> Are the hackers smart enough to control an evolutionary process whose fitness
> function is the acquisition of computing resources?
It's an amusing thought that advanced AIs might emerge out of
organized crime, where the fitness function is to control more
computers and steal more data. Perhap
> So far, they have not succeeded in killing it. An intelligent, self
> improving
> worm would be even harder to kill. Once every computer was infected, it
> would
> be impossible.
>
Well it's like who really owns your computers resources? There is so much
stuff going on there I don't think it
--- "John G. Rose" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > From: Matt Mahoney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > It amazes me that a crime of this scale can go on for a year and we are
> > powerless to stop it either through law enforcement or technology. The
> > Storm
> > botnet already controls enough compu
> From: Matt Mahoney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> It amazes me that a crime of this scale can go on for a year and we are
> powerless to stop it either through law enforcement or technology. The
> Storm
> botnet already controls enough computing power to simulate a neural
> network
> the size of se
--- "John G. Rose" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > From: Matt Mahoney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > What are the best current examples of (to any extent) self-building
> > software
> > > ?
> >
> > So far, most of the effort has been concentrated on acquiring the
> > necessary
> > computing p
> > Still, this is the most
> > resource-intensive part of
> > the Novamente system (the part that's most likely to require
> > supercomputers to
> > achieve human-level AI).
>
>
> Why is it the most resource intensive, is it the evolutionary computational
> cost? Is this where MOSES is used?
Corr
> From: Mike Tintner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> John: I kind of like the idea of building software that then builds AGI.
>
> What are the best current examples of (to any extent) self-building
> software
> ?
Microsoft includes a facility in dot NET called Reflection that allows code
to inspect i
> From: Benjamin Goertzel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> State of the art is:
>
> -- Just barely, researchers have recently gotten automated
> program learning to synthesize an nlogn sorting algorithm based on the
> goal
> of sorting a large set of lists as rapidly as possible...
>
> -- OTOH, aut
> From: Matt Mahoney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> What are the best current examples of (to any extent) self-building
> software
> > ?
>
> So far, most of the effort has been concentrated on acquiring the
> necessary
> computing power. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm_botnet
>
Just think of
--- Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John: I kind of like the idea of building software that then builds AGI.
>
> What are the best current examples of (to any extent) self-building software
> ?
So far, most of the effort has been concentrated on acquiring the necessary
computing power
Well, there is a discipline of computer science devoted to automatic
programming, i.e. synthesizing software based on specifications of
desired functionality.
State of the art is:
-- Just barely, researchers have recently gotten automated
program learning to synthesize an nlogn sorting algorithm
John: I kind of like the idea of building software that then builds AGI.
What are the best current examples of (to any extent) self-building software
?
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> Yeah - because "weak" AI is so simple. Why not just make some
> run-of-the-mill narrow AI with a single goal of "Build AGI"? You can
> just relax while it does all the work.
>
I kind of like the idea of building software that then builds AGI. But you
could say that that software is part of th
On Nov 20, 2007 8:27 PM, Dennis Gorelik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Start with weak AI programs. That would push technology envelope
> further and further and in the end AGI will be possible.
Yeah - because "weak" AI is so simple. Why not just make some
run-of-the-mill narrow AI with a single go
Dennis,
> You need smarter programs.
> So why wouldn't you build such?
trying hard
> Start with weak AI programs. That would push technology envelope
> further and further and in the end AGI will be possible.
AGI is IMO possible now but requires very different approach than narrow AI.
> >> Any
>
>
> > Are you asking for success stories regarding research funding in any
> domain,
> > or regarding research funding in AGI?
>
> Any domain, please.
>
OK, so your suggestion is that research funding, in itself, is worthless in
any domain?
I don't really have time to pursue this kind of silly
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