Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic...
You pick 10 MHz of the spectrum. Put it in 3 or 4 sectors on the tower. You now have 40 MHz left. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: From what I understand, frequency re-use is an option. On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: So if we only have 50mhz (today) in the 3.65ghz band how can we fully utilize the Telrad Base stations to maximum throughput if you have more than 1 base station on a tower? Sounds like I would have to be running multiple 20mhz channels with this product to get these crazy high throughput numbers but it looks like if I want to put this on a tower and get 360 degrees I am going to have to use smaller channel widths for frequency planning which is going to result in lower throughput because of the smaller channels Or is it just magic and it will work anyway? Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic...
Okay, uncle. Being a wordsmith, math can be mysterious to me. Point taken. I REALLY want my Guinness (looks at time on phone). Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 [cid:image001.png@01D05815.63B66640]http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 1:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic... See, math is magic. From: Jason McKemiemailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 12:52 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic... That's the kind of math that makes my head hurt. On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.commailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote: I specifically reject words like magic Kurt. It is just math (1), and (2) simply a level of technology new to you. We can do 360 with pretty much any number (and have field examples of them all) of antennas you can think of, all within that 50 MHz: 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 8... Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735tel:727.501.3735 [cid:image002.png@01D05815.63B66640]http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 1:23 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic... From what I understand, frequency re-use is an option. On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.commailto:li...@wavelinc.com wrote: So if we only have 50mhz (today) in the 3.65ghz band how can we fully utilize the Telrad Base stations to maximum throughput if you have more than 1 base station on a tower? Sounds like I would have to be running multiple 20mhz channels with this product to get these crazy high throughput numbers but it looks like if I want to put this on a tower and get 360 degrees I am going to have to use smaller channel widths for frequency planning which is going to result in lower throughput because of the smaller channels Or is it just magic and it will work anyway? Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.comhttp://www.wavelinc.com/ tel. 419-562-6405tel:419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110tel:419-617-0110 This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses.
Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic...
LTE supports 1:1 frequency reuse. Same channel everywhere. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 12:21:24 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic... So if we only have 50mhz (today) in the 3.65ghz band how can we fully utilize the Telrad Base stations to maximum throughput if you have more than 1 base station on a tower? Sounds like I would have to be running multiple 20mhz channels with this product to get these crazy high throughput numbers but it looks like if I want to put this on a tower and get 360 degrees I am going to have to use smaller channel widths for frequency planning which is going to result in lower throughput because of the smaller channels Or is it just magic and it will work anyway? Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic...
From what I understand, frequency re-use is an option. On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: So if we only have 50mhz (today) in the 3.65ghz band how can we fully utilize the Telrad Base stations to maximum throughput if you have more than 1 base station on a tower? Sounds like I would have to be running multiple 20mhz channels with this product to get these crazy high throughput numbers but it looks like if I want to put this on a tower and get 360 degrees I am going to have to use smaller channel widths for frequency planning which is going to result in lower throughput because of the smaller channels Or is it just magic and it will work anyway? Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic...
The impact of the 1:1 frequency reuse must be a big hit otherwise the LTE cellular companies wouldn't be fighting for more spectrum? Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Mar 6, 2015, at 1:30 PM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah. I do wonder what the tradeoffs are though. It seems like there would be some level of self interference. LTE supports 1:1 frequency reuse. Same channel everywhere. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 12:21:24 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic... So if we only have 50mhz (today) in the 3.65ghz band how can we fully utilize the Telrad Base stations to maximum throughput if you have more than 1 base station on a tower? Sounds like I would have to be running multiple 20mhz channels with this product to get these crazy high throughput numbers but it looks like if I want to put this on a tower and get 360 degrees I am going to have to use smaller channel widths for frequency planning which is going to result in lower throughput because of the smaller channels Or is it just magic and it will work anyway? Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic...
