Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Cookie Jar] Report

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
allispaul wrote: > I guess 20 CFJs and 9 proposals. NttPF

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2561-65 assigned to c-walker

2009-06-06 Thread Sean Hunt
Paul VanKoughnett wrote: > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz wrote: >> On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 4:27 AM, Paul VanKoughnett wrote: >>> e registers, wishes to register, requests registration, or requests permission to register. >> I registers, wish to register, req

DIS: Re: BUS: [Cookie Jar] Report

2009-06-06 Thread Paul VanKoughnett
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 5:08 AM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > >> Guesses for June 8-14           Proposals  CFJs > > I guess 40 CFJs and 7 proposals. > I guess 20 CFJs and 9 proposals.

DIS: Re: BUS: [3SR-DM] (i)nventory

2009-06-06 Thread Paul VanKoughnett
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 3:26 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: > This report is governed by 3-Scroll Rodney; a contest. > > =SCROLL EFFECTS= > > When performing the following actions, if I specify that I both award > and revoke points from a player, I only

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2561-65 assigned to c-walker

2009-06-06 Thread Paul VanKoughnett
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz wrote: > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 4:27 AM, Paul VanKoughnett wrote: >> e registers, >>>   wishes to register, requests registration, or requests >>>   permission to register. > > I registers, wish to register, request registration, or requests

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2545 assigned to coppro

2009-06-06 Thread Sean Hunt
Ed Murphy wrote: > BobTHJ wrote: > >> Please! Trim these messages before responding. > > Or at least quote using > so my QuoteCollapse add-on will work. I do. It's the GMail guys who use tabs.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2545 assigned to coppro

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
BobTHJ wrote: > Please! Trim these messages before responding. Or at least quote using > so my QuoteCollapse add-on will work.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2574 assigned to ehird

2009-06-06 Thread Sean Hunt
Aaron Goldfein wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Sean Hunt > wrote: > I intend, with Support, to publish an NoV alleging that ehird violated > Rule 2158, a power-2 rule, by assigning an inappropriate judgment to CFJ > 2574's question on veracity w

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2553, 2556 assigned to Rodlen

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
Yally wrote: > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Rodlen > wrote: > > I judge both CFJ 2553 and CFJ 2556 TRUE. [snip] > I intend, with two support, to appeal this judgement. As "when pigs fly" Which one? I'm treating this as ineffective due to ambiguity, though of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2545 assigned to coppro

2009-06-06 Thread Roger Hicks
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 17:36, Sean Hunt wrote: > Aaron Goldfein wrote: ~~~ Far to much quoting done here, omitted for brevity ~~~ >> This appeal seems to have been ignored by the CotC. >> > NoV em for it, then. > Please! Trim these messages before responding. BobTHJ

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: s/object/either

2009-06-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sat, 6 Jun 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: > Goethe wrote: >> On Sat, 6 Jun 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: >>> A player CAN flip a specified proposal to Distributable with >>> 3 support, or without objection, or by spending 1 Note. >> >> Why bother with distributability then. -G. > > To avoid going t

DIS: Re: Fwd: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2569 assigned to Wooble

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
zeckalpha wrote: > I appeal based on the following: You need 2 support (unilateral appeal only works for criminal and equity cases).

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2544 assigned to Tiger

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
Tiger wrote: > 2009/6/7 Benjamin Caplan : >> Geoffrey Spear wrote: >>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Jonatan >>> Kilhamn wrote: I really couldn't find any other way of reading that rule that made as much sense as the one I ruled about. Your alleged office is part of your alleged i

DIS: Re: BUS: Cookie Jar awards

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
Pavitra wrote: > Sean Hunt wrote: >> I guess 7 proposals and 13 CFJs for next week. > 5 proposals, 10 CFJs. This was ttPF but you already guessed on June 2.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Anarchist] Anarchist Anarchy

2009-06-06 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/6/7 Aaron Goldfein : > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn > wrote: >> >> The following proposal constitutes the Anarchists weekly duties. >> >> Anarchist Anarchy >> AI=1, II=0 >> (( >> Repeal Rule 2216 (The repeal-o-matic) >> )) >> >> This message was sent Fri 6 May >> These

DIS: Re: OFF: [Anarchist] Anarchist Anarchy

2009-06-06 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > The following proposal constitutes the Anarchists weekly duties. > > Anarchist Anarchy > AI=1, II=0 > (( > Repeal Rule 2216 (The repeal-o-matic) > )) > > This message was sent Fri 6 May > These duties were last fulfilled Sun 31 May > > -- >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Cookie Jar awards

2009-06-06 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/6/7 Ed Murphy : > Tiger wrote: > >> I reatract my previous guesses and guess 11 proposals and 9 CFJs. > > The contract doesn't recognize retraction.  Feel free to propose > changing that; it would change the dynamic somewhat. > I'll think about it. For now I'll just be happy with my original g

DIS: Re: BUS: Cookie Jar awards

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
Tiger wrote: > I reatract my previous guesses and guess 11 proposals and 9 CFJs. The contract doesn't recognize retraction. Feel free to propose changing that; it would change the dynamic somewhat.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2569 assigned to Wooble

