Little robot walking along, it works it out itself, I just tell it where to
head.
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Looking 3 moves ahead in chess, counts for a lot more than looking 3 moves
ahead if your walking down the street. =D
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I think its a good thing, need diversity, otherwise things get a little drab
and over discussed.
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I need a better physics engine DAMMIT!!!
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Thanks Keghen! =D u 2!
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Nice slides... thanks for the help ill tip you from where I sit.
Yes the search, is a nice alternative for the ai problem, but its too
expensive, and for some reason no-one has a quantum computer yet. If you
did have NP power tho, theres 3 more problems as I see it.
a) You must have a mod
I think I should be able to do it now. But the program has an extreme bug in
it! I dont know what happened but its behaving illogically, and I dont know
the cause...
Once I get it done, I think this machine will run and walk with a different
gait! Ill give it 2 more hours rest, then w
Groundbreaking stuff!! :)
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hahhahahahha u must know fuckall about ai.
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TRAITOR!!
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Ill join your group. but I have my own projects, we can help each other.
here is my presentation portfolio (only 1 thing) just to let you know i am
crazy about ai...
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A.I. is a pretty zany thing to get running, maybe it helps to be a crackpot,
means ull be successful. :)
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I have this new alternative to genetic algorythms. Chaining monkeys to
typewriters! Given enough - I can always get the right answer.
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yes. its how amazing "deep learning" actually is. :P
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no. i am against such amoral practices. I just stick with information
technology, take me all the way already.
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Its hard to tell if someone's theory is good or not. You just have to know,
or you wouldn't have a clue. But I spose you opting to be skeptical, is a
type of ignorant reaction indeed.
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I think neural nets have to think LESS like humans. just get the job done,
nature is a time wasting inefficiency, you dont need it AT ALL.
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Not walking yet, but ive upgraded my system for meshes of thickness plus
tendons instead of rotations and hopefully the system will work better all
round with less code.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yIhHlI_MiE&feature=youtu.be
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the brain has to deal with LOTS of hidden variables.
Thats why it MUST be approximate - because a computer trying to simulate
everything in detail is ALSO impossible! So the real ai, artificial even,
still needs to be approximate, but also true.
If you were to simulate a car running, you have
The tendon system is nearly working now, but its still bugged, but u can see
it shrinking and expanding on the pink areas, and its due to these changing
length, that it should work along. this way is better because the system is
less commands its a simpler idea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch
Tendon based robbers are indeed soft-body, it looks like a jelly fish.
Ok, a bit more work. all the dims are pulsating when I toggle all the
tendons, but for some reason when the search is on, one of the knees goes into
remission.
That's just a side problem, the main problem here is when the
haha My theory is going fine. goes to show WE ARE NOT EQUAL.
we are sorrounded by goofballs. hhehehe
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ah get a taste of some nasty, dont be a wuss.
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great talk. yeh now we know none of us know how to do it. :)
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Sorry for being a random and rude, ill shut it up
But I just want to say the answer to AGI is not difficult, and markov chains,
genetic algorythms and computer vision put together will work, ppl just have
to wake up and realize weve already got what we need.
Sorry if im one of the random idiots you were talking about, but I have
something to say.
Im with you on the get the dumb stuff right first. And getting tiggly puff
waving his arms like a monkey is a great beginning, and maybe theorizing beyond
this without a working implementation of at least
This is "behavioral cloning" in open ai, where the computer records your
gameplay up against a set of possible causes, then can play you back. It is
possible to do, but as for consciousness transfer, it is but a soulless copy.
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Doing your work with an api, in such a new field as a.i. is going to handicap
you from doing anything new.
Do your programming from scratch, you can do it any programming language,
just the basic outline is all you need for an implementation, but u do need
programming experience, more year
I have a possibly working theory too, Stefan, Its a basic menial labour slave,
It revolves around a value state system, its like a flow chart that tells the
robot where to go next, getting visualization id's off my computer vision
system, scoring a motor search, which feels its way around 3 sp
50's perceptrons were super parallel mega beats. love.
And yes, I saw Ben Goerztels post, I am going to be quiet now. So he can see
my writing? I better be careful not to make a complete idiot of myself! :)
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if you cant beat the computer what the hell are u even doing there with ppls
lives at stake... oh wait... we are in india. XD
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factors are important, but symbology has a strength where its known to be true
without detail.
