Re: [agi] Spatial Reasoning: Modal or Amodal?

2002-11-01 Thread C. David Noziglia
also know that they have flaws. We don't know either thing about other models; whe simply have to find out. C. David Noziglia Object Sciences Corporation 6359 Walker Lane, Alexandria, VA (703) 253-1095 "What is true and what is not? Only God knows. And, mayb

Re: [agi] Spatial Reasoning: Modal or Amodal?

2002-11-04 Thread C. David Noziglia
> -- Ben G wrote > > > > I think there will come a time -- possibly in a couple years -- when gov't > and industry value AGI and loads of money comes AGI's way. But that will be > *after* someone (potentially my own Novamente team) demonstrates dramatic > progress toward human-level AGI, in a publ

Re: [agi] RE: Ethical drift

2002-11-05 Thread C. David Noziglia
C. David Noziglia Object Sciences Corporation 6359 Walker Lane, Alexandria, VA (703) 253-1095 "What is true and what is not? Only God knows. And, maybe, America." Dr. Khaled M. Batarfi, Special to Arab News "Just because something is

[agi] A point of philosophy, rather than engineering

2002-11-11 Thread C. David Noziglia
responded with such grace have only yourselves to blame for encouraging me. The point of the above, however, may simply be that you are getting ahead of yourselves in even arguing about the validity of AGI. It isn't valid, it doesn't exist, and going after it is a perfectly valid and p

Re: [agi] A point of philosophy, rather than engineering

2002-11-11 Thread C. David Noziglia
> I do not expect these brief philosophical musings to be convincing to > anyone. I give them here mostly just to point out that this is something > I've thought about deeply, something I think that is important. If I > disagree with you, Paul, Penrose etc., it is not because I haven't reflected

Re: [agi] Friendliness toward humans

2003-01-09 Thread C. David Noziglia
ws that could some day be overwritten. C. David Noziglia Object Sciences Corporation 6359 Walker Lane, Alexandria, VA (703) 253-1095 "What is true and what is not? Only God knows. And, maybe, America." Dr. Khaled M. Batarfi, Special to Arab News

Re: [agi] Friendliness toward humans

2003-01-09 Thread C. David Noziglia
ss of "internalizing" vs. "hard-wiring" benevolence in our future AGI masters. C. David Noziglia Object Sciences Corporation 6359 Walker Lane, Alexandria, VA (703) 253-1095 "What is true and what is not? Only God knows. And, maybe, America."

Re: [agi] Friendliness toward humans

2003-01-09 Thread C. David Noziglia
d just WHERE do you see evidence of intelligence? C. David Noziglia Object Sciences Corporation 6359 Walker Lane, Alexandria, VA (703) 253-1095 "What is true and what is not? Only God knows. And, maybe, America." Dr. Khaled M. Batarfi, Special to Arab

Re: [agi] Friendliness toward humans

2003-01-09 Thread C. David Noziglia
vior strategies/patterns that, on the whole, not universally, worked better than the alternatives that were available. Self-preservation is one of them. C. David Noziglia Object Sciences Corporation 6359 Walker Lane, Alexandria, VA (703) 253-1095 "What is true and what is not? Only God kn

Re: [agi] AGI's sense of self

2003-01-10 Thread C. David Noziglia
s. These are two different things, often confused in literature but not to be confused in your work. C. David Noziglia Object Sciences Corporation 6359 Walker Lane, Alexandria, VA (703) 253-1095 "What is true and what is not? Only God knows. And, maybe, America."

Re: [agi] The Next Wave

2003-01-10 Thread C. David Noziglia
views that such a thing isn't possible, and would like to debate that issue, among others. C. David Noziglia Object Sciences Corporation 6359 Walker Lane, Alexandria, VA (703) 253-1095 "What is true and what is not? Only God knows. And, maybe, America."

Re: [agi] Jane

2003-01-21 Thread C. David Noziglia
cosmodelia:   Perhaps the most interesting recent (relatively) novels featuring IA, with a healthy dose of warning about the dangers of the said tech, is the long, but definitely worth reading, four-book set by Dan Simmons: /Hyperion, The Fall of Hyperion, Endymion, and The Rise of Endymion\

[agi] New Virus

2003-02-06 Thread C. David Noziglia
  C. David NozigliaObject Sciences Corporation6359 Walker Lane, Alexandria, VA(703) 253-1095       "What is true and what is not? Only God knows. And, maybe, America."  Dr. Khaled M. Batarfi, Special to Arab News       "Just because something is obvious doesn'

[agi] Fw: New Virus

2003-02-06 Thread C. David Noziglia
A virus has been passed on to me by a contact. My address book has in turn been affected.  Since you are in my address book there is a good chance you will find it in your computer too. I followed the direction below and eradicated the virus easily. The virus ( called jdbgmgr.exe) is not det

[agi] Fw: Virus Hoax

2003-02-06 Thread C. David Noziglia
the hoax: C. David Noziglia Object Sciences Corporation 6359 Walker Lane, Alexandria, VA (703) 253-1095 "What is true and what is not? Only God knows. And, maybe, America." Dr. Khaled M. Batarfi, Special to Arab News "Just because somet

Re: [agi] AGI morality

2003-02-11 Thread C. David Noziglia
e that the next step is not AGI alone, but a partnership between carbon- and silicon-based intelligences. That said, the partner far more likely to screw up that relationship is the carbon-based one. C. David Noziglia Object Sciences Corporation 6359 Walker Lane, Alexandria, VA (703) 253-1095 &

Re: [agi] AI Morality -- a hopeless quest

2003-02-12 Thread C. David Noziglia
- Original Message - From: Philip Sutton To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [agi] AI Morality -- a hopeless quest Brad, Maybe what you said below is the key to friendly GAI > I don't think any human a

Re: [agi] Reply to Bill Hubbard's post: Mon, 10 Feb 2003

2003-02-14 Thread C. David Noziglia
one planet, with all its "eggs" in one basket. But changing that is going to be even harder than getting the Shuttle to be reliable. C. David Noziglia Object Sciences Corporation 6359 Walker Lane, Alexandria, VA (703) 253-1095 "What is true and what is not? Only God knows. And, mayb

Re: [agi] more interesting stuff

2003-02-25 Thread C. David Noziglia
formation growth -- by the measure or at the behest of all the processes mentioned earlier -- defines the arrow of time that is left without direction in a purely deterministic universe. P.S.: That's one reason, by the way, that we can't build, even theoretically, an AGI capable of holding al

Re: [agi] really cool

2003-02-25 Thread C. David Noziglia
Are you using an IP phone on your office network?  Or a DSL connection at home? Those would be less general, and less cool, than Ben's suggestion.   C. David NozigliaObject Sciences Corporation6359 Walker Lane, Alexandria, VA(703) 253-1095       "What is true and what is not? Only God knows.

Re: [agi] Playing with fire

2003-03-04 Thread C. David Noziglia
to believe that a silicon/carbon symbiosis might constitute the next punctuated advance in evolution? Not that we're thinking small, here. C. David Noziglia Object Sciences Corporation 6359 Walker Lane, Alexandria, VA (703) 253-1095 "What is true and what is not? Only God knows.

Re: [agi] Playing with fire

2003-03-04 Thread C. David Noziglia
yborg entity (let's ignore the techno-phobic Star Trek image thereof). Individuality -- maybe -- will be maintained. C. David Noziglia Object Sciences Corporation 6359 Walker Lane, Alexandria, VA (703) 253-1095 "What is true and what is not? Only God knows. And,