Re: [agi] Nao Nao

[Sergio Valcarcel]

What's needed here is a standardized robot communication protocol.
I completely agree. And up to some point, I think it is already on the
way... I have already seen the middleware ZeroC Ice running even in a really
tiny PIC of Microchip (
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/wcm.545/pdf).

Sergio


On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:17 PM, John G. Rose wrote:

> Typically the demo is some of the best that it can do. It looks like the
> robot is a mass produced model that has some really basic handling
> capabilities, not that it is made to perform work. It could still have
> relatively advanced microprocessor and networking system, IOW parts of the
> brain could run on centralized servers. I don't think they did that BUT it
> could.
>
>
>
> But it looks like one Nao can talk to another Nao. What's needed here is a
> standardized robot communication protocol. So a Nao could talk to a vacuum
> cleaner or a video cam or any other device that supports the protocol.
> Companies may resist this at first as they want to grab market share and
> don't understand the benefit.
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
> *From:* Mike Tintner [mailto:tint...@blueyonder.co.uk]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 12, 2010 4:56 AM
> *To:* agi
> *Subject:* Re: [agi] Nao Nao
>
>
>
> John,
>
>
>
> Any more detailed thoughts about its precise handling capabilities? Did it,
> first, not pick up the duck independently,  (without human assistance)? If
> it did,  what do you think would be the range of its object handling?  (I
> had an immediate question about all this - have asked the site for further
> clarificiation - but nothing yet).
>
>
>
> *From:* John G. Rose 
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 12, 2010 5:46 AM
>
> *To:* agi 
>
> *Subject:* RE: [agi] Nao Nao
>
>
>
> I wasn't meaning to portray pessimism.
>
>
>
> And that little sucker probably couldn't pick up a knife yet.
>
>
>
> But this is a paradigm change happening where we will have many networked
> mechanical entities. This opens up a whole new world of security and privacy
> issues...
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
> *From:* David Jones [mailto:davidher...@gmail.com]
>
> Way too pessimistic in my opinion.
>
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 7:06 PM, John G. Rose 
> wrote:
>
> Aww, so cute.
>
>
>
> I wonder if it has a Wi-Fi connection, DHCP's an IP address, and relays
> sensory information back to the main servers with all the other Nao's all
> collecting personal data in a massive multi-agent geo-distributed
> robo-network.
>
>
>
> So cuddly!
>
>
>
> And I wonder if it receives and executes commands, commands that come in
> over the network from whatever interested corporation or government pays the
> most for access.
>
>
>
> Such a sweet little friendly Nao. Everyone should get one :)
>
>
>
> John
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RE: [agi] Nao Nao

[John G. Rose]

I suppose that part of the "work" that it does is making people feel good
and being a neat conversation piece.

 

Interoperability and communications protocols can facilitate the path to
AGI. Just like the many protocols used on the internet. I haven't looked at
any for robotics specifically though there definitely are some. But having
worked with many myself I am familiar with limitations, shortcomings and
issues. Protocols is where it's at when making diverse systems work together
and having good protocols initially can save vast amounts of engineering
work. It's bang for the buck in a big way.

 

John


From: Mike Tintner [mailto:tint...@blueyonder.co.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:02 AM
To: agi
Subject: Re: [agi] Nao Nao

 

By not "made to perform work", you mean that it is not sturdy enough? Are
any half-way AGI robots made to perform work, vs production line robots? (I
think the idea of performing useful work should be a goal).

 

The protocol is obviously a good idea, but you're not suggesting it per se
will lead to AGI?

 

From: John G. Rose <mailto:johnr...@polyplexic.com>  

Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 3:17 PM

To: agi <mailto:agi@v2.listbox.com>  

Subject: RE: [agi] Nao Nao

 

Typically the demo is some of the best that it can do. It looks like the
robot is a mass produced model that has some really basic handling
capabilities, not that it is made to perform work. It could still have
relatively advanced microprocessor and networking system, IOW parts of the
brain could run on centralized servers. I don't think they did that BUT it
could.

