Re: [agi] Early Apps.

2002-12-27 Thread Shane Legg
Alan Grimes wrote: According to my rule of thumb, If it has a natural language database it is wrong, I more or less agree... Currently I'm trying to learn Italian before I leave New Zealand to start my PhD. After a few months working through books on Italian grammar and trying to learn lots

[agi] Language and AGI (was Re: Early Apps)

2002-12-27 Thread Cliff Stabbert
Friday, December 27, 2002, 5:15:40 AM, Shane Legg wrote: SL One other thing; if one really is focused on natural language SL learning why not make things a little easier and use an artificial SL language like Esperanto? Unlike like highly artificial languages SL like logic based or maths based

Re: [agi] Language and AGI

2002-12-27 Thread Alexander E. Richter
At 06:11 27.12.02 -0500, Cliff wrote: ... I suspect that Esperanto will not be much more difficult to tackle than any current existing language, or at best a *tiny* bit easier. The greatest difficulty of language is not grammar, or spelling, punctuation, etc. Esperanto is still too complicated.

Re: [agi] Natural Language DB's and AI

2002-12-27 Thread ben
Kevin wrote: We often intelligently use things we do not understand. Computers, automobiles, our brains, quarks, and so on. Why can't an AGI use words it does not actually understand, so long as it uses the word properly and accomplishes the desired result? I think it's fine for an AGI

[agi] Linguistic DB

2002-12-27 Thread SMcClenahan
I've always considered the whole world/universe as one big database. A system that narrows its focus to a partial set of knowledge contained in say, a computer database, will be excellent when performing within the realm of which that database was created. Everyone needs to start wearing

[agi] FUNNY: Tenjewberrymud (fwd)

2002-12-27 Thread SMcClenahan
Seriously, how would current state of the art voice recognition software grok this conversation? cheers, Simon -- Forwarded Message: - You must read this aloud (for the full effect). Just say any unfamiliar words phonetically. It's amazing, you

Re: [agi] Language and AGI (was Re: Early Apps)

2002-12-27 Thread Shane Legg
I suspect that Esperanto will not be much more difficult to tackle than any current existing language, or at best a *tiny* bit easier. The greatest difficulty of language is not grammar, or spelling, punctuation, etc. To get an AGI to the point of using _any_ language naturally on the level

RE: [agi] Language and AGI (was Re: Early Apps)

2002-12-27 Thread Ben Goertzel
Shane, I agreed with the wording in your earlier post more ;) It is true that learning Esperanto would be easier for an AI than learning English or Italian. However, I think that if you had an AI capable of mastering the syntax-semantics-pragmatics interface [the really hard part of language,

Re: [agi] Language and AGI (was Re: Early Apps)

2002-12-27 Thread Jonathan Standley
- Original Message - From: Shane Legg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [agi] Language and AGI (was Re: Early Apps) I guess people continue to do AI with languages like English because that is what is of practical use and

RE: [agi] Early Apps.

2002-12-27 Thread Gary Miller
On Dec 26 Ben Goertzel said: One basic problem is what's known as symbol grounding. this means that an Ai system can't handle semantics, language-based cognition or even advanced syntax if it doesn't understand the relationships between its linguistic tokens and patterns in the