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I mean you can make a symbolic system without factors, but I guess you could
have factors but it would be in the form of a weighting of a symbol, like
"strength=6" but without the 6, its purely only boolean algebra, not algebra.
And it works without the 6 too, is all I mean.
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I dont want to stop this amazing imagination of yours. But I must warn you
ockhams razor is there to dismiss ideas on the outset, and maybe simplistic
weighting is all there is to it. You dont always need a factor, when the
symbol itself already deals out the full picture.
Ive got one for you.
You can actually make the computer spit out strings of text, and it can even
reply to what you say, but that involves not looking at the content of the
strings.
Word ai, would have to actually produce something from the content itself,
even if it was just more patterns to
yes that makes mature sense. Im pretty much isolating myself, but I dont mind.
Ill help as much as I can from here, if I know something I might be able to
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AGI has a 0 digit price tag I think, you just have to know how it works.
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Ok, sorry about that misunderstanding.
You need to form the model of the of the working area of the a.i. , its true
for us all, but how you do it, is what makes what your doing original.
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that was so funny keg when you said that :)
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love what u said. motivation is the true riches... if only i could work that
hard!
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it runs on a shoe string.
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you know whats holding you back the most? it are not money, it are not
co-workers.
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Yes keghn, you go to maximize the function, is the current going style.
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Stefan Reich has a point where he says the language doesnt matter... but
taking everyones opinions into account you never know they might make a
difference, i havent thought about it enough.
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Thats ok mate, gotta love camels!!!
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ha, watch out, theories can catch on whether you like it or not. :)
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Thats really interesting Mr. Richfield, id love to hear more about it and what
it could be clues for.
Stuff working in the field (Like open ai) is still just based apon dumb
mutation, they have this novelty search that would entail the robot doing
everything just because its new. If that was
Lovely read. Im with Mahoney on this one, Quantum computers CANT exist, and
the agi if they make it, is not going to defunct the true animal brain.
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In chess, ppl can still keep up with the perfect game, because the better the
computer plays, in a way it makes it more obvious what its going to do.
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It seems that if you have an ai system running, you can attempt to solve
captchas with it, you have audio, text, vision , but i dont know if there is
some generic solution... the generic solution is some kind of new ai system.
The a.i. we make is an artificial brain, so it makes sense that u can
Hey Reich - if you can do that it might be important. get back to us if you
manage to solve it plz.
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Doing things over time isnt mandatory, x and y on your graph could be any
metric under the sun, yes.
Have you looked at expert systems before? They are a kind of symbolic logic
machine, where you break the problem up into constituent parts, and
presenting it with some information, and a g
I can understand what your saying to a degree.
Indeed if you trained a label "cat jumped out of the box" directly, its not the
same as understanding cat, jump and box separately - which is alot more
successful/invarient/reusable?
The way you say this a "mathematics" problem, was alien to me, henc
This probably sounds stupid but..
With the generation idea, about getting the a.i. to develop images from an
algebraic model. It has a problem where the output is no longer symbolic (its
pictures) I wonder it might be easier for the computer to describe it in words
as if it was a picture... s
Maybe the database doesnt have to be that big, to do a lot. I know that when
one thinks of AGI he thinks of some great ginormous load of information, but
im just saying maybe small things could go really far as well.
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You can actually set up boolean algebra that solves all sorts of tasks, making
it develop the structures itself would be more closer to real agi, but it
would still be quite effective setting it up for it, old school style.
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Just imagine how boring it is to do the dishes. programming it is probably
more boring. But we are grownups, we are boring, so it suits us to do it. :)
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Yeh Steve - maybe that helps it try novel situations better???
newsflash from me -> i think that formalizing the system manually ends up a
shallower system than what needs to be there for a developing system.
because its cheating it to do things, is it where the term "deep learning"
comes f
If you give yourself infinite computation power an exponential brute force
search of physics engine logic, contains all methods that exist in the
environment, as long as it only involved still objects, which were simulated
correctly, according to some primary mover. I was wonder if taking it
This could be an alternative to mutation, who wouldnt want to skip past having
all that pesky trial time.
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you dont need open cv if you can code it yourself.
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Wow youve got agi already? amazing!
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If ur solution is valid, you dont need approval to get it going. Theres no
more understandable results than actually having the a.i. in action!
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you sound like you need something more than just random attenuation for
learning. :)
Your space-temporal rotation idea, sounds like geometric invarience for an
advanced computer vision system.
