I spent years with in-house developers. The product was never done. It worked
but it required continual work.
From: Cameron Crum
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 4:38 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing
If it is the same wisp I'm thin
If it is the same wisp I'm thinking of, they "are not married" to BillMax,
but it is what they started with and they have in house developers
which makes having a billing only system with a decent API not such a bad
thing. You are going to spend your money one way or another when it comes
to your
Somebody had to say it
On Sat, May 8, 2021, 9:29 AM Darin Steffl wrote:
> I would never trust Ubiquiti to handle my source of income. They're junk
> with no real support.
>
> On Sat, May 8, 2021, 8:40 AM Robert wrote:
>
>> Right up until ubnt kicks non-ubiquiti people off and sues them...
>>
Quicksand is a degraded form of rock...
On 05/08/2021 01:45 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
I will not build anything upon the rock of UBNT.
*From:* Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Saturday, May 8, 2021 12:44 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing
My bigger fear with Ubiq
Taking lessons from Google on that...
On 05/08/2021 11:44 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
My bigger fear with Ubiquiti is that they'll abandon it. They are not
shy about leaving an old product behind.
On 5/8/2021 9:39 AM, Robert wrote:
Right up until ubnt kicks non-ubiquiti people off and sues
I will not build anything upon the rock of UBNT.
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2021 12:44 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing
My bigger fear with Ubiquiti is that they'll abandon it. They are not shy
about leaving an old product behind.
On 5/8/20
My bigger fear with Ubiquiti is that they'll abandon it. They are not
shy about leaving an old product behind.
On 5/8/2021 9:39 AM, Robert wrote:
Right up until ubnt kicks non-ubiquiti people off and sues them...
On 5/8/21 12:28 AM, Timothy Steele wrote:
sign up for stripe
Then setup UISP
I would never trust Ubiquiti to handle my source of income. They're junk
with no real support.
On Sat, May 8, 2021, 8:40 AM Robert wrote:
> Right up until ubnt kicks non-ubiquiti people off and sues them...
>
> On 5/8/21 12:28 AM, Timothy Steele wrote:
>
> sign up for stripe
>
> Then setup UISP
Right up until ubnt kicks non-ubiquiti people off and sues them...
On 5/8/21 12:28 AM, Timothy Steele wrote:
sign up for stripe
Then setup UISP
you don't need to use any Ubiquiti devices to use a self-hosted UISP CRM
especially not if you don't want any of the fancy stuff it dose
really the
sign up for stripe
Then setup UISP
you don't need to use any Ubiquiti devices to use a self-hosted UISP CRM
especially not if you don't want any of the fancy stuff it dose
really the best truly FREE option
if you want to pay then I would go with Sonar
if you want to pay a ton then powercode
Visiting with a WISP that has way more than 20,000 subs last week, I was
a bit surprised to hear they used Billmax and are very happy with it.
Billmax probably doesn't get enough discussion in the community IMHO.
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Daniel White
Co-Founder
phone: +1 (702) 470-2770
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Cc: Chuck McCown ; AnimalFarm
Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing
Yes, so
far that is all we are loo
Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing
Yes, so far that is all we are looking for.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 6, 2021, at 4:14 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account)
wrote:
I'd also consider Billmax if you're looking for billing only.It's less
expensive bec
You live in a free country, so your future is whatever you choose for it
to be.
Dad jokes are definitely a free choice.
On 5/7/2021 10:11 AM, dave via AF wrote:
OMG.. is this my future in in 10 years
On 5/7/21 8:44 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
Does razor sharp wit count?
On 5/7/2021 9:42 AM,
OMG.. is this my future in in 10 years
On 5/7/21 8:44 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
Does razor sharp wit count?
On 5/7/2021 9:42 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
I haven't shaved for 45 years. Don't even own a razor.
bp
On 5/6/2021 9:18 PM, Jan-GAMs wrote:
When you're 67 your pencil-lead will be
Does razor sharp wit count?
On 5/7/2021 9:42 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
I haven't shaved for 45 years. Don't even own a razor.
bp
On 5/6/2021 9:18 PM, Jan-GAMs wrote:
When you're 67 your pencil-lead will be broken and your razor won't shave
On 5/6/21 2:36 PM, dave via AF wrote:
If my mind is
I haven't shaved for 45 years. Don't even own a razor.
bp
On 5/6/2021 9:18 PM, Jan-GAMs wrote:
When you're 67 your pencil-lead will be broken and your razor
won't shave
On 5/6/21 2:36 PM, dave via AF wrote:
When you're 67 your pencil-lead will be broken and your razor won't shave
On 5/6/21 2:36 PM, dave via AF wrote:
If my mind is still as sharp as it is today when im 67 I will take my
time in retirement after visiting the oceans and mountains in our
nation and write a complete open source
gt;>>>>
>>>>> And yes, you will need to host it yourself, unless there is a third
>>>>> party, or they have a recommended hosting third party.
>>>>>
>>>>> I forget if they had that service or not, but you could ask them abou
> seen even within the last few months, they are still storing credit cards
> in plain text in the DB.
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 10:40 AM Chuck McCown via AF
> wrote:
>
> Do I have to host Plat?
