[AFMUG] Limited run of AW3464 900mhz dual-slant omnis actually available

[Colin Stanners]

For those who can fit some in their network/business plan, a limited run of
Alpha AW3464 900mhz dual-slant omnis is now actually available. Contact
Carey at Crossover Distribution.

[AFMUG] test

[Colin Stanners]

test

Re: [AFMUG] this list

[Colin Stanners]

Chuck, you can use hosts file entries on your PC so it will go to a
different IP address even if the domain hasn't transferred.

On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 12:01 PM,  wrote:

> Not sure.  Since the domain has not transferred yet I cannot even get into
> the back end of the new list server.  Not sure how many knobs it has.
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Friday, June 8, 2018 10:44 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] this list
>
> if there is a mechanism to sign up manually, it might be best to share in
> the event it doesnt migrate well so the info is already out there
>
> out of curiousity, is the new list going to be publicly searchable like
> the aws list?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 10:10 AM  wrote:
>
>> I should be able to automatically sign everyone up.  I have the list.  I
>> believe there is a bulk import.
>> It may send you a note asking you to verify.  I would hope it will.
>>
>> *From:* Carl Peterson
>> *Sent:* Friday, June 8, 2018 9:07 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] this list
>>
>> So before it dies, is there a process for us to sign up for the new
>> list?
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 10:55 AM,  wrote:
>>
>>> It is gonna die any day now.  I gave GoDaddy the magic Tucows key to
>>> steal it away from them.
>>>
>>> I have mailman hired to host.
>>>
>>> I keep checking on the status of the domain transfer and it just says
>>> “in process” or something like that.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Carl Peterson
>>
>> *PORT NETWORKS*
>>
>> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553
>> 
>>
>> Baltimore, MD 21202
>> 
>>
>> (410) 637-3707
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

[Colin Stanners]

In our company we have 900FSK, 2.4FSK, 2.4 450, 3.65 WiMAX, 3.65 450, 5ghz
430 and 5ghz 450 SMs... really trying to minimize the number of radio
models but there isn't much that you can do due to history, existing
customer base, cost of upgrades and interference/trees in different areas.
At least everything that isn't 900mhz / WiMAX works on the same reflector
dishes, that is a lifesaver.

We absolutely can't start adding ePMP radios in the mix, as in addition to
van space / stocking requirements it has a different GUI / SNMP / standards
which would require re-training everyone (there's a lot of "cabling" guys
who aren't whizzes with that) and ePMP doesn't seem to work too well on
dishes due to the multi-element panel antennas.

On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 9:47 PM, George Skorup 
wrote:

> Ok, I guess I have to be the one to say this. Why would we want a
> 450-based micro-POP product when we have ePMP? Just askin'.
>
> On 6/7/2018 10:29 AM, Matt Mangriotis wrote:
>
> I would really like to get your opinions on this topic� would a 450
> device like this help you in your network?
>
> �
>
> Now�s you chance to comment and help direct us!
>
> �
>
> Please fill out the short survey and add any other info you�d like.�
> It�s only 16 questions.
>
> �
>
> Matt
>
> �
>
> *From:* Af   *On Behalf Of *Ray
> Savich
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 7, 2018 10:08 AM
> *To:* 'af@afmug.com'  
> *Subject* [AFMUG] Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey
>
> �
>
> Add your input to the Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey.
>
> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/CambiumMicroPOP
> 
>
> �
>
> �
>
> Join the Conversation
>
> Cambium Networks Community Forum
> 
>
> �
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] RV park network design

[Colin Stanners]

ONT+NID takes space, also where do you get power for the ONT? Using 120V on
the same pole is an option but I'd prefer not rely directly on (sometimes
questionable) 120V power in such places, or putting a PoE-powered ONT.

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 3:29 PM, Cameron Crum  wrote:

> Why run ethernet? This seems ideal for fiber. Put a small box for the ONT
> on the same pole as the electrical hookup with about 20 ft of ethernet
> cable so they can drag it through a window and call it a day. Rent them a
> cheap router if they want wifi or mount a small loco ac or something
> running as a low powered AP and alternate frequencies every 3 or 4 spaces.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 2:57 PM, Colin Stanners 
> wrote:
>
>> Be careful of selling service over Wi-FI... customers buy "signal
>> boosters" that run their own DHCP server, or they see a very strong signal
>> to their booster and complain that their service sucks (don't understand
>> that the signal from the booster to your network is low). And there's
>> interference from mobile hotspots etc
>>
>> I would do like Adam says, run ethernet lines everywhere with
>> outdoor-grade ethernet connection boxes (make sure to have a surge
>> protector on each line as it returns to your switch). You can try offering
>> some service over wifi but tell customers that if they want reliable speeds
>> they need to hardwire.
>>
>> On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 1:07 PM, castarritt  wrote:
>>
>>> We were approached by a current subscriber who is building an RV park
>>> with around ~100 pads, and he wants us to offer service to his tenants.
>>> This isn't the typical situation where we would sell service to the RV
>>> park, and they handle distributing it to their customers.  He wants to
>>> avoid providing wi-fi himself, and will instead let us charge every client
>>> that wants service separately.  Also, this isn't a campground; his shortest
>>> lease term will be monthly.
>>>
>>> While the park is under construction, he is willing to let us lay
>>> conduit, so we could provide wired service to each pad if we wanted to.
>>> Alternatively, we could just setup a bunch of wi-fi APs.  One potential
>>> complication is that we have a fairly busy cluster of 5g PMP450s a couple
>>> hundred yards from this RV park, so while wired service could be more
>>> reliable for the park tenants, the potential for 100 customer wi-fi routers
>>> we can't control operating within sight of our PMP450 POP sounds like the
>>> stuff of nightmares.
>>>
>>> We are leaning more towards a wi-fi option due to better control over
>>> spectrum, as well as avoiding maintenance of 100 outdoor ethernet ports
>>> that the customers would be plugging into, but we are open to suggestions.
>>>
>>> Also, assuming wi-fi is the correct answer, does anyone have any
>>> equipment recommendations?  The park is about 400' by 900'.  I was looking
>>> at either doing a whole bunch of low end APs, or maybe ~8 sectors.  We
>>> haven't used any of the Cambium wi-fi gear yet, but the cnPilot E501S looks
>>> interesting.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Chris Starritt
>>> Western Broadband
>>> supp...@ecpi.com
>>> 512-257-1077
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] RV park network design

[Colin Stanners]

Be careful of selling service over Wi-FI... customers buy "signal boosters"
that run their own DHCP server, or they see a very strong signal to their
booster and complain that their service sucks (don't understand that the
signal from the booster to your network is low). And there's interference
from mobile hotspots etc

I would do like Adam says, run ethernet lines everywhere with outdoor-grade
ethernet connection boxes (make sure to have a surge protector on each line
as it returns to your switch). You can try offering some service over wifi
but tell customers that if they want reliable speeds they need to hardwire.

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 1:07 PM, castarritt  wrote:

> We were approached by a current subscriber who is building an RV park with
> around ~100 pads, and he wants us to offer service to his tenants.  This
> isn't the typical situation where we would sell service to the RV park, and
> they handle distributing it to their customers.  He wants to avoid
> providing wi-fi himself, and will instead let us charge every client that
> wants service separately.  Also, this isn't a campground; his shortest
> lease term will be monthly.
>
> While the park is under construction, he is willing to let us lay conduit,
> so we could provide wired service to each pad if we wanted to.
> Alternatively, we could just setup a bunch of wi-fi APs.  One potential
> complication is that we have a fairly busy cluster of 5g PMP450s a couple
> hundred yards from this RV park, so while wired service could be more
> reliable for the park tenants, the potential for 100 customer wi-fi routers
> we can't control operating within sight of our PMP450 POP sounds like the
> stuff of nightmares.
>
> We are leaning more towards a wi-fi option due to better control over
> spectrum, as well as avoiding maintenance of 100 outdoor ethernet ports
> that the customers would be plugging into, but we are open to suggestions.
>
> Also, assuming wi-fi is the correct answer, does anyone have any equipment
> recommendations?  The park is about 400' by 900'.  I was looking at either
> doing a whole bunch of low end APs, or maybe ~8 sectors.  We haven't used
> any of the Cambium wi-fi gear yet, but the cnPilot E501S looks interesting.
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Chris Starritt
> Western Broadband
> supp...@ecpi.com
> 512-257-1077
>

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for PMP 320 SM's

[Colin Stanners]

We had some before, I will check if we still have some to sell.

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 2:51 PM, Eric Muehleisen  wrote:

> Major storms rolled through our territory and took out a bunch of our PMP
> 320 SM's. Our inventory is getting a little light. Please let me know if
> you can part with any.
>

Re: [AFMUG] N-connector Patch

[Colin Stanners]

Kp performance
On May 25, 2018 4:50 PM, "Matt"  wrote:

> What is everyone using for a source of N-connector patch cables?  18
> inch to 24 inch range for connecting say a Cambium PTP450 to dish etc.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Any Aviat Eclipse experts near Midland, Texas area?

[Colin Stanners]

How high is high? Could it be some type of QoS setting? One possible option
would be to note settings/licenses and then do a reset to defaults of the
radios.

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 2:40 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Email me off liststrange issue..no dropped packets, no BER alarms, rsl
> difference from install readings but latency is high even though stats says
> 176.5 from possible 177mbps possible..
>
> Jaime Solorza
>

Re: [AFMUG] Revisiting Backup LTE service - devices

[Colin Stanners]

I don't think it's worth it.

Small-package customers won't pay enough for a cellular backup (considering
the costs if some of them do 5-20GB of Netflix over the weekend). For
larger package customers it's usually cheaper for you to install a
redundant link to a second tower or even pay a competitor for backup
service instead of going cellular.





On Mon, May 14, 2018, 4:29 PM Paul McCall  wrote:

> Looking for a 4g LTE solution that won’t kill me if several customers on a
> tower (that have the devices) start using it over a weekend while the tower
> is down.
>
>
>
> These 2 look to be suitable for tower mgmt., but not necessarily a
> customer option (redundancy) at scale
>
>
>
> *From:* Af  *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout
> *Sent:* Monday, May 14, 2018 5:10 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Revisiting Backup LTE service - devices
>
>
>
> twilio or hologram.io might fit the bill, mikrotik w/ lte dongle or a
> netgear dual wan LTE router is the way to go for seemless failover
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 2:02 PM, Paul McCall  wrote:
>
> We want to start offering our rural customers an LTE option as an on
> demand backup service.
>
>
>
> I know Ting is commonly used, although it looks like $ 10 / GB is their
> cost.  Seems a little high.
>
>
>
> Verizon has some interesting plans once you talk to the right people, and
> their JetPack device is FREE through the end of the month.
>
>
>
> What are you guys using?  Can you share details please?
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
> 
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
> 
>
> 772
> -564-6800
>
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> www.floridabroadband.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] DWDM SFPs in a CWDM system

[Colin Stanners]

Unless the DWDM SFPs can be set to wavelengths quite outside their normal
range, you could only use 2-3 of them in a CWDM system I believe?

