On Monday, February 03, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Matt Mahoney wrote:
> Less than 8.7 x 10^244 bits. That's the square of the Bekenstein bound of a
> black hole with a Schwartzchild radius equal to the Hubble radius,13.8
> billion light years. Edit distance expressed as the shortest program that
>
On Mon, Feb 3, 2020, 7:52 AM John Rose wrote:
> Talking big numbers, what is an expression of the sum of ALL edit
> distances in the universe? Not just Hamming but say Levenshtein distance,
> for sequences of unequal length. The distance from one sequence to ALL
> other sequences, summed for all
Talking big numbers, what is an expression of the sum of ALL edit distances in
the universe? Not just Hamming but say Levenshtein distance, for sequences of
unequal length. The distance from one sequence to ALL other sequences, summed
for all sequences.
Gotta be yuge! Something on the order of
how dangerous are viruses, and it will show how dangerous a nanobot is. why do
they do x, look in your microscope.
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So you know, we KNOW nanobots and metal men are coming, they will be in the lab
with tentacles and 50 eyes n their head etc. But what's in the skull? What in
his hand exactly? What in THAT? And what's between these views? I.e. what is in
the hallway near lab? Where do the nanobots return to?
zoom in, in what way?
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On Wednesday, January 29, 2020, at 4:32 PM, Matt Mahoney wrote:
> We aren't smart enough to look ahead more than one advance in intelligence,
> or else we could just skip to that step.
Hehe. "me thinks replicating nanobots will take over one day, but can't make
them"
We are getting smarter on a
I think Vernor Vinge meant a singularity in the mathematical sense. At
least that was my interpretation of his paper. If each doubling or n-fold
increase of progress takes half the time, then that's exactly what you get.
We can't say it won't happen because a singularity is an event horizon on
our
Well, with my example above, the volume does keep growing non-linearly lol. So
in a sense, yes, the singularity is sorta real.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3I2zeoUbzg <-look free nrg. =) infinito.
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"In either case, the numbers are finite, so there will be no singularity."
Does the average person (or indeed any person) who uses the term "singularity"
genuinely expect that any physical quantity will go to infinity? That was not
my impression. I take "technological singularity" as a
a 1024 qbit computer is already 10^308, a small exponential qbit quantum
computer would be something like 2^1 billion. which is even more. i dont
think putting natural amplitude limits on a quantum computers power actually is
what you do... more think of permutations of space, a chess
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 1:25 PM wrote:
> what if a quantum computer isnt a finite amount of qbits, its actually an
> exponential amount.
>
Lloyd calculated the computing capacity of the universe to be 10^120
quantum operations and 10^90 bits. https://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0110141
A qubit flip
Events are exponential, I think once the group settles and runs out of
updates/resources they hang/wait, until another system finishes it's S
curve.so it's many S curves happening at different times, slowly combining,
and faster later on.
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Remember I drew a pic few months ago showing how Earth radiating replicators
like a growing sphere means it can double. Earth can touch/eats 6 planets
around itself, then can touch 2456..170. The larger the volume the
larger volume it can gain
what if a quantum computer isnt a finite amount of qbits, its actually an
exponential amount.
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> If we ignore all this detail, we can see Evolution of Earth has been
> exponential.
>
Evolution is chaotic, not exponential. It has long periods where nothing
happens, punctuated by mass proliferation and mass extinction when a new
species evolves a major
"once the passcode is broken, all the jail inmates can run past the door".
thats only if its not kept a secret, by the person that works it out.
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If we ignore all this detail, we can see Evolution of Earth has been
exponential.
So no linear, no slowing down. Only in local times.
It's sorta strange to think as soon as we sort some particles' positions in a
bedroom (invent AGI), Earth changes so much so fast. Is it hopeful wishing. ?.
Logarithmic is the inverse of exponential. So another way to state that
intelligence increases with the log of computing power is that while global
computing power doubled every 1.5 years since 1950 (exponential),
intelligence (measured by GDP) increased almost linearly, about 3% per
year. (And
its cause logic is log compressable. =D
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a logistic curve is just the true form of the exponential curve
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and then, why the hell is logarythmic have log at the start and logic has it
at the start as well!
why is that?
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Isn't an exponential curve just the reverse of a logarithmic curve? Are you
saying cost is falling and slowing down falling? But evolution is an S curve
made of S curvesI'm contused about this word 'logarithmic' in your context.
