DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2010-10-14 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: >The Promotor CAN distribute an Urgent Proposal as soon as >possible, unless it ceases to be Urgent in the mean time. Failure >to do so is the Class 1 Crime of Lack of Urgency. "The Promotor CAN distribute an Urgent Proposal, and SHALL do so as soon as possib

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals 6834-41 are probably failing quorum due to succession weirdness

2010-09-17 Thread Keba
Am Freitag, den 17.09.2010, 10:13 -0400 schrieb Geoffrey Spear: > On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Keba wrote: > > An invasion consisting of one player? (Or miss I someone?) Did I do > > anything wrong to deal me out? > > One player? Blognomic's Riddler took direct action to make you the > Speak

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals 6834-41 are probably failing quorum due to succession weirdness

2010-09-17 Thread Ed Murphy
Wooble wrote: > On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Keba wrote: >> An invasion consisting of one player? (Or miss I someone?) Did I do >> anything wrong to deal me out? > > One player? Blognomic's Riddler took direct action to make you the > Speaker; this conspiracy touches the highest levels of b

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals 6834-41 are probably failing quorum due to succession weirdness

2010-09-17 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Keba wrote: > An invasion consisting of one player? (Or miss I someone?) Did I do > anything wrong to deal me out? One player? Blognomic's Riddler took direct action to make you the Speaker; this conspiracy touches the highest levels of both BN and Agora. And ce

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals 6834-41 are probably failing quorum due to succession weirdness

2010-09-17 Thread Keba
Geoffrey Spear wrote: > If I haven't voted yet, I vote AGAINST each proposal from 6834-6841; > without a recent referee's report I can't be bothered to figure out > who's on my team, and I'm not voting FOR an interested proposal by a > non-team-member as a protest against our Honored Speaker messin

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2010-04-25 Thread Elliott Hird
On 25 April 2010 21:07, Sean Hunt wrote: > Proposal: Dictatorship Scam (AI=3, II=1, Distributable via fee) > {{{ > Enact a new rule at power-3: >      coppro CAN, with Notice, cause this Rule to perform one or more >      arbitrary Rule Changes. > }}} HELP OH GOD WHAT DO WE DO

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2009-10-22 Thread comex
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > coppro wrote: > >> Proposal: Guaranteed to Pass (AI=3, II=1) >> {{ >> Increase the Power of Rule 104 to 4. >> }} > > The hell it is.  This would increase the amendment number. it wouldn't, fwiw -- -c.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2009-10-22 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > 2247 is The Janitor.  Did you mean 1750 (Read the Ruleset Week)? Don't you think it's cruel to punish someone for winning the Janitor election by making them read the ruleset to find things to clean?

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2009-10-22 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > Proposal: Guaranteed to Pass (AI=3, II=1) > {{ > Increase the Power of Rule 104 to 4. > }} The hell it is. This would increase the amendment number. > Proposal: Cruel and Unusual Punishment (AI=1, II=1) > {{ > WHEREAS the Ruleset is so long that forcing someone to read it would

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2009-10-22 Thread Sean Hunt
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 9:48 AM, ais523 wrote: > On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 09:44 -0700, Sean Hunt wrote: >> Proposal: Trophy Repeal (AI=3, II=1) >> {{ >> Repeal Rule 2105. >> Repeal Rule 2029. >> }} >> >> Proposal: Guaranteed to Fail (AI=3, II=1) >> {{ >> Repeal Rule 104. >> }} >> >> Proposal: Guarant

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals 6403-06 are failing quorum

2009-07-30 Thread Ed Murphy
C-walker wrote: > I vote as follows a number of times equal to my voting limit on each decision: [snip] >> 6406 D2 2.0 c-walkerProposal Tweaking Part 2.1 > FOR Ineffective, you already did so before.

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals 6403-06 are failing quorum

2009-07-27 Thread Ed Murphy
Quazie wrote: > I vote present on proposals 6403-6406 if possible. It isn't, you were inactive when they were distributed. You'll be able to vote again starting with 6414.

