Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday
Here is what the paper said: At 3:50 p.m., the driver of a minivan crashed on Pony Express Parkway near 2500 East after drifting to the right, hitting the curb and then a fire hydrant, and then “rolled one time end over end and almost two more rotations sideways,” according to the sheriff’s office. The driver and his 13-yearold daughter, who was in the passenger seat, sustained minor injuries. “In this crash a witness reported following the driver nearly 3 miles. During that time the witness reported seeing the driver using his phone in his hand the entire way,” the sheriff’s office stated. The 42-year-old driver was cited for failing to stay in his lane. From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 9:57 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: OT saw a wreck yesterday Supervising the use of a large Vermeer Rock Wheel yesterday, heard a noise from the street, looked over and saw a minivan airborne. Rotating in all possible axes (axes is the proper plural of axis, I actually looked it up).Watching for people to come flying out of the vehicle, I was dialing 911 while trying to cross a very busy street. Van came to a rest on its side. A man and his daughter came climbing out the back window. Superficial scratches. Shaken up, but largely unharmed. They had mounted the curb and hit a fire hydrant. The hydrant came to rest half way from where it was originally and where the car came to rest. Quite a scene normally seen in movies. End over end, spinning and rolling. It must have been 6’ off the ground when I first saw it. I feared the worst. For a time I was an EMT when I was young. Glad to have had the training, did not like being an EMT. I would say seat belts saved them from certain critical injury and most likely death. Hope everyone always wears their seat belts. My wife is still with me due to wearing hers. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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On 8/30/19 1:34 PM, Craig Baird wrote: One of the common reasons I heard was "If you're in a rollover, you're better off being ejected." Ummm... no. I still hear that today. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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Did you see the video 2 days ago of a rhino flipping a car? https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/watch-rhino-attacks-zookeeper-s-car-germany-no-one-was-n1047221 I guess the zookeeper had his seat belt on. From: AF On Behalf Of Brandon Yuchasz Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 4:49 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday Yep that sounds more serious. Mine never knocked me that bad just got tight and sore sometimes locked up a little. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 4:35 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday I have lost weight. Did strength training. But when simply sitting down at a hotel conference room table makes me an invalid for a week I am anxious for a permanent cure. Happens at least once a year anymore. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2019, at 3:27 PM, Brandon Yuchasz mailto:li...@gogebicrange.net> > wrote: Chuck, I was recently listening to a podcast about back problems they brought up that lots of people are walking around with herniated disks but don’t always suffer symptoms. Not saying not to take it serious because you should but maybe with a grain of salt or two. I can tell you from personal experience that losing 10 pounds and changing my diet fixed my “weak” back. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 4:10 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday Had a foster daughter get ejected and died at the scene. Her BF was belted in. No injuries. She drove like a bat out of hell and never wore a belt unless she was rinding with me, and even then it was a psychological battle of the wills to enforcement. So it is a personal crusade of mine. In other news has my first MRI today. Was not expecting to get so hot. They gave me a disk of images. Looks like I have 3 herniated disks. Official news to come. I hear most radiology is done in India these days. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote: Saw that in the paper. Yeah, I remember the whole seat belt arguments. We will get trapped in a burning car. One of the best ones were that said they might need to bail out if the car was going over a cliff. I always look to see if fatal wrecks involve ejection, they frequently do. No way to take advantage of a century of auto safety improvements if you don’t stay inside the fricken car. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Craig Baird mailto:cr...