Top left I believe.

 The default is -4/5 +7/8 and PowerA input on all four ports. So if you
 just plugged it in without any jumper changes, then you're pretty much
 trying to put ~1.5A on a single pair (one pair positive, the other return).
 That's probably ungood.

 Jumper the other two pairs so you get -4/5 +7/8 -1/2 +3/6. Try the SS
 again and see if the port trips.

 On 3/26/2018 5:10 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:

 Well, since I don't have any spares of the  *PowerInjector Plus Sync -
 Gigabit Version,* I bought a couple as I have plans for other
 locations for Medusas. In the meantime, please tell me how to make sure
 that the jumpers are set correctly.

 On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 3:41 PM, Sam Lambie 
 wrote:

> GPS is not physically connected to input of SyncInjector now daisy
> chained from the other Syncinjectors, the AP is getting timing from 
> Syncbox
> jr via UGPS power setting on radio . Cat6 is 115' long.
> I didn't even know that jumpering was an option. I guess I have to
> RTFM for the jumper location on the syncinjector? Can you please point me
> to the manual? I have never been able to find any documentation on these
> things...
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 12:10 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh, and you have the injector jumpered for all 4 pairs?
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 12:09 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Is the sync pulse disabled or no gps receiver connected?
>>>
>>> How long of a wire?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 9:52 AM Sam Lambie 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Timing is being done on the Aux Port. Nothing going through the
 Power Port. I'll give the Gas tube version a shot if you got it.

 On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:37 AM,  wrote:

> OK, so grounds are related to the problem.
>
> There may be something unusual with timing pulses on the power
> that is causing the surge suppressor to fire.
> Forrest would know much more than I about that.
>
> I honestly don’t know if anyone has tried my product with a Medusa
> before.
> I have a 100% gas tube version that may solve the problem.
>
>
> *From:* Sam Lambie
> *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 9:18 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor
> with Medusa
>
> I did pull it from the rack and let it float, no change, however,
> I didn't reboot it while the card was floating.
>
> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 3:15 PM,  wrote:
>
>> When this gets sent
>> Sorry you are having difficulty.
>>
>> I would pull it from the rack and see if the interruption of the
>> ground fixes the problem.
>>
>> The issue is either noise to/from the ground.
>> or
>> Transverse impulses getting clamped.  Could be something about
>> the new timing stuff that I don’t understand.
>> Forrest is probably better versed in thinking about this than I
>> am.
>>
>> Perhaps the server got launched by Elon Musk and the time delay
>> is just accumulating.
>>
>> *From:* Sam Lambie
>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 6:10 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with
>> 

Re: [AFMUG] SSH or Telnet script to check when a radio/sm is up?

[Cameron Crum]

That is true, but most use a script like this or similar in a MT router (PC
BMU) to accomplish it. So even if you have one of those systems, you still
need a way to redirect people in the router. At least with this, it will be
one less step to configure when he makes the change ;)


On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 12:21 AM, Steve Jones 
wrote:

> not to be that guy, but powercode, sonar, etc... they do this for you and
> redirect them to say "hey, bum, pay"
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 11:16 AM, Cameron Crum 
> wrote:
>
>> If you didn't want the redirect, you could just write a quick firewall to
>> drop all traffic from the suspended list as well, but redirecting to a
>> portal is preferable in my view.
>>
>> Cameron
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 11:09 AM, Sam Lambie 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> thank you Cameron. I appreciate it!
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:04 AM, Cameron Crum 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Here is a MT script to set up the web proxy redirect. Obviously you
 will need to change the urls in the last section under /ip proxy address.
 This script takes anything in the 'suspended' address list and redirects
 port 80 traffic to whatever you put in place of myportal.com. You also
 need to match the ip range at the bottom to whatever ip range you are
 handing out to your customers. You can add as many of that last rule as you
 need to cover all your ranges. As for the ssh script, it should be easy
 enough to write a simple script to ssh in and launch one of these:

  /ip firewall address-list add address=x.x.x.x list=suspended

 and to remove

 /ip firewall address-list remove [find address=x.x.x.x]

 The web proxy set up script is this (only run this one time, then move
 all the rules to the top of their respective firewall sections):


 add action=accept chain=input comment=\
 "Allow Proxy - redirect suspended users - this and then next five
 rules should be at the top of the filter list" disabled=no dst-port=16099 \
 protocol=tcp
 add action=jump chain=forward disabled=no jump-target=Suspended \
 src-address-list=suspended
 add action=accept chain=Suspended disabled=no dst-port=443 protocol=tcp
 add action=accept chain=Suspended disabled=no  \
 dst-port=53 protocol=udp
 add action=log chain=Suspended disabled=no
 dst-address-list=!PaymentGateway limit=5/1m,10 log-prefix=""
 add action=reject chain=Suspended disabled=no reject-with=\
 icmp-admin-prohibited