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2009-04-13 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: > Proposal: Extra votes? (AI=2) > > Amend the following paragraph in Rule 2019: > > e) Wielder of Extra Votes. The Wielder of Extra Votes at the > start of an ordinary proposal's voting period has a voting > limit on that proposal of 1.4 times what it would

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2009-04-13 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 16:10 -0400, comex wrote: > Proposal: Extra votes? (AI=2) > > Amend the following paragraph in Rule 2019: > > e) Wielder of Extra Votes. The Wielder of Extra Votes at the > start of an ordinary proposal's voting period has a voting > limit on that pr

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-11-10 Thread Elliott Hird
On 10 Nov 2008, at 08:16, Taral wrote: The frequent distributions are really becoming a nuisance. Sorry... but there were _sixteen_ proposals. -- ehird

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-11-09 Thread Taral
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Warrigal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It makes sense, but it doesn't work. Ah, good point. -- Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-11-09 Thread Elliott Hird
On 9 Nov 2008, at 20:40, Elliott Hird wrote: On 9 Nov 2008, at 20:23, Warrigal wrote: It makes sense, but it doesn't work. Proposals do not have power. -- ehird Ignore me and my misreadings. -- ehird

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-11-09 Thread Elliott Hird
On 9 Nov 2008, at 20:23, Warrigal wrote: It makes sense, but it doesn't work. Proposals do not have power. -- ehird

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-11-09 Thread Warrigal
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9 Nov 2008, at 19:04, Taral wrote: >> If it has passed, set the power of "No more distribution spam" to 2. > > Nonsensical. It makes sense, but it doesn't work. "It has passed" is not defined by the rules; it's not clear

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-11-09 Thread Elliott Hird
On 9 Nov 2008, at 19:04, Taral wrote: If it has passed, set the power of "No more distribution spam" to 2. Nonsensical. -- ehird

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-10-23 Thread comex
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Pavitra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 22 October 2008 08:34:18 pm comex wrote: >> Hmm. I should concatenate 1000 Bayes proposals, and stick an >> intent to ratify in there. > > CFJ 1125 :(

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-10-22 Thread Pavitra
On Wednesday 22 October 2008 08:34:18 pm comex wrote: > Hmm. I should concatenate 1000 Bayes proposals, and stick an > intent to ratify in there. CFJ 1125

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-10-22 Thread comex
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 8:39 PM, Pavitra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Proto-proposal / kibbutz: Instead of having Bayes make proposals till > it finds one it will vote for (>= 50%), have it make proposals for a > fixed amount of real time and pick the one it likes most strongly. > This should resul

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-10-22 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Pavitra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 22 October 2008 07:46:51 pm Ian Kelly wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Pavitra > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Proto-proposal / kibbutz: Instead of having Bayes make proposals >> > till it finds one it wi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-10-22 Thread Pavitra
On Wednesday 22 October 2008 07:46:51 pm Ian Kelly wrote: > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Pavitra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Proto-proposal / kibbutz: Instead of having Bayes make proposals > > till it finds one it will vote for (>= 50%), have it make > > proposals for a fixed amount of rea

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-10-22 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Pavitra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Proto-proposal / kibbutz: Instead of having Bayes make proposals till > it finds one it will vote for (>= 50%), have it make proposals for a > fixed amount of real time and pick the one it likes most strongly. > This should resul

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-10-22 Thread Pavitra
On Wednesday 22 October 2008 05:32:13 pm Elliott Hird wrote: > On 22 Oct 2008, at 23:30, Bayes wrote: > > Bayes submits the following proposal, titled "Plugging grafts > > possibility hang," > > (AI=1): > > comex ran this despite me yelling at him not to. Proto-proposal / kibbutz: Instead of havin

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-10-22 Thread Elliott Hird
On 22 Oct 2008, at 23:30, Bayes wrote: Bayes submits the following proposal, titled "Plugging grafts possibility hang," (AI=1): comex ran this despite me yelling at him not to. -- ehird

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-10-01 Thread Elliott Hird
On 02/10/2008, Ben Caplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 01 October 2008 05:01:41 pm Elliott Hird wrote: >> On 1 Oct 2008, at 22:35, Ben Caplan wrote: >> > I believe it was decided that the most natural Monsterization >> > of "judgment" was "Monsteredict". Can you write a script to make

