Re: [agi] Project proposal: MindPixel 2

2007-01-28 Thread Eric Baum
Ben B) Even if there are only 5 applications of rules, the Ben combinatorial explosion still exists. If there are 10 rules and Ben 1 billlion knowledge items, then there may be up to 10 billion Ben possibilities to consider in each inference step. How do you respond to the 20-question argument

Re: [agi] Project proposal: MindPixel 2

2007-01-28 Thread Russell Wallace
On 1/28/07, Eric Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you respond to the 20-question argument that there are only of order 2^20 knowledge items ? The granularity of knowledge items for 20 Questions and the number 20 are specifically chosen to match each other, to make the game fair. While

Re: [agi] Project proposal: MindPixel 2

2007-01-28 Thread Eric Baum
Russell On 1/28/07, Eric Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you respond to the 20-question argument that there are only of order 2^20 knowledge items ? Russell The granularity of knowledge items for 20 Questions and the Russell number 20 are specifically chosen to match each other, to

Re: [agi] Project proposal: MindPixel 2

2007-01-28 Thread YKY (Yan King Yin)
On 1/29/07, Eric Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't played 20 questions recently, but in response to your comment I just went to www.20q.net and played thinking of Alice in Wonderland, the book. The neural net guessed is it a novel on question 22, and then decided it had gone far enough and

Re: [agi] foundations of probability theory

2007-01-28 Thread Charles D Hixson
gts wrote: Hi Ben, On Extropy-chat, you and I and others were discussing the foundations of probability theory, in particular the philosophical controversy surrounding the so-called Principle of Indifference. Probability theory is of course relevant to AGI because of its bearing on decision

Re: [agi] Project proposal: MindPixel 2

2007-01-28 Thread Russell Wallace
On 1/28/07, Eric Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you ever played 20 questions? Yep. In the games I've played, Alice in Wonderland would be a fine topic. I admit its surprising that one plays as well as one does. Interesting, and surprising, but I don't draw the same conclusion as you

Re: [agi] foundations of probability theory

2007-01-28 Thread YKY (Yan King Yin)
Ben, Is the probabilistic logic you use in Novamente the same as Pei Wang's version? If not, why do you use your version? YKY - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?list_id=303

Re: [agi] foundations of probability theory

2007-01-28 Thread Pei Wang
To avoid confusion, I never refer to my multi-valued logic as a version of probabilistic logic, though it has some similarity/relationship with it. My reasons have been explained in several papers, like http://nars.wang.googlepages.com/wang.confidence.pdf , as well as my book. Pei On 1/28/07,

Re: [agi] foundations of probability theory

2007-01-28 Thread Ben Goertzel
Pei Wang's uncertain logic is **not** probabilistic, though it uses frequency calculations We have our own probabilistic logic theory called Probabilistic Logic Networks (PLN), which will be described in a book to be released toward the end of this year or the start of 2008. The

Re: [agi] foundations of probability theory

2007-01-28 Thread Ben Goertzel
Hi, Well, Jaynes showed that the PI can be derived from another assumption, right?: That equivalent states of information yield equivalent probabilities This seems to also be dealt with at the end of Cox's book The Algebra of Probable Inference where he derives the standard entropy