Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Weekly Report

2017-04-18 Thread Owen Jacobson
A solid +1. Theme proposals encouraged? -o > On Apr 13, 2017, at 4:11 PM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > You'd need to create a new rule. I'd also suggest paying them something. > Maybe add "If this proposal passes, the Secretary CAN and SHALL once pay the >

DIS: Re: OFF: Re: BUS: [ADoP by deputisation] Metareport

2017-03-26 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Mar 26, 2017, at 10:43 PM, Tanner Swett wrote: > > That attempt at publishing a report failed because I didn't state that > I was deputising. (And besides, I sent it to BUS instead of OFF.) > > I normally deputise for the ADoP to publish the following report. > >

DIS: [DRAFT] February payday

2017-01-29 Thread Owen Jacobson
The following is a draft of my planned message to -official on Feb 1st. I believe the numbers are correct, but I would very much appreciate a second look, given the chaos I caused last time around. -o Date of this payday: Wed 1 Feb, 2017 Date of last payday: Thu 6 Jan, 2017 As secretary, I

Re: DIS: Porto-Proposal: Bring back Assets

2017-01-16 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Jan 17, 2017, at 1:06 AM, Aris Merchant wrote: > {Reenact rule 2166, Assets (Power = 2), with the folowing text: > An asset is an entity defined as such by a rule (hereafter its backing > document), and existing solely because its backing document

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Services rendered

2017-01-16 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Jan 15, 2017, at 3:26 AM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 8:57 PM, nichdel wrote: >> >> I'm currently looking into changes to organizations and agencies to simplify >> and bring them in line with the new economy.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Founding the Agoran Voting Market

2017-01-16 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Jan 16, 2017, at 1:58 AM, nichdel <nich...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 01/07/2017 04:00 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: >> An Agoran Decision is within the scope of a sale contract if the seller has >> not >> yet voted in a number of resolved Agoran

DIS: Re: BUS: Services rendered

2017-01-16 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Jan 14, 2017, at 11:48 PM, Aris Merchant <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 9:16 PM, Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca> wrote: >> I pay Aris 3 shinies, for research assistance. >> >> -o >> > I pay o 5 shines, for as

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Economic Flexibility

2017-01-13 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Jan 14, 2017, at 2:26 AM, nichdel wrote: > Amend the rule titled "Economics" by replacing: > > Any attempt by a player to PAY any amount that would make > eir own balance negative is INEFFECTIVE, rules to the contrary > notwithstanding. > > With: > >

Re: DIS: Game-state proposals?

2017-01-12 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Jan 11, 2017, at 3:45 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > I should add: for economies, surprise resets, or the have-nots taking from > the haves via proposals, can be very controversial and really annoy people > who have spent time making private earnings. When we did that

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Services rendered

2017-01-10 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Jan 11, 2017, at 12:35 AM, Aris Merchant <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 9:16 PM, Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca> wrote: >> I pay Aris 3 shinies, for research assistance. >> >> -o >> > Thank you! :) Getting a

DIS: Game-state proposals?

2017-01-10 Thread Owen Jacobson
I went digging in the last FLR, and didn’t find an authoritative answer, so I’m hoping I missed something. I _think_ that it’s possible, right now, for proposals to include direct effects on the game-state which are not indirected through rules. The last enacted one I can find is proposal

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Emergency Distribution of Proposal 7839

2017-01-07 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Jan 7, 2017, at 9:38 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > ID Author(s) AI Title > --- > 7839* o, Alexis 3.2 Alexis’ Decree I vote FOR. -o signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP

DIS: Re: BUS: Health issues

2017-01-07 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Jan 7, 2017, at 8:16 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > Sorry everyone, but I deregister. > > Alexis Well, shit. Get better soon! -o signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Secretary] Weekly report

2017-01-06 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Jan 6, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > Hate to to point this out, and I may be wrong, but... This report appears not > to reflect the several proposals you pended. Might want to update that. So > everyone knows, I'm not planning to release my

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Secretary] Payday

2017-01-06 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Jan 6, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote: > On Fri, 6 Jan 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: > >> G. 4 50 Shinies > > I'm afraid this fails in some way again, because I'm no longer > Speaker and hold only 3 offices. -G.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3470 judged FALSE by o

2017-01-05 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Jan 6, 2017, at 12:41 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Thu, 5 Jan 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> Caller: ?rjan >> > > Oh, bother: haven't seen this issue before, it displays correctly > in the agoranomic archive and in my CFJ archive... what am I

