RE: [agi] Thinking may be overrated.

2002-12-30 Thread Ben Goertzel
Kevin Copple wrote: > I do not want to say that random trial and error is the ultimate form of > intelligent thought. Far from it. But given what nature and > humankind have > achieved with it to date, and that we may not even recognize the extent to > which it is involved in our own thought, i

RE: [agi] Thinking may be overrated.

2002-12-30 Thread Bill Hibbard
Hi Kevin, "Trial and error" describes an approach to learning, and I think the issue you are getting at is that thinking (i.e., reasoning and planning) must be grounded in learning, in the same way that symbols must be grounded in sensory experience. This can be understood in terms of the general

RE: [agi] Thinking may be overrated.

2002-12-29 Thread Kevin Copple
Ben Goertzel wrote: > Traditional logic-based AI has badly underemphasized the role of trial and >error, but I'm afraid you're swinging to the opposite extreme !! It has been said that it is easier to bring a wild idea under control than to give life into a lame idea, so considering an extreme pos

RE: [agi] Thinking may be overrated.

2002-12-29 Thread Ben Goertzel
Kevin Copple wrote: > "Thinking" in humans, much like genetic evolution, seems to involve > predominately trial and error. Even the "logic" we like to use is more > often than not faulty, but can lead us to try something different. And > example of popular logic that is invariably faulty is reas