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-10-01 Thread Ben Caplan
On Wednesday 01 October 2008 05:01:41 pm Elliott Hird wrote: > On 1 Oct 2008, at 22:35, Ben Caplan wrote: > > I believe it was decided that the most natural Monsterization > > of "judgment" was "Monsteredict". Can you write a script to make > > that kind of analysis? > > Did I say it'd produce the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-10-01 Thread ihope
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1 Oct 2008, at 23:27, Ian Kelly wrote: >> If I'm not mistaken, BAYES actually stands for "BAYES is not an acronym." > > BAYES stands for BAYES: Acronym? You Egg! Shenanigans... It's a Calvin and Hobbes-style acronym for t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-10-01 Thread Elliott Hird
On 1 Oct 2008, at 23:27, Ian Kelly wrote: On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 1 Oct 2008, Elliott Hird wrote: On 1 Oct 2008, at 23:09, Ian Kelly wrote: What exactly is the goal of this? None of these proposals are anything that we might actually c

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-10-01 Thread Elliott Hird
On 1 Oct 2008, at 23:27, Ian Kelly wrote: On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 1 Oct 2008, Elliott Hird wrote: On 1 Oct 2008, at 23:09, Ian Kelly wrote: What exactly is the goal of this? None of these proposals are anything that we might actually

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-10-01 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 1 Oct 2008, Elliott Hird wrote: >> On 1 Oct 2008, at 23:09, Ian Kelly wrote: >>> What exactly is the goal of this? None of these proposals are >>> anything that we might actually consider adopting. >> >> Bayes is a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-10-01 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 1 Oct 2008, Elliott Hird wrote: > On 1 Oct 2008, at 23:09, Ian Kelly wrote: >> What exactly is the goal of this? None of these proposals are >> anything that we might actually consider adopting. > > Bayes is a Fully Mechanical Automation of Gamular Playing, Striving > to Play in As Many F

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-10-01 Thread comex
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What exactly is the goal of this? None of these proposals are > anything that we might actually consider adopting. I would vote to repeal Rule 2142... -- hopefully minor evil

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-10-01 Thread Elliott Hird
On 1 Oct 2008, at 23:09, Ian Kelly wrote: What exactly is the goal of this? None of these proposals are anything that we might actually consider adopting. -root Bayes is a Fully Mechanical Automation of Gamular Playing, Striving to Play in As Many Forms As Possible, Regardless of Skill Level,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-10-01 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It isn't usually meant to submit this fast, but comex fixed it so that the > proposals were shorter, so this is an example. What exactly is the goal of this? None of these proposals are anything that we might actually consi

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-10-01 Thread Elliott Hird
On 1 Oct 2008, at 23:02, Bayes wrote: I submit the following proposal, titled "Ordinary for a of ff " (AI=1): {{{ Repeal rule 2142 Modify Rule 2138, replace: c) A term explicitly defined by that chamber. A

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-10-01 Thread Elliott Hird
On 1 Oct 2008, at 22:35, Ben Caplan wrote: I believe it was decided that the most natural Monsterization of "judgment" was "Monsteredict". Can you write a script to make that kind of analysis? Did I say it'd produce the most natural monsterization all the time?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-10-01 Thread Ben Caplan
On Wednesday 01 October 2008 03:20:04 pm Elliott Hird wrote: > On 1 Oct 2008, at 20:54, Ed Murphy wrote: > > Make it a bit more grammar-specific and I'll support it for > > Mad Scientist. > > Heh, it wouldn't be able to do Monsterization atm, but I could > definitely write one - detecting nouns sho

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-10-01 Thread Elliott Hird
On 1 Oct 2008, at 20:54, Ed Murphy wrote: Make it a bit more grammar-specific and I'll support it for Mad Scientist. Heh, it wouldn't be able to do Monsterization atm, but I could definitely write one - detecting nouns shouldn't be too hard.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-10-01 Thread Ed Murphy
tusho wrote: > On 1 Oct 2008, at 19:05, Bayes wrote: > >> I submit the following proposal, titled "No spring ii office >> and" (AI=1): >> {{{ >> >> If proposal 5111 was adopted, amend rule 1871 by adding the >> following information: >> with this text: >> the sum of the source and destinatio