DIS: Re: BUS: [Secretary] Payday

2017-01-05 Thread Owen Jacobson
-o > On Jan 5, 2017, at 3:07 AM, Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca> wrote: > > Hopefully this is the right forum for this. > > I cause Agora to pay the following salaries, by announcement: > > ais523 10 Shinies > Alexis 10 Shinies > a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Secretary] Payday

2017-01-05 Thread Owen Jacobson
the CFJ identified earlier in this message should be judged FALSE. If I can’t, I’ll repost it to the correct list, on its own. Kerim Aydin also wrote: > On Thu, 5 Jan 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: > >> I’m considering CFJing that that announcement was at least partially >>

DIS: Re: BUS: [Secretary] Payday

2017-01-05 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Jan 5, 2017, at 3:07 AM, Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca> wrote: > Hopefully this is the right forum for this. > > I cause Agora to pay the following salaries, by announcement: > > ais523 10 Shinies > Alexis 10 Shinies > aranea

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposal 7838

2017-01-05 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Dec 5, 2016, at 5:59 AM, nichdel wrote: > > On 12/05/2016 04:36 AM, ais523 wrote >> So it now costs shinies to pend proposals, but nobody will have any >> until 2017 (possibly later, if it turns out that the Secretary's powers >> to award shinies are buggy; the "if doing

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 7838

2016-11-30 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Nov 30, 2016, at 3:11 AM, Sprocklem S <sprock...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca> wrote: >> I vote as follows: >> >>> ID Author(s) AI Title >>> -

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 7838

2016-11-27 Thread Owen Jacobson
I vote as follows: > ID Author(s) AI Title > - > 7838* o, nichdel, G., Ørjan 2.0 Simple Economics v2 FOR. -o

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Simple Economy, round 2 (this time, for sure!)

2016-11-22 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Nov 22, 2016, at 2:41 AM, Aris Merchant wrote: > Or, if you want it sooner, I can rush it through, but it won't have the usual > formatting. No, no rush. Thanks, though - I appreciate the offer. -o

DIS: Re: BUS: (no subject)

2016-11-20 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Nov 19, 2016, at 7:54 PM, Josh T wrote: > 皆さん、 > > I announce the formation of the Organization with name "蘭亭社" and the > following Charter: > > 1. この憲章には、以下の同じ行に書かれている用語が同意義です。 > * Agora, アゴラ, 阿呉羅 > * Announcement, 公表 > * Appropriate, ふさわしい, 相応しい >

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: 登録書

2016-11-13 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Nov 13, 2016, at 2:14 PM, Edward Murphy wrote: > Gratuituous evidence: > >

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Secretary] Organization Report

2016-11-13 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Nov 13, 2016, at 11:57 AM, ais523 <callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > On Sun, 2016-11-13 at 11:52 -0500, Owen Jacobson wrote: >> Recent events (all times UTC) >> >> Thu 14 Jul 20:03:49 aranea flips ACU Budget Switch to 50 >> Sun 17 Jul 23:24:57 nichde

Re: DIS: another plea for court retirement

2016-11-10 Thread Owen Jacobson
Don’t forget that proposal 7803 (“Self-service judiciary”) passed: any player eligible to judge CAN step up without 3 objections, right now. Take your time. If you no longer want the job, say so, but you’ve done admirably at making sure the office can function adequately without you. -o > On

DIS: Re: BUS: [ACU] Bank Statements

2016-11-10 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Nov 6, 2016, at 3:58 PM, Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca> wrote: > I intend, without objection, to ratify the quoted document below, no earlier > than Thursday, November 10th. I do so. I await the result of ais523’s call for judgement with bated breath. -o >> On Nov 6

Re: DIS: The State of Discussion, Mailing Lists, IRC, and things that were actually invented this century.

2016-11-10 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Nov 10, 2016, at 4:21 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Fri, 4 Nov 2016, Aris Merchant wrote: >> As a member of the aforementioned younger generation (You're not going >> to get any more that that the difference is significant), I agree >> about the obsolescence of IRC. I'm

DIS: Re: BUS: A path to...

