Re: [AFMUG] Good tower for 100'

2018-05-15 Thread TJ Trout
So what's the cliff notes on the 3 least expensive 100ft self supporters? - Texas Towers Model ? - Trylon "Titan" 96ft - ?? - ?? On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 7:51 AM, Justin Wilson wrote: > http://www.mtin.net/blog/towers-and-pricing/ > > A blog article I did awhile

Re: [AFMUG] Flat Drop Aerial

2018-05-15 Thread Erich Kaiser
I agree, there is no limit on number of spans, but the distance in the span could be an issue. We have been using 12 strand Corning SST Drop cable for runs, its cheap and very strong. On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 8:59 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I have run many spans of stuff

Re: [AFMUG] Flat Drop Aerial

2018-05-15 Thread Adam Moffett
I haven't yet seen a limit on number of spans, but I wasn't looking for it either. With most flat drop in a heavy ice zone I do have a span length limit too low for country roads where poles are 400-500 feet apart. I'm needing to use stuff with steel strength members. -- Original

Re: [AFMUG] Problems with Packetflux Powerinjector

2018-05-15 Thread Josh Luthman
Reason I ask is if at the bottom I believe it's 24v and the top it's 24v. I'm using that heavy duty coax (inch and a half?) up the tower for my DC. I think the center conductor was 8mm. If you're doing say 27.4v at the bottom and 100' of two pair 24 gauge, it's more like 26.83v at the top. I'm

Re: [AFMUG] Good tower for 100'

2018-05-15 Thread Adam Moffett
The load limits on "least expensive" are pretty crippling. Two dishes and that Texas Tower model from the link is fully loaded. Same with a Trylon Titan if you're getting the least expensive model. I'd consider what you need to put on it first, then cost second. -- Original Message

Re: [AFMUG] Good tower for 100'

2018-05-15 Thread Mike Hammett
https://www.tessco.com/selector/tower/index.jsp - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Adam Moffett" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 9:08:02 AM

Re: [AFMUG] Problems with Packetflux Powerinjector

2018-05-15 Thread Josh Luthman
Sweet! I'll crank up the power supply another volt. IIRC Ubnt stuff dies at 26 or 27 volts, so you can see why I aimed for right at 24v. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 9:21 AM, Josh Baird

Re: [AFMUG] Problems with Packetflux Powerinjector

2018-05-15 Thread Mathew Howard
27.4v is at the power supply, so where there's 100' or so of cable, voltage is going to be quite a bit lower at the radio, but we have some sites where there's only a few feet of cable and it works fine. On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 9:54 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Ahh

Re: [AFMUG] Problems with Packetflux Powerinjector

2018-05-15 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
The UBNT stuff used to be a lot more sensitive than it is. Anything modern should be fine up to 28V on the 24V radios. On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 7:34 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Sweet! I'll crank up the power supply another volt. IIRC Ubnt stuff dies > at 26 or 27

[AFMUG] KP Performance KPPA-900DPY14

2018-05-15 Thread David Sovereen
Hi All, I’m looking for vendors that have these in stock. My usual supplier drop ships from KP and KP is out of stock. Vendors stocking these (or WISPs who have extra that they don’t want or need) are welcome to contact me off-list. Thanks, David Sovereen Mercury Network Corporation 2719

Re: [AFMUG] 24Ghz distance

2018-05-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Probably not much different than any other 5 GHz radio on the same size antenna? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Dave" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, May 14,

Re: [AFMUG] Problems with Packetflux Powerinjector

2018-05-15 Thread Josh Luthman
Ahh maybe I'm thinking up to 27 works then. Do you get 27.4 up to the radio or is this right before say 100' up the tower? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 10:39 AM, Mathew Howard

Re: [AFMUG] Flat Drop Aerial

2018-05-15 Thread Jason McKemie
What hardware are you using to hang it? On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 8:56 AM, Erich Kaiser wrote: > I agree, there is no limit on number of spans, but the distance in the > span could be an issue. We have been using 12 strand Corning SST Drop > cable for runs, its cheap

Re: [AFMUG] Problems with Packetflux Powerinjector

2018-05-15 Thread Mathew Howard
UBNT stuff will take at least 28 volts without any problem. I run pretty much everything at around 27.4v, and I've never run into any problems with any ubnt stuff. On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 8:34 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Sweet! I'll crank up the power supply another

[AFMUG] OT NOC server choice

2018-05-15 Thread chuck
I need a pair of servers, prefer DC powered but not absolutely stuck on that. Like to have nice blade server system with hot standby etc. Been some time since I spec’d out servers. Any suggestions?

