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From: John G. Rose [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 4:51 PM
To: agi@v2.listbox.com
Subject: RE: [agi] CONSCIOUSNESS AS AN ARCHITECTURE OF COMPUTATION
JOHN ROSE
The activation dynamics that occur in this graph, have you thought
To all,
In response to the many postings regarding consciousness, I would like to
make some observations:
1. Computation is often done best in a shifted paradigm, where the
internals are NOT one-to-one associated with external entities. A good
example are modern chess playing programs, which
http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/print/6268
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--- On Thu, 6/5/08, J Storrs Hall, PhD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/print/6268
Some rough calculations. A human brain has a volume of 10^24 nm^3. A scan of
5 x 5 x 50 nm voxels requires about 1000 exabytes = 10^21 bytes of storage (1
MB per synapse). A scan would
Or, assuming we decided to spend the same on that as on the Iraq war ($1
trillion:
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/08/01/analysis_says_war_could_cost_1_trillion/),
at $1 million per scope and associated lab costs, giving a million scopes
== 10^5 sec = 28 hours.
Which is more
A very interesting paper.
I am glad they are talking in terms of understanding consciousness by
reverse engineering the brain. It supports my belief that consciousness
results from and is an essential aspect of the type of computation a human
mind does.
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From: J
Before we spend the money required to reverse engineer the brain --- we
should at least spend the much less amount of money necessary to explore the
very promising potential of Novamente-like machines running on the
equivalent of about 20 million dollars worth of hardware at today's prices.
There seems to be a good deal of confusion (on this list and also over
on the Singularity list) about what people actually mean when they talk
about building an AGI by emulating or copying the brain.
There are two completely different types of project that seem to get
conflated in these
basically on the right track -- except there isn't just one cognitive level.
Are you thinking of working out the function of each topographically mapped
area a la DNF? Each column in a Darwin machine a la Calvin? Conscious-level
symbols a la Minsky?
On Thursday 05 June 2008 09:37:00 pm,
She doesn't really expound on the fact that humans have the power to choose.
I think memetics and temes have potential. You can't deny their existence
but is it only that? Sure, my middle finger is a meme. But there is
mechanics behind it. And those mechanics have a lot of regression and
Richard,
On 6/5/08, Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are two completely different types of project that seem to get
conflated in these discussions:
1) Copying the brain at the neural level, which is usually assumed to be a
'blind' copy - in other words, we will not know how
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