 /ip firewall nat
 add action=redirect chain=dstnat comment="Redirect Nat Rule for suspend
 users - put this rule at the top of the list " disabled=no dst-port=80 \
 protocol=tcp src-address-list=suspended to-ports=16099

 /ip proxy
 set always-from-cache=no cache-administrator=webmaster cache-hit-dscp=4
 cache-on-disk=no enabled=\
 yes max-cache-size=none max-client-connections=600
 max-fresh-time=3d max-server-connections=\
 600 parent-proxy=0.0.0.0 parent-proxy-port=0 port=16099
 serialize-connections=no src-address=\
 0.0.0.0
 /ip proxy access
 add action=allow disabled=no dst-host=mywebsite.com
 add action=allow disabled=no dst-host=www.mywebsite.com
 add action=deny disabled=no redirect-to=myportal.com src-address=\
 x.x.x.x/24






 On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:53 AM, Sam Lambie 
 wrote:

> We are in the the process of going to MT. But now, plain ole Linksys
> e2500's.
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:51 AM, Cameron Crum 
> wrote:
>
>> Are you using MT routers? I can show you a script to ssh to the
>> router and move him to an address list that either redirects him through 
>> a
>> web proxy or just drops all traffic.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Sam Lambie 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone used a script to check say every 5 minutes when an SM is
>>> up and make changes to it? If so, got an example?
>>>
>>> Ideally, I want to turn off the ethernet interface of the radio as
>>> the customer is a bum, but he keeps weird hours an I don't want to be 
>>> glued
>>> to my seat checking when he is up.
>>> I know that I could just block is WAN IP, but this is something I am
>>> interested in and have never done.
>>> Thanks
>>> Sam
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>


>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam 

Re: [AFMUG] Linksys

[Harold Bledsoe]

Not to nitpick but Foxconn is actually a Taiwanese company.

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 1:13 AM Lewis Bergman 
wrote:

> I am not a big Warren Buffet fan be he had a pretty nice explanation about
> what happens when a nation sells off its assets to another country.
>
> Just more of a trend of Chinese "companies", as if there were such a
> thing, buying up all over the world.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 12:09 AM Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> Granted, that's setting a pretty low bar though.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 11:00 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> Back in the day it was much better than Belkin.
>>>
>>> *From:* Jason McKemie
>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 9:57 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Linksys
>>>
>>>
>> I never really thought of Linksys as being a good thing.
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 26, 2018,  wrote:
>>>
>> Cisco bought linksys. Screwed up a good thing. Belden bought linksys all
 hell broke loose, making some of the worse products out there. I guess it
 could only get better.

 Sent from my iPhone

 > On Mar 26, 2018, at 8:46 PM, Josh Reynolds 
 wrote:
 >
 > Cisco sold off Linksys to Belkin a few years back. Dunno bout wemo.
 >
 >> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:42 PM, Chuck McCown 
 wrote:
 >> “Foxconn buys Belkin, Linksys, and Wemo”
 >>
 >> I thought Cisco bought Linksys years ago?

>>>

Re: [AFMUG] BGP Viewing Glass

[Mike Hammett]

RIPE's version is better. I don't believe it requires Java. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Steve Jones"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 11:12:15 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BGP Viewing Glass 


Isnt that just interwebs version? 
Needed java last i looked. 


Learning to use looking glasses has turned out to be more complex than using 
bgp. 


I had found one once that did cool historical maps and linked asn really 
nice... of course everytime you find that one perfect tool, you can never find 
it again 


On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 10:04 PM Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




Using BGPlay? 

RIPE's BGPlay works. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 






From: "Steve Jones" < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 8:40:31 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BGP Viewing Glass 


ive found this to be very true, many, many 
routeviews is all java problems for me, i want it to work sooo bad 


On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 5:59 PM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




You won't need one, but many. 

Route-views is another good collection. 

Google for {Carrier name here} looking glass. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 






From: "Matt Hoppes" < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > 
To: af@afmug.com , "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > 
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 5:57:53 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BGP Viewing Glass 



I was kind of hoping for a suggestion on one that works 

"Internal Server Error 

The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was 
unable to complete your request. 

Please contact the server administrator, xost...@xo.com and inform them 
of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that 
may have caused the error. 

More information about this error may be available in the server error log." 