 

But it looks like one Nao can talk to another Nao. What's needed here is a
standardized robot communication protocol. So a Nao could talk to a vacuum
cleaner or a video cam or any other device that supports the protocol.
Companies may resist this at first as they want to grab market share and
don't understand the benefit.

 

John

 

From: Mike Tintner [mailto:tint...@blueyonder.co.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 4:56 AM
To: agi
Subject: Re: [agi] Nao Nao

 

John,

 

Any more detailed thoughts about its precise handling capabilities? Did it,
first, not pick up the duck independently,  (without human assistance)? If
it did,  what do you think would be the range of its object handling?  (I
had an immediate question about all this - have asked the site for further
clarificiation - but nothing yet).

 

From: John G. Rose <mailto:johnr...@polyplexic.com>  

Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 5:46 AM

To: agi <mailto:agi@v2.listbox.com>  

Subject: RE: [agi] Nao Nao

 

I wasn't meaning to portray pessimism.

 

And that little sucker probably couldn't pick up a knife yet.

 

But this is a paradigm change happening where we will have many networked
mechanical entities. This opens up a whole new world of security and privacy
issues...  

 

John

 

From: David Jones [mailto:davidher...@gmail.com] 

Way too pessimistic in my opinion. 

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 7:06 PM, John G. Rose 
wrote:

Aww, so cute.

 

I wonder if it has a Wi-Fi connection, DHCP's an IP address, and relays
sensory information back to the main servers with all the other Nao's all
collecting personal data in a massive multi-agent geo-distributed
robo-network.

 

So cuddly!

 

And I wonder if it receives and executes commands, commands that come in
over the network from whatever interested corporation or government pays the
most for access.

 

Such a sweet little friendly Nao. Everyone should get one :)

 

John


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Re: [agi] Nao Nao

[Ian Parker]

There is one further point which is absolutely fundamental
in operating system/compiler theory. The user should be unaware of how the
work is divided up. A robot may simply have a WiFi router and very little
else, or it might have considerable on board processing. The user should not
be aware of this.


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Re: [agi] Nao Nao

[Ian Parker]

We are getting down to some of the nitty gritty. To a considerable extent
what is holding robotics back is the lack of common standards. We can think
about what we might need. One would instinctively start with a CAD/CAM
package like ProEngineer. We can thus descibe a robot in terms of assembles
and parts. A single joint is a part, a human finger has 3 joints is an
assembly. A hand is an assembly. We get this by using CAD.

A robotic language has to be composed as follows.

class Part{

}

class Assemble{

}

An assembly/part will have a position. The simplest command is to move from
one position to another. Note that a position is a multidimensional quantity
and describes the positions of each part.

"*Pick up ball*" is a complex command. We first have to localise the ball,
determine the position required to grasp the ball any then put the parts
into a position so that the ball moves into a new position.

Sounds complicated? Yes it is, but a lot of the basic work has already been
done. The first time a task is performed the system would have to compute
from first principles. The second time it would have some stored positions.
The system could "*learn*".

A position is a vector (multidimensional) 2 robots will have twice the
dimensions of a single robot.

"*Move bed upstairs*" is a twin robot problem, but no different in principle
from a single robot problem. Above all I think we must start off
mathematically and construct a language of maximum generality. It should be
pointed out too that there programs which will evaluate forces in a
multi-limb environment. In fact matrix theory was devised in the 19th
century.


  - Ian Parker

On 12 August 2010 15:17, John G. Rose  wrote:

> Typically the demo is some of the best that it can do. It looks like the
> robot is a mass produced model that has some really basic handling
> capabilities, not that it is made to perform work. It could still have
> relatively advanced microprocessor and networking system, IOW parts of the
> brain could run on centralized servers. I don't think they did that BUT it
> could.
>
>
>
> But it looks like one Nao can talk to another Nao. What's needed here is a
> standardized robot communication protocol. So a Nao could talk to a vacuum
> cleaner or a video cam or any other device that supports the protocol.
> Companies may resist this at first as they want to grab market share and
> don't understand the benefit.
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
> *From:* Mike Tintner [mailto:tint...@blueyonder.co.uk]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 12, 2010 4:56 AM
> *To:* agi
> *Subject:* Re: [agi] Nao Nao
>
>
>
> John,
>
>
>
> Any more detailed thoughts about its precise handling capabilities? Did it,
> first, not pick up the duck independently,  (without human assistance)? If
> it did,  what do you think would be the range of its object handling?  (I
> had an immediate question about all this - have asked the site for further
> clarificiation - but nothing yet).
>
>
>
> *From:* John G. Rose 
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 12, 2010 5:46 AM
>
> *To:* agi 
>
> *Subject:* RE: [agi] Nao Nao
>
>
>
> I wasn't meaning to portray pessimism.
>
>
>
> And that little sucker probably couldn't pick up a knife yet.
>
>
>
> But this is a paradigm change happening where we will have many networked
> mechanical entities. This opens up a whole new world of security and privacy
> issues...
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
> *From:* David Jones [mailto:davidher...@gmail.com]
>
> Way too pessimistic in my opinion.
>
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 7:06 PM, John G. Rose 
> wrote:
>
> Aww, so cute.
>
>
>
> I wonder if it has a Wi-Fi connection, DHCP's an IP address, and relays
> sensory information back to the main servers with all the other Nao's all
> collecting personal data in a massive multi-agent geo-distributed
> robo-network.
>
>
>
> So cuddly!
>
>
>
> And I wonder if it receives and executes commands, commands that come in
> over the network from whatever interested corporation or government pays the
> most for access.
>
>
>
> Such a sweet little friendly Nao. Everyone should get one :)
>
>
>
> John
>
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Re: [agi] Nao Nao

[Steve Richfield]

Ian, et al,

2010/8/10 Ian Parker 

>
> A μ sec is nothing even when we are considering time critical functions
> like balance.
>

Not true!!!

What most people miss are the stability requirements for closed loop control
systems. These are crystal clear in an analog world, but some (many?) people
think that they don't apply in a digital world. They do. While the thing you
are controlling may live in a millisecond world, you can't have a sharp
frequency cutoff point, or the system absolutely WILL oscillate at that
frequency for complex reasons. If you don't understand those reasons, then
you shouldn't be working in this area. So, how sharp is "sharp". The rate of
roll-off must be <12db/octave, as 12db/octave represents a 180 degree phase
shift, and any more makes it positive feedback. This must continue to high
frequencies, at least past the point of "unity gain", meaning that any
positive feedback dampens itself out because there is less than unity gain.

Lets take an example. Suppose your feedback system senses things and
administers corrections, the corrections being, say, at a gain of 1000 times
the error, and you want the feedback to work >1kHz. Rolling off at
6db/octave to stay away from the 12db/octave unstable point, means that the
permissible unity gain point is 1MHz. Of course, for really precise
positioning you might want higher gain and frequency stability, which pushes
you above 1MHz.

Note that delays look just like phase-linear low-pass filters, and indeed
some electronic designs use phase-linear low-pass filters to achieve short
delays. Hopefully you noticed "low pass" here, namely, delays introduce
their own VARIABLE phase shifts so that at higher frequencies, they become
positive feedback and fundamentally unstable.

IMHO the "logic" that does the feedback control MUST NOT incorporate a
network, unless that network is VERY short, e.g. in the same room. Even
then, network protocols will probably delay things too long to run stably.

Hence, while networks may be OK for higher functions, forget them as part of
any real-world feedback loops.

Note in passing that this SAME discussion applies to neurons in complex
feedback configurations (like brains). People now think that neurons are  *S
L O W*  when they may be just "compensated" (using analog terminology,
meaning that their high frequency response rolls off at ~6 db/octave) to
operate in a feedback world. Note that they ARE able to do some things
REALLY FAST (e.g. fast edges, doubled pulses, etc.) so perhaps they are
really running in a world that is ~2 orders of magnitude faster than anyone
(else) has yet thought possible. This would RADICALLY change projections of
how much computer it would take to emulate a brain, perhaps by ~2 orders of
magnitude.

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Re: [agi] Nao Nao

[Mike Tintner]

By not "made to perform work", you mean that it is not sturdy enough? Are any 
half-way AGI robots made to perform work, vs production line robots? (I think 
the idea of performing useful work should be a goal).

