Re: [AFMUG] I'll be looking at the guy across the aisle with the open laptop a little more closely on my next flight

2015-05-18 Thread Rory Conaway
Or he may have saved future planes from crashing. He did try to warn them and nobody seemed to listen. Based on my experience with management and the fact the FBI thinks he flew the plane sideways, I believe he could do it. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] I'll be looking at the guy across the aisle with the open laptop a little more closely on my next flight

2015-05-18 Thread WaveDirect
Yeah ... makes me wonder what the hell they were thinking by allowing the wifi network be on the same network as the flight controls. This is a possible Cylon situation. - Original Message - From: Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] I'll be looking at the guy across the aisle with the open laptop a little more closely on my next flight

2015-05-18 Thread Josh Luthman
IIRC on Boeing the info network and flight control stuff is separated by nothing more than a VLAN. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I am going to totally

Re: [AFMUG] I'll be looking at the guy across the aisle with the open laptop a little more closely on my next flight

2015-05-18 Thread Chuck McCown
But when the FMS sends a command to an aileron, I will be gobsmacked to discover that commend involved ethernet in any way. There is triple redundancy on the fly by wire systems. However, if there is some kind of ethernet port on the FMS that could be used to take over FMS in some kind of

Re: [AFMUG] I'll be looking at the guy across the aisle with the open laptop a little more closely on my next flight

2015-05-18 Thread WaveDirect
Most likely it isn't the control systems they took control of. Probably the GPS. Todays jets are pretty simple. You learned to do all of it manually but in reality most pilots today just take off and land and that is about it. Rest of it is all automatic by tuning in alt/speed and nav

Re: [AFMUG] I'll be looking at the guy across the aisle with the open laptop a little more closely on my next flight

2015-05-18 Thread Daniel White
I'd say something snarky but I'm writing this e-mail while in flight on the airplane Wi-Fi. Everyone around me has a laptop open too. H... Daniel White (303) 746-3590 -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of WaveDirect Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] I'll be looking at the guy across the aisle with the open laptop a little more closely on my next flight

2015-05-17 Thread Chuck McCown
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DO-178B I designed a system and wrote the software for an airborne PBX that got installed in corporate,head of state and military aircraft avionics bays. It had nothing to do with command and control systems but I still had to get it certified. DO-178B Level A

Re: [AFMUG] I'll be looking at the guy across the aisle with the open laptop a little more closely on my next flight

2015-05-16 Thread Sean Heskett
Honestly it's highly unlikely the inflight infotainment system is tied to the flight computer other than they share the same power source. The FBI just doesn't want anyone tampering with ANYTHING to do with commercial aviation. Seems like WIRED could have done some better reporting by digging

Re: [AFMUG] I'll be looking at the guy across the aisle with the open laptop a little more closely on my next flight

2015-05-16 Thread Jason McKemie
Sounds like the systems are indirectly linked. On Saturday, May 16, 2015, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: Honestly it's highly unlikely the inflight infotainment system is tied to the flight computer other than they share the same power source. The FBI just doesn't want anyone tampering

[AFMUG] I'll be looking at the guy across the aisle with the open laptop a little more closely on my next flight

2015-05-16 Thread Rory Conaway
http://www.wired.com/2015/05/feds-say-banned-researcher-commandeered-plane/ Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO 4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.netmailto:r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.nethttp://www.triadwireless.net/ That which can be destroyed