Re: [agi] organising parallel processes

2008-05-11 Thread wannabe
And I'd also like to thank Brad for pointing out Skype's API, as I've also being wanting to use a VOIP platform for speech processing and communication. I don't know if Steve is going to end up using it, but it's nice to hear about a useful platform like this. andi Quoting Stephen Reed <[E

Re: [agi] organising parallel processes

2008-05-11 Thread Stephen Reed
Hi Brad, I am interested in Skype of course as a VOIP provider for me personally. I have just re-installed the client to chat with a potential collaborator. You propose Skype as a communications backbone for Texai that solves all the problems I foresee with getting past ISPs and home DSL/cabl

Re: [agi] organising parallel processes

2008-05-11 Thread Brad Paulsen
Steve, This may be a naive question, but have you considered using Skype as a P2P mechanism? The Skype User Agent (UA) software has been downloaded 100's of millions of times and the average number of users on-line at any given time is in the 8-11 million range. Skype publishes a (free) API

Re: Newcomb's Paradox (was Re: [agi] Goal Driven Systems and AI Dangers)

2008-05-11 Thread Vladimir Nesov
On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Matt Mahoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So let me restate my claim. We say that P simulates Q if for all x, > P((Q,x)) = Q(x). We say P is general purpose if there exists Q and R such > that P simulates both, and there is an x such that Q(x) != R(x) (i.e. Q >

Re: Newcomb's Paradox (was Re: [agi] Goal Driven Systems and AI Dangers)

2008-05-11 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- Vladimir Nesov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Matt Mahoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > If a machine P could simulate two other machines Q and R (each with n > bits > > of memory), then P needs n+1 bits, n to reproduce all the states of Q > or > > R, and

Re: Newcomb's Paradox (was Re: [agi] Goal Driven Systems and AI Dangers)

2008-05-11 Thread Vladimir Nesov
On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Matt Mahoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If a machine P could simulate two other machines Q and R (each with n bits > of memory), then P needs n+1 bits, n to reproduce all the states of Q or > R, and 1 to remember which machine it is simulating. You described a

Re: Newcomb's Paradox (was Re: [agi] Goal Driven Systems and AI Dangers)

2008-05-11 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- Vladimir Nesov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 4:06 AM, Matt Mahoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > Yes, but in this case the input to P is not (P,y), it is a self > reference > > to whatever program P is running plus y. > > > > It's irrelevant, because descrip

Re: [agi] Self-maintaining Architecture first for AI

2008-05-11 Thread Russell Wallace
On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 7:45 AM, William Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm starting to mod qemu (it is not a straightforward process) to add > capabilities. So if I understand correctly, you're proposing to sandbox candidate programs by running them in their own virtual PC, with their own o

Re: Newcomb's Paradox (was Re: [agi] Goal Driven Systems and AI Dangers)

2008-05-11 Thread Vladimir Nesov
On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 4:06 AM, Matt Mahoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yes, but in this case the input to P is not (P,y), it is a self reference > to whatever program P is running plus y. > It's irrelevant, because description of P (or Q) could've been contained in the prefix that said "si