Kurt, simple response the that: Give the name of one company, yours included, that does not want more of whatever it is they have. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 [cid:image001.png@01D05814.40CE8190]http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 1:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic... The impact of the 1:1 frequency reuse must be a big hit otherwise the LTE cellular companies wouldn't be fighting for more spectrum? Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Mar 6, 2015, at 1:30 PM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.commailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah. I do wonder what the tradeoffs are though. It seems like there would be some level of self interference. LTE supports 1:1 frequency reuse. Same channel everywhere. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [Image removed by sender.]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[Image removed by sender.]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[Image removed by sender.]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[Image removed by sender.]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.commailto:li...@wavelinc.com To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 12:21:24 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic... So if we only have 50mhz (today) in the 3.65ghz band how can we fully utilize the Telrad Base stations to maximum throughput if you have more than 1 base station on a tower? Sounds like I would have to be running multiple 20mhz channels with this product to get these crazy high throughput numbers but it looks like if I want to put this on a tower and get 360 degrees I am going to have to use smaller channel widths for frequency planning which is going to result in lower throughput because of the smaller channels Or is it just magic and it will work anyway? Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.comhttp://www.wavelinc.com/ tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses.
Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic...
In LTE with CoMP, your self-interference becomes multiplexed to improve your network's performance. Like I've been saying, LTE moves you from props to jets; it's another level entirely. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 [cid:image001.png@01D05812.958F3370]http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 1:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic... Yeah. I do wonder what the tradeoffs are though. It seems like there would be some level of self interference. LTE supports 1:1 frequency reuse. Same channel everywhere. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [Image removed by sender.]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[Image removed by sender.]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[Image removed by sender.]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[Image removed by sender.]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.commailto:li...@wavelinc.com To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 12:21:24 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic... So if we only have 50mhz (today) in the 3.65ghz band how can we fully utilize the Telrad Base stations to maximum throughput if you have more than 1 base station on a tower? Sounds like I would have to be running multiple 20mhz channels with this product to get these crazy high throughput numbers but it looks like if I want to put this on a tower and get 360 degrees I am going to have to use smaller channel widths for frequency planning which is going to result in lower throughput because of the smaller channels Or is it just magic and it will work anyway? Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.comhttp://www.wavelinc.com/ tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses.
Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic...
Like I said earlier on another thread; Any sufficiently advanced
technology is indistinguishable from magic.
We've been playing with burning sticks, and Telrad is bringing us
electricity.
or something like that...
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 3/6/2015 10:27 AM, Patrick Leary wrote:
I specifically reject words like magic Kurt. It is just math (1),
and (2) simply a level of technology new to you. We can do 360 with
pretty much any number (and have field examples of them all) of
antennas you can think of, all within that 50 MHz: 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 8...
*Patrick Leary*
***M*727.501.3735
http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
*Sent:* Friday, March 06, 2015 1:23 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic...
From what I understand, frequency re-use is an option.
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com
mailto:li...@wavelinc.com wrote:
So if we only have 50mhz (today) in the 3.65ghz band how can we fully
utilize the Telrad Base stations to maximum throughput if you have
more than 1 base station on a tower? Sounds like I would have to be
running multiple 20mhz channels with this product to get these crazy
high throughput numbers but it looks like if I want to put this on a
tower and get 360 degrees I am going to have to use smaller channel
widths for frequency planning which is going to result in lower
throughput because of the smaller channels Or is it just magic and
it will work anyway?
Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
http://www.wavelinc.com http://www.wavelinc.com/
tel. 419-562-6405 tel:419-562-6405
fax. 419-617-0110 tel:419-617-0110
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Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic...
I specifically reject words like magic Kurt. It is just math (1), and (2) simply a level of technology new to you. We can do 360 with pretty much any number (and have field examples of them all) of antennas you can think of, all within that 50 MHz: 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 8... Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 [cid:image001.png@01D05811.0D380D90]http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 1:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic... From what I understand, frequency re-use is an option. On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.commailto:li...@wavelinc.com wrote: So if we only have 50mhz (today) in the 3.65ghz band how can we fully utilize the Telrad Base stations to maximum throughput if you have more than 1 base station on a tower? Sounds like I would have to be running multiple 20mhz channels with this product to get these crazy high throughput numbers but it looks like if I want to put this on a tower and get 360 degrees I am going to have to use smaller channel widths for frequency planning which is going to result in lower throughput because of the smaller channels Or is it just magic and it will work anyway? Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.comhttp://www.wavelinc.com/ tel. 419-562-6405tel:419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110tel:419-617-0110 This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses.
Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic...
