Re: BUS: [Notice of Honour] Re: DIS: [Treasuror] Final unofficial draft

2020-06-19 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 3:28 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > On 6/19/2020 2:31 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-business wrote: > > On 2020-06-19 07:32, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > >> Since the asset list rarely changes, may I suggest

Re: DIS: [Proto-proposal] What's a card game without a deck?

2020-06-19 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 3:25 PM nch via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/18/20 5:58 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > >> -Is 10 coins a good fee for Drawing? > > I don't think we can answer this right now, and in response to another > > proposal I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] [Weekly Report] The long anticipated Forbes 493

2020-06-19 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 3:11 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/19/20 6:07 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 2020-06-19 04:20, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business > > wrote: > >> On 6/19/20 4:51 AM, Reuben Staley

Re: DIS: [Treasuror] Final unofficial draft

2020-06-19 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 12:54 AM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 2020-06-19 01:31, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > > Also, I think I transferred the DracoLotto both my legislative cards? > I do not believe

Re: DIS: [Treasuror] Final unofficial draft

2020-06-19 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 12:31 AM Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 2:08 PM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> I know, I know. I've already done this this week. I think this fixes all >> the

Re: DIS: [Treasuror] Final unofficial draft

2020-06-19 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 12:31 AM Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 2:08 PM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> I know, I know. I've already done this this week. I think this fixes all >> the

Re: DIS: [Treasuror] Final unofficial draft

2020-06-19 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 2:08 PM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I know, I know. I've already done this this week. I think this fixes all > the issues brought up with previous revisions. I also did some custom > styling on the markdown/HTML version. I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJs 3831 and 3838 judged TRUE

2020-06-16 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 6:11 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/16/20 9:07 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > > Thanks for this. You're describing exactly what I have in mind, and I'll > > take you advice. >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJs 3831 and 3838 judged TRUE

2020-06-16 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 6:07 PM Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 5:44 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> On 6/16/2020 5:01 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: >> > On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 12:41 PM Aris

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJs 3831 and 3838 judged TRUE

2020-06-16 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 5:44 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/16/2020 5:01 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 12:41 PM Aris Merchant wrote: > >> On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 10:20 AM Kerim Aydin wrote: > >>> On 6/13/2020 10:07 AM,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJs 3831 and 3838 judged TRUE

2020-06-16 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 12:41 PM Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 10:20 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-business > wrote: > > > > > > On 6/13/2020 10:07 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 1:04 PM Kerim Aydin

DIS: Re: BUS: [Promise] Legislative for Justice

2020-06-16 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 1:56 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business wrote: > On 6/16/20 4:48 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > > On 6/13/20 12:58 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > >> I create the following promise: > >> > >> Title: Legislative for Justice > >> > >>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJs 3831 and 3838 judged TRUE

2020-06-16 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 10:20 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > > > On 6/13/2020 10:07 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 1:04 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > >> On 6/13/2020 9:52 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > >>> In CFJ 1500, the Court found

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fine, I destroy "Combinotron"

2020-06-15 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 1:00 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/15/20 3:59 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 6/15/20 1:12 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > >> > >> On 6/13/2020 5:16 PM, Rebecca via agora-business wrote: > >>> I do intend to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fine, I destroy "Combinotron"

2020-06-15 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 11:26 AM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/15/20 2:20 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > to be clear, I wasn't really following this conversation it just caught > my > > eye when someone replied to this bit - was

DIS: Re: OFF: ADoP Initiating Election

2020-06-14 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 6:44 PM Rebecca via agora-official < agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I initiate an election for ADoP (again) because Murphy wants to contest it. > > I become a candidate. Campaign pitch: I will actually publish a report > weekly and do everything else in a

DIS: [PSA] Secret Pacts

2020-06-14 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
I'm going to regret saying this. I want everyone to remember that you can have a contract with secret terms. It can't allow acting on behalf or that sort of thing (in the part of it that's secret), but it can impose obligations. You just need to make a public contract that refers to another

