Re: [AFMUG] day labor legalities
I have heard of desired items being purchased, expensed, and show up missing... From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 7:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] day labor legalities NOT looking to skirt the system I got the ok to use some labor for project work as i need it. Like the other day when i brought my dad. What are the actual rules, we arent looking to cash money under the table, but these arent going to be full, or even part time employees, over 600 bucks theyll 1099 but should that just be done anyway? I have a few different people I will use, and probably not more than a couple days a week For the most part these people will be tying stuff to ropes and watching spools stands -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] day labor legalities
Even easier to COY and send one regardless. Especially if you’re talking about a few people. In past jobs if I needed temp labor I used temp labor agencies so I didn’t have to worry about anything. Yes you pay more, but there is no paperwork or legal headache to worry about. Daniel White Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales ConVergence Technologies Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 <mailto:dwh...@converge-tech.com> dwh...@converge-tech.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 5:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] day labor legalities That is $600 a year, not am occurrence I think. Have them fill out the form and file and send it if they exceed it. On Tue, Oct 18, 2016, 11:19 PM That One Guy /sarcasm mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote: i just need the guys, the boss said hed pay them, id prefer to not get my boss put in jail or the hammer of the irs cause i did something wrong. there is always discussion here of the definition of employees and rules on subcontractors or whatever but usually more toward long term folks. On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote: Maybe you could outsource all the nasty employer stuff to a PEO? Or tell them you’re a startup, and pay them in stock options. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 8:37 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: [AFMUG] day labor legalities NOT looking to skirt the system I got the ok to use some labor for project work as i need it. Like the other day when i brought my dad. What are the actual rules, we arent looking to cash money under the table, but these arent going to be full, or even part time employees, over 600 bucks theyll 1099 but should that just be done anyway? I have a few different people I will use, and probably not more than a couple days a week For the most part these people will be tying stuff to ropes and watching spools stands -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: [AFMUG] day labor legalities
That is $600 a year, not am occurrence I think. Have them fill out the form and file and send it if they exceed it. On Tue, Oct 18, 2016, 11:19 PM That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > i just need the guys, the boss said hed pay them, id prefer to not get my > boss put in jail or the hammer of the irs cause i did something wrong. > there is always discussion here of the definition of employees and rules on > subcontractors or whatever but usually more toward long term folks. > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > Maybe you could outsource all the nasty employer stuff to a PEO? > > > > Or tell them you’re a startup, and pay them in stock options. > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy > /sarcasm > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2016 8:37 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* [AFMUG] day labor legalities > > > > > NOT looking to skirt the system > > > > I got the ok to use some labor for project work as i need it. Like the > other day when i brought my dad. > > > > What are the actual rules, we arent looking to cash money under the table, > but these arent going to be full, or even part time employees, over 600 > bucks theyll 1099 but should that just be done anyway? > > > > I have a few different people I will use, and probably not more than a > couple days a week > > > > For the most part these people will be tying stuff to ropes and watching > spools stands > > -- > > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team > as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. > > > > > -- > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team > as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >
Re: [AFMUG] day labor legalities
i just need the guys, the boss said hed pay them, id prefer to not get my boss put in jail or the hammer of the irs cause i did something wrong. there is always discussion here of the definition of employees and rules on subcontractors or whatever but usually more toward long term folks. On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Maybe you could outsource all the nasty employer stuff to a PEO? > > > > Or tell them you’re a startup, and pay them in stock options. > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy > /sarcasm > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2016 8:37 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* [AFMUG] day labor legalities > > > > > NOT looking to skirt the system > > > > I got the ok to use some labor for project work as i need it. Like the > other day when i brought my dad. > > > > What are the actual rules, we arent looking to cash money under the table, > but these arent going to be full, or even part time employees, over 600 > bucks theyll 1099 but should that just be done anyway? > > > > I have a few different people I will use, and probably not more than a > couple days a week > > > > For the most part these people will be tying stuff to ropes and watching > spools stands > > -- > > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team > as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. > -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] day labor legalities
Maybe you could outsource all the nasty employer stuff to a PEO? Or tell them you’re a startup, and pay them in stock options. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 8:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] day labor legalities NOT looking to skirt the system I got the ok to use some labor for project work as i need it. Like the other day when i brought my dad. What are the actual rules, we arent looking to cash money under the table, but these arent going to be full, or even part time employees, over 600 bucks theyll 1099 but should that just be done anyway? I have a few different people I will use, and probably not more than a couple days a week For the most part these people will be tying stuff to ropes and watching spools stands -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.