That's the kind of math that makes my head hurt. On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote: I specifically reject words like magic Kurt. It is just math (1), and (2) simply a level of technology new to you. We can do 360 with pretty much any number (and have field examples of them all) of antennas you can think of, all within that 50 MHz: 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 8... *Patrick Leary* *M* 727.501.3735 http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie *Sent:* Friday, March 06, 2015 1:23 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic... From what I understand, frequency re-use is an option. On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: So if we only have 50mhz (today) in the 3.65ghz band how can we fully utilize the Telrad Base stations to maximum throughput if you have more than 1 base station on a tower? Sounds like I would have to be running multiple 20mhz channels with this product to get these crazy high throughput numbers but it looks like if I want to put this on a tower and get 360 degrees I am going to have to use smaller channel widths for frequency planning which is going to result in lower throughput because of the smaller channels Or is it just magic and it will work anyway? Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses.
Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic...
See, math is magic. From: Jason McKemie Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 12:52 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic... That's the kind of math that makes my head hurt. On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote: I specifically reject words like magic Kurt. It is just math (1), and (2) simply a level of technology new to you. We can do 360 with pretty much any number (and have field examples of them all) of antennas you can think of, all within that 50 MHz: 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 8... Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 1:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic... From what I understand, frequency re-use is an option. On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: So if we only have 50mhz (today) in the 3.65ghz band how can we fully utilize the Telrad Base stations to maximum throughput if you have more than 1 base station on a tower? Sounds like I would have to be running multiple 20mhz channels with this product to get these crazy high throughput numbers but it looks like if I want to put this on a tower and get 360 degrees I am going to have to use smaller channel widths for frequency planning which is going to result in lower throughput because of the smaller channels Or is it just magic and it will work anyway? Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses.
Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic...
Maybe I just need educated then. But lets say you have a 3 sector base station running in 1:1 frequency re-use and you have a CPE shooting through 3 miles of trees and running at lowest modulation, is that CPE using full resources of all AP's at that point? Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Mar 6, 2015, at 1:27 PM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote: I specifically reject words like magic Kurt. It is just math (1), and (2) simply a level of technology new to you. We can do 360 with pretty much any number (and have field examples of them all) of antennas you can think of, all within that 50 MHz: 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 8... Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 image001.png From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 1:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic... From what I understand, frequency re-use is an option. On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: So if we only have 50mhz (today) in the 3.65ghz band how can we fully utilize the Telrad Base stations to maximum throughput if you have more than 1 base station on a tower? Sounds like I would have to be running multiple 20mhz channels with this product to get these crazy high throughput numbers but it looks like if I want to put this on a tower and get 360 degrees I am going to have to use smaller channel widths for frequency planning which is going to result in lower throughput because of the smaller channels Or is it just magic and it will work anyway? Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses.
Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic...
Birds is magic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1NAFfI6CwQ From: Patrick Leary Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 12:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic... Okay, uncle. Being a wordsmith, math can be mysterious to me. Point taken. I REALLY want my Guinness (looks at time on phone). Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 1:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic... See, math is magic. From: Jason McKemie Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 12:52 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic... That's the kind of math that makes my head hurt. On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote: I specifically reject words like magic Kurt. It is just math (1), and (2) simply a level of technology new to you. We can do 360 with pretty much any number (and have field examples of them all) of antennas you can think of, all within that 50 MHz: 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 8... Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 1:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic... From what I understand, frequency re-use is an option. On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: So if we only have 50mhz (today) in the 3.65ghz band how can we fully utilize the Telrad Base stations to maximum throughput if you have more than 1 base station on a tower? Sounds like I would have to be running multiple 20mhz channels with this product to get these crazy high throughput numbers but it looks like if I want to put this on a tower and get 360 degrees I am going to have to use smaller channel widths for frequency planning which is going to result in lower throughput because of the smaller channels Or is it just magic and it will work anyway? Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses.
Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic...