On Mon, May 14, 2018, 5:10 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Why could you not use DWDM SFPs into a CWDM mux if you spaced them out?
> They are about $150 cheaper.
>

Re: [AFMUG] 24Ghz distance

[Colin Stanners]

The ITU charts give a good bit of information - depending on what your
uptime rrquiments are, 24ghz is likely 2-3 miles.
On May 13, 2018 8:20 PM, "Andreas Wiatowski"  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>
>
> It’s been a while since I’ve posted.  Wondering who has used the Mimosa
> 24Ghz product in a heavy rain zone.  What is your max distance? I really
> wish Cambium had a 24Ghz option!
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
>
> Silo Wireless Inc.
>
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>
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>
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>
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Re: [AFMUG] Dual Pol Feed Horn

[Colin Stanners]

https://www.winncom.com/en/search?q=laird%20feed  if you have an account
the prices are quite reasonable I think.

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 6:13 PM, Brian Sullivan 
wrote:

> I'm looking for a replacement of this type of 5GHz feed horn.  I had some
> water ingress and the inside looks corroded.
> Since this is the only part that is bad, i'd like to buy just this piece.
> Need 2 or 3 if possible.
> I believe this is from a Laird/PacWireless brand dish.  Google has failed
> me once again, I can't find any in-stock or that don't cost more than a new
> dish.
>

Re: [AFMUG] BGP whats this?

[Colin Stanners]

I would be concerned, likely they're having an issue with their BGP server
or the network connection to you.

On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 12:02 PM, Steve Jones 
wrote:

> These are new messages, the blacked out IP is our peer on this router. Is
> this something I need to be concerned about? red messages make me nervous
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Small Portable trencher

[Colin Stanners]

*Lay conduit for cable

We've had enough good-quality direct bury ethernet cable damaged (by
animals or ice etc) that now we tell customers that if it is not in a pipe,
expect it to get damaged and stop working.
On Apr 11, 2018 12:01 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:

> A shovel? Push the shovel down, flip the grass on it's top. Continue for
> length of run. Lay cable. Flip grass back over. Push down with foot.
>
> You can't even tell the grass was disturbed when done
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 11:59 AM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> For these residential deals, we occasionally lose out on new customers
>> because they dont want to trench cable themselves.
>> For this purpose it really only need 4 to 8 inches, just to stay under
>> the sod.
>> Is there a device that attaches to a drill or sawzall? Maybe a chainsaw
>> modified bar or a bucksaw trenching blade?
>> Not looking to get into a whole trencher, just something that ideally
>> would fit in the truck on a shelf
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AirFiber 11FX fun

[Colin Stanners]

Yes they are passive.

At really low transmit power I'd imagine that the radios would work fine
"next to each other" without duplexers or antennas attached. At high tx
power you may fry the transmitters, or even receivers due to enough leakage
between the unconnected TX RPSMA and RX RPSMA.
On Apr 12, 2018 10:19 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> Hey Kool Kats ... kopacetic...yeah..I will be installing 4 11GHz AirFiber
> links next week with three high band and one low band as per FCC licenses.
> Duplexors will be shipped to us on site next week , so since I have never
> configured these before, can I set them up without duplexors?  From
> pictures, looks like all frequencies are assigned in radio and the
> duplexors are just passive.  Thoughts?
>
> Jaime Solorza
>

Re: [AFMUG] 320 SM

[Colin Stanners]

Our company has a few PMP320 (WiMAX) SMs, and lots of the 802.3AF power
supplies that they use, if anyone wants to buy.

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 9:52 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies  wrote:

> Forrest posted he needed a 320AP for testing.  Apparently somebody is
> still using these things.  I have about a dozen SM's if anyone is
> interested.  Most were deployed, but think I have one or two still NIB.
> Hit me off list if you need these.
>
>
>
>
>
> *-- Best regards, Mark*mailto:m...@mailmt.com
> 
>
>
> *Myakka Technologies, Inc. *www.MyakkaTech.com
>
>
>
>
>
> *-- Monday, April 9, 2018, 1:44:10 AM, you wrote: *
>
> I've never been able to procure a 320 access point for my lab, always been
> able to borrow one, and that's not a possiblity anymore.
>
> Is there by chance someone on the list with a 320 access point on the
> shelf that they would like to get rid of for next to nothing?   I need it
> to power on and be able to receive sync, anything else I don't really care
> about unless it affects poweron and sync testing.   I.E. I don't really
> care if the rf side works reliably, but I would care if the sync is blown
> out, or the radio wasn't stable (crashes, reboots, etc) since those would
> impact my ability to verify proper operation of the radio.
>
> --
> *Forrest Christian *
> *CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc. *Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577
> Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
> 
> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT T1 transport

[Colin Stanners]

At their cell towers? Or circuits being resold?

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 1:54 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> AT!
>
> *From:* Colin Stanners
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 10, 2018 12:53 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT T1 transport
>
> What kind of customer is still using T1s?
>
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 12:58 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> HDSL 231 L8 150--08 central office units
>> HDU 409 Doublers
>> HRU 402 remote at the customer.
>>
>>
>> *From:* Faisal Imtiaz
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 10, 2018 11:56 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT T1 transport
>>
>> Which model of pairgain cards are you looking for ?
>>
>> (ebay or secondary markets ? )
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> http://www.snappytelecom.net
>>
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>>
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>
>> --
>>
>> *From: *"Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, April 10, 2018 1:19:23 PM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] OT T1 transport
>>
>> I have some customers still on T1 over copper loops.  (This is in
>> Louisiana, not Utah).We cannot buy the pairgain cards any more to
>> supply them and we are out of cards.
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT T1 transport

[Colin Stanners]

What kind of customer is still using T1s?

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 12:58 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> HDSL 231 L8 150--08 central office units
> HDU 409 Doublers
> HRU 402 remote at the customer.
>
>
> *From:* Faisal Imtiaz
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 10, 2018 11:56 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT T1 transport
>
> Which model of pairgain cards are you looking for ?
>
> (ebay or secondary markets ? )
>
> Regards.
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> http://www.snappytelecom.net
>
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Chuck McCown" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, April 10, 2018 1:19:23 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] OT T1 transport
>
> I have some customers still on T1 over copper loops.  (This is in
> Louisiana, not Utah).We cannot buy the pairgain cards any more to
> supply them and we are out of cards.
> Any suggestions?
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] CPU - when to upgrade

[Colin Stanners]

Are you using the FastTrack firewall rule? That can reduce CPU usage quite
a bit depending on what the routers are doing.

Is that CPU % at peak time? If so I would look at upgrading some.

On Thu, Apr 5, 2018, 7:24 PM Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) 
wrote:

> Hi Guys
>
>
>
> When you have a router and cpu is hitting about 60 – 70% with traffic load
> would that impact speeds?
>
> I’ve got a few links that don’t seem to go as hard as they should, but I
> can’t find the reason.
>
> The routers are MikroTik and the radios (also highish cpu) are ubnt with
> plenty of airtime free)
>
> Hmmm, That’s another question, at what Airtime % will you start to see
> impacted performance?
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Rhys
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Stolen credit card info

[Colin Stanners]

FYI a certain accountant said that there is a card for US purchases that
has had some fraud at times in coincidence with purchases from #3 on your
list. I am not making any statement against them, just some coincidences.

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 2:24 PM, Brett A Mansfield <
li...@silverlakeinternet.com> wrote:

> This is just an FYI and should not reflect poorly on the companies
> mentioned. All or even none of them may have been the cause. I’m sending
> this out just so people pay extra attention to their accounts and so the
> companies listed can verify their security.
>
> I have an account/card I use ONLY for purchasing equipment. This card is
> only two months old and has just been used by someone in the Czech Republic.
>
> The ONLY places I’ve ever used this card at are the following websites:
>
> Streakwave.com
> Doubleradius.com
> Balticnetworks.com
> Flytechconputers.com
> EnduranceHardware.com
> Amazon.com
>
> All were used within the past two weeks. The fraudulent charges happened
> today. I encourage all to check their accounts and website security/virus
> protection.
>
>
> Thank you,
> Brett A Mansfield
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Indoor ONT fiber

[Colin Stanners]

We just run a bit of conduit from the NID to the hole leading inside. If
you try to run armoured/UV-shielded-type fiber indoors you'll find it
difficult to flex and probably get complaints about the looks.

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 4:10 PM, Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> Currently I just run a flat drop fiber to an enclosure on the side of the
> building, then cat5 inside.
>
> Those of you doing indoor ONTs, what are you using for fiber from the
> outdoor splice closure to the ONT?  It would need to be UV rated and
> probably armored since I would prefer to not have to run conduit from the
> splice closure through the exterior wall.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jason
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?

[Colin Stanners]

Note that some Mikrotik USB ports only run at USB2.0 speed (480mbit) while
many UPSes only run at USB1.0 speeds (12 / 1.5mbit). I saw this issue while
trying to connect a Back-UPS 350 to a RB951. IIRC inserting a USB2.0 hub
between them will fix it.