@xpressweb.com> > wrote: Came across a similar thing last Sunday. Drove past a wreck where a pickup truck was upside-down about 100 feet off the highway. Later found out that there were three vehicles in a line. Second vehicle was a U-Haul. Last vehicle was this pickup. The pickup pulled out to pass. While it was along-side the U-Haul, the U-Haul pulled out to pass as well. Guessing the driver didn't check his mirror. The pickup veered off the road to avoid the U-Haul hitting it. Problem was the shoulder was about three feet wide, and then a 30 foot embankment. The pickup flipped a number of times and ended up on the roof. There were five people in the pickup. Two in front, and three in back. All three in the back seat were without seat belts. All three were ejected. Two were life-flighted and the third was killed. Front seat occupants were wearing seat belts and walked away with just bumps and scratches. Didn't even go to the hospital. It's odd that back when I was a kid, and they were talking about making a mandatory seat belt law, there were lots of people up in arms over it. One of the common reasons I heard was "If you're in a rollover, you're better off being ejected." Ummm... no. People who don't wear seat belts are either stupid or suicidal. Incidentally, they're still looking for the U-Haul driver, who didn't even stop. They're assuming he was unaware of what was going on to the side and behind him. In addition to wearing your seat belt, always be sure to check your mirror before you pull out to pass. Craig On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 11:55 AM dave via AF mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote: +100% On 8/30/19 11:56 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: I developed the habit when I was first learning to fly when I was 17 years old. I feel naked if I don’t click that seat belt. From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 10:51 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday Wow. My kids get on my case if I’m not wearing mine, so we’re good here, but man that is scary. From: AF <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.c
Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday
Yep that sounds more serious. Mine never knocked me that bad just got tight and sore sometimes locked up a little. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 4:35 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday I have lost weight. Did strength training. But when simply sitting down at a hotel conference room table makes me an invalid for a week I am anxious for a permanent cure. Happens at least once a year anymore. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2019, at 3:27 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote: Chuck, I was recently listening to a podcast about back problems they brought up that lots of people are walking around with herniated disks but don’t always suffer symptoms. Not saying not to take it serious because you should but maybe with a grain of salt or two. I can tell you from personal experience that losing 10 pounds and changing my diet fixed my “weak” back. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 4:10 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday Had a foster daughter get ejected and died at the scene. Her BF was belted in. No injuries. She drove like a bat out of hell and never wore a belt unless she was rinding with me, and even then it was a psychological battle of the wills to enforcement. So it is a personal crusade of mine. In other news has my first MRI today. Was not expecting to get so hot. They gave me a disk of images. Looks like I have 3 herniated disks. Official news to come. I hear most radiology is done in India these days. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Saw that in the paper. Yeah, I remember the whole seat belt arguments. We will get trapped in a burning car. One of the best ones were that said they might need to bail out if the car was going over a cliff. I always look to see if fatal wrecks involve ejection, they frequently do. No way to take advantage of a century of auto safety improvements if you don’t stay inside the fricken car. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Craig Baird wrote: Came across a similar thing last Sunday. Drove past a wreck where a pickup truck was upside-down about 100 feet off the highway. Later found out that there were three vehicles in a line. Second vehicle was a U-Haul. Last vehicle was this pickup. The pickup pulled out to pass. While it was along-side the U-Haul, the U-Haul pulled out to pass as well. Guessing the driver didn't check his mirror. The pickup veered off the road to avoid the U-Haul hitting it. Problem was the shoulder was about three feet wide, and then a 30 foot embankment. The pickup flipped a number of times and ended up on the roof. There were five people in the pickup. Two in front, and three in back. All three in the back seat were without seat belts. All three were ejected. Two were life-flighted and the third was killed. Front seat occupants were wearing seat belts and walked away with just bumps and scratches. Didn't even go to the hospital. It's odd that back when I was a kid, and they were talking about making a mandatory seat belt law, there were lots of people up in arms over it. One of the common reasons I heard was "If you're in a rollover, you're better off being ejected." Ummm... no. People who don't wear seat belts are either stupid or suicidal. Incidentally, they're still looking for the U-Haul driver, who didn't even stop. They're assuming he was unaware of what was going on to the side and behind him. In addition to wearing your seat belt, always be sure to check your mirror before you pull out to pass. Craig On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 11:55 AM dave via AF wrote: +100% On 8/30/19 11:56 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I developed the habit when I was first learning