Re: DIS: [Webmastor] A Github Coup

2020-06-14 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 11:36 AM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > > Totally agree with this, and Trigon just made some good points too. I'm > > starting to proto a rule that lets the Webmastor write regulations for > > the github that would regulate who should be

Re: DIS: [Webmastor] A Github Coup

2020-06-14 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 11:22 AM nch via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 6/14/20 1:18 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 11:08 AM nch via agora-discussion > > wrote: > >> Inactivity in the game doesn't really mean unreachable thoug

Re: DIS: [Webmastor] A Github Coup

2020-06-14 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 11:16 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > > On 6/14/2020 10:14 AM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 7:02 AM nch wrote: > >> On 6/14/20 8:55 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > >>>

Re: DIS: [Webmastor] A Github Coup

2020-06-14 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 11:08 AM nch via agora-discussion wrote: > > Inactivity in the game doesn't really mean unreachable though. omd has > been active on github with an occasional month off for 7 straight years. > This email address for me is an alias of my main protonmail address, and >

Re: DIS: [Webmastor] A Github Coup

2020-06-14 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 7:02 AM nch via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > On 6/14/20 8:55 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 6/14/20 7:04 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > >> A large number of members of the github were owners. Owners can > >>

Re: DIS: [Treasuror] New Report Format

2020-06-14 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 11:30 PM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 2020-06-13 22:55, Reuben Staley wrote: > > On 2020-06-13 22:27, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote: > >> I personally dislike the new format as gmail does NOT give agoran > >> messages > >> to me in fixed width,

DIS: Re: BUS: [Important and Very Cool Contract] Combinotron

2020-06-13 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:19 PM Rebecca via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > So here's the thing. If you have 4 cards of one type, you can create 10 > Products, at a gold efficiency of 2.5. But with the following contract, > which I create, ANYONE can get a gold

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8409-8430

2020-06-12 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 8:56 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > On behalf of twg, I vote Endorse G. on the below decisions. > > I vote as follows: > > On 6/6/2020 10:01 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-official wrote: > > 8409* Aris 3.0

DIS: FLR Fresh Version [attn. Rulekeepor]

2020-06-12 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
H. Rulekeepor, I usually use the fresh version of the FLR [1], which doesn't appear to have been updated yet. If this is a normal delay I apologize; I just thought I should bring the matter to your attention so you could fix any problems. [1] https://agoranomic.org/ruleset/flr-fresh.txt -Aris

DIS: Re: BUS: [Finger Pointing] Pineapples aren't people

2020-06-11 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 3:09 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I point my finger at the H. Arbitor for failing to assign a judge to CFJ > 1706 in a timely fashion, although I request that the H. Referee not > punish em too harshly. > > CFJ 1706 [0] was

Re: DIS: [proto-contract] Arbitration

2020-06-11 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 2:18 PM ATMunn via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/11/2020 3:28 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > >>> What is the advantage of arbitration by contract over just having the > >>> Referee / CFJ system handle things? > >> > >> The

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Barrel rolling

2020-06-11 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 12:58 PM James Cook via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > In general, defining one method for doing something excludes > "unregulated" > > methods from working, but doesn't exclude other regulated methods in the > > rules from working. > > > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: criminal behavior

2020-06-11 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 11:50 AM James Cook via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 at 22:27, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via > agora-business wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 6:06 PM nch via agora-business > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Prime Minister Election Voting Phase

2020-06-10 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 5:34 PM Rebecca via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I would suspect that between the two of them, nch has the more seniority > (and is an officeholder) > Both true! nch also just wrote our economy, and I have great respect for em. But I've

DIS: Re: BUS: criminal leadership

2020-06-10 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 3:30 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > > > I intend to deputize for the Prime Minister to appoint myself to the > office of Speaker. I was planning on waiting for the Herald to certify the win before appointing you; if e doesn't do it soonish, I'll go ahead and

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Victory auctions

2020-06-10 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 1:42 PM Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > What is AIAN or DADA? Agora is A Nomic and Defense Against the Dark Arts, our two anti-ossification rules. The former makes it impossible to ossify the game and the later punishes people

