Re: DIS: [proto] Retroactive Events: a refactor of ratification

2020-02-18 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 17:34, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 at 11:17, James Cook via agora-discussion > wrote: > > This is a counter-proto to Alexis's "Ratification by Legal Fiction", in > > the sense that I think it also fixes the problem of ratification > >

Re: DIS: [proto] Retroactive Events: a refactor of ratification

2020-02-14 Thread Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 at 11:17, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > This is a counter-proto to Alexis's "Ratification by Legal Fiction", in > the sense that I think it also fixes the problem of ratification > failing due to minimal gamestate changes being ambiguous. It is a more > radical

Re: DIS: [proto] Retroactive Events: a refactor of ratification

2020-02-08 Thread Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 at 19:41, omd via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 8:17 AM James Cook via agora-discussion > wrote: > > This is a counter-proto to Alexis's "Ratification by Legal Fiction", in > > the sense that I think it also fixes the problem of ratification > > failing

Re: DIS: [proto] Retroactive Events: a refactor of ratification

2020-02-03 Thread Tanner Swett via agora-discussion
On Mon, Feb 3, 2020, 02:10 Aris Merchant via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Sun, Feb 2, 2020 at 10:43 PM Tanner Swett via agora-discussion > wrote: > [...] > > For what it's worth, I like this language (even though it will certainly > > never make it into Agora,

Re: DIS: [proto] Retroactive Events: a refactor of ratification

2020-02-02 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Feb 2, 2020 at 10:43 PM Tanner Swett via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2020, 01:05 omd via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > Hmm... Good point. It shouldn't be. The point was to clarify that > > even if the gamestate doesn't have a list of

Re: DIS: [proto] Retroactive Events: a refactor of ratification

2020-02-02 Thread Tanner Swett via agora-discussion
On Mon, Feb 3, 2020, 01:05 omd via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Hmm... Good point. It shouldn't be. The point was to clarify that > even if the gamestate doesn't have a list of legal fictions, legal > fictions can still exist due to rules (which are themselves

Re: DIS: [proto] Retroactive Events: a refactor of ratification

2020-02-02 Thread omd via agora-discussion
On Sun, Feb 2, 2020 at 5:27 AM Tanner Swett via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 1, 2020, 19:41 omd via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > A rule may state or imply that 'X is treated as if it > > were Y', but this is considered an attempt to

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: [proto] Retroactive Events: a refactor of ratification

2020-02-02 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sun, 2 Feb 2020 at 01:10, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > This is certainly a hell of a lot simpler than the alternative. You've > dealt pretty convincingly with my complaint about generality; it's not > general, but it looks like the lack of generality doesn't actually > turn out

Re: DIS: [proto] Retroactive Events: a refactor of ratification

2020-02-02 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sun, 2 Feb 2020 at 13:27, Tanner Swett via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sat, Feb 1, 2020, 19:41 omd via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > A rule may state or imply that 'X is treated as if it > > were Y', but this is considered an attempt to

Re: DIS: [proto] Retroactive Events: a refactor of ratification

2020-02-02 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sun, 2 Feb 2020 at 00:41, omd via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 8:17 AM James Cook via agora-discussion > wrote: > > This is a counter-proto to Alexis's "Ratification by Legal Fiction", in > > the sense that I think it also fixes the problem of ratification > > failing due

Re: DIS: [proto] Retroactive Events: a refactor of ratification

2020-02-02 Thread Tanner Swett via agora-discussion
On Sat, Feb 1, 2020, 19:41 omd via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > A rule may state or imply that 'X is treated as if it > were Y', but this is considered an attempt to redefine X, > subject to the usual standards for definitions. > What's the

Fwd: BUS: Re: DIS: [proto] Retroactive Events: a refactor of ratification

2020-02-01 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
(TTttDF forward.) On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 8:17 AM James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > > This is a counter-proto to Alexis's "Ratification by Legal Fiction", in > the sense that I think it also fixes the problem of ratification > failing due to minimal gamestate changes being ambiguous. It is

Re: DIS: [proto] Retroactive Events: a refactor of ratification

2020-02-01 Thread omd via agora-discussion
On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 8:17 AM James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > This is a counter-proto to Alexis's "Ratification by Legal Fiction", in > the sense that I think it also fixes the problem of ratification > failing due to minimal gamestate changes being ambiguous. It is a more > radical

Re: DIS: [proto] Retroactive Events: a refactor of ratification

2020-02-01 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 at 16:30, ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk wrote: > On Sat, 2020-02-01 at 16:17 +, James Cook via agora-discussion > wrote: > > This is a counter-proto to Alexis's "Ratification by Legal Fiction", > > in the sense that I think it also fixes the problem of ratification > > failing

Re: DIS: [proto] Retroactive Events: a refactor of ratification

2020-02-01 Thread AIS523--- via agora-discussion
On Sat, 2020-02-01 at 16:17 +, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > This is a counter-proto to Alexis's "Ratification by Legal Fiction", > in the sense that I think it also fixes the problem of ratification > failing due to minimal gamestate changes being ambiguous. It is a > more radical