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-10-01 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 1 Oct 2008, Elliott Hird wrote: > On 1 Oct 2008, at 19:05, Bayes wrote: > >> >> I submit the following proposal, titled "No spring ii office and" (AI=1): >> {{{ >> >> If proposal 5111 was adopted, amend rule 1871 by adding the following >> information: >> with this text: >> the sum of

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-10-01 Thread Elliott Hird
On 1 Oct 2008, at 19:05, Bayes wrote: I submit the following proposal, titled "No spring ii office and" (AI=1): {{{ If proposal 5111 was adopted, amend rule 1871 by adding the following information: with this text: the sum of the source and destination are the nominees, quorum is 1/2

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-10-01 Thread Elliott Hird
On 1 Oct 2008, at 19:06, Bayes wrote: I submit the following proposal, titled " the" (AI=1): {{{ Was only meant to send once, sorry.

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals: Chambers II

2008-07-25 Thread Charles Reiss
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 15:16, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I submit the following proposals: [snip] > Create a rule titled "Grand Poobah" with Power=2 and the text: > {{ > Create a rule titled "The Grand Poobah" with Power 2 and this text: Oops? -woggle

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals!

2008-07-02 Thread ihope
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Quazie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any member of the species Homo sapiens, past or present, is a person Why do you say "member of the species Homo sapiens" rather than "human"? The latter is over 5 times as short counting by syllables, words, letters, characters,

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals!

2008-07-02 Thread Sgeo
> --- > Replace the following sentence in R 2124 > > The Executor of such an announcement of intent CANNOT support > nor object to it. > > with > > The Executor of such an announcement of intent CANNOT support > nor object to it. A partnership of which the Executor is a party > CANNOT support nor

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals 5246-5253

2007-10-07 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: On Sunday 07 October 2007, Josiah Worcester wrote: On Sunday 07 October 2007 16:26:07 comex wrote: On Sunday 07 October 2007, Josiah Worcester wrote: I vote SUPPORT on proposals 5246 through 5253. I CFJ on the following: pikhq voted FOR a proposal on or about Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals 5246-5253

2007-10-07 Thread Ed Murphy
pikhq wrote: On Sunday 07 October 2007 16:26:07 comex wrote: On Sunday 07 October 2007, Josiah Worcester wrote: I vote SUPPORT on proposals 5246 through 5253. I CFJ on the following: pikhq voted FOR a proposal on or about Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:19:46 -0600. I vote FOR those proposals, making t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals 5246-5253

2007-10-07 Thread comex
On Sunday 07 October 2007, Josiah Worcester wrote: > On Sunday 07 October 2007 16:26:07 comex wrote: > > On Sunday 07 October 2007, Josiah Worcester wrote: > > > I vote SUPPORT on proposals 5246 through 5253. > > > > I CFJ on the following: > > pikhq voted FOR a proposal on or about Sun, 7 Oct 2007

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals 5246-5253

2007-10-07 Thread Josiah Worcester
On Sunday 07 October 2007 16:26:07 comex wrote: > On Sunday 07 October 2007, Josiah Worcester wrote: > > I vote SUPPORT on proposals 5246 through 5253. > > I CFJ on the following: > pikhq voted FOR a proposal on or about Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:19:46 -0600. > I vote FOR those proposals, making the C

DIS: Re: BUS: proposals: truthfulness

2007-08-20 Thread Ed Murphy
Zefram wrote: Amend rule 2149 by inserting the words "or which e is reckless regarding the veracity of" at the end of each sentence in the second paragraph. I still think this should define "reckless", perhaps by example.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2007-06-20 Thread Ian Kelly
On 6/20/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ian Kelly wrote: > The ballot allotment time of a proposal of which the chamber The term "chamber" is no longer defined. Would be clearer if you define it. Whoops. >Increase the power of Rule 2142 to 2, and amend it by >replacing the text "1

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2007-06-20 Thread Zefram
Ian Kelly wrote: > The ballot allotment time of a proposal of which the chamber The term "chamber" is no longer defined. Would be clearer if you define it. >Increase the power of Rule 2142 to 2, and amend it by >replacing the text "1.1" with "2". Been thinking about this. Kicking a proposa

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: proposals

2007-06-19 Thread Michael Slone
On 6/19/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No, it was just a bit of wordplay. I'm fairly certain it was also a historical reference. -- Maud