Re: DIS: [proto-contract] Arbitration

2020-06-10 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 8:37 PM Alex Smith via agora-discussion wrote: > Potentially radical idea (but only once we've got started with Cards, don't > want two major reforms at once!): replace all the contract/promise/pledgy > things with a contract-like thing which allows acting on behalf but

DIS: Re: BUS: Finger Pointing At Cuddlebeam

2020-06-08 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 6:56 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > On 6/8/2020 6:45 PM, Rebecca via agora-business wrote: > > I point my finger at Cuddlebeam > > > > Literally everything in eir most recent contract constitutes Faking, > > specifically by

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8405-8408

2020-06-08 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 5:56 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > > > > [Juggling three distributions in my mind at once pls send help] My official efficiency is rapidly increasing. Thoughts on the idea of moving to daily distributions? ;) -Aris

Re: DIS: [Promotor] Draft

2020-06-08 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 5:23 PM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > > Here's my draft. Darn, I forgot to add in transmutation. -Aris

DIS: [Promotor] Draft

2020-06-08 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
Here's my draft. -Aris --- I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the quorum is 7, the voting method is AI-majority, and the valid options are

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3841 Assigned to Jason

2020-06-08 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 4:00 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 6/8/20 6:37 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 6/8/2020 3:30 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 3:28 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > >>> On

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3841 Assigned to Jason

2020-06-08 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 3:28 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > On 6/8/2020 3:13 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > > The statement of the CFJ referenced by the statement of this CFJ is "En > > la declaración anterior, transferí una moneda a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Stately Officiation

2020-06-08 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 11:20 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > On 6/8/2020 11:12 AM, Aris Merchant wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 7:26 AM Rebecca wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 11:14 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > >>> On 6/7/2020 9:36 PM, Aris

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Stately Officiation

2020-06-08 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 7:26 AM Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 11:14 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > > > On 6/7/2020 9:36 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > > >

Re: DIS: [Proto] Interested Proposals Redux

2020-06-08 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 3:04 AM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 3:01 AM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion > wrote: > > > > Here's another step towards solving the proposal rewards problem. Let > > me know what you

Re: DIS: [Proto] Equation (equity cases)

2020-06-08 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 6:12 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > On 6/7/2020 8:42 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > > Here's my proto for generalized equity cases. I expect that there will > > be a bunc

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8409-8430

2020-06-08 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 12:07 AM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 3:34 AM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via > agora-business wrote: > > > > FOR; Aris, I think there is an error here because the Adop

DIS: [Discussion] Criminal Cases

2020-06-08 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
Would you like to see criminal cases decided by judges again? Why or why not? Discussion and debate are welcome. -Aris

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8409-8430

2020-06-08 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 3:34 AM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business wrote: > > FOR; Aris, I think there is an error here because the Adoption index > is listed differently below than here. I'm inclined to think this totally broke the distribution, but someone can let me know if

DIS: [Proto] Interested Proposals Redux

2020-06-08 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
Here's another step towards solving the proposal rewards problem. Let me know what you all think. -Aris --- Title: Interested Proposals Redux Adoption index: 2.0 Author: Aris Co-authors: Murphy, Ørjan, nch [I know the overlap with office interest is a little confusing, but this is traditional.

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Stately Officiation

2020-06-07 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
A quick word of explanation: This is completely cosmetic. However, it was pointed out at the time that this was adopted was that this was confusing, and I agree. It's long, and the word "officially" is really confusing, given that "timely fashion" is also used mostly for official duties. This is

Re: DIS: [Proto] Equation (equity cases)

2020-06-07 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 8:56 PM Alex Smith via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Monday, 8 June 2020, 04:43:19 GMT+1, Aris Merchant via > agora-discussion wrote: > > * EQUATE {X}, where X is a body of text, appropriate if the situation > &

DIS: [Proto] Equation (equity cases)

2020-06-07 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
Here's my proto for generalized equity cases. I expect that there will be a bunch of screaming, but it's minimalistic and leaves working out the details of what equity means in practice to case law. Moots provide a sufficient safeguard against abuses. -Aris --- Title: Equation Adoption index: 2.0

