Re: [agi] Incremental Fluid Construction Grammar released

2008-01-10 Thread William Pearson
On 10/01/2008, Benjamin Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Processing a dictionary in a useful way requires quite sophisticated language understanding ability, though. Once you can do that, the hard part of the problem is already solved ;-) While this kind of system requires sophisticated

Re: [agi] Incremental Fluid Construction Grammar released

2008-01-10 Thread Benjamin Goertzel
I'll be a lot more interested when people start creating NLP systems that are syntactically and semantically processing statements about words, sentences and other linguistic structures and adding syntactic and semantic rules based on those sentences. Depending on exactly what you mean by

Re: [agi] Incremental Fluid Construction Grammar released

2008-01-10 Thread Stephen Reed
Ben asked: What is the semantics of ?on-situation-localized-14 rdf:type texai:On-SituationLocalized On-SituationLocalized is a term I created for this use case, while postponing its associated definitional assertions. What I have in mind is that On-SituationLocalized is a specialization

Re: [agi] Incremental Fluid Construction Grammar released

2008-01-10 Thread Mike Dougherty
On Jan 10, 2008 9:59 AM, Stephen Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and that the system is to learn constructions for your examples. The below dialog is Controlled English, in which the system understands and generates constrained syntax and vocabulary. [user] The elements of a shit-list can be

Re: [agi] Incremental Fluid Construction Grammar released

2008-01-10 Thread Stephen Reed
- Original Message From: Benjamin Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2008 4:04:58 PM Subject: Re: [agi] Incremental Fluid Construction Grammar released And how would a young child or foreigner interpret on the Washington Monument or

Re: [agi] Incremental Fluid Construction Grammar released

2008-01-10 Thread William Pearson
On 10/01/2008, Benjamin Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be a lot more interested when people start creating NLP systems that are syntactically and semantically processing statements *about* words, sentences and other linguistic structures and adding syntactic and semantic rules

Re: [agi] Incremental Fluid Construction Grammar released

2008-01-10 Thread Stephen Reed
A typo in my previous post: ... Therefore, from the viewpoint of CxG, your example variations of the on construction have their own associated semantics, and are *NOT* necessarily covered by the rules that I developed for my sense of on. ... -Steve Stephen L. Reed Artificial Intelligence

Re: [agi] Incremental Fluid Construction Grammar released

2008-01-10 Thread Stephen Reed
Mike, If I understand your question correctly it asks whether a non-expert user can be guided to use Controlled English in a dialog system. In such a system it is expected that small differences exist between the few things that the system understands and the vast number of things that the

Re: [agi] Incremental Fluid Construction Grammar released

2008-01-10 Thread Stephen Reed
Will, Affixes are morphological constructions and my system could have rules to handle them. I plan eventually to include such rules for combinations that are new. However the Texai lexicon will explicitly represent all common word forms and multi-word phrases that would otherwise be covered

Re: [agi] Incremental Fluid Construction Grammar released

2008-01-10 Thread Benjamin Goertzel
On Jan 10, 2008 10:26 AM, William Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/01/2008, Benjamin Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be a lot more interested when people start creating NLP systems that are syntactically and semantically processing statements *about* words, sentences and

Re: [agi] Incremental Fluid Construction Grammar released

2008-01-10 Thread Benjamin Goertzel
Hi, Yes, the Texai implementation of Incremental Fluid Construction Grammar follows the phrase structure approach in which leaf lexical constituents are grouped into a structure (i.e. construction) hierarchy. Yet, because it is incremental and thus cognitively plausible, it should scale to

Re: [agi] Incremental Fluid Construction Grammar released

2008-01-10 Thread Stephen Reed
Granted that from a logical viewpoint, using a controlled English syntax to acquire rules is as much work as explicitly encoding the rules. However, a suitable, engaging, bootstrap dialog system may permit a multitude of non-expert users to add the rules, thus dramatically reducing the amount

Re: [agi] Incremental Fluid Construction Grammar released

2008-01-10 Thread Benjamin Goertzel
Do you plan to pay these non-experts, or recruit them as volunteers? ben On Jan 10, 2008 1:11 PM, Stephen Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Granted that from a logical viewpoint, using a controlled English syntax to acquire rules is as much work as explicitly encoding the rules. However, a

Re: [agi] Incremental Fluid Construction Grammar released

2008-01-10 Thread Stephen Reed
Ben, I want to engage them as volunteers. The OpenMind project is a good example. Another is the game that Cycorp built: http://game.cyc.com . The bootstrap dialog system will operate using Jabber, a standard chat protocol (e.g. Google Chat), so it should easily scale and deploy to the

Re: [agi] Incremental Fluid Construction Grammar released

2008-01-10 Thread Mike Dougherty
On Jan 10, 2008 10:57 AM, Stephen Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I understand your question correctly it asks whether a non-expert user can be guided to use Controlled English in a dialog system. In This is an idea that I wanted to try at Cycorp but Doug Lenat said that it had been tried

Re: [agi] Incremental Fluid Construction Grammar released

2008-01-10 Thread Stephen Reed
Mike, I'm beginning now to tear out my previous naive construction grammar code and plug in incremental FCG. When that is finished, maybe by month end, I'll begin tediously hand-crafting the constructions, and procedures, to support minimal dialog. Then I'll get the dialog system interfaced

Re: [agi] Incremental Fluid Construction Grammar released

2008-01-10 Thread William Pearson
On 10/01/2008, Benjamin Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 10, 2008 10:26 AM, William Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/01/2008, Benjamin Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be a lot more interested when people start creating NLP systems that are syntactically and

Re: [agi] Incremental Fluid Construction Grammar released

2008-01-10 Thread Stephen Reed
I am very interested in parsing the constructions used in WordNet and Wiktionary glosses (i.e. definitions). Here are some samples from WordNet online http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn . The glosses are parenthesized, and examples are in italics for those of you with rich text email

Re: [agi] Incremental Fluid Construction Grammar released

2008-01-10 Thread Matt Mahoney
All this discussion of building a grammar seems to ignore the obvious fact that in humans, language learning is a continuous process that does not require any explicit encoding of rules. I think either your model should learn this way, or you need to explain why your model would be more

Re: [agi] Incremental Fluid Construction Grammar released

2008-01-10 Thread Benjamin Goertzel
On Jan 10, 2008 10:03 PM, Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All this discussion of building a grammar seems to ignore the obvious fact that in humans, language learning is a continuous process that does not require any explicit encoding of rules. I think either your model should learn

Re: [agi] Incremental Fluid Construction Grammar released

2008-01-10 Thread Stephen Reed
Matt, I agree with Ben. Tomassello's book Constructing a Language, A Usage-Based Theory of Language Acquisition argues that young children develop the skill to discern the intentional actions of others. Construction Grammar (CxG) is a simple pairing of form and meaning. According to this