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: proposals

2007-06-19 Thread Zefram
Roger Hicks wrote: >I was a bit confused by the Threat thing anyway. Was that a hold-over from >some past mechanic? No, it was just a bit of wordplay. -zefram

DIS: Re: BUS: proposals

2007-06-19 Thread Roger Hicks
[Moves the PT reporting requirement into the PT rule. Incidentally removes the "Threat" item, which we're not using, from rule 1377. Also gives a more accurate overall description of the Herald.] I was a bit confused by the Threat thing anyway. Was that a hold-over from some past mechanic?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2007-06-14 Thread Ed Murphy
root wrote: As somebody else pointed out recently, one of the original purpose for Agoran Contracts IIRC was to house the list of cards, which had grown long enough that it was just taking up too much space in the ruleset. If a future rule gets similarly long, we could just amend Rule 1681 to

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2007-06-14 Thread Kerim Aydin
Zefram wrote: > We can currently have rules modified by rules, so no problem there. > We've previously had subgames involving non-proposed rule changes, > of course, most notably the Frankenstein Monster. I didn't say it was impossible (or even difficult) in theory, it's just a question of elega

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2007-06-14 Thread Zefram
Kerim Aydin wrote: >But lest we forget, a more important reason to separate was that we >wanted card text to be modifiable by means other than Proposals We can currently have rules modified by rules, so no problem there. We've previously had subgames involving non-proposed rule changes, of course,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2007-06-14 Thread Ian Kelly
On 6/14/07, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As the current Contracts rule requires proposals to amend contracts, it doesn't offer that benefit. Also, the current Contracts rule doesn't allow much in resolving conflicts between Contracts and Rules. I think a compromise is hard-coding each

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2007-06-14 Thread Kerim Aydin
Zefram wrote: > Ian Kelly wrote: > > the list of cards, which had grown > >long enough that it was just taking up too much space in the ruleset. > > Because, of course, it is physically impossible for an email message to > be longer than 347 kB. It was also a ma

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2007-06-14 Thread Ian Kelly
On 6/14/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ian Kelly wrote: > the list of cards, which had grown >long enough that it was just taking up too much space in the ruleset. Because, of course, it is physically impossible for an email message to be longer than 347

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2007-06-14 Thread Zefram
Ian Kelly wrote: > the list of cards, which had grown >long enough that it was just taking up too much space in the ruleset. Because, of course, it is physically impossible for an email message to be longer than 347 kB. -zefram

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2007-06-14 Thread Ian Kelly
On 6/14/07, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If that's all you're concerned about, why not support Zefram's > proposal to require regular publication instead? > > -root Because I don't see the benefit of having more than one agreement that all players of Agora must be bound by. The r

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2007-06-14 Thread Zefram
Ian Kelly wrote: >If that's all you're concerned about, It's not all e's concerned about, as e indicated ("part of the reason ..."). Clearly, e has some taste. -zefram

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2007-06-14 Thread Roger Hicks
If that's all you're concerned about, why not support Zefram's proposal to require regular publication instead? -root Because I don't see the benefit of having more than one agreement that all players of Agora must be bound by. The rules are broad and adaptable enough that there is no need. I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2007-06-14 Thread Zefram
Roger Hicks wrote: >I have yet to see this elusive Agoran Contract... It's concerned with advertising Agora, and institutes the official position (but not an office) of Envoy. I have no idea who is presently the Envoy. The whole Contract is rather being ignored. Amending rule 2135 to be more ge

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2007-06-14 Thread Ian Kelly
On 6/14/07, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6/13/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Roger Hicks wrote: > >R2109 Agoran Contracts is repealed. > > Not planning to keep our one Agoran Contract on as a rule? I have yet to see this elusive Agoran Contract...part of the reason why I'

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2007-06-14 Thread Roger Hicks
On 6/13/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Roger Hicks wrote: >R2109 Agoran Contracts is repealed. Not planning to keep our one Agoran Contract on as a rule? I have yet to see this elusive Agoran Contract...part of the reason why I'm in favor of canning this rule. R1626 Applications is

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2007-06-13 Thread Zefram
Roger Hicks wrote: >R2109 Agoran Contracts is repealed. Not planning to keep our one Agoran Contract on as a rule? >R1626 Applications is repealed. R1365 will need some amendment. -zefram