2016-11-10 Thread Owen Jacobson
t;aler...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:10 AM Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca > <mailto:o...@grimoire.ca>> wrote: > I might as well give it a try: > > I intend, without objection, to declare Apathy, specifying the set {ais523, > o}, no earlier than Mo

DIS: Re: BUS: Both existing Erratic rules are going nowhere

2016-11-09 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Nov 9, 2016, at 11:43 PM, ais523 wrote: > > Neither rule 2454 ("The New Map") or rule 2452 ("Trust Tokens") seems > likely to be going anywhere; both require active participation to > really work, and neither is being participated in. As such, it makes > sense

DIS: Re: BUS: [ACU] Bank Statements

2016-11-07 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Nov 6, 2016, at 4:06 PM, ais523 wrote: > CFJ: It is possible to ratify an Agoran Credit Union report, and have > the ratification have some effect. Now I’m intruiged, too. Would the outcome of this CFJ make any difference if I ratified the report as I plan to,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Shame

2016-11-06 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Nov 6, 2016, at 4:47 PM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > Are you sure we want shame on green cards? The whole point of green cards is > that they can be given when no punishment is warranted. The way the rules are > set up is to require cards, but to allow

Re: DIS: Am I the Secretary now?

2016-11-06 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Nov 6, 2016, at 4:52 PM, Luis Ressel <ara...@aixah.de> wrote: > On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 16:21:39 -0500 > Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca> wrote: > >> Did publishing the Secretary’s reports through normal deputisation >> make me the Secretary? >> > > I

DIS: Am I the Secretary now?

2016-11-06 Thread Owen Jacobson
Did publishing the Secretary’s reports through normal deputisation make me the Secretary? Rule 1006 “Officers”: An imposed office is an office described as such by the rule defining it. All others are elected. Rule 2456 “The Secretary”: The Secretary is an office. Rule 2160 “Deputisation”:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Management

2016-11-06 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Nov 6, 2016, at 5:57 AM, Luis Ressel <ara...@aixah.de> wrote: > On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 02:57:43 -0500 > Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca> wrote: > >>> I CFJ, barring Aris "If Proposal 7821 were resolved right now, the >>> outcome would be ADOPTED

DIS: Re: BUS: New Management

2016-11-06 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Nov 6, 2016, at 2:28 AM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 3:30 AM Aris Merchant > > wrote: > > 7821* Alexis 3.0 This One's A Scam > > I cast a ballot of FOR on the

Re: DIS: Draft proposal: Shame

2016-11-05 Thread Owen Jacobson
There’s no better way to find bugs than five minutes after posting. On Nov 5, 2016, at 2:45 AM, Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca> wrote: >Shame is a natural person switch. The default Shame of each player is zero. This should read Shame is a natural player switch

DIS: Draft proposal: Shame

2016-11-05 Thread Owen Jacobson
Riffing on from Alexis’ “Vigilante Justice” proposal a bit, I’d like to suggest longer-term penalties. I picked Lockout as a consequence more or less out of a hat: it’s severe, but it’s tightly scoped and largely only affects participation in Organizations. Alternative suggestions wanted, if

Re: DIS: The State of Discussion, Mailing Lists, IRC, and things that were actually invented this century.

2016-11-04 Thread Owen Jacobson
bility in how you can manage discussions and game state. > > On 5 November 2016 at 13:02, Alexis Hunt <aler...@gmail.com > <mailto:aler...@gmail.com>> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 11:00 PM Michael Brown <no.spoon@gmail.com > <mailto:no.spoon@gmail.com>&g

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Simple Economy

2016-11-04 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Nov 4, 2016, at 8:59 PM, nichdel wrote: > > I submit the following proposal (I'll pend in a couple days after a > feedback period): > > Title: Simple Economics > Adoption index: 2.0 > Author: nichdel > Co-author(s): G. Okay, so you’ve got: * A fast currency * A

Re: DIS: The State of Discussion, Mailing Lists, IRC, and things that were actually invented this century.

2016-11-04 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Nov 4, 2016, at 9:47 PM, Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca> wrote: > Slack… isn’t open, which concerns me a lot. Right now they’re tolerant of > clients other than their own, so it’s technically possible to attach > archiving and to pull data from Slack, but the terms of servi

Re: DIS: The State of Discussion, Mailing Lists, IRC, and things that were actually invented this century.

2016-11-04 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Nov 4, 2016, at 7:24 PM, Nicholas Evans wrote: > > There's been some frustration voiced about the three mailing list system, > again. I say again because there was a plan to migrate the mailing lists to a > unified solution this summer, but it fell by the wayside as,

DIS: Re: BUS: Intent to deputise

2016-11-04 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Nov 4, 2016, at 1:47 PM, Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca> wrote: > * It’ll take me about that long to get the reports together anyways, and I’d > rather not duplicate the effort if someone else is already doing it; Apparently not. I have DRAFTS of the two rules-required repo

