Re: AW: [agi] How general can be and should be AGI?

2008-05-02 Thread Charles D Hixson
Mike Tintner wrote: Charles: Flaws in Hamlet: I don't think of this as involving general intelligence. Specialized intelligence, yes, but if you see general intelligence at work there you'll need to be more explicit for me to understand what you mean. Now determining whether a particular

AW: AW: AW: [agi] How general can be and should be AGI?

2008-05-02 Thread Dr. Matthias Heger
Matt Mahoney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Object oriented programming is good for organizing software but I don't think for organizing human knowledge. It is a very rough approximation. We have used O-O for designing ontologies and expert systems (IS-A links, etc), but this approach does

Re: [agi] Interesting HYPED approach to controlling animated characters...

2008-05-02 Thread Alex J. Champandard
The only thing to learn from here is the way they managed to build hype around their technology. Possibly appropriate here :-) Technology wise, we're talking Lua state machines, genetic algorithms that are manually tweaked for every special case. The resulting neural nets are pretty much

Re: AW: [agi] How general can be and should be AGI?

2008-05-02 Thread Mike Tintner
Charles, We're still a few million miles apart :). But perhaps we can focus on something constructive here. On the one hand, while, yes, I'm talking about extremely sophisticated behaviour in essaywriting, it has generalizable features that characterise all life. (And I think BTW that a dog

RE: [agi] help me,please for books for agi and mind in pdf

2008-05-02 Thread Derek Zahn
Bruno Frandemiche asked for online AGI-related text. If you're adventurous, I'd recommend the Workshop proceedings from 2006: http://www.agiri.org/wiki/Workshop_Proceedings and the conference proceedings from AGI-08: http://www.agi-08.org/papers ---

Re: [agi] upcoming oral at Princeton

2008-05-02 Thread Bob Mottram
My guess would be that this kind of approach will only be partly successful, since fundamentally it's only based upon an elaborate kind of 2D template matching. I think what actually happens is that during early childhood experience we are able to statistically correlate certain types of geometry

[agi] Panda: a pattern-based programming system

2008-05-02 Thread Brad Paulsen
Readers of these lists might enjoy the refereed paper Overview of the Panda Programming System (http://www.jot.fm:80/issues/issue_2008_05/article1/) described in the following abstract: This article provides an overview of a pattern-based programming system, named Panda, for automatic

Re: [agi] upcoming oral at Princeton

2008-05-02 Thread Stephen Reed
Hi Josh, I briefly looked at the ImageNet description at the Princeton WordNet site. It does not reveal whether the images are open source to the extent this new data can be linked and distributed with WordNet, which has a very permissive license. -Steve Stephen L. Reed Artificial

Re : [agi] help me,please for books for agi and mind in pdf

2008-05-02 Thread Bruno Frandemiche
thank you derek i was reading all this bye - Message d'origine De : Derek Zahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] À : agi@v2.listbox.com Envoyé le : Vendredi, 2 Mai 2008, 15h18mn 09s Objet : RE: [agi] help me,please for books for agi and mind in pdf Bruno Frandemiche asked for online AGI-related text.  

Language learning (was Re: AW: AW: AW: AW: [agi] How general can be and should be AGI?)

2008-05-02 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- Dr. Matthias Heger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt Mahoney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Actually that's only true in artificial languages. Children learn words with semantic content like ball and milk before they learn function words like the and of, in spite of their higher

Re: [agi] Panda: a pattern-based programming system

2008-05-02 Thread Daniel Allen
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AW: Language learning (was Re: AW: AW: AW: AW: [agi] How general can be and should be AGI?)

2008-05-02 Thread Dr. Matthias Heger
Matt Mahoney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote eat(Food f) eat(Food f, ListSideDish l) eat (Food f, ListTool l) eat (Food f, ListPeople l) ... This type of knowledge representation has been tried and it leads to a morass of rules and no intuition on how children learn grammar. We do not

[agi] Re: AW: Language learning

2008-05-02 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- Dr. Matthias Heger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So the medium layers of AGI will be the most difficult layers. I think if you try to integrate a structured or O-O knowledge base at the top and a signal processing or neural perceptual/motor system at the bottom, then you are right. We can do a

AW: [agi] Re: AW: Language learning

2008-05-02 Thread Dr. Matthias Heger
I think it is even more complicated. The flow of signals in the brain does not move only from low levels to high levels. The modules communicate in both directions. And as far as I know there is already evidence for this from cognitive science. If you want to recognize objects in pictures you