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 7:54 AM, Justin Marshall  wrote:

> Can you recommend a particular model of APC (preferably cheap) that works
> over USB to a Mikrotik 2011?
>
>
>
> I’ve tested with a couple older ones I have around here, and can’t get the
> 2011 to recognize the APC through /system ups.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Justin
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason Wilson
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 27, 2018 1:50 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cheap consumer level SNMP capable UPS?
>
>
>
> Most APC’s can be monitored over USP through a Mikrotik router (anyone
> with a USB port).  That is what we do for out smaller site, in-fact we
> usually add external batteries for longer runtime.
>
>
>
> Jason
>
> Jason Wilson
>
> Remotely Located
>
> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>
> 530-651-1736 <(530)%20651-1736> Office
>
> 530-748-9608 <(530)%20748-9608> Cell
>
> www.remotelylocated.com
>
>
>
> On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Justin Marshall  wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Does anyone know of any cheap consumer level UPS’s that can be monitored
> via SNMP over ethernet?
>
> Something non-rack mountable and that doesn’t require external batteries?
>
> Everything I find wants to be monitored through USB with proprietary
> programs like Powerchute, etc…
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Justin
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik vulnerabilities

[Colin Stanners]

Same as the external-drive-file-sharing feature in home routers... it makes
a cheap NAS. The only way you'd have that exposed to the outside world is
through huge inexperience or foolishness, but I'm sure that you've seen by
now that those users exist.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 8:42 PM, Steve Jones 
wrote:

> why in jesus name would you turn that on?
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 8:40 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> If an outsider can't hit the http service on your router then you should
>> be ok.  You'd also be ok if you're keeping up your ROS version on either
>> the "current" or "bugfix" track.
>>
>> The second vulnerability I mentioned is only relevant if you've turned on
>> the SMB service which is off by default.
>>
>> -Adam
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Steve Jones" 
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: 3/26/2018 9:28:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik vulnerabilities
>>
>> AFAIK (assuming my firewall mastery isnt as awful as i think it is) I
>> have a drop all input with an office ACL and allow connected winbox, but i
>> do use romon with passwords. that should essentially "protect" shouldnt it?
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 8:24 PM, Adam Moffett 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sure everyone here has a super duper uber secure network and never
>>> has to worry about something like this:
>>> http://seclist.us/chimayred-reverse-engineering-of-mikrotik-
>>> exploits-from-vault-7-cia-leaks.html
>>>
>>> That info is from January.  If you have a MIPS BE or x86 mikrotik on ROS
>>> 6.38.4 or lower and have the http service exposed to the world then you
>>> could be hit by this.  The remotely executable code could be anything, even
>>> a remote shell which the attacker can use for any kind of additional
>>> ongoing nonsense.  Their CPU usage will show up as "unclassified" in Tool
>>> -> Profile.  I plead the 5th on how I know that last part.
>>>
>>> Also on March 12 they announced a remote exploit in the SMB service.  I
>>> don't imagine most of us use the SMB service though.
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] War driving with 900mhz

[Colin Stanners]

I've created some Radio Mobile configuration that gives quite accurate maps
in near/non-LOS conditions for our area. Many online calculators suck for
NLOS coverage but I would assume that Linktechs' Towercoverage is good,
based on the experienced people behind it. If you tell me GPS location /
height and type of gear / heights of trees I can do a plot quickly and you
can check how your on-site measurements compare.

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 11:15 PM, Jon Lee  wrote:

> I just setup a new 900mhz and a 5.8ghz AP in a township under tall pines.
> I am going to go plot signal strength tomorrow but was wondering what the
> group does? My service area is in the mountains and I can't always see the
> AP (5.8) CLOS. Does anyone use hardware/software to plot RF maps?
>
> I am familiar with the thearetical solutions (online maps and services)
>
> Thanks!
> -Jon
> Off-Grid Networks
>

Re: [AFMUG] list dead?

[Colin Stanners]

Works for me. Sent this message 9:00 CST, will see how long it takes to get
to the list.

On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 8:02 AM, George Skorup 
wrote:

> Did the list dieded or is it just me?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Yuy

[Colin Stanners]

Jaime stop

On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 12:32 AM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

>
>
> Jaime Solorza
>

Re: [AFMUG] Down tilt for 450i

[Colin Stanners]

Are you setting up all of your 900mhz 450I to be dual-pol instead of
dual-slant? That simplifies procuring antennas but is not to Cambium
standard. It depends how flat the ground around you is, but at that
distance the downtilt will usually be zero.

On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:03 PM, Jay Weekley 
wrote:

> We're putting up a KP Performance KPPA-900DP-90S for use with the 900 MHz
> 450i APs. How much down tilt would you use to serve customers up to 7 miles
> away? It has zero electrical down tilt
>

Re: [AFMUG] testing

[Colin Stanners]

Got it

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 5:21 AM, Justin Marshall  wrote:

> testing
>

Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm Summer 2018

[Colin Stanners]

Who is "Geo Orwell", or is that the hip peoples' way to refer to the author?

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 1:58 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Registration is now open:
> http://www.afmug.com/
>
> The sponsor info is old, but maybe they will all offer to sponsor.
> Really, trying to get Ditchwitch, Vermeer, Preformed Line Products etc to
> sponsor as that is the kind of stuff we will be discussing.
>

Re: [AFMUG] It's on

[Colin Stanners]

AnimalFarm has always been a great conference: very fun, inexpensive, great
people and insight, and it helped me gain a massive amount of experience /
knowledge / connections in the WISP industry. You could see that Chuck and
his crew had the dedication and organization to make things happen.

But winter AnimalFarm was a good excuse to get out of my cold province
during the winters; that doesn't apply to June. Decisions...


On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 12:29 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> June 12 & 13 AnimalFarm
>
> I even have vendors tracking me down here at WISPAmerica wanting to
> sponsor.
>
> Going to start to put together the agenda.  Very short sessions like
> always.
> Need the crowd to evolve this thing.
>
> Day 1:
> Fiber theory, channels, band plan
> SFPs
> Passive mux
> CWDM DWDM
>
> FTTH network topology
> GPON
> AE
> Pros and cons
>
> OSP Network Components
> Costs and Features
> Cable
> Conduit
> Handholes
> Splice Cases
> Splitters
>
> Cabinets
> Cross boxes
> Electronics
> Powering and cooling
>
> Fiber
> Splicing
> Connectors
> Engineering considerations
> Costs
>
> NOC
> MT FTTH in a box solution
>
> Day 2:  Hands On
> HDD operations
> Vacuum Excavators
> Hole Hawg and other missiles
> Underground location
> Eating mass quantities of dead animals.
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF-5 optimal config

[Colin Stanners]

 With the lower gain of those antennas I think 9 miles is a bit far if
interference rears its head. For speed, since it seems he's getting the
required signal and little noise, check out this table:
https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airFiber/AF5-Distance-Throughput-Chart-Community-Maintained-47-dBm-EIRP/td-p/868782
.

>From that table, his results are much less than expected, please get
screenshots from him (removing GPS location / site name / IP / MAC address
if desired) and post them and we can analyze them.

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 11:14 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I haven't ever deployed a AF-5 or AF-5U but a friend who owns a wisp is
> trying to deploy one, we don't have very much noise and he's only 3db off
> of 'optimal' as calculated by the AF-5's GPS and the thing will only pass
> about 20mbps of traffic @ 9 miles
>
> What is the aprox expected throughput at 9miles assuming little/no noise?
>
> Any ideas on what to play with to get it working better, channel and
> channel size aren't helping and I'm pretty sure the alignment is decent, do
> I have a bad radio?
>
> Or maybe 9 miles is too far?
>
> Thank you,
>
> TJ Trout
>

Re: [AFMUG] Extended temperature range PC's

[Colin Stanners]

Why do you need a PC specifically?
http://copperhilltech.com/blog/raspberry-pi-proven-to-withstand-extended-temperature-range/

Lanner does industrial PCs. http://www.lannerinc.com/other/products-page


On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 8:05 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> Are there any suggestions for a PC that can live in a box on the side of
> the road?  It could be 1U, or DIN, or other small form factorI'm not
> picky.
> The box would be heated and ventilated, but not air conditioned.  The
> workload for the PC would be light, I just need it to be small, reliable,
> and not require air conditioning.
>
> I can Google this of course, and have done so.  I'm just wondering if
> someone has a favorite thing that they know and love already.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT VPN over PPPOE

[Colin Stanners]

Very likely MTU/fragmentation issue. If you're using PPPoE you have a
smaller MTU (1480 / 1492 bytes), some badly configured VPN endpoints may
not accept fragmentation that is necessary on packets below 1500.

On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 6:06 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Had a customer that works from home.  Could not make his VPN work.
> We thought perhaps it was a port issue.  Opened the ports on the Smart
> RG.  No good.
>
> He spend $150 over the weekend on a geek squad type of service and they
> pointed their finger at us.
>
> So, just because we haven’t tried it, we switched him to DHCP and it
> started working.
> We are in the process of converting everyone to DHCP.
>
> He wants a credit in the amount of the money he paid the geek squad.
>
> Wonder if it was truly our fault.  Still don’t know why it started working
> or what the problem was.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Radwin Announces mesh 60ghz at MWC

[Colin Stanners]

Their picture suggesting mult-mile shots on 60Ghz is... extremely
optimistic to say it delicately.

On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 10:23 AM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:

> Would be perfect when ignitenet makes their stuff compatible. Both are
> based on WiGIG so should be possible.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Gino A. Villarini
> *Gesendet:* Montag, 26. Februar 2018 17:08
> *An:* af@afmug.com
> *Betreff:* [AFMUG] Radwin Announces mesh 60ghz at MWC
>
>
>
> Based on Facebook Terragraph Project
>
>
>
> https://www.radwin.com/press-room/60ghz-mesh-terragraph
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
>
> President
>
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. FCC ID Application for New Equipment

[Colin Stanners]

Airfiber5 LTU. Looks like a CPE?

On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 7:30 AM, FCC ID Alert  wrote:

> A new FCC ID application has been submitted by Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. for
> New Equipment.
> See FCC ID SWX-AF5LTU
> 
> Equipment Authorized: Digital Transmission Radio
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Raspberry PI

[Colin Stanners]

I found these devices that do what you want, but they look fancy and
expensive, I'm guessing that you wish to get around the latter.

https://www.engageinc.com/products/tdm/prima-stratum-gps-stratum-1-clock.html
   https://www.endruntechnologies.com/gps-frequency-standard.htm

On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 5:29 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> The problem is there is a crap ton of stuff out there that needs network
> sync.  And it all has a T1 as an input.
> But most T1 trunking circuits are getting replaced with SIP.
>
> So, I am building a cheap and dirty T1 signal generator that is GPS and
> rhubidium referenced.  The hard part is easy.  The easy part should be easy
> but all the T1 framing chips that used to exist no longer exist.
>
> The ones that are out there have massive CPU interfaces and tons of
> registers that need to get set to get them fired up and running
>
> Where is Exar when you need them
>
> *From:* Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 22, 2018 4:21 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Raspberry PI
>
> Tell whoever's got the T1 that 1967 is way behind us and get a new
> interface.
> Problem eliminated LOL
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 2/22/2018 6:16:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Raspberry PI
>
>
> I have to generate an alternate mark inversion signal on 1.544 MHz with
> every 193rd bit following a t1 framing sequence.
> Sure wish a 555 could do that.
>
> *From:* Dave
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 22, 2018 4:10 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Raspberry PI
>
> Find a 555 timer ... I used many in the olden day when radioshacks were
> king LOL!
>
>
> On 02/22/2018 05:05 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> I am thinking of using some shift registers instead of using the PI output
> directly as the timing signal.
>
> Use the PI to load them.
>
> I love me some hardware design anyhow
>
>
> *From:* Colin Stanners
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 22, 2018 3:59 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Raspberry PI
>
> Other than setting the process priority, you may need a custom kernel. See
> https://medium.com/@metebalci/latency-of-raspberry-pi-3-on-
> standard-and-real-time-linux-4-9-kernel-2d9c20704495
>
>
> On Feb 22, 2018 4:48 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> Anyone know how to get my program to run on bare metal?
>>
>> Or at the very least tell Linux that my program is the most important
>> thing in the world and service it above all other things.
>>
>> I am trying to create a timing signal with the Pi.  It is doing it but
>> the jitter is pretty bad.
>>
>> I have researched trying to use an interrupt but there is a pretty low
>> limit on how many times per second you can fire a hardware interrupt.
>> Too low for my application.
>>
>
> --
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Raspberry PI

[Colin Stanners]

Other than setting the process priority, you may need a custom kernel. See
https://medium.com/@metebalci/latency-of-raspberry-pi-3-on-standard-and-real-time-linux-4-9-kernel-2d9c20704495


On Feb 22, 2018 4:48 PM,  wrote:

> Anyone know how to get my program to run on bare metal?
>
> Or at the very least tell Linux that my program is the most important
> thing in the world and service it above all other things.
>
> I am trying to create a timing signal with the Pi.  It is doing it but the
> jitter is pretty bad.
>
> I have researched trying to use an interrupt but there is a pretty low
> limit on how many times per second you can fire a hardware interrupt.
> Too low for my application.
>

Re: [AFMUG] crap

[Colin Stanners]

If you just deleted the label and not the messages, I think you can
re-create it and then search all messages using "[afmug]" and applying that
label to all results.

