Re: [agi] Comments from a lurker...

2008-04-16 Thread Benjamin Johnston
Steve Richfield said (regarding his Dr Eliza system): I cannot see ANY argument that it is NOT novel AI. Certainly no one expressed any such doubts at the WORLDCOMP conferences where it was presented and demonstrated. Maybe, but WORLDCOMP doesn't appear to be a particularly serious

Re: [agi] Comments from a lurker...

2008-04-16 Thread Steve Richfield
Ben, On 4/16/08, Benjamin Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Richfield said (regarding his Dr Eliza system): I cannot see ANY argument that it is NOT novel AI. Certainly no one expressed any such doubts at the WORLDCOMP conferences where it was presented and demonstrated. Maybe,

Re: [agi] Comments from a lurker...

2008-04-16 Thread Brad Paulsen
Steve Josh, You guys ought to get a kick out of this: http://www.physorg.com:80/news127452360.html. We don't need no stinking gigahertz circuits when we can have terahertz guided-wave circuits. That's 1000 times faster than gigahertz (but, of course, you know that). Based on the terahertz

Re: [agi] Comments from a lurker...

2008-04-16 Thread Vladimir Nesov
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Steve Richfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been discussing this in depth with Mark. I suggest lurking and jumping in at the end if you disagree with Mark's handling. In a nutshell, as I see it, the fundamental departure is in the cause-and-effect chain

Re: [agi] associative processing

2008-04-16 Thread Steve Richfield
Josh, On 4/15/08, J Storrs Hall, PhD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 15 April 2008 07:36:56 pm, Steve Richfield wrote: As I understand things, speed requires low capacitance, which DRAM requires higher capacitance, depending on how often you intend to refresh. However, refresh

RE: [agi] associative processing

2008-04-16 Thread Derek Zahn
Steve Richfield, writing about J Storrs Hall: You sound like the sort that once the things is sort of roughed out, likes to polish it up and make it as good as possible. I don't believe your characterization is accurate. You could start with this well-done book to check that opinion:

Re: [agi] associative processing

2008-04-16 Thread J Storrs Hall, PhD
On Wednesday 16 April 2008 04:15:40 am, Steve Richfield wrote: The problem with every such chip that I have seen is that I need many separate parallel banks of memory per ALU. However, the products out there only offer a single, and sometimes two banks. This might be fun to play with, but

Re: [agi] Comments from a lurker...

2008-04-16 Thread Mark Waser
True, but this is inherent with ALL less than perfectly understood systems and is not in any way peculiar to Dr. Eliza. Extrapolations are inherently hazardous, sometimes without reasonable limit. Correct. Part of the point to AGI is to automatically create knowledge bases that are as

[agi] Sending attachments to the list

2008-04-16 Thread Richard Loosemore
Just a quick reminder about list protocol: if you want to send someone a document (especially a pdf), please remember to send it to their personal email address, rather than send it to the entire list. Or, better yet, make it available on a website. Some of us still collect their mail on a

[agi] An Open Letter to AGI Investors

2008-04-16 Thread Richard Loosemore
I have stuck my neck out and written an Open Letter to AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) Investors on my website at http://susaro.com. All part of a campaign to get this field jumpstarted. Next week I am going to put up a road map for my own development project. Richard Loosemore

[agi] database access fast enough?

2008-04-16 Thread YKY (Yan King Yin)
For those using database systems for AGI, I'm wondering if the data retrieval rate would be a problem. Typically we need to retrieve many nodes from the DB to do inference. The nodes may be scattered around the DB. So it may require *many* disk accesses. My impression is that most DBMS are