All of telrads magic is in marketing as far as I am concerned at this point ;) On Mar 6, 2015 11:26 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: Birds is magic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1NAFfI6CwQ *From:* Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com *Sent:* Friday, March 06, 2015 12:59 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic... Okay, uncle. Being a wordsmith, math can be mysterious to me. Point taken. I REALLY want my Guinness (looks at time on phone). *Patrick Leary* *M* 727.501.3735 http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof *Sent:* Friday, March 06, 2015 1:55 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic... See, math is magic. *From:* Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com *Sent:* Friday, March 06, 2015 12:52 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic... That's the kind of math that makes my head hurt. On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote: I specifically reject words like magic Kurt. It is just math (1), and (2) simply a level of technology new to you. We can do 360 with pretty much any number (and have field examples of them all) of antennas you can think of, all within that 50 MHz: 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 8... *Patrick Leary* *M* 727.501.3735 http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie *Sent:* Friday, March 06, 2015 1:23 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic... From what I understand, frequency re-use is an option. On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: So if we only have 50mhz (today) in the 3.65ghz band how can we fully utilize the Telrad Base stations to maximum throughput if you have more than 1 base station on a tower? Sounds like I would have to be running multiple 20mhz channels with this product to get these crazy high throughput numbers but it looks like if I want to put this on a tower and get 360 degrees I am going to have to use smaller channel widths for frequency planning which is going to result in lower throughput because of the smaller channels Or is it just magic and it will work anyway? Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses.
Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic...
In some areas in the south, due to another SMR license holder, Sprint runs 3 MHz paired channels in the 800 MHz band. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 2:37:30 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic... No, the protocol has mechanisms to deal with that kind of stuff Mobile companies deploy each technology on its own channels, so gsm on one block, 4g hspda on another, lte on another .. The process of turning down a network and reusing the spectrum is very slow… An also, just because they pay billions in spectrum doesn’t mean that they have huge channels… most are 10mhz pairs, some are 20 mhz pairs and others are 5 mhz pairs… Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: li...@wavelinc.com li...@wavelinc.com Reply-To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Date: Friday, March 6, 2015 at 4:09 PM To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic... Maybe I just need educated then. But lets say you have a 3 sector base station running in 1:1 frequency re-use and you have a CPE shooting through 3 miles of trees and running at lowest modulation, is that CPE using full resources of all AP's at that point? Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Mar 6, 2015, at 1:27 PM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote: I specifically reject words like magic Kurt. It is just math (1), and (2) simply a level of technology new to you. We can do 360 with pretty much any number (and have field examples of them all) of antennas you can think of, all within that 50 MHz: 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 8... Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 image001.png From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 1:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic... From what I understand, frequency re-use is an option. On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: So if we only have 50mhz (today) in the 3.65ghz band how can we fully utilize the Telrad Base stations to maximum throughput if you have more than 1 base station on a tower? Sounds like I would have to be running multiple 20mhz channels with this product to get these crazy high throughput numbers but it looks like if I want to put this on a tower and get 360 degrees I am going to have to use smaller channel widths for frequency planning which is going to result in lower throughput because of the smaller channels Or is it just magic and it will work anyway? Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses.
Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic...
No worries TJ, just like someone is always first, some are always the last know. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 [cid:image001.png@01D0582A.5C86C030]http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 3:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic... All of telrads magic is in marketing as far as I am concerned at this point ;) On Mar 6, 2015 11:26 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.commailto:af...@kwisp.com wrote: Birds is magic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1NAFfI6CwQ From: Patrick Learymailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 12:59 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic... Okay, uncle. Being a wordsmith, math can be mysterious to me. Point taken. I REALLY want my Guinness (looks at time on phone). Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735tel:727.501.3735 [cid:image002.png@01D0582A.5C86C030]http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 1:55 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic... See, math is magic. From: Jason McKemiemailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 12:52 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic... That's the kind of math that makes my head hurt. On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.commailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote: I specifically reject words like magic Kurt. It is just math (1), and (2) simply a level of technology new to you. We can do 360 with pretty much any number (and have field examples of them all) of antennas you can think of, all within that 50 MHz: 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 8... Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735tel:727.501.3735 [cid:image002.png@01D0582A.5C86C030]http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 1:23 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Magic... From what I understand, frequency re-use is an option. On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.commailto:li...@wavelinc.com wrote: So if we only have 50mhz (today) in the 3.65ghz band how can we fully utilize the Telrad Base stations to maximum throughput if you have more than 1 base station on a tower? Sounds like I would have to be running multiple 20mhz channels with this product to get these crazy high throughput numbers but it looks like if I want to put this on a tower and get 360 degrees I am going to have to use smaller channel widths for frequency planning which is going to result in lower throughput because of the smaller channels Or is it just magic and it will work anyway? Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.comhttp://www.wavelinc.com/ tel. 419-562-6405tel:419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110tel:419-617-0110 This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses.