The protocol is obviously a good idea, but you're not suggesting it per se will 
lead to AGI?


From: John G. Rose 
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 3:17 PM
To: agi 
Subject: RE: [agi] Nao Nao


Typically the demo is some of the best that it can do. It looks like the robot 
is a mass produced model that has some really basic handling capabilities, not 
that it is made to perform work. It could still have relatively advanced 
microprocessor and networking system, IOW parts of the brain could run on 
centralized servers. I don't think they did that BUT it could.

 

But it looks like one Nao can talk to another Nao. What's needed here is a 
standardized robot communication protocol. So a Nao could talk to a vacuum 
cleaner or a video cam or any other device that supports the protocol. 
Companies may resist this at first as they want to grab market share and don't 
understand the benefit.

 

John

 

From: Mike Tintner [mailto:tint...@blueyonder.co.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 4:56 AM
To: agi
Subject: Re: [agi] Nao Nao

 

John,

 

Any more detailed thoughts about its precise handling capabilities? Did it, 
first, not pick up the duck independently,  (without human assistance)? If it 
did,  what do you think would be the range of its object handling?  (I had an 
immediate question about all this - have asked the site for further 
clarificiation - but nothing yet).

 

From: John G. Rose 

Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 5:46 AM

To: agi 

Subject: RE: [agi] Nao Nao

 

I wasn't meaning to portray pessimism.

 

And that little sucker probably couldn't pick up a knife yet.

 

But this is a paradigm change happening where we will have many networked 
mechanical entities. This opens up a whole new world of security and privacy 
issues...  

 

John

 

From: David Jones [mailto:davidher...@gmail.com] 

Way too pessimistic in my opinion. 

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 7:06 PM, John G. Rose  wrote:

Aww, so cute.

 

I wonder if it has a Wi-Fi connection, DHCP's an IP address, and relays sensory 
information back to the main servers with all the other Nao's all collecting 
personal data in a massive multi-agent geo-distributed robo-network.

 

So cuddly!

 

And I wonder if it receives and executes commands, commands that come in over 
the network from whatever interested corporation or government pays the most 
for access.

 

Such a sweet little friendly Nao. Everyone should get one :)

 

John

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RE: [agi] Nao Nao

[John G. Rose]

Typically the demo is some of the best that it can do. It looks like the
robot is a mass produced model that has some really basic handling
capabilities, not that it is made to perform work. It could still have
relatively advanced microprocessor and networking system, IOW parts of the
brain could run on centralized servers. I don't think they did that BUT it
could.

 

But it looks like one Nao can talk to another Nao. What's needed here is a
standardized robot communication protocol. So a Nao could talk to a vacuum
cleaner or a video cam or any other device that supports the protocol.
Companies may resist this at first as they want to grab market share and
don't understand the benefit.

 

John

 

From: Mike Tintner [mailto:tint...@blueyonder.co.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 4:56 AM
To: agi
Subject: Re: [agi] Nao Nao

 

John,

 

Any more detailed thoughts about its precise handling capabilities? Did it,
first, not pick up the duck independently,  (without human assistance)? If
it did,  what do you think would be the range of its object handling?  (I
had an immediate question about all this - have asked the site for further
clarificiation - but nothing yet).

 

From: John G. Rose <mailto:johnr...@polyplexic.com>  

Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 5:46 AM

To: agi <mailto:agi@v2.listbox.com>  

Subject: RE: [agi] Nao Nao

 

I wasn't meaning to portray pessimism.

 

And that little sucker probably couldn't pick up a knife yet.

 

But this is a paradigm change happening where we will have many networked
mechanical entities. This opens up a whole new world of security and privacy
issues...  

 

John

 

From: David Jones [mailto:davidher...@gmail.com] 

Way too pessimistic in my opinion. 

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 7:06 PM, John G. Rose 
wrote:

Aww, so cute.

 

I wonder if it has a Wi-Fi connection, DHCP's an IP address, and relays
sensory information back to the main servers with all the other Nao's all
collecting personal data in a massive multi-agent geo-distributed
robo-network.

