Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Ready Proposals

+1 On 6/20/2020 2:02 AM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: On 2020-06-19 23:37, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: Rule 1623/11 Disinterested Proposals    A Proposal may be Interested or Disinterested. Each Proposal is    Interested when made. The Proposer of a Proposal

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Ready Proposals

On 6/20/20 5:01 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/20/2020 1:49 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 6/20/20 8:50 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >>> On 6/20/20 7:20 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: This may be the programmer in me speaking, but I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Ready Proposals

On 6/20/2020 1:49 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/20/20 8:50 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 6/20/20 7:20 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: >>> This may be the programmer in me speaking, but I don't think it's a good >>> idea to couple these two values

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Ready Proposals

On 6/20/20 8:50 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/20/20 7:20 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: >> This may be the programmer in me speaking, but I don't think it's a good >> idea to couple these two values together. I think it will be easier in >> the future if rules can look at

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Ready Proposals

On 6/20/20 7:14 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/20/20 12:23 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 6/19/20 11:20 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >>> You wrote a proposal designed specifically to only be used for narrow >>> patches and then immediately claimed authority to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Ready Proposals

On 6/20/20 8:02 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >> We have a fundamental philosophical difference. I do not think patches >> should require a payment to be distributed. I want them to be >> distributable without a fee. I don't particularly mind the author >> still getting a reward for it, but

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Ready Proposals

On 6/20/20 12:01 AM, Aris Merchant wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 9:21 PM nch via agora-discussion > > wrote: > > On 6/19/20 11:06 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > > On the other hand, I'd prefer not to have someone run against me > in an >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Ready Proposals

On 6/20/20 7:20 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > This may be the programmer in me speaking, but I don't think it's a good > idea to couple these two values together. I think it will be easier in > the future if rules can look at whether a proposal is distributable vs > whether it is

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Ready Proposals

On 6/19/20 11:36 PM, nch via agora-business wrote: > Below is v1 of Ready Proposals. It replaces the binary switch for > pending with a trinary one that distinguishes 'proper' pending and > 'special' pending. > > I also propose repealing Certifiable Patches, and amend the Promotor > method to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Ready Proposals

On 6/20/20 12:23 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/19/20 11:20 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >> You wrote a proposal designed specifically to only be used for narrow >> patches and then immediately claimed authority to use it because, in >> your arguments, literally any rule text

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Ready Proposals

On 2020-06-19 23:37, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: Rule 1623/11 Disinterested Proposals A Proposal may be Interested or Disinterested. Each Proposal is Interested when made. The Proposer of a Proposal may cause it to become Disinterested, without objection, but

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Ready Proposals

On 2020-06-19 23:01, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: The larger problem here is that I think proposals are essentially a volunteer effort. Charging people for them seems to me rather like charging people to hold offices. [1] It's community service. Why would you charge people for

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Ready Proposals

On 6/19/2020 9:06 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:> Without objection is a really high standard. My rule of thumb is that if > something requires without objection approval, someone will object. They > may even object for no reason, because they don't like the idea of a > proposal

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Ready Proposals

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 9:21 PM nch via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/19/20 11:06 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > > On the other hand, I'd prefer not to have someone run against me in an > > election on the platform "vote for me and I'll pend all your > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Ready Proposals

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 9:33 PM Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 9:23 PM nch via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> On 6/19/20 11:20 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >> > You wrote a proposal designed

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Ready Proposals

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 9:23 PM nch via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/19/20 11:20 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > > You wrote a proposal designed specifically to only be used for narrow > > patches and then immediately claimed authority to use it because,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Ready Proposals

On 6/19/20 11:20 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > You wrote a proposal designed specifically to only be used for narrow > patches and then immediately claimed authority to use it because, in > your arguments, literally any rule text impacts the rulekeepor and > therefore the rulekeepor can

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Ready Proposals

On 6/19/20 11:06 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 8:54 PM nch via agora-discussion > > wrote: > > On 6/19/20 10:36 PM, nch via agora-business wrote: > > Amend R2622, "Pending Proposals", to read in full: > > > >    

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Ready Proposals

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 8:54 PM nch via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/19/20 10:36 PM, nch via agora-business wrote: > > Amend R2622, "Pending Proposals", to read in full: > > > > Ready Method is an untracked proposal switch with possible values > >

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Ready Proposals

On 6/19/20 10:36 PM, nch via agora-business wrote: > Amend R2622, "Pending Proposals", to read in full: > >   Ready Method is an untracked proposal switch with possible values >   [None, Pended, Special] and default value None. If a proposal has >   a non-default Ready Method, it