Re: DIS: [Proto] Judicial Diversification

2020-06-07 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 5:55 PM Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 4:55 AM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 10:40 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < > > agora

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Executive Expansion

2020-06-07 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 12:24 PM James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > > > - Imprimatur: The Prime Minister acts on behalf of the vote collector > > of an Agoran Decision to resolve that decision. > > It worries me that this doesn't say how the decision is resolved. It still works by the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Executive Expansion

2020-06-07 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 12:20 PM James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > > > - Corram Vobis: The Prime Minister enters a specified case, the current > > judgement of which was assigned within the past quarter, into Moot. > > Should that be "Coram Nobis" > They're essentially synonyms used

Re: DIS: [Proto] Judicial Diversification

2020-06-07 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 10:40 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > On 6/7/2020 10:35 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 at 01:09, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion > > wrote: > >> This

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8409-8430

2020-06-07 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 1:06 AM Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 11:12 PM Aris Merchant < > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 10:24 PM Rebecca via agora-discussion < >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8409-8430

2020-06-07 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 11:12 PM Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 10:24 PM Rebecca via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > > I also encourage everyone to vote against as many of Aris's proposals as > > possible

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8409-8430

2020-06-07 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 12:09 AM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 2020-06-07 00:20, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 10:43 PM Reuben Staley via agora-business > > wrote: > > > >>> 8418* Aris

Re: DIS: [Protos] Rule Violation Options

2020-06-07 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 10:14 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > > On 6/6/2020 9:33 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > >> E.g. "Certain actions are defined as infractions - these incur penalties > >> but not rule violations per se. Certain actions are defined as crimes. > >>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8409-8430

2020-06-07 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 10:24 PM Rebecca via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > I also encourage everyone to vote against as many of Aris's proposals as > possible (i.e, the non-essential ones) because Aris has submitted 10 > proposals or something, most of which are

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8409-8430

2020-06-07 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 10:43 PM Reuben Staley via agora-business wrote: > > 8418* Aris 3.0 Referenda > AGAINST; inventing Unnecessary Terms of Art for Things that don't > Require them decreases the Readability of the Ruleset. I question whether writing out the extremely

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposals] Moving Forward With Confidence

2020-06-06 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 10:27 PM Rebecca via agora-business wrote: > > I create the following proposal > Title: Thought Police > AI: 1.0 > If the proposal "No Confidence is No Insult" has passed, amend rule 2463 by > removing the last sentence. > Create a power 1 rule entitled "Really?" with the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8409-8430

2020-06-06 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 10:23 PM Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote: > > "slap on the wrist" does the same thing as "Why Limit Clemency" but better > - and removing clemency on crimes with 3 blots above would remove the > distinction between okay and bad crimes, a distinction which everybody was >

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8409-8430

2020-06-06 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
I vote as follows: > 8409* Aris 3.0 College of Letters, Arts, and Sciences FOR. This is one of the proposals I'm most proud of, and hopefully, it'll stay that way (sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't, but I think it will this time) > 8410e Aris 2.2

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Thesis] On the Continuity of the Agoran Judicial System

2020-06-06 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 9:06 PM Alex Smith via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Saturday, 6 June 2020, 16:44:10 GMT+1, Kerim Aydin via agora-business > wrote: > > CFJ 7 had been called on August 5, 1993, > > just over a month before Agora began, > > This statement seems implausible. I suggest

Re: DIS: [Attn: Herald] Birthday Tournament Discussion

2020-06-06 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 6:59 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > > > > On Jun 6, 2020, at 21:51, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > > I believe it's time to discuss this year's Birthday Tournament. We can > either do

DIS: [Proto] Judicial Diversification

2020-06-06 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
This is intended to lay the groundwork for adding other types of judicial cases later. Thoughts? -Aris --- Title: Judicial Diversification Adoption index: 2.0 Author: Aris Co-authors: Amend Rule 991, "Calls for Judgement", to read in full: Calls for Judgement (syn. Judicial Cases, CFJs) are