On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 10:37 AM,  wrote:

> I am back!  Now to see if I can recover the old traffic.
> Not the end of the world as we have archives.
>
> *From:* ch...@directcom.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 22, 2018 9:31 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] crap
>
> OK, maybe it is fixed.
> It took my Animal Farm folder out of the message filter.  But it still had
> it skip inbox as part of the filter.
> This ought to tell me if it worked.
>
> *From:* ch...@directcom.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 22, 2018 9:27 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] crap
>
> It does if you tell it to delete the folder (via your imap client).
> I have fired up one of my other email accounts until I get this sorted
> out.
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 22, 2018 9:21 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] crap
>
> gmail never forgets
>
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 10:04 AM,  wrote:
>
>> thanks, getting direct but nothing from the list.
>> Somehow I must have told gmail that I don’t want list traffic...
>> Or the list got an unsubscribe from me.  I guess I will re subscribe and
>> see if that will fix it.
>>
>> *From:* Jay Fuller - Cyber Broadband Inc.
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 22, 2018 9:03 AM
>> *To:* Chuck McCown
>> *Subject:* Fw: [AFMUG] crap
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 22, 2018 9:58 AM
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] crap
>>
>> Did not get my own test email on the list.
>> If this comes through could someone let me know to my direct email
>> ch...@wbmfg.com
>>
>> Just clicked the wrong thing.  IMAP folder got deleted.  It is still
>> there in my Gmail acount it appears.  But empty.
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 license available

[Colin Stanners]

Do you ship to Canada?  :-)

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:26 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:

>
>
> As many of you have heard, we recently discovered we had a spare 3.65
> license.
>
> We have decided to put this up for auction for the next seven days. If you
> need a 3.65 license, go bid on this.
>
> Good luck!
>
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/NN-License-LICENSING-FOR-THE-3-
> 65-3-70-GHZ-SPECTRUM/222848486692
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times?

[Colin Stanners]

Chuck, I seriously can't tell if you're serious or not.

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 2:54 PM,  wrote:

> They outsourced all repair work to Trango.
>
> -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Tuesday, February 20,
> 2018 1:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times?
> How long does it usually take Cambium to repair something? I have an 820S
> that failed under warranty waiting at their repair facility since December
> 8th with no progress since then other than it was received. I've never had
> anything repaired by them before.
>
> ~Seth
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium repair times?

[Colin Stanners]

I suspect that the 820S would be fixed at Ceragon's repair facility, so it
may not be related to other original-Cambium product repairs (which usually
take about a week IIRC).

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 2:42 PM, Seth Mattinen  wrote:

> How long does it usually take Cambium to repair something? I have an 820S
> that failed under warranty waiting at their repair facility since December
> 8th with no progress since then other than it was received. I've never had
> anything repaired by them before.
>
> ~Seth
>

Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector

[Colin Stanners]

Speed and price look extremely impressive... but it's not rated to operate
in cold weather (only down to -30 Celsius) therefore not an option for us
in why-are-you-living-there central Canada.

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:

> Still everything on plain 802.11 or is tdma done?
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Mathew Howard
> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 20. Februar 2018 19:45
> *An:* af 
> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>
>
>
> Pricing isn't bad at all, the AP is only about $1k, which is actually
> cheaper than a lot of 5ghz systems when you consider that it covers 360
> degrees, and there aren't any other antennas involved. The clients are a
> bit pricey though... ranging from around $300-$600... realistically,
> probably around $500 for most customers.
>
> I have one sitting here ready to go up as soon as the weather is good
> enough that I can get myself to climb up a tower... one of our service
> techs lives close enough to the tower that I'm planning on putting it on to
> work at 60ghz, so that should be a good test.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:28 PM,  wrote:
>
> Nice.  How does the price compare to other PMP solutions?
>
>
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 11:25 AM
>
> *To:* af
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>
>
>
> It is dual frequency. It's got a built in 5ghz omni as well as the three
> 60ghz radio... it actually has a 2.4ghz radio in there to, although I can't
> imagine actually using that.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:43 AM,  wrote:
>
> Please forgive me for being ignorant about this product, but is it a dual
> freq with fail over to 5.8GHz during 60 GHz fades/outages or do you put up
> the 60 GHz and hope for the best?
>
>
>
> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 10:29 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>
>
>
> 2.5 gbps OTA per sector, 3 inside … 1.1-1.3 gbps real per sector
>
>
>
> *From: *Af  on behalf of Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" 
> *Date: *Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 1:13 PM
> *To: *"af@afmug.com" 
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] its here, Ignitenet 60ghz trisector
>
>
>
> What's the beamwidth on this?
>
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, Gino A. Villarini 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
>
> President
>
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
>
> President
>
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] FS Planet GS-5220-46S2C4X Managed network switch - Used, 1U 48 Port SFP 4 Port SFP+

[Colin Stanners]

You're not the only one who found that out the hard way... they also don't
like extreme voltage variations.



On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 5:35 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
wrote:

> I've got five (5) relatively new Planet 48 Port SFP 4 port SFP+ switches
> for $890.00 each if anyone wants them.
>
> They need to be in a good temperature-controlled environment though, temp
> swings make them angry.
>
> That's why I swapped them out and have them available.
>
> Just email me off list.
>

[AFMUG] Fwd: Cambium Networks Inc. FCC ID Application for New Equipment

[Colin Stanners]

Fancy new ePMP...

-- Forwarded message --
From: FCC ID Alert 
Date: Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:30 AM
Subject: Cambium Networks Inc. FCC ID Application for New Equipment
To: cstann...@gmail.com


A new FCC ID application has been submitted by Cambium Networks Inc. for
New Equipment.
See FCC ID Z8H89FT0017

Equipment Authorized: Force 300 Fixed Transceiver

[AFMUG] WX2100 / FluoroThane hydrophobic coating

[Colin Stanners]

" *WX2100* is superhydrophobic coating commonly used on marine and ground-based
microwave antenna, radomes and other telecommunications gear. "

http://www.wx2100.com/

I know it's a temporary substance, but has anyone ever tried this on 24Ghz+
links in the rain?

Re: [AFMUG] Is the list still alive?

[Colin Stanners]

It's 10PM in your area Jon, I'm sure you've worked hard, relax a bit!

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 9:19 PM, Jon Langeler 
wrote:

>
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Part number or source for Medusa Aux Port Gland

[Colin Stanners]

If they are the same size as the other glands, then previously on this
list, someone had mentioned that they were a variant of PG16 cable glands,
and Darren had posted the below:
--

I bought 10 of these the other day: http://www.newark.com/lapp-
kabel/52015810/cable-clamp-gland/dp/19M8609



They are shorter, and the rubber bushing inside has a bigger hole, so we’ll
need to work harder to seal it, but it is a heck of a lot cheaper than the
official Cambium gland.


On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 12:38 PM, Sam Lambie  wrote:

> Hey guys,
> Where can I get a gland for the AUX port on the Cambium Medusa without
> paying an arm and a leg?
> Thanks
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 <(575)%20758-7598> Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>

Re: [AFMUG] Plowing parallel to telephone

[Colin Stanners]

How often do you daylight/hydrovac their line? In our area, other utilities
recommend doing so every 30-50ft when you are going parallel to their
lines, in the assumption that their line won't have any extreme deviations
in that distance.

As Chuck said, using your own cable locator is the another option as long
as there are not too many other lines in the ground. Some utilities may
allow you to clamp your cable locate transmitter onto their pedastals/etc
to transmit into their lines; some won't officially "allow" it but their
techs will look the other way if you're friendly with them. But you can
always attach your transmitter to the locate/ground cable in the nearby NID
of a customer you/that other provider share without anyone complaining.

On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 1:21 PM, Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> Does anyone have any suggestions on things to look out for when doing
> this?  I've noticed the locating of telephone cables is a bit sketchy
> around here to say the least, so it makes me nervous running long distances
> parallel with them.  I'll try for the opposite site of the road when
> possible, but sometimes that will mean crossing several driveways or other
> obstacles.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -Jason
>
>
> 
>  Virus-free.
> www.avast.com
> 
> <#m_6887994111343786491_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>

[AFMUG] Tesswave antennas

[Colin Stanners]

Has anyone dealt with Tesswave antennas? Trying to contact them since they
seem to be the only company with 120deg dual-slant 900mhz sectors, but
haven't received any replies.

Thanks,
-C

Re: [AFMUG] OT: USB backup drive

[Colin Stanners]

High-quality flash is a bit more reliable than spinning disks, but either
way the chances of her internal storage and the external backup failing at
a similar time are extremely low.

On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 12:55 PM, Jay Weekley 
wrote:

> Mom needs a USB backup drive. I have a Western Digital but I don't want to
> risk my inheritance on a hard drive that may fail when it's needed.  What
> do the experts recommend?
>

[AFMUG] Exalt support - FYI

[Colin Stanners]

To anyone else who has had issues contacting Exalt Communications support (
supp...@exaltcom.com seems to have had issues for some time), I was using
an alternate e-mail address at a support subcontractor that has worked
well: exaltsupp...@starmicrowave.com .

If you need earlier radio firmware, I have an archive too.

(Also if anyone wants to buy a large number of their 5ghz  EX-5R-C GigE or
RC5000 outdoor connectorized radios let me know...)

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt firmware

[Colin Stanners]

Note: According to the ExtendAir G2 1.4.3 upgrade notes, if you have very
early firmware you can upgrade your link to 1.1.0 then jump straight to
1.4.2 (which needs to be programmed in twice for reasons that I don't fully
understand), then to 1.4.3. I can send you 1.1.0 firmware if you want.