 

So cuddly!

 

And I wonder if it receives and executes commands, commands that come in
over the network from whatever interested corporation or government pays the
most for access.

 

Such a sweet little friendly Nao. Everyone should get one :)

 

John


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Re: [agi] Nao Nao

[Mike Tintner]

John,

Any more detailed thoughts about its precise handling capabilities? Did it, 
first, not pick up the duck independently,  (without human assistance)? If it 
did,  what do you think would be the range of its object handling?  (I had an 
immediate question about all this - have asked the site for further 
clarificiation - but nothing yet).


From: John G. Rose 
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 5:46 AM
To: agi 
Subject: RE: [agi] Nao Nao


I wasn't meaning to portray pessimism.

 

And that little sucker probably couldn't pick up a knife yet.

 

But this is a paradigm change happening where we will have many networked 
mechanical entities. This opens up a whole new world of security and privacy 
issues...  

 

John

 

From: David Jones [mailto:davidher...@gmail.com] 



Way too pessimistic in my opinion. 

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 7:06 PM, John G. Rose  wrote:

Aww, so cute.

 

I wonder if it has a Wi-Fi connection, DHCP's an IP address, and relays sensory 
information back to the main servers with all the other Nao's all collecting 
personal data in a massive multi-agent geo-distributed robo-network.

 

So cuddly!

 

And I wonder if it receives and executes commands, commands that come in over 
the network from whatever interested corporation or government pays the most 
for access.

 

Such a sweet little friendly Nao. Everyone should get one :)

 

John

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Re: [agi] Nao Nao

[Ian Parker]

Just two quick comments. CCTV is already networked, the Police can track
smoothly from one camera to another. Second comment is that if you (say)
taking a heavy load upstairs you need 2 robots one holding each end. A
single PC can control them both. In fact a robot workshop will be a kind of
"cloud", in terms of "cloud" computing.


  - Ian Parker

On 12 August 2010 05:46, John G. Rose  wrote:

> I wasn't meaning to portray pessimism.
>
>
>
> And that little sucker probably couldn't pick up a knife yet.
>
>
>
> But this is a paradigm change happening where we will have many networked
> mechanical entities. This opens up a whole new world of security and privacy
> issues...
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
> *From:* David Jones [mailto:davidher...@gmail.com]
>
> Way too pessimistic in my opinion.
>
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 7:06 PM, John G. Rose 
> wrote:
>
> Aww, so cute.
>
>
>
> I wonder if it has a Wi-Fi connection, DHCP's an IP address, and relays
> sensory information back to the main servers with all the other Nao's all
> collecting personal data in a massive multi-agent geo-distributed
> robo-network.
>
>
>
> So cuddly!
>
>
>
> And I wonder if it receives and executes commands, commands that come in
> over the network from whatever interested corporation or government pays the
> most for access.
>
>
>
> Such a sweet little friendly Nao. Everyone should get one :)
>
>
>
> John
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RE: [agi] Nao Nao

[John G. Rose]

I wasn't meaning to portray pessimism.

 

And that little sucker probably couldn't pick up a knife yet.

 

But this is a paradigm change happening where we will have many networked
mechanical entities. This opens up a whole new world of security and privacy
issues...  

 

John

 

From: David Jones [mailto:davidher...@gmail.com] 



Way too pessimistic in my opinion. 

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 7:06 PM, John G. Rose 
wrote:

Aww, so cute.

 

I wonder if it has a Wi-Fi connection, DHCP's an IP address, and relays
sensory information back to the main servers with all the other Nao's all
collecting personal data in a massive multi-agent geo-distributed
robo-network.

 

So cuddly!

 

And I wonder if it receives and executes commands, commands that come in
over the network from whatever interested corporation or government pays the
most for access.

 

Such a sweet little friendly Nao. Everyone should get one :)

 

John




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RE: [agi] Nao Nao

[John G. Rose]

Well both. Though much of the control could be remote depending on
bandwidth. 

 

Also, one robot could benefit from the eyes of many as they would all be
internetworked to a degree.