Re: [AFMUG] Problems with Packetflux Powerinjector

2018-05-15 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
You don't lose any voltage until the radios start drawing power, so it generally isn't 100% safe to boost it beyond what the radios are rated for. I'd set the voltage at the bottom to the absolute maximum you know the radios are fine with. Then it can only go down from there. On Tue, May 15,

Re: [AFMUG] Custom CNUT - snmp tools for mass changes?

2018-05-15 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Got any documentation on it? From: Af > on behalf of Chuck McCown > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" > Date: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 12:10 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] Problems with Packetflux Powerinjector

2018-05-15 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
One other option is to put 48VDC in at the bottom of the coax, and then use a DC-DC converter at the top for those things which need 24V. I'm particularly fond of the meanwell rsd series, specifically the meanwell RSD-150C-24 should do just fine. Assuming you don't have more than 150W of radios

Re: [AFMUG] Custom CNUT - snmp tools for mass changes?

2018-05-15 Thread chuck
Many years ago, did it all the time. From: Gino A. Villarini Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 10:00 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Custom CNUT - snmp tools for mass changes? Anyone has experience doing mass changes in CNUT? Gino A. Villarini President Metro

Re: [AFMUG] Custom CNUT - snmp tools for mass changes?

2018-05-15 Thread George Skorup
Y u no cnMaestro, bro? Unless you're talking FSK, then.. yeah. On 5/15/2018 12:01 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: Got any documentation on it? From: Af > on behalf of Chuck McCown > Reply-To:

Re: [AFMUG] Custom CNUT - snmp tools for mass changes?

2018-05-15 Thread Gino A. Villarini
That the point, I want to mass update all Apps with the cN Maestro url and also need to ad ip dns From: Af > on behalf of George Skorup > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com"

Re: [AFMUG] Custom CNUT - snmp tools for mass changes?

2018-05-15 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Is not set :-( From: Af > on behalf of George Skorup > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" > Date: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 1:26 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] Problems with Packetflux Powerinjector

2018-05-15 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, older Mikrotiks are the only thing that I can remember ever running into problems with at that voltage... but as you said, they belong in the round filing cabinet anyway. On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 11:27 AM, George Skorup wrote: > I set the no-load float voltage at

Re: [AFMUG] Problems with Packetflux Powerinjector

2018-05-15 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, in that case you're not going to have much drop. The only reason I shoot for 27.4v is to match the float voltage on batteries - if you don't have to deal with that, just set it to 26v, or so and you won't need to worry about anything. On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Josh Luthman

[AFMUG] Custom CNUT - snmp tools for mass changes?

2018-05-15 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Anyone has experience doing mass changes in CNUT? Gino A. Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 [cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

Re: [AFMUG] Problems with Packetflux Powerinjector

2018-05-15 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
One other option is to put 48VDC in at the bottom of the coax, and then use a DC-DC converter at the top. I'm particularly fond of the meanwell rsd series, specifically the meanwell RSD-150C-24 should do just fine. Assuming you don't have more than 150W of radios up top. If you need less/more

Re: [AFMUG] KP Performance KPPA-900DPY14

2018-05-15 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Hey David! Glad to see you posting … Hope all is well! From: Af > on behalf of "david.sover...@mercury.net" > Reply-To:

Re: [AFMUG] Custom CNUT - snmp tools for mass changes?