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On Mon, Jan 27, 2020, 5:50 PM wrote:
> Yes intelligence/evolution grows exponentially more faster (hence
> exponentially more powerful) the more data, compute, and arms (ex.
> nanobots) you have.
>
No, it grows logarithmically, whether you measure intelligence using
prediction accuracy
making brains massive is not my solution, im going to finish my bot with
under a meg of random access memory. how do i plan on doing that you wonder.
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On Monday, January 27, 2020, at 5:49 PM, immortal.discoveries wrote:
> I was just thinking this 4 days ago. Perhaps I read it somewhere directly.
Lossless Compression, to be clear here.
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On Monday, January 27, 2020, at 5:02 PM, James Bowery wrote:
> Unfortunately, measures inferior to self-extracting archive size, such as
> "perplexity" or *worse* are now dominating SOTA publications.
I was just thinking this 4 days ago. Perhaps I read it somewhere directly.
On Monday, January
And, even worse, I suggested the entire *change log* of Wikipedia as the
corpus so as to exposure latent identities of information sabotage in the
language models.
Google DeepMind can, and should, finance compression prizes with such
expanded corpora, based on the lessons learned with enwik8 and
On Mon, Jan 27, 2020, 12:04 PM wrote:
> I see the Hutter Prize is a separate contest from Matt's contest/rules:
> http://mattmahoney.net/dc/textrules.html
>
Marcus Hutter and I couldn't agree on the details of the contest, which is
why there are two almost identical contests.
He is offering
So basically, in all practicalness and utilizationalness: For the computer you
have access to, or that we can share to peers, we want to aim for the best
compression aka quality speech the AGI talks, while the RAM/speed that it talks
at 'works' on the computer enough not to annoy you. And you
It'd make sense to me that, if one entry can get 100MB down to 20MB using 32GB,
and another alg can get it to 21MB using 1GB, it's better but but 1MB off and
so unless he can pump it up to 32GB RAM and get it down to 19MB, it's not as
smart. It's all about how smart it talks and the feasibility
I see the Hutter Prize is a separate contest from Matt's contest/rules:
http://mattmahoney.net/dc/textrules.html
Time and Working Memory has no hard limit. Just the compressed result. This
makes sense because, the compression/decompression time for outputting 1
letter/word is ok on modern
If you want to get the closest distance of 2 3d lines in 3d space, you can do
a 2d line intersect then interpolate the depth ratio and get the difference of
the 2 interpolations.
or. if you just do a subtract for every point along the line, theres alot
more to do, but thats the only
beautiful picture mate. loved it :)
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When I first read the "context mixing" on Matt's pages, I thought it was nuts,
I mean I didn't bother looking into the algorithms because I imagined it was
using thousands of "models", like giants. But it turned out to be small
unicorns. It's really simple hehe. And it's /the way/ to view AGI.
Me:
"Ya BF is a simpler idea and easy to code up but the wait time and memory size
isn't simple to deal with now is it. So BF is not the simplest way to get the
target. It ends up being the WORST. However for small narrow tasks, it can be
best."
Matt:
"There is a 4 way trade-off between
There is a 4 way trade-off between compression ratio, speed, memory, and
code complexity. Evolution is simple, but only because it uses 10^46 DNA
copy operations on 10^37 bits.
On Sat, Jan 25, 2020, 1:39 PM wrote:
> Ya BF is a simpler idea and easy to code up but the wait time and memory
> size
Ya BF is a simpler idea and easy to code up but the wait time and memory size
isn't simple to deal with now is it. So BF is not the simplest way to get the
target. It ends up being the WORST. However for small narrow tasks, it can be
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brute force algorythms actually have less commands in them, than non brute
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For anyone still wondering why we need to compress data if we are making an AI
brain, let me explain again. Lossless Compression let's you compress 100MB to
14.8MB (this has been done using a wikipedia dataset), and it decompresses it
back using a predictor for the next bit/letter/word/phrase
If you have seen a 13MB entry of wiki8 compressed, I assume someone compressed
it in under a year, no brute force.
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True, the smaller code is the better algorithm, as long as it is not slow brute
force. Code can become longer if you do heuristics but is faster. You can
create a code a few pages long only that is much faster than brute force and
almost gives best compression (for wiki8 and related data). So
A new corpus suggestion: Google's One Billion Word Benchmark.
The idea would be to get people to stop using the misleading model
selection criterion of perplexity and start to realize the principled
generality of lossless compression.