2009-06-06 Thread Kyle Marek-Spartz
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > I personally believe... I appeal based on the following: R1727 points out that the game was not called Agora until much later, which goes against the "Agora began on June 30th, 1993" argument. R104 does cause Michael to be the first speaker

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Cookie Jar awards

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
Tiger wrote: > If I haven't already guessed, I guess 10 proposals, 19 CFJs NttPF and you also already guessed on June 2.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Cookie Jar awards

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
Yally wrote: > I guess 10 proposals and 10 CFJs. And you guessed already on June 2, anyway.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Cookie Jar awards

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
Yally wrote: > I guess 10 proposals and 10 CFJs. NttPF

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: s/object/either

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
Pavitra wrote: > I support. NttPF

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2545 assigned to coppro

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
Yally wrote: > I appeal this judgment. > > > This appeal seems to have been ignored by the CotC. I had the message filed in a might-appeal-with-support subfolder, had missed that you appealed unilaterally. Will process later tonight.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2545 assigned to coppro

2009-06-06 Thread Sean Hunt
Aaron Goldfein wrote: > > > On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Aaron Goldfein > wrote: > > > > On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Aaron Goldfein > mailto:aarongoldf...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Sean Hunt

DIS: Re: BUS: Cookie Jar awards

2009-06-06 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/6/7 Benjamin Caplan : > Sean Hunt wrote: >> I guess 7 proposals and 13 CFJs for next week. > 5 proposals, 10 CFJs. > > Pavitra > If I haven't already guessed, I guess 10 proposals, 19 CFJs -- -Tiger

DIS: Re: BUS: Cookie Jar awards

2009-06-06 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Roger Hicks wrote: > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 12:42, Ed Murphy wrote: > > Guesses for May 25-31 Proposals CFJs > > --- > > Tue 19 May 13:21:18 BobTHJ20 17 > > Tue 19 May 14:01:03 Quazie23

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: s/object/either

2009-06-06 Thread Benjamin Caplan
Ed Murphy wrote: > coppro wrote: > >> Ed Murphy wrote: >>> Proposal: s/object/either >>> (AI = 2, please) >>> >>> Amend Rule 1607 (The Promotor) by replacing the sentence beginning >>> "A player CAN flip a specified proposal to Distributable" with >>> the following sentence: >>> >>> A playe

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2544 assigned to Tiger

2009-06-06 Thread Benjamin Caplan
Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Jonatan > Kilhamn wrote: >> I really couldn't find any other way of reading that rule that made as >> much sense as the one I ruled about. Your alleged office is part of >> your alleged identity the way I see it. > > I CFJ on: "I am the same

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: s/object/either

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
Goethe wrote: > On Sat, 6 Jun 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: >> A player CAN flip a specified proposal to Distributable with >> 3 support, or without objection, or by spending 1 Note. > > Why bother with distributability then. -G. To avoid going through the motions for proposals that no one e

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: s/object/either

2009-06-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sat, 6 Jun 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: > A player CAN flip a specified proposal to Distributable with > 3 support, or without objection, or by spending 1 Note. Why bother with distributability then. -G.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2553, 2556 assigned to Rodlen

2009-06-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sat, 6 Jun 2009, Rodlen wrote: > However, the "regular English definition" could very well also be said to be > the definitions of each word applied to make a phrase. No.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2555 assigned to BobTHJ

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
BobTHJ wrote: > I recuse myself from this case and (if possible) increase it's > interest index to 2. Doing it directly requires without N objections [R2225(1)], but its II was 1 and your rank is 1 so your recusal had the side effect of increasing its II [R2225(2)].

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2569 assigned to Wooble

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
ehird wrote: > 2009/6/6 Geoffrey Spear : >> I personally believe that if time did have a beginning it was more than >> 100 years ago that it began > > Around 6000 FYI. OVER 9000

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2569 assigned to Wooble

2009-06-06 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/6/6 Geoffrey Spear : > I personally believe that if time did have a beginning it was more than > 100 years ago that it began Around 6000 FYI.

DIS: Re: BUS: Fantasy Rules Contest awards

2009-06-06 Thread Taral
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > I destroy 10+10i points in my own possession Weirdest Action of the Week. -- Taral "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fantasy Rules Contest awards

2009-06-06 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> I destroy 10+10i points in my own possession > Huh? > It's my act of repentance.

DIS: Re: BUS: Fantasy Rules Contest awards

2009-06-06 Thread Sean Hunt
Geoffrey Spear wrote: > I destroy 10+10i points in my own possession Huh?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2544 assigned to Tiger

2009-06-06 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/6/6 Sean Hunt : > Elliott Hird wrote: >> 2009/6/6 Jonatan Kilhamn : >>> I judge TRUE. >>> >>> -- >>> -Tiger >>> >> >> I intend to appeal this with two support because SERIOUSLY? > I support. > I really couldn't find any other way of reading that rule that made as much sense as the one I ruled

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Cookie Jar awards

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
ehird wrote: > This is ridiculously easy money. Only if your guess is one of the closest. The more contestants, the larger the prize, but the less likely (assuming all guesses are equally likely to be accurate) that any given player will get it.