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 3:38 PM, George Skorup 
wrote:

> Looking for ExtendAir G2 release 1.2.2. Anybody have it?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt firmware

[Colin Stanners]

I have many other releases but not that one.

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 3:38 PM, George Skorup 
wrote:

> Looking for ExtendAir G2 release 1.2.2. Anybody have it?
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 link that won't pass an RFC2544 test at 500 Mbps

[Colin Stanners]

What are the flow control settings? I remember seeing a graph that flow
control has a big effect on whether AirFibers can hit near the full speed.

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:

> Hey Ubiquiti people who might be watching the list,
>
> If you're watching the list, please contact me...  I have an AF24 link
> with "perfect" RF characteristics that won't pass a 500 Mbps full duplex
> RFC2544 test. It also fails MEF y.1731 tests at the same data rate.
>
> 1.70 km, -55 RSL symmetric on both sides, radios report 774 Mbps capacity
> full duplex.
>
> We have already replaced a radio on one end, the data cables, tried
> bypassing surge protectors, and replaced cables.
>
> This link performs normally with 0.00% packet loss and full duplex layer 3
> IP traffic. Between Adva metro Ethernet equipment we can't get a 500 Mbps
> test to run cleanly.
>

[AFMUG] Fwd: Cambium Networks Inc. FCC ID Application for New Equipment

[Colin Stanners]

PTP550


-- Forwarded message --
From: FCC ID Alert 
Date: Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 2:30 AM
Subject: Cambium Networks Inc. FCC ID Application for New Equipment
To: cstann...@gmail.com


A new FCC ID application has been submitted by Cambium Networks Inc. for
New Equipment.
See FCC ID Z8H89FT0038

Equipment Authorized: PTP550 Fixed Transceiver

Re: [AFMUG] Best Cat5 tester under $ 150

[Colin Stanners]

Yes, I haven't personally tested the accuracy but that's one of my
requirements for a technician tester.

On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 4:48 AM, Jay Weekley <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
wrote:

> Does it measure the cable distance and distance to a short?
>
> Colin Stanners wrote:
>
>> https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=105_id=10524_
>> id=1052401_id=15962=1=2 seems to be MP's new version of
>> their higher-end tester.
>>
>> The old version worked well, but make sure to get a PoE voltage detector
>> dongle and let the techs know that they must always use it - if the tester
>> comes back non-functional due to a short on the PoE pairs they may
>> personally need to pay for a new one.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 4:16 AM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net > pa...@pdmnet.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Looking to re-outfit my techs. I set $ 150 as a somewhat arbitrary
>> budget for each.
>>
>> Any favorites or ones to avoid?
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email_
>> source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient>
>> Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-sign
>> ature?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-
>> email_content=emailclient>
>>
>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Best Cat5 tester under $ 150

[Colin Stanners]

https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=105_id=10524_id=1052401_id=15962=1=2
seems to be MP's new version of their higher-end tester.

The old version worked well, but make sure to get a PoE voltage detector
dongle and let the techs know that they must always use it - if the tester
comes back non-functional due to a short on the PoE pairs they may
personally need to pay for a new one.

On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 4:16 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:

> Looking to re-outfit my techs. I set $ 150 as a somewhat arbitrary budget
> for each.
>
> Any favorites or ones to avoid?
>
> Paul
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed Links 2Gbps+?

[Colin Stanners]

For the 30mile shot you likely would need to do 6ghz to survive rain fade.
Look into Bridgewave Navigator.
On Jan 11, 2018 2:07 AM, "Cassidy B. Larson"  wrote:

> I have a need to get around a couple of ridges with 2Gbps+ using licensed
> links. Lets say fiber is out of the question.
> Two hops, 14 miles and 30 miles. Want to get as much bandwidth as possible.
>
> I’m thinking QTY2 11GHz 80MHz channels using XPIC.  Thoughts?  Radios
> that’d do that best?
> I heard SAF has a new Integra coming out that’ll do XPIC, but it’s a
> whiles out.  Other ideas (besides fiber)?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -c
>

Re: [AFMUG] Used Licensed Gear

[Colin Stanners]

If you don't mind me asking, what did you upgrade to?

On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:

> we have about 10 complete links of dragonwave horizon compact plus 18GHz
> if you're interested.
>
> -sean
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 8:13 AM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
>> Other than SWG, where are you guys seeing used licensed gear available?
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Inner City WISP In Detroit

[Colin Stanners]

Thanks for the offer, but we need the gear to run in 2.3 / 5.9Ghz amateur
radio bands easily (which is no problem on the 'unlocked' Ubnt/MT), and I
heard that even with the "eng" hack, Canopy doesn't do those well or at all.

On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 8:55 PM, Jay Weekley <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
wrote:

> Interested in some old Cambium/Canopy FSK stuff?
>
> Colin Stanners wrote:
>
>> Ah, too bad. Our amateur radio Wi-Fi group has been doing well, built out
>> a few sites with donated Ubnt/MT gear, we are looking for a bit more -
>> especially 5ghz radios - that can be gotten for just cost of shipping.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net
>> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
>>
>> It’s gone but it was Powerstations, nanostations, etc..  .  All
>> the stuff we upgraded from N radios.  Still have a few of the
>> Picostations left I think. The really sad throwing out session was
>> the one was $150,000 worth of SkyPilot equipment
>>
>> Rory
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
>> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Colin Stanners
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 20, 2017 10:04 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Inner City WISP In Detroit
>>
>> Rory, what type of gear are you throwing out?
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Rory Conaway
>> <r...@triadwireless.net <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
>>
>> I just threw out enough to do a few blocks.
>>
>> Rory
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
>> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *CBB - Jay Fuller
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 20, 2017 9:14 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Inner City WISP In Detroit
>>
>> Interesting video. I've often wondered if we should donate
>> some of our older gear to a project like this.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>>
>> *From:*Steve <mailto:li...@wavedirect.org>
>>
>> *To:*af <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>
>> *Sent:*Sunday, November 19, 2017 10:16 AM
>>
>> *Subject:*[AFMUG] Inner City WISP In Detroit
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1B0u6nvcTsI
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1B0u6nvcTsI>
>>
>> This story looks familiar! I've seen and heard this story
>> a dozen times from people at Wispapalooza but in rural
>> settings.  This happening inside a city.  I know there are
>> people in Chicago and other cities as well doing this,
>> however this is a nice documentary.
>>
>> -- Steven Kenney
>> Network Operations Manager
>> WaveDirect Telecommunications
>> http://www.wavedirect.net
>> (519)737-WAVE (9283)
>>
>>
>>
>> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email_
>> source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient>
>> Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-sign
>> ature?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-
>> email_content=emailclient>
>>
>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Inner City WISP In Detroit

[Colin Stanners]

Ah, too bad. Our amateur radio Wi-Fi group has been doing well, built out a
few sites with donated Ubnt/MT gear, we are looking for a bit more -
especially 5ghz radios - that can be gotten for just cost of shipping.

On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
wrote:

> It’s gone but it was Powerstations, nanostations, etc..  .  All the stuff
> we upgraded from N radios.  Still have a few of the Picostations left I
> think. The really sad throwing out session was the one was $150,000 worth
> of SkyPilot equipment
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Colin Stanners
> *Sent:* Monday, November 20, 2017 10:04 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Inner City WISP In Detroit
>
>
>
> Rory, what type of gear are you throwing out?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
> wrote:
>
> I just threw out enough to do a few blocks.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *CBB - Jay Fuller
> *Sent:* Monday, November 20, 2017 9:14 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Inner City WISP In Detroit
>
>
>
>
>
> Interesting video. I've often wondered if we should donate some of our
> older gear to a project like this.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
>
> *From:* Steve <li...@wavedirect.org>
>
> *To:* af <af@afmug.com>
>
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 19, 2017 10:16 AM
>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Inner City WISP In Detroit
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1B0u6nvcTsI
>
> This story looks familiar! I've seen and heard this story a dozen times
> from people at Wispapalooza but in rural settings.  This happening inside a
> city.  I know there are people in Chicago and other cities as well doing
> this, however this is a nice documentary.
>
> --
> Steven Kenney
> Network Operations Manager
> WaveDirect Telecommunications
> http://www.wavedirect.net
> (519)737-WAVE (9283)
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Inner City WISP In Detroit

[Colin Stanners]

Rory, what type of gear are you throwing out?

On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Rory Conaway 
wrote:

> I just threw out enough to do a few blocks.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *CBB - Jay Fuller
> *Sent:* Monday, November 20, 2017 9:14 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Inner City WISP In Detroit
>
>
>
>
>
> Interesting video. I've often wondered if we should donate some of our
> older gear to a project like this.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
>
> *From:* Steve 
>
> *To:* af 
>
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 19, 2017 10:16 AM
>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Inner City WISP In Detroit
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1B0u6nvcTsI
>
> This story looks familiar! I've seen and heard this story a dozen times
> from people at Wispapalooza but in rural settings.  This happening inside a
> city.  I know there are people in Chicago and other cities as well doing
> this, however this is a nice documentary.
>
> --
> Steven Kenney
> Network Operations Manager
> WaveDirect Telecommunications
> http://www.wavedirect.net
> (519)737-WAVE (9283)
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] "Open" NAT

[Colin Stanners]

Spiritual = the socket is inside yourself

SkyPilot = your sockets randomly work a few minutes each day, but with
heavy packet loss.

Customer = angry calls threatening to switch providers since 'tower is
down', but actually your sockets don't work since their son unplugged the
PoE injector to charge his iPhone.

L3 = your sockets are routed to somewhere in Amsterdam

On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 8:48 AM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Open = the outside world can talk to the IP you appear to be coming from
> on port3074?
>
> Strict = you can make sockets, kind of like skype, but the world can't hit
> that port
>
> closed = it can't make sockets
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> 
> Suite 1337
> 
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>
> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
>> Not necessarily all, just the ones it needs. uPNP typically handles this.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *"Lewis Bergman" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Friday, November 10, 2017 7:50:10 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] "Open" NAT
>>
>>
>> I do think they are referring to a DST-NAT or DMZ type of situation where
>> all ports are open to specific IP on the private side of the router.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 6:48 AM Mike Hammett  wrote:
>>
>>> Pretty sure that's an XBox term.
>>>
>>> It means either your DST-NAT works or it doesn't.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Brothers WISP 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> --
>>> *From: *"Adam Moffett" 
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Friday, November 10, 2017 6:44:05 AM
>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] "Open" NAT
>>>
>>>
>>> Is there an authoritative definition of "Open" vs "Strict" NAT?  Or was
>>> the term invented by a game console developer?
>>>
>>> I'm just wondering because I don't think I've heard those terms in any
>>> context other than error messages from customer's XBoxes.
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] SAF

[Colin Stanners]

SurplusWirelessGear
LastMileGear

really, all the gears

On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 12:27 PM,  wrote:

> Who-all sells SAF?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Ethernet Port Part Number

[Colin Stanners]

Pmp450 SM... Unless Cambium changed something, grab a Cambium surge, it is
more expensive per port but that is two that you already had in stock.