DIS: Re: BUS: Invasion protection, again

2016-11-04 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Nov 4, 2016, at 4:01 AM, ais523 wrote: > In many periods of history, Agora has had some sort of invasion > protection rule. This normally serves two purposes: protecting Agora > from a large influx of new players who are aiming to gain control over > the ruleset;

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7821-7830

2016-11-04 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Nov 4, 2016, at 6:43 PM, ais523 <callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > On Fri, 2016-11-04 at 18:39 -0400, Owen Jacobson wrote: >> More generally, I realize I’m relatively new, but the three-list >> setup seems spectacularly prone to this kind of mistak

Re: DIS: (Off-Topic) BlogNomic

2016-11-04 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Nov 4, 2016, at 12:14 AM, Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca> wrote: > > On the theory that BlogNomic has been colonized by a party bent on destroying > the game, is there any aid we can extend to the other players? I withdraw this theory. > To be clear: my actual goa

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7821-7830

2016-11-04 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Nov 4, 2016, at 11:58 AM, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 7:56 AM, Luis Ressel wrote: >>> 7823+ Alexis 3.0 Vigilante Justice >> >> I change my vote on proposal 7823 to AGAINST. > I withdraw any previous vote, and

Re: DIS: (Off-Topic) BlogNomic

2016-11-03 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Nov 4, 2016, at 1:27 AM, Michael Brown wrote: > > I am (unfortunately) a lurker here and, until today, also at Blognomic. So > this is officially unofficial, but I hereby move the following for > consideration by all watchers, lurkers and registered players of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7821-7830

2016-11-03 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Nov 4, 2016, at 12:33 AM, Aris Merchant > <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 9:25 PM, Alexis Hunt <aler...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 12:24 AM Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca> wrote: >>>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7821-7830

2016-11-03 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Nov 4, 2016, at 12:19 AM, Alexis Hunt <aler...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 11:16 PM Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca > <mailto:o...@grimoire.ca>> wrote: > > 7823+ Alexis 3.0 Vigilante Justice > > AGAINST, but

Re: DIS: (Off-Topic) BlogNomic

2016-11-03 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Nov 3, 2016, at 5:08 PM, Sgeo wrote: > What's going on with BlogNomic? > http://blognomic.com/archive/twelve_times_twelve_midnight > > > Is this just the new theme, risking BlogNomic's existence? I know

Re: DIS: BUS: Pending

2016-11-03 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Oct 30, 2016, at 5:39 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > Thank you! Now let's make sure this doesn't happen again. > > I hereby create the following proposal: > > Title: Promotorial Power > AI: 1 > Author: Aris > { > If the proposal "Make Spending Power More

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Identification of Proposal 7820

2016-10-29 Thread Owen Jacobson
> ID Author(s) AI Title > - > 7820^! Alexis, ais523 1.0 Official Clarification I vote FOR. -o

DIS: Re: BUS: now to clear this up

2016-10-28 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Oct 28, 2016, at 10:55 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 9:56 PM Alexis Hunt > wrote: > Proposal: Official Clarification (AI=1) > {{{ > Amend Rule 2143 (Official Duties) by adding "A person's obligation to

DIS: TLAs (was Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7815-7817)

2016-10-28 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Oct 28, 2016, at 12:55 PM, nichdel wrote: > *7815+ Alexis, aranea3.0 Agencies Since this has been adopted, I’m curious if either of its co-authors has any plans to unify it with Organizations. -o

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal season

2016-10-28 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Oct 28, 2016, at 10:00 AM, Luis Ressel <ara...@aixah.de> wrote: > On Thu, 27 Oct 2016 22:46:13 -0400 > Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca> wrote: > >> On Oct 26, 2016, at 12:00 PM, Luis Ressel <ara...@aixah.de> wrote: >> >>> the map "t |->

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal season

2016-10-27 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Oct 26, 2016, at 12:00 PM, Luis Ressel wrote: > the map "t |-> max(14,t+2)" is applied Oh, come on. -o

Re: DIS: Not very game related: Why are you here?