DIS: Re: BUS: Cookie Jar awards

2009-06-06 Thread Elliott Hird
This is ridiculously easy money.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2557 assigned to ehird

2009-06-06 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/6/6 Sean Hunt : > I intend, with 2 support, to appeal this judgment as homonyms (and hence > the bad puns used here) are not a valid means of interpreting a statement. Typo rule, you... you uncouth... person!

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2548 assigned to ehird

2009-06-06 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/6/6 comex : > Then did the amendment take place, or was it just entirely too vague? I'll say yes, it worked (but my Pedantic Hat says no).

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2480 judged NOT GUILTY by Taral

2009-06-06 Thread Taral
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > I remind the appeals panel in CFJ 2480a ({Wooble, Rodlen, Tiger}) that > they CAN and SHALL destroy the 4 rests I own: > {{{ >      If a verdict or sentence that led to >      the creation of Rests is overruled, remanded, or reassigned, the >    

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2544 assigned to Tiger

2009-06-06 Thread Sean Hunt
Elliott Hird wrote: > 2009/6/6 Jonatan Kilhamn : >> I judge TRUE. >> >> -- >> -Tiger >> > > I intend to appeal this with two support because SERIOUSLY? I support.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2548 assigned to ehird

2009-06-06 Thread Sean Hunt
comex wrote: > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Elliott > Hird wrote: >> 2009/6/6 Ed Murphy : >>> Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2548 >>> >>> == CFJ 2548 == >>> >>>Proposal 6335 had the effect of submitting a p

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2548 assigned to ehird

2009-06-06 Thread comex
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Elliott Hird wrote: > 2009/6/6 Ed Murphy : >> Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2548 >> >> ==  CFJ 2548  == >> >>    Proposal 6335 had the effect of submitting a proposal. >> >>

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2553, 2556 assigned to Rodlen

2009-06-06 Thread Rodlen
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Rodlen wrote: > >> I judge both CFJ 2553 and CFJ 2556 TRUE. >> >> Ignoring the non-animal meaning of pig, some pigs fly. The inflatable >> pigs used in the live shows of Pink Floyd have sometimes flown of

Re: DIS: proto: Constituencies

2009-06-06 Thread Charles Walker
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Charles Walker < charles.w.wal...@googlemail.com> wrote: > { AI 2, II 2 > [ This allows players to choose "Representatives" through contracts, who > can vote on their behalf in decisions > I didn't finish this description, so here's a completed one: [ This allows

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2561-65 assigned to c-walker

2009-06-06 Thread Kyle Marek-Spartz
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 4:27 AM, Paul VanKoughnett wrote: > e registers, >>   wishes to register, requests registration, or requests >>   permission to register. I registers, wish to register, request registration, or requests permission to register. Kyle Marek-Spartz - KDØGTK

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2561-65 assigned to c-walker

2009-06-06 Thread Kyle Marek-Spartz
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 3:48 AM, Charles Walker wrote: > I judge CFJs 2561-2565 FALSE, citing the evidence given and the third > paragraph of R869: >       A first-class person CAN (unless explicitly forbidden or >   prevented by the rules) register by announcing that e registers, >   wishes

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Senators

2009-06-06 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 12:18 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Yally wrote: > > > I intend, without 2 objections, to flip the II of the Promotor office > > to 3. Distributability on its own, IMO, warrants this change; > > messages like this one make it even more appropriate. > > > > > > I obje

DIS: proto: Constituencies

2009-06-06 Thread Charles Walker
{ AI 2, II 2 [ This allows players to choose "Representatives" through contracts, who can vote on their behalf in decisions Create a new power 2 Rule: {{ A Constituency is a public contract identifying itself as such. A Constituency requires at least 3 parties. A player SHALL NOT attempt to bec

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2561-65 assigned to c-walker

2009-06-06 Thread Paul VanKoughnett
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Charles Walker wrote: > > I judge CFJs 2561-2565 FALSE, citing the evidence given and the third > paragraph of R869: >       A first-class person CAN (unless explicitly forbidden or >   prevented by the rules) register by announcing that e registers, >   wi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2547 assigned to G.

2009-06-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sat, 6 Jun 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: >> I recuse myself from this case. Apologies, will let someone else >> sort out subject lines. Note: I previously favored this one: >> http://www.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2009-May/020706.html > > I actually changed the random sug

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2537 assigned to OscarMeyr

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
G. wrote: > Er, looks like arguments leaped in from a different case starting halfway > down... Hopefully OscarMeyr isn't required to make sense of those... :) Not sure how that happened, but in any case 2537 and 2545 have been fixed in the DB.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2547 assigned to G.

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
G. wrote: > On Fri, 5 Jun 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: >> == CFJ 2547 == >> >>Yally created a pledge in the above message >> >> > > I recuse myself from this case. Apo