Re: [Attn: G.] Re: Contract charities (was Re: DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification)

2020-06-25 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/25/2020 11:33 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 17:03, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion > wrote: >> On 6/25/2020 9:33 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: >>> On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 14:00, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion >>> wrote: On

Re: [Attn: G.] Re: Contract charities (was Re: DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification)

2020-06-25 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 17:03, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/25/2020 9:33 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 14:00, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion > > wrote: > >> On 6/24/2020 8:47 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > >>> Bump. Here's

Re: [Attn: G.] Re: Contract charities (was Re: DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification)

2020-06-25 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/25/2020 9:33 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 14:00, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion > wrote: >> On 6/24/2020 8:47 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: >>> Bump. Here's an updated text; all I did was remove the once-per-month >>> restriction. G.,

Re: [Attn: G.] Re: Contract charities (was Re: DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification)

2020-06-25 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 14:00, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/24/2020 8:47 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > > Bump. Here's an updated text; all I did was remove the once-per-month > > restriction. G., what do you think about submitting this before nch's > > and R. Lee's

Re: [Attn: G.] Re: Contract charities (was Re: DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification)

2020-06-25 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/24/2020 8:47 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > Bump. Here's an updated text; all I did was remove the once-per-month > restriction. G., what do you think about submitting this before nch's > and R. Lee's possible victory? I'm happy to pend it (assuming > DracoLotto worked as

[Attn: G.] Re: Contract charities (was Re: DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification)

2020-06-24 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 at 19:30, James Cook wrote: > > The idea of a contract charity (which we've done before) is intriguing and > > this makes me want to go for the strongest standard (w/o objection). > > I was just in the middle of drafting a Reportor contract. Here's a > copy of your proto for

Re: DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification

2020-06-20 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
I disagree, honestly. I don't think it's a good idea, especially in regards to new players, to say "hey, so if there's a problem with the rules, you can do this to fix it, but you can get massively punished for doing something for the good of Agora." And if someone is unfamiliar with our criminal

Contract charities (was Re: DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification)

2020-06-20 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> The idea of a contract charity (which we've done before) is intriguing and > this makes me want to go for the strongest standard (w/o objection). I was just in the middle of drafting a Reportor contract. Here's a copy of your proto for charity contracts from last month: > Proto > - > Enact the

Re: DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification

2020-06-20 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/20/2020 11:29 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 at 01:45, Aris Merchant wrote: >> I think we need a free way of pending patch proposals. The voters appear to >> agree with me. A bit of spin here to correct :). 5 voters voted FOR, 5 voters voted AGAINST.

Re: DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification

2020-06-20 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 at 01:45, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > I think we need a free way of pending patch proposals. The voters appear to > agree with me. One voter's perspective: I voted FOR only to protect for the case that someone finds a serious bug with pending proposals.

Re: DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification

2020-06-19 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/19/20 9:08 PM, grok via agora-discussion wrote: > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020, 8:55 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> On 6/19/20 9:44 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: >>> A final solution, which I'm tossing in mostly as a joke, would be

Re: DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification

2020-06-19 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/19/20 9:06 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > Maybe we can even exempt patch proposals from popularity and > rewards to make sure they're truly for the public good. > > -- > Trigon This is a must for me to vote FOR any mechanic like that. I've been meaning to write a proposal

Re: DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification

2020-06-19 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/19/2020 7:06 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > On 2020-06-19 19:44, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: >> I think we need a free way of pending patch proposals. The voters appear to >> agree with me. I know some prominent and respected voices disagree, but the >>

Re: DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification

2020-06-19 Thread grok via agora-discussion
On Fri, Jun 19, 2020, 8:55 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/19/20 9:44 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > > A final solution, which I'm tossing in mostly as a joke, would be to just > > take the once a week limitation off my

Re: DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification

2020-06-19 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 2020-06-19 19:44, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: I think we need a free way of pending patch proposals. The voters appear to agree with me. I know some prominent and respected voices disagree, but the proposal passed, so clearly public sentiment presently favors something along

Re: DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification

2020-06-19 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/19/20 9:44 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > I think we need a free way of pending patch proposals. The voters appear to > agree with me. I know some prominent and respected voices disagree, but the > proposal passed, so clearly public sentiment presently favors something >

Re: DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification

2020-06-19 Thread Rebecca via agora-discussion
i actually genuinely think that the proposal i created is probably the best fix for this, it means you can certify a proposal but you accept the risk of a massive fine (and that fine will be nominal if it's actually, manifestly, incredibly necessary or whatever) On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 11:45 AM

DIS: How and Whether to Change Patch Certification

2020-06-19 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
I think we need a free way of pending patch proposals. The voters appear to agree with me. I know some prominent and respected voices disagree, but the proposal passed, so clearly public sentiment presently favors something along these lines. However, the mechanism I proposed might have been