I'm really surprised and even dismayed at how much of an
On Tue, Jan 21, 2020, 12:45 PM wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 21, 2020, at 2:38 PM, Matt Mahoney wrote:
>
> create all possible archives starting with the smallest
>
> Brute Force? Makes no sense but you get 1st place for trying!
>
I get the prize for simplest description, not for size or speed.
Matt, is 14.8MB the lowest entry for the 100MB wiki8 dataset? Or have you seen
ni your life a ex. 14.4MB entry? Could be really slow but I want to know the
lowest size seen so far.
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Depending on how happy I feel I will provide cash to contestees. Up to 1,000USD
but varies.
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On Tuesday, January 21, 2020, at 2:38 PM, Matt Mahoney wrote:
> create all possible archives starting with the smallest
Brute Force? Makes no sense but you get 1st place for trying!
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On Sat, Jan 18, 2020, 4:32 PM wrote:
> I almost feel we should open a 2nd Hutter Prize contest that awards cash
> and ranking to those who can explain their algorithm in the least amount of
> words and takes the least amount of time to understand it. AGI deserves it.
> You could check it works
I almost feel we should open a 2nd Hutter Prize contest that awards cash and
ranking to those who can explain their algorithm in the least amount of words
and takes the least amount of time to understand it. AGI deserves it. You could
check it works by coding up your own.
The universe can't create new information from nowhere. So Earth, and the
universe, is lossless. But more tangibly is the thought that we don't actually
have a lossy world to regenerate as I said actually. We have a lossless system
and are simply sorting particles around until equilibrium. Only
Focus on lossless compression to achieve the chatting/discovery connections
ability, and hence survival.
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Tests for AI include the Turing test, survival, making you understand its
discoveries, and lossless compression.
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not if the dog has a robot other people couldnt make, even if they stole his
manuscripts.
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Your problem Ranch you don't like Asians. I don't see the difference. We all
can defend against a miniature dog. We are human-level machines.
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how could a person making monkeys of their children involve anything successful
at all?
Its more like a natural disaster.
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That'd be considered evolution my good friend. Change is evolution too.
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more like the future devolves into utter crap, and nothing successful survives
except stinky fetched shit.
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Breaking News: Alien Life has been found! And it wasn't what you expected at
all! There are everywhere. Check your closet, check your bed, check your food,
take a look at Mars. Everything is just particles. All of Mars is a alien.
Different machines/systems churn/ evolve/ move/ react
I would think there would be libraries of circuits that can be wired together...
It's nice to be able to get a sense of the complexity of an observable. With
that Wick rotations can be used for mapping between statics and dynamics and
converting between quantum fields and statistical mechanics.
they say grover search doesnt work, but who knows for real...
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The circuit is actually on Wikipedia. Wonder if it will go into Quiskit:
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if you put all the logic in hard for a program, then you get rid of the cycles
required multiple.
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On Fri, Jan 10, 2020, 7:26 AM John Rose wrote:
> And then is there a quantum compression system that uses a many paths
> simultaneity to seek KC?
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> ... seems viable to me but not sure. Matt would know :)
>
I suppose you could use Grover's algorithm to speed up a search for
programs that
And then is there a quantum compression system that uses a many paths
simultaneity to seek KC?
... seems viable to me but not sure. Matt would know :)
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Ever work hard and wonder what if you just dropped it all and took up a golfing
profession? Matt's version of that would be working on lossy compression. No,
just no. I mean some dropout is good but our goal with lossless is to know we
are understanding the data then can generate+recognize
But can it compete against GPT-2 practically? I will solve this puzzle!
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THERE'S THAT ONLINE LEARNING!!! Matt pioneered that I think he says. Anyway
Matt contributed a Lot.
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https://royvanrijn.com/blog/2010/02/compression-by-prediction/
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Speed is also a wanted criteria for the best decompressor achieved. Because a
brute force could do all we want. However speed isn't our main concern as much
I feel. If it takes 10 days then ya that's really bad (maybe) if only 1MB
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@Matt and others, is this correct?
After analyzing http://mattmahoney.net/dc/dce.html#Section_58 and other areas
on the site, and looking at code etc, I have some new understanding. The code
the participants made is small (~0.5MB or even 0.04KB sometimes) compared to
the 100MB they compress.
The 3 ways of translation: elaborate, translate, and summarize, is a form of
compression/decompression. 'the cat on the house'='house cat'
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