>
>
>
> *From:* Sterling Jacobson
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, May
Thursday, May 6, 2021 9:50 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing
I'd be careful of Plat if you want PCI compliance. In the systems I've seen
even within the last few months, they are still storing credit cards in plain
ask them about that
>>> too.
>>>
>>> Otherwise I think it does need at least a VM with windows and some form of
>>> MS SQL license…
>>>
>>> From: AF On Behalf Of Cameron Crum
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 9:50 AM
>
If my mind is still as sharp as it is today when im 67 I will take my
time in retirement after visiting the oceans and mountains in our nation
and write a complete open source product for ease of use.
On 5/6/21 4:30 PM, dave via AF wrote:
Freeside was the goto when support was good and
Freeside was the goto when support was good and available
We still use it heavily and its completely free outside of outside
support cost to help with new upgrades and modules.
I am pushing to find another open source that is widely supported.
It now has inventory accounting as well.
On
…
From: AF
On Behalf Of Cameron Crum
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 9:50 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing
I'd be careful of
: "Josh Luthman"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 2:02:22 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing
You're working super hard to not work hard. Get a real billing system!
Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937
: David Sovereen
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Intuit
& Billing
Platypus
passes PCI compliance an
eron Crum
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 6, 2021 11:38 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing
>
> I wouldn't count on it. Most of the systems do this now (tokenize with the
> processor and just store a token and last 4 to show the cus
, 2021 11:38 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing
I wouldn't count on it. Most of the systems do this now (tokenize with
the processor and just store a token and last 4 to show the customer)
to take away your liability, but every instance of Plat
g billing. They have to pay manually each month, at least
> for now.
>
> *From:* Cameron Crum
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 6, 2021 11:38 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing
>
> I wouldn't count on it. Most of the systems do this now (t
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing
I wouldn't count on it. Most of the systems do this now (tokenize with the
processor and just store a token and last 4 to show the customer) to take away
your liability, but every instance of Plat I've seen has credit c
s. People can click on
the link on the invoice and manually enter it each month.
*From:* David Sovereen via AF
*Sent:* Thursday, May 6, 2021 10:56 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Cc:* David Sovereen
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing
Platypus passes PC
> *From:* David Sovereen via AF
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 6, 2021 10:56 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Cc:* David Sovereen
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing
>
> Platypus passes PCI compliance and stores credit card information in an
> encrypted
1 10:56 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Cc:* David Sovereen
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing
Platypus passes PCI compliance and stores credit card information in
an encrypted form when configured to do so. If you have an old
install where your credit card information was not encrypted by
From: David
Sovereen via AF
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 10:56 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users
Group
Cc: David Sovereen
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Intuit
I wouldn’t want to store any credit cards. People can click on the link on the
invoice and manually enter it each month.
From: David Sovereen via AF
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 10:56 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Cc: David Sovereen
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing
Plat
When it came up for us, there was something about the term "ISP"
that was a dirty word within Intuit. My impression at the time was
that what they thought of as an internet service provider was
different from what we thought of it as.
We caught it early enough to
I'm curious how Intuit came to that conclusion, but maybe you'll never know.
On 5/6/2021 10:56 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
We have exhausted all of our appeals, the only thing they will tell us
is that they don’t approve of our “products”. AKA internet service and
that they are happy for us
M Chuck McCown via AF <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
> Do I have to host Plat?
>
> From: Sterling Jacobson <>
> Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 9:05 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing
>
:* Re: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing
I'd be careful of Plat if you want PCI compliance. In the systems I've
seen even within the last few months, they are still storing credit
cards in plain text in the DB.
On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 10:40 AM Chuck McCown via AF <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrot
host Plat?
From: Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 9:05 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing
I think Platypus is still free up to a certain number of active customers.
From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of
Chuc
n
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 6, 2021 9:05 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing
>
>
> I think Platypus is still free up to a certain number of active customers.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCo
Do I have to host Plat?
From: Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 9:05 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing
I think Platypus is still free up to a certain number of active customers.
From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
gt; To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing
>
> On Thu May 6 2021 09:56, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
> > We have exhausted all of our appeals, the only thing they will tell us is
> > that they don’t approve of our “products”. AKA internet
Is Freeside the company Ivan supports?
-Original Message-
From: Larry Smith
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 9:15 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing
On Thu May 6 2021 09:56, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
We have exhausted all of our app
On Thu May 6 2021 09:56, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
> We have exhausted all of our appeals, the only thing they will tell us is
> that they don’t approve of our “products”. AKA internet service and that
> they are happy for us to be a QB customer...
>
> So, gonna get a stand alone billing system
Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing
I think Platypus is still free up to a certain number of active customers.
From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 8:56 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Cc: Chuck McCown
Subject: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billin
I think Platypus is still free up to a certain number of active customers.
From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 8:56 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Cc: Chuck McCown
Subject: [AFMUG] Intuit & Billing
We have exhausted all of our appeals, the only thing they will tell
Self hosted UISP checks your boxes.
It even has a QB online plugin that copies over revenue and invoices.
Its decent for free.
Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8 Active, an AT 5G Evolution capable smartphone
Original message
From: Chuck McCown via AF
Date: 5/6/21 9:57 AM
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