On Nov 1, 2017 4:37 PM, "Matt"  wrote:

> Does anybody know the Digikey, Mouser or Jameco part number for
> replacement RJ45 port on Cambium PMP450 SM?  Standard 5ghz SM that can
> use reflector?  Have a few that are broke.
>
> Thanks.
>

Re: [AFMUG] test 123

[Colin Stanners]

Or, the opposite - has a life?

On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Everyone is dead
>
> On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 10:43 PM, Colin Stanners <cstann...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Received.
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 10:33 PM, TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] test 123

[Colin Stanners]

Received.

On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 10:33 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:

>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Six port fiber switch

[Colin Stanners]

You should specify DINrail / desktop / rack mount - or preferred price
range $200 - $1000.

How about these? http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product.php?id=47783
http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product.php?id=48384


On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 5:21 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Options? ...not a Mikrotik fan ..
>
> On Oct 26, 2017 4:19 PM, "Colin Stanners" <cstann...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Be careful of that CRS212-1G-10S-1S+ or similar, some that I've seen have
>> all the SFPs in the same metal block and are passively cooled with little
>> air movement... in hot environments the SFP block will conserve heat up to
>> the point that packet loss will appear as the SFPs cook.
>> On Oct 26, 2017 5:13 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Possibly the lowest cost would be something like the Mikrotik
>>> CRS212-1G-10S-1S+IN Cloud Router Switch. That has 10 SFP cages and one SFP+
>>> cage. Cane be a router or a switch,
>>>
>>> -bp
>>>
>>> --
>>> bp
>>> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Jaime Solorza <
>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Need a switch to connect 6 fiber feeds... any recommendations?
>>>>
>>>
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] Six port fiber switch

[Colin Stanners]

Be careful of that CRS212-1G-10S-1S+ or similar, some that I've seen have
all the SFPs in the same metal block and are passively cooled with little
air movement... in hot environments the SFP block will conserve heat up to
the point that packet loss will appear as the SFPs cook.
On Oct 26, 2017 5:13 PM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:

> Possibly the lowest cost would be something like the Mikrotik
> CRS212-1G-10S-1S+IN Cloud Router Switch. That has 10 SFP cages and one SFP+
> cage. Cane be a router or a switch,
>
> -bp
>
> --
> bp
> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>
> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Need a switch to connect 6 fiber feeds... any recommendations?
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Best Radios (Licensed) for 2 gig

[Colin Stanners]

Look into Bridgewave Navigator, those had enticing specs.

On Oct 21, 2017 5:32 PM, "Mitch Koep"  wrote:

> Am looking at a 22.4 mile link that needs a gig now and 2 gig by end of
> next year
>
> Am trying to figure out the best gear for this application
>
> Thanks
>
> Mitch
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cabinets with AC and heat

[Colin Stanners]

Lewis, one of our suppliers in the US has a big stock of used high-quality
telecom cabinets. I will forward their e-mail to you tomorrow.

On Oct 18, 2017 11:44 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:

I have a few projects coming up that will require some cabinets. After
looking about I find that they are still rediculously expensive.

I am attempting to source them out of China at which I am having a decent
degree of success. At the moment I am attempting to ensure that the Hitachi
air conditioners are well supported here in the states.

Dimensions internally are about 70Hx31Dx31W. Room outside the 19" 4 post
for outlet strips and the like as you can tell. They would ship with a
48vdc power supply since those are required for the AC fan. Aux fan and LED
light would also be 48VDC. It may be possible to change that to 24VDC if
enough people had to have it that way.

So far, an IP55 cabinet with 110VAC 1000 Watts AC for mounted, ground bus
bar, heater, auxillary fan, at least 30 RU 19" rack, separate battery
compartment (probably 12 to 15 inches tall) , and single access door. I am
still working on making sure the breaker panel is Square D or breaker
compatible. Some dry contract alarms will be available like door opening,
high temp, HVAC failure. Nothing to exotic there. I have not specified an
auxillary generator plug but I could.

Looks like it will run me about $2500 landed if I buy a few dozen. I am
still trying to figure out how I would take care of warranty issues but I
believe I'll be able to work this out.

Is anyone interested in taking a few at that price? Shipping is likely to
cost upwards of $300 each depending on location of course.

Re: [AFMUG] {Disarmed} Fwd: Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. FCC ID Application for New Equipment

[Colin Stanners]

What problem(s)?

On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 9:30 PM, Mitch Koep <af...@abwisp.com> wrote:

> Would like the AF5s and AF5X I have to work correctly
>
> been months working with support
>
> On 10/10/2017 1:32 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:
>
> Fancy new and fast AF5XHD
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: FCC ID Alert <ale...@fccid.io>
> Date: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 1:30 PM
> Subject: Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. FCC ID Application for New Equipment
> To: cstann...@gmail.com
>
>
> A new FCC ID application has been submitted by Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. for
> New Equipment.
> See FCC ID SWX-AF5XHD
> <http://email.fccid.io/c/eJwljbsOgzAQBL8Gd7HufNhnChcIgtKnCK0xECzxiMBVvj6Wot2RtpodHbGfQiWiU4CMkGMJECUCaUBpW2vgbggbqBUrW5QwhxBHuU9JLG5kKokGUsjGhAwTAoDWqtLAnsXmeB6-YnVLSp-roLpQXe7fEY88n6_-Vne6f7TidOFKft-n88o_783HVYZj-wF9ei0o>
> Equipment Authorized: Digital Transmission Radio
>
> unsubscribe
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[AFMUG] Fwd: Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. FCC ID Application for New Equipment

[Colin Stanners]

Fancy new and fast AF5XHD

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New Equipment.
See FCC ID SWX-AF5XHD

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Re: [AFMUG] Good - Cost Effective MPPT Solar Controller?

[Colin Stanners]

Look into Morningstar, models depend on your power requirements. If you buy
the models with the RJ11 ports, you can get a $150 ethernet adapter so you
can get stats off them remotely.

On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Gino A. Villarini 
wrote:

> Any pointers?
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] What is the faster PTP LTE products out there for 3.65GHz or 2.4GHz?

[Colin Stanners]

I need to find my Steve quotes file as that definitely belongs in there.

On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Steve Jones 
wrote:

> You can masturbate, or you can screw a chicken. Just because you move the
> chicken in your hand when you screw it doesn't mean you're masturbating.
> In other words use equipment as it is intended.
>
> On Oct 3, 2017 9:25 AM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
>
>> Complexities of the LTE stack, required components for operation, a
>> design around multi-client and not single endpoint performance, etc.
>>
>> On Oct 3, 2017 9:12 AM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:
>>
>>> I don’t understand why LTE wouldn’t be “suited”.  Assuming no noise,
>>> which I have, the PHY Layer should be better.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m trying to get at least 200Mbps and we are testing both a Prism AC2
>>> and an AirFiber 2x.  900MHz is last resort due to its bandwidth limitations
>>> but it’s on the table depending on how this test goes.   Budget is also not
>>> the problem on this project, just performance.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 2, 2017 7:44 PM
>>> *To:* af
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What is the faster PTP LTE products out there
>>> for 3.65GHz or 2.4GHz?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah... LTE isn't particularly well suited to PTP. I guess you could
>>> make it work, but it's going to be a little messy. Baicells would probably
>>> be the only realistic option, since you wouldn't want to be dealing with an
>>> actual LTE core. If you want to try using 3.65ghz, airfiber is probably the
>>> best option, but if there's a low noise floor, 2.4ghz is going to work
>>> better. 900mhz could also be an option if noise isn't too bad.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 2, 2017 9:37 PM, "Nathan Anderson"  wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm confused by the use of "PtP" and "LTE" in the same sentence.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Nathan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Rory Conaway
>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 02, 2017 7:27 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] What is the faster PTP LTE products out there for
>>> 3.65GHz or 2.4GHz?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’ve got a remote link, 5 miles, with about ½ mile of trees.  I’m going
>>> to test 2.4GHz tomorrow but am interested in some of the LTE products that
>>> might be out there.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>>>
>>> *4226 S. 37
>>> th Street •
>>> Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>>>
>>> *602-426-0542 <(602)%20426-0542>*
>>>
>>> *r...@triadwireless.net *
>>>
>>> *www.triadwireless.net *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *“It’s not the team with the best players that win, it’s the players
>>> with the best team that wins!”* — Humphrey Bogart
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Power Alternatives

[Colin Stanners]

Do you have enough tower metal and a welder that you can weld together a
thick generator "cage" and bolt that to the outside of your tower
cabinets/sheds with one-way screws? Or (once transport works enough to get
solar panels) do the same to make solar panel cages?



On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Gino A. Villarini 
wrote:

> Diesel Supply is short, Gens and batts are being stolen at sites, I need
> alternatives! Fuel Cells?
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] WTB 450i-900mhz used AP's

[Colin Stanners]

They're a brand new product and work very nicely (as long as there's no
900mhz noise).. I doubt you could find many at less than 80% of new cost.

On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Kurt Fankhauser 
wrote:

> Anyone got some used 900mhz 450i Ap's they are looking to get rid of?
> Cant' justify paying full price for these things new to only be putting 1-2
> clients on them...
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

[Colin Stanners]

Even for WISPs who are very far from the affected areas, such events are
humbling. Customers say "your company can deliver [good, non-satellite]
internet where no one else can", but all of us rely fully on the backbone
internet connection, usually on a functioning power grid, and need gasoline
to power service vehicles. Once those are gone, no matter how we wish or
pray, everything is dead in the water.