to fly when I was 17 years old. I feel naked if I don’t click that seat belt. From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 10:51 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday Wow. My kids get on my case if I’m not wearing mine, so we’re good here, but man that is scary. From: AF <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 9:58 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday Supervising the use of a large Vermeer Rock Wheel yesterday, heard a noise from the street, looked over and saw a minivan airborne. Rotating in all possible axes (axes is the proper plural of axis, I actually looked it up).Watching for people to come flying out of the vehicle, I was dialing 911 while trying to cross a very busy street. Van came to a rest on its side. A man and his daughter came climbing out the back window. Superficial scrat
Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday
I have lost weight. Did strength training. But when simply sitting down at a hotel conference room table makes me an invalid for a week I am anxious for a permanent cure. Happens at least once a year anymore. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 30, 2019, at 3:27 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote: > > Chuck, > I was recently listening to a podcast about back problems they brought up > that lots of people are walking around with herniated disks but don’t always > suffer symptoms. > Not saying not to take it serious because you should but maybe with a grain > of salt or two. > I can tell you from personal experience that losing 10 pounds and changing my > diet fixed my “weak” back. > > > From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 4:10 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday > > Had a foster daughter get ejected and died at the scene. Her BF was belted > in. No injuries. She drove like a bat out of hell and never wore a belt > unless she was rinding with me, and even then it was a psychological battle > of the wills to enforcement. So it is a personal crusade of mine. > > In other news has my first MRI today. Was not expecting to get so hot. They > gave me a disk of images. Looks like I have 3 herniated disks. Official > news to come. I hear most radiology is done in India these days. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 30, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > Saw that in the paper. Yeah, I remember the whole seat belt arguments. We > will get trapped in a burning car. One of the best ones were that said they > might need to bail out if the car was going over a cliff. I always look to > see if fatal wrecks involve ejection, they frequently do. No way to take > advantage of a century of auto safety improvements if you don’t stay inside > the fricken car. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 30, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Craig Baird wrote: > > Came across a similar thing last Sunday. Drove past a wreck where a pickup > truck was upside-down about 100 feet off the highway. Later found out that > there were three vehicles in a line. Second vehicle was a U-Haul. Last > vehicle was this pickup. The pickup pulled out to pass. While it was > along-side the U-Haul, the U-Haul pulled out to pass as well. Guessing the > driver didn't check his mirror. The pickup veered off the road to avoid the > U-Haul hitting it. Problem was the shoulder was about three feet wide, and > then a 30 foot embankment. The pickup flipped a number of times and ended up > on the roof. There were five people in the pickup. Two in front, and three > in back. All three in the back seat were without seat belts. All three were > ejected. Two were life-flighted and the third was killed. Front seat > occupants were wearing seat belts and walked away with just bumps and > scratches. Didn't even go to the hospital. It's odd that back when I was a > kid, and they were talking about making a mandatory seat belt law, there were > lots of people up in arms over it. One of the common reasons I heard was "If > you're in a rollover, you're better off being ejected." Ummm... no. > > People who don't wear seat belts are either stupid or suicidal. > > Incidentally, they're still looking for the U-Haul driver, who didn't even > stop. They're assuming he was unaware of what was going on to the side and > behind him. In addition to wearing your seat belt, always be sure to check > your mirror before you pull out to pass. > > Craig > > > On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 11:55 AM dave via AF wrote: > +100% > > > On 8/30/19 11:56 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > I developed the habit when I was first learning to fly when I was 17 years > old. > I feel naked if I don’t click that seat belt. > > From: Sterling Jacobson > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 10:51 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday > > Wow. > > My kids get on my case if I’m not wearing mine, so we’re good here, but man > that is scary. > > From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 9:58 AM > To: af@af.afmug.com > Subject: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday > > Supervising the use of a large Vermeer Rock Wheel yesterday, heard a noise > from the street, looked over and saw a minivan airborne. Rotating in all > possible axes (axes is the proper plural of axis, I actually looked it up). > Watching for people to come flying out of the vehicle, I was dialing 911 > while trying to cross a very busy street. Van came to a rest on its side
