RE: [agi] poll: what do you look for when joining an AGI group?

2007-06-13 Thread Derek Zahn
9. a particular AGI theoryThat is, one that convinces me it's on the right track. Now that you have run this poll, what did you learn from the responses and how are you using this information in your effort? - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe

Re: [agi] poll: what do you look for when joining an AGI group?

2007-06-05 Thread Jean-Paul Van Belle
Hey but it makes for an excellent quote. Facts don't have to be true if they're beautiful or funny! ;-) Sorry Eliezer, but the more famous you become, the more these types of apocryphal facts will surface... most not even vaguely true... You should be proud and happy! To quote Mr Bean 'Well, I

Re: [agi] poll: what do you look for when joining an AGI group?

2007-06-05 Thread Eliezer S. Yudkowsky
Hm. Memory may be tricking me. I did a deeper scan of my mind, and found that the only memory I actually have is that someone at the conference said that they saw I wasn't in the room that morning, and then looked around to see if there was a bomb. I have no memory of the fire thing one

Re: [agi] poll: what do you look for when joining an AGI group?

2007-06-05 Thread Mark Waser
This absolutely never happened. I absolutely do not say such things, even as a joke Your recollection is *very* different from mine. My recollection is that you certainly did say it as a joke but that I was *rather* surprised that you would say such a thing even as a joke. If anyone

Re: [agi] poll: what do you look for when joining an AGI group?

2007-06-05 Thread James Ratcliff
# 7 8 9 Money is good, but the overall AGI theory and program plan is the most important aspect. James Ratcliff YKY (Yan King Yin) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can people rate the following things? 1. quick $$, ie salary 2. long-term $$, ie shares in a successful corp 3. freedom to do what

Re: [agi] poll: what do you look for when joining an AGI group?

2007-06-05 Thread Mark Waser
I did a deeper scan of my mind, and found that the only memory I actually have is that someone at the conference said that they saw I wasn't in the room that morning, and then looked around to see if there was a bomb. My memory probably was incorrect in terms of substituting fire for bomb

Re: [agi] poll: what do you look for when joining an AGI group?

2007-06-04 Thread Jean-Paul Van Belle
Synergy or win-win between my work and the project i.e. if the project dovetails with what I am doing (or has a better approach). This would require some overlap between the project's architecture and mine. This would also require a clear vision and explicit 'clues' about deliverables/modules

Re: [agi] poll: what do you look for when joining an AGI group?

2007-06-04 Thread Mark Waser
provided that I thought they weren't just going to take my code and apply some licence which meant I could no longer use it in the future.. I suspect that I wasn't clear about this . . . . You can always take what is truly your code and do anything you want with it . . . . The problems start

Re: [agi] poll: what do you look for when joining an AGI group?

2007-06-04 Thread Mark Waser
but I'm not very convinced that the singularity *will* automatically happen. {IMHO I think the nature of intelligence implies it is not amenable to simple linear scaling - likely not even log-linear I share that guess/semi-informed opinion; however, while that means that I am less

RE: [agi] poll: what do you look for when joining an AGI group?

2007-06-04 Thread Derek Zahn
Mark waser writes: P.S. You missed the time where Eliezer said at Ben's AGI conference that he would sneak out the door before warning others that the room was on fire:-) You people making public progress toward AGI are very brave indeed! I wonder if a time will come when the

Re: [agi] poll: what do you look for when joining an AGI group?

2007-06-04 Thread Bob Mottram
On 04/06/07, Derek Zahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if a time will come when the personal security of AGI researchers or conferences will be a real concern. Stopping AGI could be a high priority for existential-risk wingnuts. I think this is the view put forward by Hugo De Garis. I

Re: [agi] poll: what do you look for when joining an AGI group?

2007-06-04 Thread David Hart
On 6/5/07, Bob Mottram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this is the view put forward by Hugo De Garis. I used to regard his views as little more than an amusing sci-fi plot, but more recently I am slowly coming around to the view that there could emerge a rift between those who want to build

Re: [agi] poll: what do you look for when joining an AGI group?

2007-06-04 Thread Eliezer S. Yudkowsky
Mark Waser wrote: P.S. You missed the time where Eliezer said at Ben's AGI conference that he would sneak out the door before warning others that the room was on fire:-) This absolutely never happened. I absolutely do not say such things, even as a joke, because I understand the

Re: [agi] poll: what do you look for when joining an AGI group?

2007-06-03 Thread Eliezer S. Yudkowsky
Clues. Plural. -- Eliezer S. Yudkowsky http://singinst.org/ Research Fellow, Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to:

Re: [agi] poll: what do you look for when joining an AGI group?

2007-06-03 Thread Benjamin Goertzel
The most important thing by far is having an AGI design that seems feasible. Only after that (very difficult) requirement is met, do any of the others matter. -- Ben G On 6/3/07, YKY (Yan King Yin) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can people rate the following things? 1. quick $$, ie salary 2.

Re: [agi] poll: what do you look for when joining an AGI group?

2007-06-03 Thread Mark Waser
important -- 6 which would necessarily include 8 and 9 potentially important -- 10 (average level is a poor gauge, if there are sufficient highly-expert/superstar people you can afford an equal number of relatively non-expert people, if you don't have any real superstars, you're dead in the

Re: [agi] poll: what do you look for when joining an AGI group?

2007-06-03 Thread justin corwin
My reasons for joining a2i2 could only be expressed as subportions of 6 and 8 (possibly 9 and 4). I joined largely on the strength of my impression of Peter. My interest in employment was to work as closely as possible on general artificial intelligence, and he wanted me to work for him on

Re: [agi] poll: what do you look for when joining an AGI group?

2007-06-03 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- YKY (Yan King Yin) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can people rate the following things? 1. quick $$, ie salary 2. long-term $$, ie shares in a successful corp 3. freedom to do what they want 4. fairness 5. friendly friends 6. the project looks like a winner overall 7. knowing that the