Re: [agi] How the Brain Represents Abstract Knowledge

2006-07-11 Thread arnoud
. Arnoud --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [agi] How the Brain Represents Abstract Knowledge

2006-06-18 Thread arnoud
be found that fits it. I'm not an expert, but in what I've read the hierarchical structure of the cortex is stressed. Arnoud --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [agi] How the Brain Represents Abstract Knowledge

2006-06-17 Thread arnoud
tables. Maybe for (near-)infinite ones, otherwise forget it. Arnoud To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [agi] How the Brain Represents Abstract Knowledge

2006-06-15 Thread arnoud
seem to only depend on other abstract concepts, and together lead their own life, not tied to/determined by perception/sensation. However, if you would/could trace all the dependencies of any concept you would end up on the perception level. Arnoud On Thursday 15 June 2006 14:20, Ben

Re: [agi] How the Brain Represents Abstract Knowledge

2006-06-14 Thread arnoud
pattern that can be discovered in the input data. In Hawkins' view the concept of abstraction is very much tied to the concept of prediction (and thus causality). Arnoud --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com

Re: [agi] Free will, consciousness and other entertainments

2004-02-23 Thread arnoud
) is that qualia are just what physical processes are in themselves (as opposed to: 'are for us' e.g. modelled with mathematics). Psychology only plays a role beacuse of the fact that human beings are our only entrance to investigate qualia. Bye, Arnoud M --- To unsubscribe, change your

Re: [agi] Complexity of environment of agi agent

2003-09-24 Thread arnoud
is claimed to be able to look further back (1000 steps in stead of just 10 for BPTT). Is anyone familiair with this? Can it be put in the same layering architecture that I am aiming at, i.e. does it have an abstraction state? Bye, Arnoud --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily

Re: [agi] Complexity of environment of agi agent

2003-09-22 Thread arnoud
). The input of the top level will be the cause of many different sequences. This method seems to me to make long term planning possible in feasibly compressible environments in general terms. The longer the term of planning the less precise (more abstract) a plan can be stated. Arnoud Michel

Re: [agi] Complexity of environment of agi agent

2003-09-20 Thread arnoud
Hi Shane, On Friday 19 September 2003 02:58, Shane Legg wrote: arnoud wrote: How large can those constants be? How complex may the environment be maximally for an ideal, but still realistic, agi agent (thus not a solomonof or AIXI agent) to be still succesful? Does somebody know how

Re: [agi] Complexity of environment of agi agent

2003-09-20 Thread arnoud
with my recent mails of talk about storing patterns. In a way it does, that but not explicitely. It stores a mechanism how to extent a perceived sequence, i.e. predict the next step. Hoi, Arnoud --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please

Re: [agi] Web Consciousness and self consciousness

2003-09-15 Thread arnoud
, photons Arnoud --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [agi] Web Consciousness and self consciousness

2003-09-14 Thread arnoud
to be far inferior, like mysticism, folk psychology, phenomenology. Where's the incoherence, the tendency to degrade in postmodern pragmatists? Bye, Arnoud --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/[EMAIL

Re: [agi] Web Consciousness and self consciousness

2003-09-10 Thread arnoud
' are argued to have objective meanings. W.: 'Internal events must have external criteria'. The evidence for pain is pain behaviour, to desire something is to act to get that something, etc. Arnoud --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please

Re: [agi] Web Consciousness and self consciousness

2003-09-10 Thread arnoud
Philosophical Investigations, Ryle's Concept of Mind, Dennett, Davidson etc. Arnoud --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [agi] Web Consciousness and self consciousness

2003-09-08 Thread arnoud
' a new meaning, one that I can be realist (the physical level) about and not just instrumentalist (the personal level and intentional stance level). Arnoud (see also chapter 10 of 'Mind brain quantum' of Lockwood, forget about the rest) --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily

Re: [agi] Web Consciousness and self consciousness

2003-09-07 Thread arnoud
of qualia, like Dennett, is making it yourself very easy, but you don't get the full ontological picture. (And there is a solution to fit qualia in a physicalistic world view) Arnoud --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2

Re: [agi] Web Consciousness and self consciousness

2003-09-07 Thread arnoud
On Sunday 07 September 2003 10:46, Jef Allbright wrote: Jef wrote: Arnoud, it appears there is agreement that qualia exist -- as a very real illusion. The problem of qualia, however, seems to be the question of how to represent/implement qualia in a thinking machine (assuming this must

Re: [agi] request for feedback

2003-08-14 Thread arnoud
On Wednesday 06 August 2003 14:59, deering wrote: Arnoud, I don't know how much help this will be considering I am an amateur, like you. Your AGI system looks good to me. I think we will find, in time, that many different approaches to AGI will work, though some may be more efficient than

[agi] request for feedback

2003-08-06 Thread arnoud
...a hunter-gatherer. But I know too much to do that. Met vriendelijke groet, bij voorbaat dank, Arnoud Michel --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/[EMAIL PROTECTED]