2018-05-15 Thread George Skorup
If SNMP write is enabled, snmpset script? On 5/15/2018 12:15 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: That the point, I want to mass update all Apps with the cN Maestro url and also need to ad ip dns From: Af > on behalf of George Skorup

Re: [AFMUG] Flat Drop Aerial

2018-05-15 Thread Erich Kaiser
Depends on scenario/ pole material but mostly P Clamps and Drop clamps http://www.linemen-tools.com/category_s/584.htm On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 10:26 AM, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > What hardware are you using to hang it? > > On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 8:56 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] KP Performance KPPA-900DPY14

2018-05-15 Thread Jerry Head
We just order the 17s and use the back half of itthen ride back out later to put up the other half because...900. On 5/15/2018 10:23 AM, David Sovereen wrote: Hi All, I’m looking for vendors that have these in stock.  My usual supplier drop ships from KP and KP is out of stock. Vendors

Re: [AFMUG] KP Performance KPPA-900DPY14

2018-05-15 Thread George Skorup
Yup. 14 to 17 is just double the boom length. On 5/15/2018 1:05 PM, David Sovereen wrote: Are you saying the 17 is just a 14 with an additional piece? *David Sovereen* ** Mercury Network Corporation 2719 Ashman Street, Midland, MI 48640 989.837.3790 x151 office | 888.866.4638 toll free |

Re: [AFMUG] OT NOC server choice

2018-05-15 Thread Josh Luthman
Servers for what? Blades are kind of a thing of the past, I think. It's way easier and cheaper to do something like HA with ESXi. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 2:03 PM, wrote: > I need

Re: [AFMUG] Any Aviat Eclipse experts near Midland, Texas area?

2018-05-15 Thread Colin Stanners
How high is high? Could it be some type of QoS setting? One possible option would be to note settings/licenses and then do a reset to defaults of the radios. On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 2:40 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Email me off liststrange issue..no dropped

Re: [AFMUG] OT NOC server choice

2018-05-15 Thread Dennis Burgess
We can quote you some nice 1U servers with ESXI on them and a small SAN. That would have redundancy in the event of a server failure, SAN failures are more costly, but they (typically) are designed for failures. From: Af On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, May

Re: [AFMUG] Attaching pole to Chimney

2018-05-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
Ronard makes chimney mounts ..copy idea Jaime Solorza On Tue, May 15, 2018, 2:18 PM wrote: > Most chimneys have a large central hole that you can stick a large pipe > down... > > *From:* Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 15, 2018 2:08 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Custom CNUT - snmp tools for mass changes?

2018-05-15 Thread Mathew Howard
Can you make changes with CNUT without SNMP write enabled? On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 12:57 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: > Is not set :-( > > From: Af on behalf of George Skorup < > george.sko...@cbcast.com> > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" >

Re: [AFMUG] Problems with Packetflux Powerinjector

2018-05-15 Thread Josh Luthman
It's just weird it has no problems with 8 radios for 2 years and then in the last 6 months it starts acting up with only half that many. I was thinking more like go from 24 to 25-26 volts. That extra volt or two might solve all my problems and be a minor change to anything. Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] Attaching pole to Chimney

2018-05-15 Thread Jason McKemie
It's just a wood box covered in vinyl. On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > The chimney has vinyl? I assume it's brick behind it? > > If you have to get it from the local hardware store, go there and see what > all can work. I'd probably look for

Re: [AFMUG] Problems with Packetflux Powerinjector

2018-05-15 Thread Dave
Temperatures in both radio and power source which can be adversely swayed by external temperatures On 05/02/2018 11:22 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: There is - here are the counters: https://imgur.com/a/FdVP9IF Note that bb5/6/7 have been losing power frequently too. If the voltage is too low, why

[AFMUG] Attaching pole to Chimney

2018-05-15 Thread Jason McKemie
Anyone have any advice as to what hardware I can use to attach a 6' section of 1.5" emt to a chimney? It's the vinyl siding covered type. I was thinking of just drilling it and running lags straight through, but a bracket of some type, possibly utilizing pipe clamps, would be preferred. I'll need

[AFMUG] Any Aviat Eclipse experts near Midland, Texas area?