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: proposals

2007-06-12 Thread Zefram
Michael Slone wrote: >Don't you mean ``to become registered'' or ``to register''? No. >Otherwise, saying ``root is currently registered'' is the same as >saying ``root currently becomes a player'', which is odd at best. In that sentence "registered" is an adjective, not a verb. [CFJ by announce

DIS: Re: BUS: proposals

2007-06-12 Thread Michael Slone
On 6/12/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Each entity at any time either is or is not a player. The verb "to be registered" means to become a player, and the verb "to be deregistered" means to cease to be a player. Don't you mean ``to become registered'' or ``to register'

DIS: Re: BUS: proposals

2007-06-09 Thread Kerim Aydin
Zefram wrote: > Amend rule 1742 by deleting the sentence > > If a Civil CFJ is called by anyone who is not party to that > agreement, then it lacks standing and shall be dismissed. Yet another terrible idea. What right does Agora have to stick its nose in an agreement when all its m

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: proposals

2007-06-09 Thread Zefram
Roger Hicks wrote: >Does this mean that Agora can judge agreements that aren't made under Agoran >law? ie. my Bob's Quality Cards agreement? That depends entirely on the interpretation of the first paragraph of R1742. -zefram

DIS: Re: BUS: proposals

2007-06-09 Thread Roger Hicks
proposal: enforce agreements AI: 1 {{{ Amend rule 1742 by deleting the sentence If a Civil CFJ is called by anyone who is not party to that agreement, then it lacks standing and shall be dismissed. }}} -zefram Does this mean that Agora can judge agreements that aren't made u

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2007-05-25 Thread Roger Hicks
Sure, that makes sense. I forgot about that rule. I will re-propose shortly. BobTHJ On 5/25/07, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/25/07, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If a provision were added to pardon errors that appear on the Secretary's > weekly report if they go unnoti

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2007-05-25 Thread Ian Kelly
On 5/25/07, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If a provision were added to pardon errors that appear on the Secretary's weekly report if they go unnoticed for a week following that report, would that be satisfactory? At the most you would be looking at unrolling 2 weeks of history then (one

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2007-05-25 Thread Roger Hicks
On 5/25/07, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/25/07, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If a rule states that a Magnate pays a specified type and amount of > property, then that property is transferred to the designated receiving > Magnate instantly (if possible) upon that requirem

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2007-05-25 Thread Ian Kelly
On 5/25/07, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If a rule states that a Magnate pays a specified type and amount of property, then that property is transferred to the designated receiving Magnate instantly (if possible) upon that requirement taking effect. Ick. My apologies for not having c

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: proposals: deregistrations

2007-05-22 Thread Ed Murphy
Zefram wrote: quazie wrote: They can be removed from being judges on them can't they?? Takes a while. I think we've got some still waiting on Peter. 1657-8, but the deliberation period has expired, so CotC comex may recuse em at will. (The CotC database should be mostly caught up at this

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: proposals: deregistrations

2007-05-22 Thread Zefram
quazie wrote: >They can be removed from being judges on them can't they?? Takes a while. I think we've got some still waiting on Peter. -zefram

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: proposals: deregistrations

2007-05-22 Thread quazie
Zefram wrote: comex wrote: How so? We have in fact had several CFJs assigned to them. -zefram They can be removed from being judges on them can't they??

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: proposals: deregistrations

2007-05-22 Thread Zefram
comex wrote: >How so? We have in fact had several CFJs assigned to them. -zefram

DIS: Re: BUS: proposals: deregistrations

2007-05-22 Thread comex
On 5/22/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [The long-term inactive players have been screwing up CFJ assignment. How so? R698 only says "Each active player is eligible to judge..."

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: proposals on activity

2007-05-06 Thread quazie
Ed Murphy wrote: We really should re-enact Switches. I support this

DIS: Re: BUS: proposals on activity

2007-05-06 Thread Ed Murphy
Zefram wrote: I hereby submit the following proposal, titled "initialise activity", and set its AI to 1.1: {{{ Amend rule 2130 by appending the paragraph: Registration as a player causes the new player to become active. All non-players are inactive. }}} I hereby submit the follo

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