In response to below post from Josh Hall:
I am using "Holonic" as Eliezer S. Yudkowsky used in in his LEVELS OF
ORGANIZATION IN GENERAL INTELLIGENCE in which he said
""Holonic" is a useful word to describe the simultaneous application of
reductionism and holism, in which a single quality is simul
On Tuesday 16 October 2007 08:43:23 pm, Edward W. Porter wrote:
> ... holonic pattern matching, ...
Now there's a word you don't hear every day :-) I've always thought of it as
a feature of Arthur Koestler's somewhat poetic ontology of hierarchy. And it
appears to enjoy a minor vogue as a subsp
Josh,
You asked "What do these webs of associations *do*?"
They are the knowledge base overwhich massively parallel hardware
computes. Massive search, holonic pattern matching, spreading activation,
rippling confabulation-like relaxations, thresholding, etc.
Ed Porter
-Original Message---
On Tuesday 16 October 2007 03:24:07 pm, Edward W. Porter wrote:
> AS I SAID ABOVE, I AM THINKING OF LARGE COMPLEX WEBS OF COMPOSITIONAL AND
> GENERALIZATIONAL HIERARCHIES, ASSOCIATIONS, EPISODIC EXPERIENCES, ETC, OF
> SUFFICIENT COMPLEXITY AND DEPTH TO REPRESENT THE EQUIVALENT OF HUMAN WORLD
> KNO
>
>
> > The trivial sense of
> > "semantics" don't apply, and the deeper senses are so vague that they
> > are almost synonymous with grounding.
>
> Completely wrong. Grounding is a fairly shallow concept that falls apart
> as an
> explanation of meaning under fairly moderate scrutiny. Semantics is
RICHARD LOOSEMORE WROTE IN HIS Tue 10/16/2007 9:25 AM POST.
So if someone tries to talk about what the grounding problem is by
defining it in terms of semantics, I start to wonder what they're
putting on their cornflakes in the morning. The trivial sense of
"semantics" don't apply, and the deepe
Josh, your Tue 10/16/2007 8:58 AM post was a very good one. I have just
a few comments in all-caps.
The view I suggest instead is that it's not the symbols per se, but the
machinery that manipulates them, that provides semantics.
MACHINERY WITHOUT REPRESENTATION TO COMPUTE FROM IS OF AS LITTL
On 16/10/2007, John G. Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Part of the reason AI has so much damaged credibility is that over the past
> decades there have always been these predictions that by some year robots
> will be doing this or robots will be doing that. Any idiot can make
> predictions for 20
> From: Jiri Jelinek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [agi] Why roboticists have more fun
>
> Just a quick note: Sex - that's a narrow AI, but Levy reportedly also
> forecasts legalization of marriages with robots by 2050. That would
> probably take AGI and I gues not just "an AGI", but, i
Just a quick note: Sex - that's a narrow AI, but Levy reportedly also
forecasts legalization of marriages with robots by 2050. That would
probably take AGI and I gues not just "an AGI", but, in *many* ways,
very human like AGI. It seems to me that most AGI researchers don't
really target such overa
On Tuesday 16 October 2007 09:24:34 am, Richard Loosemore wrote:
> If I may interject: a lot of confusion in this field occurs when the
> term "semantics" is introduced in a way that implies that it has a clear
> meaning [sic].
"Semantics" does have a clear meaning, particularly in linguisti
RL:Just because System 2 did
not acquire its own knowledge from its own personal experience would not
be good grounds [sorry] for saying it is not grounded.
How can it test its knowledge, and ongoing inferences? AGI - human and
animal GI - is continual self-questioning and testing. What IS the m
Edward W. Porter wrote:
This is in response to Josh Storrs Monday, October 15, 2007 3:02 PM
post and Richard Loosemore’s Mon 10/15/2007 1:57 PM post.
I mis-understood you, Josh. I thought you were saying semantics could
be a type of grounding. It appears you were saying that grounding
requ
On Monday 15 October 2007 04:45:22 pm, Edward W. Porter wrote:
> I mis-understood you, Josh. I thought you were saying semantics could be
> a type of grounding. It appears you were saying that grounding requires
> direct experience, but that grounding is only one (although perhaps the
> best) pos
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