And my opinion is even if we had a more advanced "symbolic structure" or
whatever thats building inst
I think it would build up slowly over time, it cant solve problems that are
too far away from what it already knows, it has to relate to what its got in
it, for more relations to develop. So in that way it would hit "temporary
local optimas" and maybe even some form of cause and effect diagn
The learning method is only as good as how much better it is than basic
mutation type learning, which I think actually it sounds like it wins in a
logged fashion... by a heap. :)
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Yeh Hebbian learning might be a means towards an unknown end, and if its us,
its going to be pretty amazing.
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Theres nothing wrong with the state of the art, and there never has been.
The technology works. I think what we are lacking is a integration of the
technologys into the working machine. computer vision, symbolic ai, brute
force search, all together used in unison should work.
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This oscillator has no transistor in it, it is 2 caps and the rest is
resistor balancing, and the bastard is f'n hard to start up! I was there for
half an hour before i got it to buzz at around 10hz. This is my video proof to
myself just so I know the bloody thing even works at all!
https
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOWTGmeCG68 heres a better video, i worked
out if i increase delay each time i tap back on the battery it starts purring
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Haha you brightened my day.
Id get myself kicked off 100% of the electronics forums on the internet if I
said the next thing I want to do is amplify with only resistors and
capacitors But since this is an AGI space I think ppl get away with more
zanier ideas.
Your right about the leaky c
just wait three hours, and ill go jog off to the shop and get some led's, and
itll make it easier to see.
Just to clear something up->
The "speaker" on it currently actually has an oscillator on it, but mine is
making it double oscillate, its when it sounds like a cricket, is when its
doub
so just be patient, ill be back with some more visible videos of it, and i
might point and poke at it so you can get a better idea.
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https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi its dc.
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mexican fire cracker
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ycdfkkZlZQ i mean
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evolutionaries and connectionists and symbolism can be done as one, in my mind.
the more i learn, the more everything becomes the same. it is such a boring
useless existance being that way.
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Why do gpus have 2048 cores when they should have 2048x2048.
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I think they need to be translated, like the rosetta stone.
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woah 5000, thats not anywhere near 4 million. And I think they can make 4
million cards but they keep them a secret.
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Machines today only want what we make them want, only we truly want things,
so if you want AGI you need to create something with a true purpose, not an
artificial one.
I think any more than narrow a.i. is blowing it out of superfluous proportions,
and we need something more important to do
Does the goverment have a strangehold on nuclear weapons - you have to try and
learn it to find out if they lock u up in a 6 foot cube or not.
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Its a cool idea if you can make a game a computer cant play... its like a
"captcha" but if you make a mistake the computer actually can, and u have to
come up with another idea. :)
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Just imagine in the future giving the smash and grab technique self driving
cars to do it. seems like a good idea!!!
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Mohammud is a monkey. =CD
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a neural network is basicly the same thing as markov chains. if on the input
of a feedforward perceptron you have the pattern of text, and on the output
end you have the next letter, its doing exactly the same thing.
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woah, now were going crazy!
I didnt mean that much, all i meant was about a 5 letter input (a-z)-5 nuerons
a lettah, mesh to about 5 neurons*1 meg internal patterns to give me a 1 letter
output (a-z) 5 neurons a lettah, get your redskin.
Get a good near match on this sucker, probably start resp
So... i'm at the point now ive got my artificial neural network system how I
like it... But I need a method to train it on.
So, I thought - wot tha hay - lets get it emulating a physics engine.
But then just the thought of 100 complex pendulums spinning around rattling
into each other and bou
90% of the indians live in the mud, the rest of them had their house built by
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To my mind, this is the computer vision, which is going to spark your symbolic
relations.
Segmentation, if you colour your segments of some video, if you make everyone
simpsons colours, it looks like "the real simpsons" its potentially
halarious. :)
How is your ai going Stefan - are u stil
Good to here u still sound like your on top of things.
I think theres no need for bad confidence, theres going to be a simple
solution for this singularity business.
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Dont forget, we need DNA samples as well to go with your amazing theories. :)
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if you have a 3d camera, segmentation is even easier. its not even really
machine learning, its just filters.
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Delive
Matt Mahoney I have an argument against that, computer vision ends before
symbolic relations start.
Your saying that your eye invents jokes with what it sees, I say no, the
vision just classifies the visible aspect alone.
The rest of the derivation of the eye is the rest of the brain.
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Yep. labels first, actual understanding later on.
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