Funny thing is, this is similar to our old/ancient auction system!
(I put this in one draft of the auction system last fall but it
got dropped). The old system had public bids, but the winning bid
price was the same for all bidders: if there were N lots, the
winners all paid the same Nth highes
Good analysis, thanks.
On Mon, 2 Jul 2018, Rebecca wrote:
> To more fully explain, say there are two players who want the top 2
> zombies, one of which contains 40 coins and the other 20. There are
> also 2 players who want the other 2 zombies, which have 0. They each
> bid 1 coin. One of the f
I support this notion, but to reduce guessing, the secret auction (or
whatever it's called) method should be used: You submit the *maximum*
you're willing to offer for the lot, but you actually only have to pay the
*minimum* winning amount, that is, the next highest bid + 1.
Example:
3 zombies ava
It's your system dude.
On Sun, 1 Jul 2018, Reuben Staley wrote:
> Sometimes I just want to leave this game and only return when there's an
> entirely new set of mechanics. This is too much drama for me.
>
> On Sun, Jul 1, 2018, 10:44 Rebecca wrote:
>
> > The reason is probably that, because
To more fully explain, say there are two players who want the top 2
zombies, one of which contains 40 coins and the other 20. There are
also 2 players who want the other 2 zombies, which have 0. They each
bid 1 coin. One of the first two players bids 2. The next person bids
3. And so on, and so for
Sometimes I just want to leave this game and only return when there's an
entirely new set of mechanics. This is too much drama for me.
On Sun, Jul 1, 2018, 10:44 Rebecca wrote:
> The reason is probably that, because there are four lots and bids are
> retractable, it would take a ton of bids to g
The reason is probably that, because there are four lots and bids are
retractable, it would take a ton of bids to get to the optimal point.
I maintain that we should have everyone submit ONE secret bid to the
auctioneer which is revealed publicly at week's end.
On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 2:39 AM, Keri
All that said, I have no damn clue why the minimum winning bid on
a zombie with 40 coins isn't 39 coins. It's a no-brainer, and if we were
sitting around a board game table I don't doubt the bidding action
would push that high out of straight rational board game play. That
really defies my ex
We purposefully set out a year ago to have a sustainable long-term
economy - from experience with our past "long-term" economies
we let then run for 2-3 years before getting bored enough to scrap.
The thing is, even real world economies tend towards concentrations
of wealth - the principle of i
To elaborate, it's actually an *encouraged* strategy which is why masters
can give their zombies back to agora by announcement, not needing notice
as with other zombie switch actions, since zombies have a defined
lifetime through resale value, doing so cycles them though faster.
On Sun, 1 Jul
The barring has nothing to do with it. The zombie prices were far too
low before the bar, too. "Get rid of current zombie to bid on the next one"
was definitely intended to be a valid strategy when I wrote the rule.
On Sun, 1 Jul 2018, Corona wrote:
> That is a logical consequence of barring
Not that I think blognomic is the best way of doing things. Unlike
blognomic, this game's main attraction is slow development, proposals
and legal interpretation: all of which are entirely equitable from the
outset.
On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 8:49 PM, Rebecca wrote:
> (sorry for the spamming but)
>
>
(sorry for the spamming but)
I think the old zombie system was (as Cuddlebeam would have it)
gerontocratic, But ultimately, all Agoran systems are meant to be
temporary and award non-scam-based victories based on economic or
systems manipulation over a reasonably short period of time. In a
period
That's nearly always objectively correct.
Note also that because bids can be retracted, PSS could have and
should have retracted his bid here and bid 3, giving em (even more)
free money. Zombie auctions cannot be sustained like this, although
zombies themselves are interesting.
On Sun, Jul 1, 201
That is a logical consequence of barring the players who are invested in
the auctions enough to already have purchased a zombie in past auctions.
You know, I think next time I will just get rid of my zombie before the
auction just so that I can purchase a new one and acquire its riches.
~Corona
The current land system is fun for some, but broken. I am able to
fully participate in Agoran polity with no engagement in its economic
systems, taking advantage of high apathy to make coins without being
bothered to grind out ways to make coins from land. Compare to
"boom/bust" system, which, whil
Thank you, I can't do math. I found 96/24=3.
On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 4:56 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
>
> Mail archive stamp on first one:
> Thu, 21 Jun 2018 13:36:53 -0700
> Mail archive stamp on second one:
> Mon, 25 Jun 2018 00:56:58 -0700
>
> I get ~83 hours?
>
> On Wed, 27 Jun 2018, Publius Scr
Mail archive stamp on first one:
Thu, 21 Jun 2018 13:36:53 -0700
Mail archive stamp on second one:
Mon, 25 Jun 2018 00:56:58 -0700
I get ~83 hours?
On Wed, 27 Jun 2018, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> Really? I thought that twg's change of bid was over 96 hours after
> mine. Here are
Really? I thought that twg's change of bid was over 96 hours after
mine. Here are the two messages, for reference:
https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-business@agoranomic.org/msg32122.html
https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-business@agoranomic.org/msg32174.html
On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 2:48 PM, Ker
Just to confirm before I pay: The reason that twg's bid of 20 and my
change to a bid of 2 did not work is because it was over 3 days after
the last bid change, correct?
On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 1:25 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
>
> The zombie auction has ended.
>
> PSS has won Kenyon for 16 Coins.
> V
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