2018-05-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
Email me off liststrange issue..no dropped packets, no BER alarms, rsl difference from install readings but latency is high even though stats says 176.5 from possible 177mbps possible.. Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Attaching pole to Chimney

2018-05-15 Thread Josh Luthman
The chimney has vinyl? I assume it's brick behind it? If you have to get it from the local hardware store, go there and see what all can work. I'd probably look for the best tool rather than limit myself to that one store, though. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100

Re: [AFMUG] OT NOC server choice

2018-05-15 Thread chuck
Thus the question. 10 years ago blade servers were all the rage. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 2:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT NOC server choice Servers for what? Blades are kind of a thing of the past, I think. It's way easier and cheaper to do

Re: [AFMUG] Attaching pole to Chimney

2018-05-15 Thread chuck
Most chimneys have a large central hole that you can stick a large pipe down... From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 2:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Attaching pole to Chimney The chimney has vinyl? I assume it's brick behind it? If you have to get it from the local

Re: [AFMUG] OT NOC server choice

2018-05-15 Thread Dennis Burgess
BTW, I have a bunch of 1855 blade centers sitting, quad power supplies, dual switches, 10 blades most have dual dual core Xeons around 2.0 – 2.4 ghz. 10 blades each. I can sell you for a song! From: Af On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 3:18 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] OT NOC server choice

2018-05-15 Thread chuck
I am singing... BTW you would probably be the guy that would end up maintaining them... From: Dennis Burgess Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 2:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT NOC server choice BTW, I have a bunch of 1855 blade centers sitting, quad power supplies, dual switches,

Re: [AFMUG] Problems with Packetflux Powerinjector

2018-05-15 Thread George Skorup
I set the no-load float voltage at 27.6 for the AD-155B's. Got some older RocketM's on 40-80 feet of cable and they've been fine. The only real issue I've had is gear at the bottom not liking the higher voltage. Mostly older RB493's, which I replaced and threw in the round filing cabinet.

Re: [AFMUG] KP Performance KPPA-900DPY14

2018-05-15 Thread David Sovereen
Are you saying the 17 is just a 14 with an additional piece? David Sovereen Mercury Network Corporation 2719 Ashman Street, Midland, MI 48640 989.837.3790 x151 office | 888.866.4638 toll free | 989.837.3780 fax Telephone | Internet | Security Alarm Monitoring david.sover...@mercury.net

Re: [AFMUG] Attaching pole to Chimney

2018-05-15 Thread chuck
Stick a piece of PVC down the chimney and use spray foam to hold it in place. From: Jason McKemie Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 5:28 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Attaching pole to Chimney Do the unistrut conduit clamps hold the conduit tightly enough to mount it vertically? I

Re: [AFMUG] Attaching pole to Chimney

2018-05-15 Thread TJ Trout
Yes, we use unistrut for various tower mounts (home made) they defiantly can hold a mast with plenty of strength On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 5:04 PM, wrote: > Stick a piece of PVC down the chimney and use spray foam to hold it in > place. > > *From:* Jason McKemie > *Sent:*

Re: [AFMUG] Attaching pole to Chimney

2018-05-15 Thread Jason McKemie
I'll give that a whirl, thanks everyone. Backup plan will be Chuck's PVC/spray foam idea. On Tuesday, May 15, 2018, TJ Trout wrote: > Yes, we use unistrut for various tower mounts (home made) they defiantly > can hold a mast with plenty of strength > > On Tue, May 15, 2018 at

Re: [AFMUG] Attaching pole to Chimney

2018-05-15 Thread Jason McKemie
Do the unistrut conduit clamps hold the conduit tightly enough to mount it vertically? I thought they were intended for horizontal runs. On Tuesday, May 15, 2018, Sam Lambie wrote: > Unistrut, clamps and EMT. Done > > On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 2:46 PM, Jason McKemie < >

Re: [AFMUG] OT NOC server choice

2018-05-15 Thread Josh Luthman
>BTW you would probably be the guy that would end up maintaining them... Suddenly Dennis stopped offering them. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 4:51 PM, wrote: > I am singing... > > BTW

Re: [AFMUG] Attaching pole to Chimney

2018-05-15 Thread Sam Lambie
Unistrut, clamps and EMT. Done On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 2:46 PM, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > It's just a wood box covered in vinyl. > > On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Josh Luthman > wrote: > >> The chimney has vinyl? I assume it's

Re: [AFMUG] OT NOC server choice

2018-05-15 Thread Dennis Burgess
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