 

John

 

From: Ian Parker [mailto:ianpark...@gmail.com] 



Your remarks about WiFi echo my own view. Should a robot rely on an external
connection (WiFi) or should it have complex processing itself.

 

In general we try to keep real time response information local, although
"local" my be viewed in terms of the c the speed of light. If a PC is 150m
away from a robot this is a 300m double journey which will take a
microsecond. To access the Web for a program will, of course, take
considerably longer.

 

A μ sec is nothing even when we are considering time critical functions like
balance. However for balance it might be a good idea to either have the
robot balancing, or else to have a card inserted into the PC.

 

This is one topic for which I have not been able to have a satisfactory
discussion or answer. People who build robots tend to think in terms of
having the processing power on the robot. This I believe is wrong.

 

 

  - Ian Parker

On 10 August 2010 00:06, John G. Rose  wrote:

Aww, so cute.

 

I wonder if it has a Wi-Fi connection, DHCP's an IP address, and relays
sensory information back to the main servers with all the other Nao's all
collecting personal data in a massive multi-agent geo-distributed
robo-network.

 

So cuddly!

 

And I wonder if it receives and executes commands, commands that come in
over the network from whatever interested corporation or government pays the
most for access.

 

Such a sweet little friendly Nao. Everyone should get one :)

 

John

 

From: Mike Tintner [mailto:tint...@blueyonder.co.uk] 

 

An unusually sophisticated (& somewhat expensive) promotional robot vid:

 

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/7934318/Nao-the-robot-that-expres
ses-and-detects-emotions.html


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Re: [agi] Nao Nao

[David Jones]

Way too pessimistic in my opinion.

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 7:06 PM, John G. Rose wrote:

> Aww, so cute.
>
>
>
> I wonder if it has a Wi-Fi connection, DHCP's an IP address, and relays
> sensory information back to the main servers with all the other Nao's all
> collecting personal data in a massive multi-agent geo-distributed
> robo-network.
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>
>
> So cuddly!
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>
> And I wonder if it receives and executes commands, commands that come in
> over the network from whatever interested corporation or government pays the
> most for access.
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> Such a sweet little friendly Nao. Everyone should get one :)
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> John
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> *From:* Mike Tintner [mailto:tint...@blueyonder.co.uk]
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>
> An unusually sophisticated (& somewhat expensive) promotional robot vid:
>
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> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/7934318/Nao-the-robot-that-expresses-and-detects-emotions.html
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Re: [agi] Nao Nao

[Mike Tintner]

Further pretty fab advanced stuff on

http://www.botjunkie.com/

See esp ball handling skills and ATHLETE Nasa robot


From: John G. Rose 
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 12:06 AM
To: agi 
Subject: RE: [agi] Nao Nao


Aww, so cute.

 

I wonder if it has a Wi-Fi connection, DHCP's an IP address, and relays sensory 
information back to the main servers with all the other Nao's all collecting 
personal data in a massive multi-agent geo-distributed robo-network.

 

So cuddly!

 

And I wonder if it receives and executes commands, commands that come in over 
the network from whatever interested corporation or government pays the most 
for access.

 

Such a sweet little friendly Nao. Everyone should get one :)

 

John

 

From: Mike Tintner [mailto:tint...@blueyonder.co.uk] 



 

An unusually sophisticated (& somewhat expensive) promotional robot vid:

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/7934318/Nao-the-robot-that-expresses-and-detects-emotions.html

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RE: [agi] Nao Nao

[John G. Rose]

Aww, so cute.

 

I wonder if it has a Wi-Fi connection, DHCP's an IP address, and relays
sensory information back to the main servers with all the other Nao's all
collecting personal data in a massive multi-agent geo-distributed
robo-network.

 

So cuddly!

 

And I wonder if it receives and executes commands, commands that come in
over the network from whatever interested corporation or government pays the
most for access.

 

Such a sweet little friendly Nao. Everyone should get one :)

 

John

 

From: Mike Tintner [mailto:tint...@blueyonder.co.uk] 



 

An unusually sophisticated (& somewhat expensive) promotional robot vid:

 

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/7934318/Nao-the-robot-that-expres
ses-and-detects-emotions.html


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