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Craig House 
wrote:

> I'm in st Thomas and have been here a week helping a WISP and general
> cleanup like orphanages   The power is the major issue.  All poles and
> utilities are offline outside of the major port area that has buried
> utilities.  Generators are being flown in every day  word here is 6-9
> months for power to be restored. Fiber phone and cable providers are
> crippled and many of the towers here have most of the equipment not just
> damaged but totally missing.  What is there still is water damaged or has
> fried Ethernet from water infiltration
> But power is the major issue in the USVI also
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 24, 2017, at 16:58, Steve Jones  wrote:
>
> With PR having been on the verge of state bankruptcy, why not, just cut
> and run now. use the influx that's inbound to rebuilt and become wealthy,
> never have to worry about the statehood thing again. Everybody will have
> smartmeters and starbucks
>
> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier than a
>> lot of other Caribbean islands.
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind
>>>  and/or solar power.
>>>
>>>
>>> Erich Kaiser
>>> North Central Tower
>>> er...@northcentraltower.com
>>> Office: 630-621-4804 <(630)%20621-4804>
>>> Cell: 630-777-9291 <(630)%20777-9291>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof.
 Existing supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short
 supply. I've been hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that
 may be optimistic.


 bp
 


 On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

 I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.�
 �
 I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.� I am wondering of
 anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR?
 �
 Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter
 and HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure
 damage.�� Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully
 functional HF, VHF and UHF capability.��
 �
 Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk
 that work with emergency preparedness.�
 �
 I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.�
 Could certainly keep slow speed email going.�



>>>
>

[AFMUG] PMP450 5ghz AP possible case water intrusion

[Colin Stanners]

I'm investigating a PMP450 5ghz AP (old unit - the original ones that came
with the FSK port) that failed on the tower.  RJ45 and especially RJ12
ports have white dots on the pins.  Looking in the case, there seems to be
evidence of water intrusion coming from the little temperature/humidity
control membrane-covered hole in back. But a quick test of dripping water
on the case does not cause water intrusion in that hole.  Has anyone else
seen such issues with older PMP450 APs?

Re: [AFMUG] rb493ah locking up

[Colin Stanners]

If it's ping-watching another router as I understand it, first step is to
try removing that to see if it fixes it.

Some Mikrotiks of RB450/RB493 models had bad capacitors (Su'scon
brown/green) and the routers would start crashing/freezing up after a few
years.  I've taken them out of service, recapped them and used them for
non-critical projects (amateur radio) etc.

On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:07 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:

>
> I have an rb493ah randomly locking up - currently frequency is 2-3 times a
> week.  there is a watchdog timer on it that is catching it and rebooting
> it.  any ideas?  time to replace it?
> all the system log says is system rebooted because of ping watchdog timeout
>
> I suppose it could also be a radio attached?
>
> There is no power on an rb493ah so i don't think it would be a flaky radio
> (rebooting the mikrotik would not fix that)
>
> I am guessing this router is 4-5 years old
>

Re: [AFMUG] 450 no sync

[Colin Stanners]

The internal GPS antenna on those models wasn't great, having a big metal
case on one side of it doesn't help. Better to add external sync, uGPS or
the like.

On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 2:55 AM, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) <
r...@latrobeit.com.au> wrote:

> Ok, as it turns out a reboot didn't fix it but a power cycle did ;-)
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 18 Sep 2017, at 5:15 pm, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) 
> wrote:
>
> Hello
>
>
>
> I am using a 3.6ghz 450 with internal sync.
>
> It now is not syncing.
>
>
>
> Sync pulse source says “Searching”
>
> Onboard GPS says “No Sync”
>
> GPS Receiver says “Acquiring GPS Information...”
>
>
>
> Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Rhys
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Pauls cashflow with afmug

[Colin Stanners]

The AFMUG list has travelled through at least 4 hosts:

1) Part-15.org, until Michael Anderson's memorable "I QUIT" and pulling the
plug on the server...
2) Wireless Beehive, until the unfortunate split with Beehive Mfg/McCown
Tech
3) WISPA, until some discussions about list sponsorship/content control?
4) PDMnet, as Paul offered their support to simplify the above


It's safe to say PDMnet will be around and supporting AFMUG for a long
time, however many are pitching in to keep their accountants happy about it
too.


On Sep 16, 2017 10:01 AM, "Adair Winter" 
wrote:

I guess I'm the odd ball out, what are we donating to/for?

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 9:37 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> I ante’d up too, start dealing.
>
> *From:* Jeremy
> *Sent:* Friday, September 15, 2017 9:08 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Pauls cashflow with afmug
>
> Just sent you $100 (cyber-surplus)
>
> On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 6:46 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:
>
>> Thanks Steve,
>>
>>
>>
>> I was thinking of that also.  It’s actually more than that, we kept the
>> support only because there wasn’t a decent pay per incident plan with
>> anything that added value to solving a problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> So, its around $ 200 per month.  Last time, we got in $ 950
>> (approximately).  I don’t mind a difficiency (meaning PDMNet pays a decent
>> part of it). And, we did it the first 2 years fully bearing costs.
>>
>>
>>
>> We really don’t mind doing this.  I know there was a discussion last time
>> about options.  My simple statement is “It works great” one less thing to
>> deal with, yet getting good results.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any contributions are certainly welcome, especially at this time.  We
>> have heavy losses with customer gear and recovery costs.  The largest part
>> of our coverage area got 100mph+ gusts.  A very large tree came apart
>> (probably a tornado) and blew that and a bunch of other stuff into a Rohn
>> 25G 150ft. and brought it down.  Trashed everything on the tower also. So,
>> there is a $ 15K hit to get a new one up (Rohn 45G)  and they just got the
>> land cleared yesterday,  trying to get new foundation work done.
>>
>>
>>
>> It was a tower site that we acquired and the foundations turned out to be
>> substandard, so we have to start from scratch and the property owner is not
>> contributing as he “Doesn’t make enough money from it”.
>>
>>
>>
>> Our paypal address is pa...@pdmnet.net
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Friday, September 15, 2017 12:56 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Pauls cashflow with afmug
>>
>>
>>
>> Last update btw, was about 1800 bucks a year without support.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 14, 2017 11:30 PM, "Steve Jones" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Its been a bit since a benefit drive for the list. Current situations
>> with weather and all might indicate a need for an afmug influx again. My
>> donations come out of my personal pockets. Im personally rich in spirit,
>> poor in cash. But can we get the paypal address back up so right now that
>> cashflow isnt a concern?
>>
>>
>>
>
>



-- 

Adair Winter
VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 <(806)%20316-5071>
C: 806.231.7180 <(806)%20231-7180>
http://www.amarillowireless.net

Re: [AFMUG] Pauls cashflow with afmug

[Colin Stanners]

Sending you some funny-coloured money Paul. Thank you for your support of
this group, and good luck in the recovery.

On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 7:46 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:

> Thanks Steve,
>
>
>
> I was thinking of that also.  It’s actually more than that, we kept the
> support only because there wasn’t a decent pay per incident plan with
> anything that added value to solving a problem.
>
>
>
> So, its around $ 200 per month.  Last time, we got in $ 950
> (approximately).  I don’t mind a difficiency (meaning PDMNet pays a decent
> part of it). And, we did it the first 2 years fully bearing costs.
>
>
>
> We really don’t mind doing this.  I know there was a discussion last time
> about options.  My simple statement is “It works great” one less thing to
> deal with, yet getting good results.
>
>
>
> Any contributions are certainly welcome, especially at this time.  We have
> heavy losses with customer gear and recovery costs.  The largest part of
> our coverage area got 100mph+ gusts.  A very large tree came apart
> (probably a tornado) and blew that and a bunch of other stuff into a Rohn
> 25G 150ft. and brought it down.  Trashed everything on the tower also. So,
> there is a $ 15K hit to get a new one up (Rohn 45G)  and they just got the
> land cleared yesterday,  trying to get new foundation work done.
>
>
>
> It was a tower site that we acquired and the foundations turned out to be
> substandard, so we have to start from scratch and the property owner is not
> contributing as he “Doesn’t make enough money from it”.
>
>
>
> Our paypal address is pa...@pdmnet.net
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Friday, September 15, 2017 12:56 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Pauls cashflow with afmug
>
>
>
> Last update btw, was about 1800 bucks a year without support.
>
>
>
> On Sep 14, 2017 11:30 PM, "Steve Jones"  wrote:
>
> Its been a bit since a benefit drive for the list. Current situations with
> weather and all might indicate a need for an afmug influx again. My
> donations come out of my personal pockets. Im personally rich in spirit,
> poor in cash. But can we get the paypal address back up so right now that
> cashflow isnt a concern?
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Stand off for 2.4 omni on Rohn 45

[Colin Stanners]

http://www.tiltek.com/doc/AppNote3.pdf   I'd try 2-3ft, far enough to
reduce pattern ripple and tower shadow but close enough for some maintenance

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 9:21 PM, Jay Weekley 
wrote:

> How far from a leg of a Rohn 45 would you put a 2.4 omni to prevent or
> minimize any kind of shadow effect?  I believe the omni we have is from KP
> Performance and the bracket will have the antenna about a quarter inch from
> the leg and the top of the tower is not available.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt firmware

[Colin Stanners]

I will send them.
On Sep 14, 2017 2:25 AM, "George Skorup" <george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote:

> "You don’t have access to this content."
>
> So, I opened a ticket with Exalt support about 3 weeks ago and they said
> they'd give me this Dropbox access. Never happened. How nice of them.
>
> On 9/14/2017 2:11 AM, Colin Stanners wrote:
>
> Dropbox from Exalt techs
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/l/scl/AAAJyFwsMOQP6afZPf0jaf2R_YPm2RLUIA8
> https://www.dropbox.com/l/scl/AABphkiQYarhcrT18s0rIEfaVJykW4zmzR4
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 1:57 AM, George Skorup <george.sko...@cbcast.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Anybody have the ExtendAir G2 1.4.2/1.4.3 release zip?
>>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt firmware

[Colin Stanners]

I will send them.
On Sep 14, 2017 2:25 AM, "George Skorup" <george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote:

> "You don’t have access to this content."
>
> So, I opened a ticket with Exalt support about 3 weeks ago and they said
> they'd give me this Dropbox access. Never happened. How nice of them.
>
> On 9/14/2017 2:11 AM, Colin Stanners wrote:
>
> Dropbox from Exalt techs
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/l/scl/AAAJyFwsMOQP6afZPf0jaf2R_YPm2RLUIA8
> https://www.dropbox.com/l/scl/AABphkiQYarhcrT18s0rIEfaVJykW4zmzR4
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 1:57 AM, George Skorup <george.sko...@cbcast.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Anybody have the ExtendAir G2 1.4.2/1.4.3 release zip?
>>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt firmware

[Colin Stanners]

Dropbox from Exalt techs

https://www.dropbox.com/l/scl/AAAJyFwsMOQP6afZPf0jaf2R_YPm2RLUIA8
https://www.dropbox.com/l/scl/AABphkiQYarhcrT18s0rIEfaVJykW4zmzR4


On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 1:57 AM, George Skorup 
wrote:

> Anybody have the ExtendAir G2 1.4.2/1.4.3 release zip?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Basic Ethernet cable tester that survives PoE voltage?

[Colin Stanners]

Many of the basic testers use DC voltage to test the lines, so they
wouldn't pass through the inserter to test those lines.