On 3/26/18 6:55 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: 
> http://www.bgp4.as/looking-glasses 
> 
> 
> 
> - 
> Mike Hammett 
> Intelligent Computing Solutions < http://www.ics-il.com/ > 
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> https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb >< 
> https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions >< 
> https://twitter.com/ICSIL > 
> Midwest Internet Exchange < http://www.midwest-ix.com/ > 
> < https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix >< 
> https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange >< 
> https://twitter.com/mdwestix > 
> The Brothers WISP < http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/ > 
> < https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp > 
> 
> 
> < https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg > 
>  
> *From: *"Matt Hoppes" < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > 
> *To: * af@afmug.com 
> *Sent: *Monday, March 26, 2018 5:54:25 PM 
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] BGP Viewing Glass 
> 
> What is a good website/service to use to view BGP AS 
> routes/sessions/advertisements to observe why inbound traffic to your IP 
> addresses might be taking one route over another? 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

[Jeff Broadwick - Lists]

I don’t know yet Keefe.  I just know that’s what they are doing.

Jeff Broadwick
CTIconnect
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@cticonnect.com

> On Mar 26, 2018, at 10:10 PM, Keefe John  wrote:
> 
> How does that work exactly?
> 
>> On March 25, 2018 3:32:41 PM CDT, Jeff Broadwick - Lists  
>> wrote:
>> They are going to use the 3GHz 450m with an additional device at the tower.  
>> The CPE will have to be different though.
>> 
>> Jeff Broadwick
>> CTIconnect
>> 312-205-2519 Office
>> 574-220-7826 Cell
>> jbroadw...@cticonnect.com
>> 
>>>  On Mar 25, 2018, at 8:04 AM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:
>>>  
>>>  I cant understand why Cambium opens up another additional platform. Why 
>>> not develop 450 line further implementing some physical layer goodies of 
>>> LTE. I've seen this step with Wimax/PMP320 and all know where this ended up.
>>>  
>>>  Once they implemented LTE stuff it is outdated as 5G is moving in. 
>>>  
>>>  
  -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
  Von: Af  Im Auftrag von Matt Hoppes
  Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. März 2018 20:37
  An: af@afmug.com
  Betreff: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE
  
  What’s known about the Cambium LTE product so far?
>>>  
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [AFMUG] Linksys

[Adam Moffett]

Foxconn might have been making them all anyway.


-- Original Message --
From: "Lewis Bergman" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 3/27/2018 2:12:48 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Linksys

I am not a big Warren Buffet fan be he had a pretty nice explanation 
about what happens when a nation sells off its assets to another 
country.


Just more of a trend of Chinese "companies", as if there were such a 
thing, buying up all over the world.


On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 12:09 AM Jason McKemie 
 wrote:

Granted, that's setting a pretty low bar though.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 11:00 PM, Chuck McCown  
wrote:

Back in the day it was much better than Belkin.

From:Jason McKemie
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 9:57 PM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Linksys

I never really thought of Linksys as being a good thing.

On Monday, March 26, 2018,  wrote:
Cisco bought linksys. Screwed up a good thing. Belden bought linksys 
all hell broke loose, making some of the worse products out there. I 
guess it could only get better.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 26, 2018, at 8:46 PM, Josh Reynolds  
wrote:

>
> Cisco sold off Linksys to Belkin a few years back. Dunno bout 
wemo.

>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:42 PM, Chuck McCown  
wrote:

>> “Foxconn buys Belkin, Linksys, and Wemo”
>>
>> I thought Cisco bought Linksys years ago?

Re: [AFMUG] Linksys

[Bill Prince]

Let's see.

Cisco bought Linksys.

Then Belkin bought Linksys.

Not sure where Wemo fits in there.

but Foxconn?!?


bp


On 3/26/2018 8:42 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
“*Foxconn buys Belkin, Linksys, and Wemo* 
”

I thought Cisco bought Linksys years ago?

Re: [AFMUG] Linksys

[Lewis Bergman]

I am not a big Warren Buffet fan be he had a pretty nice explanation about
what happens when a nation sells off its assets to another country.

Just more of a trend of Chinese "companies", as if there were such a thing,
buying up all over the world.

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 12:09 AM Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> Granted, that's setting a pretty low bar though.
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 11:00 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> Back in the day it was much better than Belkin.
>>
>> *From:* Jason McKemie
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 9:57 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Linksys
>>
>>
> I never really thought of Linksys as being a good thing.
>>
>> On Monday, March 26, 2018,  wrote:
>>
> Cisco bought linksys. Screwed up a good thing. Belden bought linksys all
>>> hell broke loose, making some of the worse products out there. I guess it
>>> could only get better.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> > On Mar 26, 2018, at 8:46 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Cisco sold off Linksys to Belkin a few years back. Dunno bout wemo.
>>> >
>>> >> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:42 PM, Chuck McCown 
>>> wrote:
>>> >> “Foxconn buys Belkin, Linksys, and Wemo”
>>> >>
>>> >> I thought Cisco bought Linksys years ago?
>>>
>>