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Chuck, I was recently listening to a podcast about back problems they brought up that lots of people are walking around with herniated disks but don’t always suffer symptoms. Not saying not to take it serious because you should but maybe with a grain of salt or two. I can tell you from personal experience that losing 10 pounds and changing my diet fixed my “weak” back. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 4:10 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday Had a foster daughter get ejected and died at the scene. Her BF was belted in. No injuries. She drove like a bat out of hell and never wore a belt unless she was rinding with me, and even then it was a psychological battle of the wills to enforcement. So it is a personal crusade of mine. In other news has my first MRI today. Was not expecting to get so hot. They gave me a disk of images. Looks like I have 3 herniated disks. Official news to come. I hear most radiology is done in India these days. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Saw that in the paper. Yeah, I remember the whole seat belt arguments. We will get trapped in a burning car. One of the best ones were that said they might need to bail out if the car was going over a cliff. I always look to see if fatal wrecks involve ejection, they frequently do. No way to take advantage of a century of auto safety improvements if you don’t stay inside the fricken car. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Craig Baird wrote: Came across a similar thing last Sunday. Drove past a wreck where a pickup truck was upside-down about 100 feet off the highway. Later found out that there were three vehicles in a line. Second vehicle was a U-Haul. Last vehicle was this pickup. The pickup pulled out to pass. While it was along-side the U-Haul, the U-Haul pulled out to pass as well. Guessing the driver didn't check his mirror. The pickup veered off the road to avoid the U-Haul hitting it. Problem was the shoulder was about three feet wide, and then a 30 foot embankment. The pickup flipped a number of times and ended up on the roof. There were five people in the pickup. Two in front, and three in back. All three in the back seat were without seat belts. All three were ejected. Two were life-flighted and the third was killed. Front seat occupants were wearing seat belts and walked away with just bumps and scratches. Didn't even go to the hospital. It's odd that back when I was a kid, and they were talking about making a mandatory seat belt law, there were lots of people up in arms over it. One of the common reasons I heard was "If you're in a rollover, you're better off being ejected." Ummm... no. People who don't wear seat belts are either stupid or suicidal. Incidentally, they're still looking for the U-Haul driver, who didn't even stop. They're assuming he was unaware of what was going on to the side and behind him. In addition to wearing your seat belt, always be sure to check your mirror before you pull out to pass. Craig On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 11:55 AM dave via AF wrote: +100% On 8/30/19 11:56 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I developed the habit when I was first learning to fly when I was 17 years old. I feel naked if I don’t click that seat belt. From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 10:51 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday Wow. My kids get on my case if I’m not wearing mine, so we’re good here, but man that is scary. From: AF <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 9:58 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday Supervising the use of a large Vermeer Rock Wheel yesterday, heard a noise from the street, looked over and saw a minivan airborne. Rotating in all possible axes (axes is the proper plural of axis, I actually looked it up).Watching for people to come flying out of the vehicle, I was dialing 911 while trying to cross a very busy street. Van came to a rest on its side. A man and his daughter came climbing out the back window. Superficial scratches. Shaken up, but largely unharmed. They had mounted the curb and hit a fire hydrant. The hydrant came to rest half way from where it was originally and where the car came to rest. Quite a scene normally seen in movies. End over end, spinning and rolling. It must have been 6’ off the ground when I first saw it. I feared the worst. For a time I was an EMT when I was young. Glad to have had the training, did not like being an EMT. I would say seat belts saved them from certain critical injury and most likely death. Hope everyone always wears their seat belts. My wife
Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday
Had a foster daughter get ejected and died at the scene. Her BF was belted in. No injuries. She drove like a bat out of hell and never wore a belt unless she was rinding with me, and even then it was a psychological battle of the wills to enforcement. So it is a personal crusade of mine. In other news has my first MRI today. Was not expecting to get so hot. They gave me a disk of images. Looks like I have 3 herniated disks. Official news to come. I hear most radiology is done in India these days. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 30, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > Saw that in the paper. Yeah, I remember the whole seat belt arguments. We > will get trapped in a burning car. One of the best ones were that said they > might need to bail out if the car was going over a cliff. I always look to > see if fatal wrecks involve ejection, they frequently do. No way to take > advantage of a century of auto safety improvements if you don’t stay inside > the fricken car. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 30, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Craig Baird wrote: >> >> Came across a similar thing last Sunday. Drove past a wreck where a pickup >> truck was upside-down about 100 feet off the highway. Later found out that >> there were three vehicles in a line. Second vehicle was a U-Haul. Last >> vehicle was this pickup. The pickup pulled out to pass. While it was >> along-side the U-Haul, the U-Haul pulled out to pass as well. Guessing the >> driver didn't check his mirror. The pickup veered off the road to avoid the >> U-Haul hitting it. Problem was the shoulder was about three feet wide, and >> then a 30 foot embankment. The pickup flipped a number of times and ended >> up on the roof. There were five people in the pickup. Two in front, and >> three in back. All three in the back seat were without seat belts. All >> three were ejected. Two were life-flighted and the third was killed. Front >> seat occupants were wearing seat belts and walked away with just bumps and >> scratches. Didn't even go to the hospital. It's odd that back when I was a >> kid, and they were talking about making a mandatory seat belt law, there >> were lots of people up in arms over it. One of the common reasons I heard >> was "If you're in a rollover, you're better off being ejected." Ummm... no. >> >> People who don't wear seat belts are either stupid or suicidal. >> >> Incidentally, they're still looking for the U-Haul driver, who didn't even >> stop. They're assuming he was unaware of what was going on to the side and >> behind him. In addition to wearing your seat belt, always be sure to check >> your mirror before you pull out to pass. >> >> Craig >> >> >>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 11:55 AM dave via AF wrote: >>> +100% >>> >>> >>>> On 8/30/19 11:56 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >>>> I developed the habit when I was first learning to fly when I was 17 years >>>> old. >>>> I feel naked if I don’t click that seat belt. >>>> >>>> From: Sterling Jacobson >>>> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 10:51 AM >>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday >>>> >>>> Wow. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> My kids get on my case if I’m not wearing mine, so we’re good here, but >>>> man that is scary. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com >>>> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 9:58 AM >>>> To: af@af.afmug.com >>>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Supervising the use of a large Vermeer Rock Wheel yesterday, heard a noise >>>> from the street, looked over and saw a minivan >>>> airborne. Rotating in all possible axes (axes is the proper plural of >>>> axis, I actually looked it up).Watching for people to come flying out >>>> of the vehicle, I was dialing 911 while trying to cross a very busy >>>> street. Van came to a rest on its side. A man and his daughter came >>>> climbing out the back window. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Superficial scratches. Shaken up, but largely unharmed. They had mounted >>>> the curb and hit a fire hydrant. The hydrant came to rest half way from >>>> where it was originally and where the car came to rest. >>>>
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Saw that in the paper. Yeah, I remember the whole seat belt arguments. We will get trapped in a burning car. One of the best ones were that said they might need to bail out if the car was going over a cliff. I always look to see if fatal wrecks involve ejection, they frequently do. No way to take advantage of a century of auto safety improvements if you don’t stay inside the fricken car. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 30, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Craig Baird wrote: > > Came across a similar thing last Sunday. Drove past a wreck where a pickup > truck was upside-down about 100 feet off the highway. Later found out that > there were three vehicles in a line. Second vehicle was a U-Haul. Last > vehicle was this pickup. The pickup pulled out to pass. While it was > along-side the U-Haul, the U-Haul pulled out to pass as well. Guessing the > driver didn't check his mirror. The pickup veered off the road to avoid the > U-Haul hitting it. Problem was the shoulder was about three feet wide, and > then a 30 foot embankment. The pickup flipped a number of times and ended up > on the roof. There were five people in the pickup. Two in front, and three > in back. All three in the back seat were without seat belts. All three were > ejected. Two were life-flighted and the third was killed. Front seat > occupants were wearing seat belts and walked