2016-10-16 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Oct 11, 2016, at 11:40 PM, ais523 wrote: > I'd known about Nomic for ages (from an article by IIRC Douglas > Hofstatder that quoted Suber's original definition of Nomic), and > thought it might be interesting to see what one is like. > > Then I stayed because

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 7814

2016-10-16 Thread Owen Jacobson
I vote as follows: > On Oct 14, 2016, at 10:35 AM, Luis Ressel wrote: > > ID Author(s) AI Title > - > 7814+ o 3.0 FOR Require Intent on Ballots FOR. -o

DIS: Re: BUS: Speaker Fix

2016-09-18 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Sep 17, 2016, at 10:45 AM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > Proposal: Voting Strength Fix (AI=1) > {{{ This looks pretty good overall. I like the generalization of voting strength. However, I believe this proposal will be ineffective with AI=1 - several of the rules amended

Re: DIS: Concordances

2016-09-16 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Sep 16, 2016, at 12:29 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Should a basic definition be provided, or is that a dictionary but > not belonging in a concordance and we should infer the definition? > (not hard in this case of course). I’d prefer to avoid that - I meant this as an

Re: DIS: Concordances

2016-09-15 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Sep 15, 2016, at 12:35 AM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote: > > > > On Wed, 14 Sep 2016, Owen Jacobson wrote: >> Has anyone written (and maintained, which is the real work) a >> concordance for Agora’s rules, so that players can mor

DIS: Re: BUS: A Proposal

2016-09-15 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Sep 15, 2016, at 1:22 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > Proposal: Agencies (AI=3) > {{{ > c) If the action is to be performed With T Notice, if the itent was > announced at > least T earlier. Typo: “intent" > Enact a new power-1 rule entitled "TLAs" that

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3461 assigned to Alexis

2016-09-15 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Sep 15, 2016, at 12:58 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I'm vaguely remembering a precedent that said "an announcement clearly > for one thing is not to be interpreted as an announcement for something > else". > > For example, it's pretty clear that people reply to a Proposal

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: require

2016-09-14 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Sep 15, 2016, at 12:07 AM, Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca> wrote: > --- > > Title: FOR Require Intent on Ballots > Adoption index: 1.0 > Author: o > Co-author(s): I retract this proposal. s

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: require

2016-09-14 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Sep 15, 2016, at 12:50 AM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote: > > On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, Owen Jacobson wrote: >> Title: FOR Require Intent on Ballots >> Adoption index: 1.0 >> Author: o >> Co-author(s): >> >> Replace the text of ru

DIS: Concordances

2016-09-14 Thread Owen Jacobson
Hi, From recent discussions, it sounds like at least a few folks are on board with reorganizing the rules to put the privileges and responsibilities of each office together wherever possible, and more generally to avoid spreading clauses relating to a single subject across multiple rules.

Re: DIS: Proto: Old/New Economy Draft

2016-09-07 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Jul 31, 2016, at 9:19 PM, nichdel wrote: > Here's a (periodically updated) draft of the econ proposal I'm working > on: > > http://hearthgate.net/agorawiki/Econ-Proto As of this writing, the proposal for Economics reads, in part: > To 'transfer' a specified amount of a

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7806-08

2016-09-07 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Sep 7, 2016, at 1:54 AM, Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca> wrote: > On Aug 1, 2016, at 3:34 PM, Luis Ressel <ara...@aixah.de> wrote: > >> I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran >> Decision of whether to adopt it. For this decision, the vot

Re: DIS: The ideal grind

2016-09-07 Thread Owen Jacobson
Picking this thread up again, after much delay, just to say: On Jul 13, 2016, at 4:32 PM, nichdel <nich...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 07/12/2016 08:02 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > >> The real question is, what does Agora’s economy produce? I can think of >> “rules

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7806-08

2016-09-06 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Aug 1, 2016, at 3:34 PM, Luis Ressel wrote: > > I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran > Decision of whether to adopt it. For this decision, the vote collector > is the Assessor, and the valid options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is > also a valid

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7809-12

2016-09-06 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Aug 20, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Luis Ressel wrote: > I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran > Decision of whether to adopt it. For this decision, the vote collector > is the Assessor, and the valid options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is > also a valid

Re: DIS: Proto: Deep Power Shift

2016-07-12 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Jul 11, 2016, at 3:00 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Power is one of the most enduring structures of our game. > Here's a proto to shake it up a bit. The obvious question: why? This proposal introduces a fair bit of complexity; what’s not working that this addresses, or

Re: DIS: The ideal grind

2016-07-12 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Jul 11, 2016, at 9:10 PM, nichdel wrote: > > On 07/11/2016 05:52 PM, Charles Walker wrote: > > > > I tend to prefer economies that link up with the rest of the game > > somehow: rewards for getting proposals passed and holding offices, and > > Agora-wide benefits to

Re: DIS: The ideal grind

2016-07-12 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Jul 11, 2016, at 1:31 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I've been thinking about currency/grind games, and was trying to > enumerate what makes them "successful" in Agora in my experience. > Here's my start on a feature list; thoughts? I’m leery of “grind” economies, for a few

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