On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 1:04 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> If you took a POE inserter and put the tester on the data only side, that
> should protect the tester.
> In theory you can capacitively couple ethernet but I have never tried it.
>
> *From:* Rory Conaway
> *Sent:* Friday, September 8, 2017 11:37 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Basic Ethernet cable tester that survives PoE
> voltage?
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Generic-sfg-Network-Tester-
> Telephone/dp/B00G55ZGZ8/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8=1504892183&
> sr=8-5=ethernet+tester
>
>
>
>
>
> I’ve seen them for $5 but this is still a pretty good deal.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Friday, September 8, 2017 10:35 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Basic Ethernet cable tester that survives PoE
> voltage?
>
>
>
> Pockethernet?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
>
> *From: *"Colin Stanners" <cstann...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Friday, September 8, 2017 11:57:59 AM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Basic Ethernet cable tester that survives PoE voltage?
>
> I'm looking for a basic-level Ethernet cable tester that only checks the
> wiremap, gives pass/fail and preferably is <$100 and has a simple TDR.
>
> It must survive Canopy 30V PoE voltage as it seems that many of the dead
> testers that we have in a pile are due to field techs plugging them into
> live lines. Monoprice $80 tester is OK but definitely does not survive the
> live lines.
>
> A test I'm considering is soldering ~15V zener diodes inside a unit to
> trigger a PSU's short protection before frying the cable tester...
>
>
>

[AFMUG] Basic Ethernet cable tester that survives PoE voltage?

[Colin Stanners]

I'm looking for a basic-level Ethernet cable tester that only checks the
wiremap, gives pass/fail and preferably is <$100 and has a simple TDR.

It must survive Canopy 30V PoE voltage as it seems that many of the dead
testers that we have in a pile are due to field techs plugging them into
live lines. Monoprice $80 tester is OK but definitely does not survive the
live lines.

A test I'm considering is soldering ~15V zener diodes inside a unit to
trigger a PSU's short protection before frying the cable tester...

Re: [AFMUG] Link to Large Boat

[Colin Stanners]

I was on the Vancouver-Victoria BC ferry, those go along a long path and
jump between APs on towers on multiple islands. They use the Proxim 8200
radios which support fast hand-off, and from what I understand they
augmented that with BATS self-aiming systems (instead of the original omnis
- there are still some on the ships I saw) to increase the signal.  BATS
may be excessive but if it's shorter distance you could do the Proxim 8200
and a non-downtilted omni?

https://medium.com/bats-pathline/connected-location-aware-broadband-ferry-data-communications-network-e57791667019#.g1o6ov97h


On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Dave  wrote:

> Ok, either I am getting to old for these crazy challenges or I am
> subjecting my self to motivation I have not figured this one out yet LOL
>
> We have a large site seeing Boat that sits on one of our lakes which
> navigates north and south of the lake and some to the east.
> We have 3 towers that can easily see a majority of the lake. One tower can
> see most of the north end and the other 2 can see south and east.
>
> So the challenge is to provide a content streaming connection to this boat
> which moves slowly across the lake.
> My answer first was use an omni on 3Ghz but the omni has downtilt built in
> so thats a no go.
> The plan B was to use a 4 cluster of integrated subscribers to talk to the
> towers.
> The next question would be if these subs are able to move from one ap to
> the next.
> How would you connect them to a router IE:RB493G to provide a single
> seemless connection in the boat?
>
> Im open to anything at this point. Oh yeah there is a Mobile hotspot for
> failover.
>
> I think I know the answer but wanted to see what others would do.
>
> Thanks
> Dave
>
> --
>

[AFMUG] Fwd: Cambium Networks Inc. FCC ID Application for New Equipment

[Colin Stanners]

-- Forwarded message --
From: "FCC ID Alert" 
Date: Aug 30, 2017 7:30 AM
Subject: Cambium Networks Inc. FCC ID Application for New Equipment
To: "FCC ID Alert" 
Cc:

A new FCC ID application has been submitted by Cambium Networks Inc. for
New Equipment.
See FCC ID Z8H89FT0031

Equipment Authorized: ePMP Force 190 Transceiver

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Re: [AFMUG] Planet

[Colin Stanners]

Sterling, do you mean the GS-5220-*46S2C4X ?* ( *46*-*port* 100/1000BASE-X
+ 2-*port* Gigabit TP/SFP Combo + 4-*port* 10G SFP+).

On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 1:38 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
wrote:

> I’ve heard good things about their hardened gear.
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> But I’m currently trying my hardest to get five of their switches refunded
> or credited.
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> They are the 48 port SFP four port SFP+ switches, I don’t know the model
> number off hand, it’s large.
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> But they were DEFINITELY NOT rated for use in a rack, though I didn’t know
> that when I bought them.
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> They had all sorts of bugs in the SFP and SFP+ ports when fully loaded.
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> Good news is they were pretty quick to respond and diagnose and send out
> beta firmware to load.
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> Bad news is the beta firmware did nothing to help.
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> And their suggestion of “do not put the switches one on top of another in
> a rack without space between” was really stupid.
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> I think those particular switches were meant to be kept in a very cool
> room, isolated physically from anything so their weak ass fans could keep
> it cool under load.
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> They were at least 10-20 degrees CELCIUS hotter than any of my other
> switches in the rack, even when ‘spaced’ apart from each other.
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> In one case HALF of the SFP ports, 25-48 on the right ‘bank’ completely
> died and wouldn’t light up anymore on one of the switches.
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> Just plan sucky hardware in that case, that no amount of beta firmware was
> ever going to fix, lol!
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 24, 2017 1:11 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Planet
>
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>
> Planet has been talked about a few times in the past here.
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> They do have some interesting stuff.
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> I just noticed they make a mini 2-port GPON OLT for $1400.
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> There's also this little bugger which looks like it could be a WISP
> micro-POP in a box:
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> http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product.php?id=48944
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> Is this a good company in general?  Do they have stable firmware and good
> documentation?
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[AFMUG] Fwd: Mikrotikls SIA FCC ID Application for New Equipment

[Colin Stanners]

Mikrotik getting into 60Ghz, this seems to be their mini indoor AP.

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[AFMUG] Fwd: Mikrotikls SIA FCC ID Application for New Equipment

[Colin Stanners]

Mikrotik getting into 60Ghz, this seems to be their mini indoor AP.

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Re: [AFMUG] how far and much

[Colin Stanners]

If absolutely all the electronics are at the bottom, having just antennas
and waveguide at the tower, I think it ahould be almost impossible to have
a lightning strike damage gear.

On Aug 16, 2017 5:29 AM, "David Milholen"  wrote:

I am asking for pure simple curiosity.

How far would you go and how much would you spend to have a bullet proof
Tower site?

I am looking for answers in small class tower to super duty types or leases.

What I mean by bullet proof is How many time a year are you replacing gear
due to weather complications

or how many times are you going to back to the site to reboot something .
How many times are you remoting into a

site to adj power or channels to avoid interference. How many times are you
having to make adjustments to ethernet ports.

All these tasks add up in time.

Our team this year has only had to visit 2 sites unexpectedly due to
weather and take the next step in making it bullet proof.



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Re: [AFMUG] Dragonwave Repair

[Colin Stanners]

Which radio model? If older (Horizon duo era) SWG may have an equivalent
radio to sell you as they received lots of DW stock.

On Aug 14, 2017 10:22 AM, "David Sovereen" 
wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> We sent a radio to Dragonwave for repair.  They’ve come back to say it is
> not repairable.  Here’s there message:
> —-
>
> Please note that we have received your unit(s) with the Serial number(s) :
> C1N14DFD0004
>
> We have been able to determine that we are unable to repair this/these
> unit(s), due to water damage to internal components. The water leak
> occurred through the inside of the connectors likely due to poor
> installation/handling or water protection. This is not a manufacturing
> issue.
>
> Please note that at this time it will be necessary for you to buy a
> replacement unit if you require one.
>
> Please advise if you would like us to return this unit to you or if you
> would like us to dispose of it here.
>
> Should you wish to have it disposed of at DragonWave, please indicate so
> via an email.
> —-
>
> Knowing that the internal components suffered water damage, does anyone
> here, or do any vendors on this list, think they would be able to fix it,
> such that I should pay to have them ship it back to us?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave
>
> ==
>  MERCURY NETWORK CORPORATION
>  David Sovereen
>  989-837-3790 x 151 <(989)%20837-3790>
>  2719 Ashman St Ste 1, Midland, MI  48640-4434
>  http://www.mercury.net
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT..Marlon Schaefer .. pioneer WISP

[Colin Stanners]

I remember that name from the part-15.org / Micheal Anderson days how
long has it been, around 10 years already? Is Marlon still in the WISP
business?

On Aug 13, 2017 6:51 AM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

We had dinner with Marlon and Melissa Schaefer at La Posta in Mesilla, NM
yesterday evening.  They brought their daughter to get settle in at NMSU.
It was nice to touch base with him and get news on old friends from early
wireless days.  They have a cool 35 ft mobile home they driving to PHX to
visit friends and then Vegas for some R  Yes they loved the real Mexican
food , some Tecate and took some Hatch chile.  Mi casa es su casa...

Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] 600 10-05 firmware

[Colin Stanners]

Sent off list.
On Aug 12, 2017 8:36 AM, "Andreas Wiatowski" 
wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> Can't seem to find my 10-05 for my 600 PTP
> Crazy lightning here yesterday night...couple of tornadoes in South
> Western Ontario. Went to deploy my spare 600 and have a really old SW
> version..need to get to 10-05 before 10-08.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
> Silo Wireless Inc.
> 1-866-727-4238 x-600
> http://www.silowireless.com
> Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV

Re: [AFMUG] OT: at the lake

[Colin Stanners]

I'm at a music festival in the BC mountains right now, music will start
blasting all day and night, people are walking around wearing the wackiest
costumes (or nothing at all)... and still I'm amusing myself spotting SMs
of the festival's local intranet (Canopy 2.4/900 FSK and looks like ePMP)
and imagining plans to setup solar-powered repeaters on top of these nearby
tall mountains.
On Aug 9, 2017 10:03 PM, "Steve Jones"  wrote:

> So I'm at lake Shelbyville, I recommend this joint to anybody looking for
> something to do in Illinois.
> As I sit here by the fire with a glorious view of the moonlit lake, I
> wonder if there will ever be a point in my life, even if i leave the
> industry that I won't be thinking about how to get 99 percent territory
> coverage.
> Right now I'm thinking some sort of solar powered wind turbine backup bouy
> omni mesh solution with 900 mhz into each leg serving WiFi to an average 10
> campsites.
> Then I start thinking about batteries in the bouys and access for
> maintenance summer vs winter.
> About that point I start to think "listen here, motherfucker, you get 3 to
> 5 days a year you don't have to answer your phone, and this year you took
> 7. Sit back, drink beer, listen to country music from the 50s, pass out by
> the lake."
> Then I think to myself " does my phone have good enough service to relay
> this to the degenerates over at animal farm?"
> And Jesus delivers.
> Have a great week guys
>
>