Re: [AFMUG] reselling SIP

2016-10-13 Thread Ken Hohhof
for not filing some paperwork. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 11:38 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] reselling SIP For a non-facilities based provider? IANAL either, but that doesn't sound right I don&#x

Re: [AFMUG] reselling SIP

2016-10-13 Thread Josh Reynolds
e surprise, you still have > to pay some fees like TRS and NANP. > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2016 11:16 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] reselling SIP > > > > Something

Re: [AFMUG] reselling SIP

2016-10-13 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
d possibly outage reporting, plus surprise surprise, you still have >> to pay some fees like TRS and NANP. >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett >> *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2016 11:16 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >

Re: [AFMUG] reselling SIP

2016-10-13 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
orting, plus surprise surprise, you still have > to pay some fees like TRS and NANP. > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2016 11:16 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] reselling SIP > > &g

Re: [AFMUG] reselling SIP

2016-10-13 Thread Ken Hohhof
To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] reselling SIP Something like that. IANAL either, but I think there are still lots of people flying under the radar on this issue. If the underlying carrier is doing the taxes and USF and such then there might not be any red flag there where somebody

Re: [AFMUG] reselling SIP

2016-10-13 Thread Adam Moffett
t done rightThere must be a level of volume where the legal and accounting expense is covered by the USF fees you would have to collect. -- Original Message -- From: "Ken Hohhof" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 10/13/2016 11:41:42 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] reselling SIP IANAL,

Re: [AFMUG] reselling SIP

2016-10-13 Thread Ken Hohhof
IANAL, but I believe the deciding factor is who bills the customer for the voice services. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 10:29 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] reselling SIP We resell some SIP trunks with

[AFMUG] reselling SIP

2016-10-13 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
We resell some SIP trunks with PBX we install on our contract services side. We are not the SIP provider in any way, but we do get paid. if its traversing our ISP network does that technically make us a voice provider, or are we still able to hide out as an ISP -- If you only see yourself as part