Re: DIS: Re: agora-discussion Digest, Vol 80, Issue 37

2020-06-06 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
n 7, 2020 at 10:22 AM ATMunn via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > I don't even know what the digests are lol > > > > On 6/6/2020 6:09 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 2:50 PM Tyler

DIS: Re: BUS: [Claim of Error] Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8405-8408

2020-06-06 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
I plead not guilty. The week isn't over yet. I'd already added it for the midweek distribution, so it will be distributed in time. -Aris On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 4:45 PM Rebecca via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I point my finger at Aris for not distributing "Silver

Re: DIS: Re: agora-discussion Digest, Vol 80, Issue 37

2020-06-06 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 2:50 PM Tyler M via agora-discussion wrote: > > I'd like my name to just be Tyler FYI, replying to the digest is generally considered to be bad form (among other things, it's confusingly long and messes up threading). Most players get the individual messages (I, for one,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [NAX] Bugfixing

2020-06-06 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 11:43 AM nch via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Saturday, June 6, 2020 1:30:22 PM CDT nch via agora-business wrote: > > I intend, with the consent of all other NAX members, to replace Part IV > of > > the NAX contract with the following > >

DIS: [Protos] Administrative Reforms

2020-06-06 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
Here are some protos, based on ideas Alexis was kicking around back in March. What do y'all think? -Aris --- Title: The Administrative State Adoption index: 3.0 Author: Aris Co-authors: Alexis Amend Rule 1728, "Dependent Action Methods", by adding as new list item after the third list item:

DIS: [Promotor] Draft

2020-06-05 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
Here's a draft for this midweek distribution. -Aris --- I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the quorum is 7, the voting method is

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] DADA Soft Repeal

2020-06-05 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 9:49 PM Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 2:40 PM Alex Smith via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > On Friday, 5 June 2020, 19:11:36 GMT+1, James Cook via agora-discussion < > > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org>

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] DADA Soft Repeal

2020-06-05 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 8:14 PM Rebecca via agora-business wrote: > > I create the following proposal > Title: Guilderoy Lockhart > Coauthor G. > AI: 1 > Chamber: Legislation > Text: Amend rule 2617 by deleting the last three paragraphs and the first > sentence [nonbinding explanatory note: this

DIS: [Protos] Rule Violation Options

2020-06-04 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
What do y'all think of these? If there's a strong consensus for one or the other, I'll only submit that one. -Aris --- Title: Rule Violations (option 1) Adoption index: 3.0 Author: Aris Co-author(s): If the author's proposal "Rule Violations (option 2)" has been or would be adopted with a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Certifiable Patches

2020-06-04 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 5:40 PM nch via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Thursday, June 4, 2020 7:25:03 PM CDT Aris Merchant via agora-discussion > wrote: > > What do y'all think of this proto? > > > > -Aris > > --- > > Title: Certifiable Patches > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Certifiable Patches

2020-06-04 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 5:40 PM nch via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Thursday, June 4, 2020 7:25:03 PM CDT Aris Merchant via agora-discussion > wrote: > > What do y'all think of this proto? > > > > -Aris > > --- > > Title: Certifiable Patches > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Certifiable Patches

2020-06-04 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 5:28 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 6/4/20 8:25 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > > Any player CAN, by announcement, certify a specified proposal (as a > > patch), > > causing it to become pended. > &g

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Certifiable Patches

2020-06-04 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 8:43 AM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 11:37 AM Rebecca via agora-discussion > wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 1:35 AM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via > > agora-discussion wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Jun 4,

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Certifiable Patches

2020-06-04 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 10:42 PM Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > > I submit the following proposal. > > -Aris > --- > Title: Certifiable Patches I retract this proposal. -Aris

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposals] Aris Reshapes the Legislative Process

2020-06-04 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 11:55 AM nch via agora-discussion wrote: > > Ok I think these are the newest and current versions of these proposals in the > pool, minus Vote Manipulation. Apologies if I make comments that are redundant > with discussion, the comments on these have gotten a bit sprawling.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] No Punishment For Nominal Crimes