away with just bumps and > scratches. Didn't even go to the hospital. It's odd that back when I was a > kid, and they were talking about making a mandatory seat belt law, there were > lots of people up in arms over it. One of the common reasons I heard was "If > you're in a rollover, you're better off being ejected." Ummm... no. > > People who don't wear seat belts are either stupid or suicidal. > > Incidentally, they're still looking for the U-Haul driver, who didn't even > stop. They're assuming he was unaware of what was going on to the side and > behind him. In addition to wearing your seat belt, always be sure to check > your mirror before you pull out to pass. > > Craig > > >> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 11:55 AM dave via AF wrote: >> +100% >> >> >> On 8/30/19 11:56 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >>> I developed the habit when I was first learning to fly when I was 17 years >>> old. >>> I feel naked if I don’t click that seat belt. >>> >>> From: Sterling Jacobson >>> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 10:51 AM >>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday >>> >>> Wow. >>> >>> >>> >>> My kids get on my case if I’m not wearing mine, so we’re good here, but man >>> that is scary. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com >>> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 9:58 AM >>> To: af@af.afmug.com >>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday >>> >>> >>> >>> Supervising the use of a large Vermeer Rock Wheel yesterday, heard a noise >>> from the street, looked over and saw a minivan airborne. Rotating in all >>> possible axes (axes is the proper plural of axis, I actually looked it up). >>>Watching for people to come flying out of the vehicle, I was dialing 911 >>> while trying to cross a very busy street. Van came to a rest on its side. >>> A man and his daughter came climbing out the back window. >>> >>> >>> >>> Superficial scratches. Shaken up, but largely unharmed. They had mounted >>> the curb and hit a fire hydrant. The hydrant came to rest half way from >>> where it was originally and where the car came to rest. >>> >>> >>> >>> Quite a scene normally seen in movies. End over end, spinning and rolling. >>> It must have been 6’ off the ground when I first saw it. >>> >>> I feared the worst. For a time I was an EMT when I was young. Glad to >>> have had the training, did not like being an EMT. >>> >>> >>> >>> I would say seat belts saved them from certain critical injury and most >>> likely death. >>> >>> >>> >>> Hope everyone always wears their seat belts. >>> >>> My wife is still with me due to wearing hers. >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday
Came across a similar thing last Sunday. Drove past a wreck where a pickup truck was upside-down about 100 feet off the highway. Later found out that there were three vehicles in a line. Second vehicle was a U-Haul. Last vehicle was this pickup. The pickup pulled out to pass. While it was along-side the U-Haul, the U-Haul pulled out to pass as well. Guessing the driver didn't check his mirror. The pickup veered off the road to avoid the U-Haul hitting it. Problem was the shoulder was about three feet wide, and then a 30 foot embankment. The pickup flipped a number of times and ended up on the roof. There were five people in the pickup. Two in front, and three in back. All three in the back seat were without seat belts. All three were ejected. Two were life-flighted and the third was killed. Front seat occupants were wearing seat belts and walked away with just bumps and scratches. Didn't even go to the hospital. It's odd that back when I was a kid, and they were talking about making a mandatory seat belt law, there were lots of people up in arms over it. One of the common reasons I heard was "If you're in a rollover, you're better off being ejected." Ummm... no. People who don't wear seat belts are either stupid or suicidal. Incidentally, they're still looking for the U-Haul driver, who didn't even stop. They're assuming he was unaware of what was going on to the side and behind him. In addition to wearing your seat belt, always be sure to check your mirror before you pull out to pass. Craig On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 11:55 AM dave via AF wrote: > +100% > > > On 8/30/19 11:56 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > I developed the habit when I was first learning to fly when I was 17 years > old. > I feel naked if I don’t click that seat belt. > > *From:* Sterling Jacobson > *Sent:* Friday, August 30, 2019 10:51 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday > > > Wow. > > > > My kids get on my case if I’m not wearing mine, so we’re good here, but > man that is scary. > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf > Of *ch...@wbmfg.com > *Sent:* Friday, August 30, 2019 9:58 AM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday > > > > Supervising the use of a large Vermeer Rock Wheel yesterday, heard a noise > from the street, looked over and saw a minivan airborne. Rotating in all > possible axes (axes is the proper plural of axis, I actually looked it > up).Watching for people to come flying out of the vehicle, I was > dialing 911 while trying to cross a very busy street. Van came to a rest > on its side. A man and his daughter came climbing out the back window. > > > > Superficial scratches. Shaken up, but largely unharmed. They had mounted > the curb and hit a fire hydrant. The hydrant came to rest half way from > where it was originally and where the car came to rest. > > > > Quite a scene normally seen in movies. End over end, spinning and > rolling. It must have been 6’ off the ground when I first saw it. > > I feared the worst. For a time I was an EMT when I was young. Glad to > have had the training, did not like being an EMT. > > > > I would say seat belts saved them from certain critical injury and most > likely death. > > > > Hope everyone always wears their seat belts. > > My wife is still with me due to wearing hers. > > -- > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday
