DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2494 remanded to Quazie by Arnold Bros (est. 1905) (REASSIGN), Pavitra (AFFIRM)

2009-05-20 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 18:53 +0100, Elliott Hird wrote: 2009/5/20 Quazie quazieno...@gmail.com: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2494 I judge TRUE by my own arguments. I intend, with two

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2494 remanded to Quazie by Arnold Bros (est. 1905) (REASSIGN), Pavitra (AFFIRM)

2009-05-20 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 20 May 2009, Alex Smith wrote: On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 18:53 +0100, Elliott Hird wrote: 2009/5/20 Quazie quazieno...@gmail.com: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2494 I judge TRUE by my

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2494 remanded to Quazie by Arnold Bros (est. 1905) (REASSIGN), Pavitra (AFFIRM)

2009-05-20 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 11:37 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Wed, 20 May 2009, Alex Smith wrote: On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 18:53 +0100, Elliott Hird wrote: 2009/5/20 Quazie quazieno...@gmail.com: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Detail:

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2494 remanded to Quazie by Arnold Bros (est. 1905) (REASSIGN), Pavitra (AFFIRM)

2009-05-20 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 11:52 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Wed, 20 May 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: I intend, with two support, to appeal this judgment because remanding here was an awful tiebreakre. I submit the following proposal, Two tiered tiebreaker, AI 2.0:

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2494 remanded to Quazie by Arnold Bros (est. 1905) (REASSIGN), Pavitra (AFFIRM)

2009-05-20 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 12:52, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Amend Rule 911 (Appeal Cases) by inserting the following new paragraph immediately after the paragraph in which the above deletion occurred:      If the time period ends with no majority judgement, then:      - if the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2494 remanded to Quazie by Arnold Bros (est. 1905) (REASSIGN), Pavitra (AFFIRM)

2009-05-20 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 20 May 2009, Alex Smith wrote: On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 11:52 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: [The Justiciar can just submit an opinion when e feels like it, and it's used as the tiebreaker when needed]. Can you remove the hot-or-cold thing at the same time? This serves a similar purpose,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2494 remanded to Quazie by Arnold Bros (est. 1905) (REASSIGN), Pavitra (AFFIRM)

2009-05-20 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 14:19 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Wed, 20 May 2009, Alex Smith wrote: On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 11:52 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: [The Justiciar can just submit an opinion when e feels like it, and it's used as the tiebreaker when needed]. Can you remove the hot-or-cold

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2494 remanded to Quazie by Arnold Bros (est. 1905) (REASSIGN), Pavitra (AFFIRM)

2009-05-20 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: I withdraw my previous proposal, Two tiered tiebreaker. I submit the following proposal, Two tiered tiebreaker, AI 2.0, ais523 coauthor: - Amend Rule

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2494 remanded to Quazie by Arnold Bros (est. 1905) (REASSIGN), Pavitra (AFFIRM)

2009-05-20 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 20 May 2009, Aaron Goldfein wrote: - otherwise, the case enters an overtime period, which lasts for four days. The CotC SHOULD publicly remind the Justiciar when an overtime period begins. During this period, if the Justiciar publishes a Justiciar's

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2494 remanded to Quazie by Arnold Bros (est. 1905) (REASSIGN), Pavitra (AFFIRM)

2009-05-20 Thread Sean Hunt
Kerim Aydin wrote: If the time period ends with no majority judgement, then: - if the Justiciar has published an opinion on the case clearly marked as the Justiciar's Opinion and indicating a valid judgement, and that judgement is the same as one given by

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2494 remanded to Quazie by Arnold Bros (est. 1905) (REASSIGN), Pavitra (AFFIRM)

2009-05-20 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 20 May 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: 7-man panel: REMAND REMAND REMAND REASSIGN REASSIGN OVERRULE -no judgment- the Justiciar picks OVERRULE, and that's the judgment. *shrug* I thought about making the Justiciar pick only from among the ones with most votes, but frankly, panels

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2494 remanded to Quazie by Arnold Bros (est. 1905) (REASSIGN), Pavitra (AFFIRM)

2009-05-20 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: - Otherwise, the Justiciar (or, failing that, the CotC) shall choose a judgment such that if every undecided panelist chose that judgment, no other judgment would have been chosen more often (so in the above instance, e could pick REMAND or REASSIGN) Consider the actual recent

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2494 remanded to Quazie by Arnold Bros (est. 1905) (REASSIGN), Pavitra (AFFIRM)

2009-05-20 Thread Benjamin Caplan
Kerim Aydin wrote: You mean affirm based on the arguments of Murphy and Goethe where both appellants argued for a non-affirm? Did that mean that Pavitra wasn't paying attention, or that e accepted the arguments of Murphy (that the judgement was wrong) but realized from the arguments of