2020-06-04 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 12:20 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > On 6/4/2020 12:09 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 3:04 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > >> On 6/4/2020 11:38 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > >>>

Discussion of Honor (was Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposals] Aris Reshapes the Legislative Process)

2020-06-04 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 7:20 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > On 6/3/2020 11:23 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 11:11 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > >> > >> > >> On 6/3/2020 11:00 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] No Punishment For Nominal Crimes

2020-06-04 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 11:38 AM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 2:32 PM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 10:24 AM Kerim Aydin via agor

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] No Punishment For Nominal Crimes

2020-06-04 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 10:24 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > On 6/4/2020 9:37 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 12:09 PM Rebecca wrote: > >> On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 2:00 AM Kerim Aydinwrote: > >>> I think having

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposals] Aris Reshapes the Legislative Process

2020-06-04 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 12:14 AM Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 4:24 PM Aris Merchant via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 11:11 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 6/3/2020 11:00

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposals] Aris Reshapes the Legislative Process

2020-06-04 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 10:36 PM Aris Merchant wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 10:04 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion > wrote: > > > > > > On 6/3/2020 9:19 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 1:03 PM Aris Merchant wrote: > > >> > > > > > proposal when

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposals] Aris Reshapes the Legislative Process

2020-06-03 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 10:04 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > > On 6/3/2020 9:19 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 1:03 PM Aris Merchant wrote: > >> > > > proposal when resolving it. Players SHOULD NOT attempt to game popularity. > > > > Can we

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] No More Numbers!

2020-06-03 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 3:40 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > On 6/3/2020 2:45 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 2:20 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < > > agora-discu

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] No More Numbers!

2020-06-03 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 2:20 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > On 6/3/2020 2:12 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > Aris may have a little more difficulty with eir proposal because that F/A > > ratio doesn't have a clever term-of-art name defined in R955

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] No More Numbers!

2020-06-03 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 2:04 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 5:00 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion > wrote: > > > > > > On 6/3/2020 1:46 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > > > On 6/3/20 4:44 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposals] Aris Reshapes the Legislative Process

2020-06-03 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 1:27 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 4:02 PM Aris Merchant via agora-business > wrote: > > > > I submit the following proposals. > > > > -Aris > > --- > > Title: Order-Independent Resolutions > > Adoption index: 1.0

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposals] Aris Reshapes the Legislative Process

2020-06-03 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 1:24 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > On 6/3/2020 1:02 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > > The player who proposed the proposal with the greatest F/A, as > > defined in rule 955, > > Can I just comment that I

Re: DIS: Possible Second Distribution [Attn. Assessor]

2020-06-03 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 11:11 PM Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 4:09 PM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > How would people feel about there being another distribution later this >

Re: [attn: Officers] Re: DIS: Proto-Contract: LoAFER second draft

2020-06-03 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 11:06 PM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 2020-06-02 12:37, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > >> * Registrar > >>* Deregistration: [Deregistration] > >>* Changing the master switch of a player: >

DIS: Possible Second Distribution [Attn. Assessor]

2020-06-03 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
How would people feel about there being another distribution later this week? A lot of proposals are flying right now, so I might be inclined to do one if I had time (I have no clue if I will). I am particularly interested in the opinions of my honorable colleague the Assessor, since another

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [CFJ] ¿Puedo realizar acciónes en español?

2020-06-02 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 8:58 PM Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote: > > The statement of the CFJ translates to something very clear, but the > actual transfer translates to "I transfer a currency to Agora" which fails > because currency is a term of art and there are multiple currencies. Please

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Attn: Notary] [Dragon] Application of Shorter Voting Periods

2020-06-02 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 8:20 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/2/20 10:51 PM, Rebecca via agora-business wrote: > > Jason objected to this intent dude, this ratification did not work > > > > but luckily the self-ratification of last week's notary

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8388-8404

2020-06-02 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 7:11 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 5/26/20 7:40 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > >> // > >> ID: 3399 > >> Title: E had two months! > > Wrong

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