+100% On 8/30/19 11:56 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I developed the habit when I was first learning to fly when I was 17 years old. I feel naked if I don’t click that seat belt. *From:* Sterling Jacobson *Sent:* Friday, August 30, 2019 10:51 AM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday Wow. My kids get on my case if I’m not wearing mine, so we’re good here, but man that is scary. *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com *Sent:* Friday, August 30, 2019 9:58 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday Supervising the use of a large Vermeer Rock Wheel yesterday, heard a noise from the street, looked over and saw a minivan airborne. Rotating in all possible axes (axes is the proper plural of axis, I actually looked it up). Watching for people to come flying out of the vehicle, I was dialing 911 while trying to cross a very busy street. Van came to a rest on its side. A man and his daughter came climbing out the back window. Superficial scratches. Shaken up, but largely unharmed. They had mounted the curb and hit a fire hydrant. The hydrant came to rest half way from where it was originally and where the car came to rest. Quite a scene normally seen in movies. End over end, spinning and rolling. It must have been 6’ off the ground when I first saw it. I feared the worst. For a time I was an EMT when I was young. Glad to have had the training, did not like being an EMT. I would say seat belts saved them from certain critical injury and most likely death. Hope everyone always wears their seat belts. My wife is still with me due to wearing hers. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday
I developed the habit when I was first learning to fly when I was 17 years old. I feel naked if I don’t click that seat belt. From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 10:51 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday Wow. My kids get on my case if I’m not wearing mine, so we’re good here, but man that is scary. From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 9:58 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday Supervising the use of a large Vermeer Rock Wheel yesterday, heard a noise from the street, looked over and saw a minivan airborne. Rotating in all possible axes (axes is the proper plural of axis, I actually looked it up).Watching for people to come flying out of the vehicle, I was dialing 911 while trying to cross a very busy street. Van came to a rest on its side. A man and his daughter came climbing out the back window. Superficial scratches. Shaken up, but largely unharmed. They had mounted the curb and hit a fire hydrant. The hydrant came to rest half way from where it was originally and where the car came to rest. Quite a scene normally seen in movies. End over end, spinning and rolling. It must have been 6’ off the ground when I first saw it. I feared the worst. For a time I was an EMT when I was young. Glad to have had the training, did not like being an EMT. I would say seat belts saved them from certain critical injury and most likely death. Hope everyone always wears their seat belts. My wife is still with me due to wearing hers. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday
Wow. My kids get on my case if I’m not wearing mine, so we’re good here, but man that is scary. From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 9:58 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT saw a wreck yesterday Supervising the use of a large Vermeer Rock Wheel yesterday, heard a noise from the street, looked over and saw a minivan airborne. Rotating in all possible axes (axes is the proper plural of axis, I actually looked it up).Watching for people to come flying out of the vehicle, I was dialing 911 while trying to cross a very busy street. Van came to a rest on its side. A man and his daughter came climbing out the back window. Superficial scratches. Shaken up, but largely unharmed. They had mounted the curb and hit a fire hydrant. The hydrant came to rest half way from where it was originally and where the car came to rest. Quite a scene normally seen in movies. End over end, spinning and rolling. It must have been 6’ off the ground when I first saw it. I feared the worst. For a time I was an EMT when I was young. Glad to have had the training, did not like being an EMT. I would say seat belts saved them from certain critical injury and most likely death. Hope everyone always wears their seat belts. My wife is still with me due to wearing hers. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
