Re: [AFMUG] FYI Cambium PTP doesn't sync with PMP

2016-10-28 Thread Jon Langeler
It seems anti-Cambium not to have that sync work 100%. And anything less than 100% these days and the customers will notice. Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. On Oct 28, 2016, at 11:11 AM, Matt wrote: >> Not 100% impossible. It's worked for us if the

Re: [AFMUG] FYI Cambium PTP doesn't sync with PMP

2016-10-28 Thread Matt
> Not 100% impossible. It's worked for us if the master PTP450 is co-located > with the PMP450 APs. We set the DL % to the same (we're using 65% DL where > we're doing this). > > The big problem is the auto-ranging that the PTP450 does, and there's not > much you can do about it. Once it's synced

Re: [AFMUG] FYI Cambium PTP doesn't sync with PMP

2016-10-28 Thread Bill Prince
Not 100% impossible. It's worked for us if the master PTP450 is co-located with the PMP450 APs. We set the DL % to the same (we're using 65% DL where we're doing this). The big problem is the auto-ranging that the PTP450 does, and there's not much you can do about it. Once it's synced up, if

Re: [AFMUG] FYI Cambium PTP doesn't sync with PMP

2016-10-28 Thread Jon Langeler
We do. Just thought I would try PTP in a small instance Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Oct 28, 2016, at 6:44 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: > > Why no use a 900 ap and sm? > > Gino A. Villarini > @gvillarini > > > > > > Gino Villarini > > President >

Re: [AFMUG] FYI Cambium PTP doesn't sync with PMP

2016-10-28 Thread Dennis Burgess
Coverages: www.towercoverage.com Office: 314-735-0270 E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 5:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FYI Cambium PTP doesn't sync with PMP I know

Re: [AFMUG] FYI Cambium PTP doesn't sync with PMP

2016-10-28 Thread Gino Villarini
Why no use a 900 ap and sm? Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini Gino Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 [cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png] On Oct 27, 2016, at 6:21 PM, Jon Langeler

Re: [AFMUG] FYI Cambium PTP doesn't sync with PMP

2016-10-27 Thread Matt
I know it would not be a good idea to run PMP450 and PTP450 on same frequency but it sure would be nice if it allowed the next adjacent frequency to be used. We run multiple 5ghz PTP450i synced masters's on same frequency in different directions on same tower all the time. Keep them on one side

Re: [AFMUG] FYI Cambium PTP doesn't sync with PMP

2016-10-27 Thread Jon Langeler
Yeah. I never tried it before. It's not an awesome idea. But if the customer pays $1500 for the install, we thought we would try a PTP in their direction. 900MHz :-) Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Oct 27, 2016, at 4:35 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > >

Re: [AFMUG] FYI Cambium PTP doesn't sync with PMP

2016-10-27 Thread Adam Moffett
YeahI'm curious who/what led you to believe otherwise. Did Cambium sales or support ever say that a PTP could sync with a PMP? On 10/27/2016 4:23 PM, George Skorup wrote: The other problem since the beginning of time with Canopy style PTPs is that the master starts up in beaconing mode

Re: [AFMUG] FYI Cambium PTP doesn't sync with PMP

2016-10-27 Thread George Skorup
The other problem since the beginning of time with Canopy style PTPs is that the master starts up in beaconing mode with a max range of like 120 miles and waits for a BHS reg attempt then does auto-ranging and shifts the timing. So yeah, it's pretty much impossible. On 10/27/2016 3:18 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] FYI Cambium PTP doesn't sync with PMP

2016-10-27 Thread Sean Heskett
that's been true since the beginning of time. you can get it close with 50% downlink on the AP and then use the frame calculator to match the air delay parameter to the BHS. not easy at all but you could probably get it to work. your best bet is to use different bands for PMP and PTP tho.

Re: [AFMUG] FYI Cambium PTP doesn't sync with PMP

2016-10-27 Thread Nathan Anderson
You want to re-use a distribution channel as a backhaul channel, too? That seems like a bad idea anyway. -- Nathan From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 12:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FYI Cambium PTP doesn't sync

Re: [AFMUG] FYI Cambium PTP doesn't sync with PMP

2016-10-27 Thread Jon Langeler
Nah PMP450 with PTP450 Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Oct 27, 2016, at 2:44 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > I don't believe they're supposed to, assuming ptp650? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite

Re: [AFMUG] FYI Cambium PTP doesn't sync with PMP

2016-10-27 Thread Josh Luthman
I don't believe they're supposed to, assuming ptp650? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 27, 2016 2:37 PM, "Jon Langeler" wrote: > I don't think their support department understands the concept of

[AFMUG] FYI Cambium PTP doesn't sync with PMP

2016-10-27 Thread Jon Langeler
I don't think their support department understands the concept of sync. But as of now we have given up on PTP products syncing 100% with PMP products. Oh well Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc.