Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Notice of Honour

2017-10-22 Thread VJ Rada
Surely so! I strongly remember resolving that batch, it was a huge one. On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 7:15 AM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > Depitizing for rulekeepor entails taking the office over (unless you resign > after of course). I think we'd all appreciate the short term work but

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-22 Thread Aris Merchant
I think you mean pend, not spend. -Aris On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 2:52 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > I create and spend a shiny to spend the following > Name: Repeal the Reportor > AI: 1 > Author: me > Text: Repeal rule 2446 "The Agoran Newspaper" > > -- > From V.J. Rada

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-22 Thread VJ Rada
It's literally a complete sinecure. We have 20 offices now, I think. And 20 players. It seems like pruning non-essential offices is sorely needed, and this one is the least essential possible. While all the other offices have a report containing information, this office is just "make a report!"

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3581 assigned to Alexis

2017-10-22 Thread ATMunn .
This, this is why I hate Gmail. On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 7:23 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 at 20:11 Kerim Aydin wrote: > >> >> >> On Sat, 21 Oct 2017, Ørjan Johansen wrote: >> > In a below quoted message of 19 October, ATMunn

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-22 Thread VJ Rada
>From now on, I will "create the following and spend a shiny to pend it" On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 10:42 AM, ATMunn . wrote: > Also, "create and spend a shiny to pend the following" implies that you're > creating a shiny, and then spending it, which is IMPOSSIBLE. > > On

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-22 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 23 Oct 2017, VJ Rada wrote: > We should probably just repeal Agronomy? It's a really complicated > modification of five things that creates so many empty reports that > the reportor forgot to publish them until last week. And the person > whose idea it was left immediately after coming

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7923-7929

2017-10-22 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 23 Oct 2017, VJ Rada wrote: > Hey fun fact: there's still a use of Organisations in the rule > post-this. The reason being, my "Estate Auction Fix" is listed after > "Contracts" and amends the rule "Estate Auctions" to mention Orgs. Um, actually, Contracts first overwrote the text that

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Notice of Honour

2017-10-22 Thread Reuben Staley
Are people still not getting my messages? It's in a thread with the title "Deputising for the rulekeepor". -- Trigon On Oct 22, 2017 8:31 AM, "Alexis Hunt" wrote: > Huh? When? > > On Sun, Oct 22, 2017, 10:26 Reuben Staley, > wrote: > >> I don't

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Notice of Honour

2017-10-22 Thread Reuben Staley
Oh. Then it's PSS' responsibility now and not mine? -- Trigon On Oct 22, 2017 8:40 AM, "Alexis Hunt" wrote: That was only an intent; you haven't actually done it yet. On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 at 10:34 Reuben Staley wrote: > Are people still not getting

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Notice of Honour

2017-10-22 Thread Kerim Aydin
I should say I'm a bit nervous with someone who hasn't been an Officer before starting with rulekeepor. It's an unholy blend of a lot of work, in big bursts, with timeliness being a big issue, and it requires some pretty finicky understanding of the rules (e.g. it's the primary person

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Notice of Honour

2017-10-22 Thread Kerim Aydin
Yes, regardless of who deputizes in the short-term I think this one definitely deserves an election. On Sun, 22 Oct 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > I agree. I'm considering putting myself up for election on it as a result. > > On Sun, Oct 22, 2017, 15:20 Kerim Aydin,

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7923-7929

2017-10-22 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I believed it was a revision of the previously published document because the outcomes were not changed. On 10/22/2017 02:34 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > I spend a shiny to CFJ "In the below-quoted message, PSS resolved an > Agoran Decision". > > Arguments: See also CFJ 3576 about revisions of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Notice of Honour

2017-10-22 Thread Reuben Staley
I understand your concerns and even share some of them. That's why I'm only testing the waters a bit right now with the deputisation. If it turns out to be too much work and I don't want to handle it, than someone else should definitely take the job. That being said, I'm fairly certain that

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Notice of Honour

2017-10-22 Thread Josh T
You can do as you intended, making the "if it is still possible" clause in PSS' pledge false, thus alleviating eir duty to become Rulekeepor. Think of it as "if you don't do it, they will". 天火狐 On 22 October 2017 at 10:44, Reuben Staley wrote: > Oh. Then it's PSS'

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] CFJs 3577-3578 assigned to Aris

2017-10-22 Thread Alexis Hunt
Aris, I'll pay you back for a fix proposal if you find that oerjan is correct and if you can get it into this week's distribution. On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 at 19:58 Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Mon, 16 Oct 2017, Ørjan Johansen wrote: > > I make two CFJ, and request that they

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Notice of Honour

2017-10-22 Thread Reuben Staley
I don't think it's possible, as I have already deputized for rulekeepor. -- Trigon On Oct 22, 2017 5:42 AM, "Publius Scribonius Scholasticus" < p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote: I pledge to deputize for the rulekeepor on October 19, 2017, if it is still possible. On 10/22/2017 12:14

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Notice of Honour

2017-10-22 Thread Alexis Hunt
Huh? When? On Sun, Oct 22, 2017, 10:26 Reuben Staley, wrote: > I don't think it's possible, as I have already deputized for rulekeepor. > > -- > Trigon > > On Oct 22, 2017 5:42 AM, "Publius Scribonius Scholasticus" < > p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7923-7929

2017-10-22 Thread Alexis Hunt
Per rule 208, an invalid tally must invalidate the decision. On Sun, Oct 22, 2017, 15:17 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, < p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote: > I believed it was a revision of the previously published document > because the outcomes were not changed. > > > On 10/22/2017

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Notice of Honour

2017-10-22 Thread Alexis Hunt
That was only an intent; you haven't actually done it yet. On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 at 10:34 Reuben Staley wrote: > Are people still not getting my messages? It's in a thread with the title > "Deputising for the rulekeepor". > > -- > Trigon > > On Oct 22, 2017 8:31 AM,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Notice of Honour

2017-10-22 Thread Alexis Hunt
I agree. I'm considering putting myself up for election on it as a result. On Sun, Oct 22, 2017, 15:20 Kerim Aydin, wrote: > > > I should say I'm a bit nervous with someone who hasn't been an Officer > before starting with rulekeepor. It's an unholy blend of a lot of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Notice of Honour

2017-10-22 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Not you specifically, primarily Trigon, but really anyone who wanted it. On 10/22/2017 03:45 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > (was this meant to be just to me?) I'm not planning on doing anything > myself to start an election or anything... I mainly didn't want Trigon > to put work into it or think e

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Notice of Honour

2017-10-22 Thread Reuben Staley
(Oh gosh. What have I gotten myself into?) I don't understand the significance of your message. What should I wait to do? Do you mean I shouldn't work on the ruleset? On 10/22/2017 1:50 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: Not you specifically, primarily Trigon, but really anyone who

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7923-7929

2017-10-22 Thread ATMunn .
Hm, I'm not sure if the rules specifically say that the Assessor has to do that. If they did, I would CoE it, but they only say "its holder is responsible for collecting votes and keeping track of related properties." On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 8:35 AM, Madeline wrote: > You

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Notice of Honour

2017-10-22 Thread Kerim Aydin
You deputize by actually performing the action (e.g. actually publishing an up-to-date Ruleset that's overdue). Multiple people might announce their intent to do so ahead of time, but that doesn't make the office change (or reserve it for them). So you'd do it by saying "I deputize for the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7923-7929

2017-10-22 Thread Kerim Aydin
The problem is, by R208 it isn't actually a proposal resolution if it doesn't "provides a tally of the voters' valid ballots." Note that it's a bit weird - the tally of valid ballots isn't actually what self-ratifies - that's in R2034. So the tally is more platonic, if it was incorrect, the

Re: DIS: Re: CJF (Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7922-7929)

2017-10-22 Thread Alex Smith
On Sun, 2017-10-22 at 00:16 -0700, Aris Merchant wrote: > Again, voting for both this and contracts is a rather bad idea, > because they conflict. This removes regulations, which contracts > uses. The contracts proposal doesn't /need/ regulations for anything fundamental, though. It'd be easy

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ

2017-10-22 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sun, 22 Oct 2017, Telnaior wrote: > There's plenty of dissent, so may as well? > I spend an action point to initiate a Call For Judgement on the statement > "Telnaior attempted to publish a Notice of Honour that was invalid solely > because she had already posted a valid Notice of Honour

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Regkeepor] ACORN

2017-10-22 Thread Aris Merchant
It's a report of all regulations. Regulations are intended as a way to grant power under the rules to officers. They were enacted partly at the request of a few players, who wished to use them for game systems they were working on. Those systems didn't go anywhere, so right now regulations don't

DIS: Re: CJF (Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7922-7929)

2017-10-22 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 6:22 AM, ATMunn . wrote: > I'm just going to make sure my vote actually changes. > > If, despite the aforementioned October 19 post, my vote on proposals > 7922-7929 has not changed, I vote as follows: ... > 7925: FOR Again, voting for both this

Re: DIS: Re: CJF (Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7922-7929)

2017-10-22 Thread Aris Merchant
True, I suppose. I have a feeling "can by regulation" would probably allow regulations either by announcement or with notice, but that's not the end of the world. -Aris On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 12:22 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Sun, 2017-10-22 at 00:16 -0700, Aris

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Notice of Honour

2017-10-22 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Mine is sort of up to date. The Registrar's report should be there, but I need to find my SSH key password to push again. On 10/22/2017 12:10 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > The FLR hasn't had them in a long time: certainly not since I've been > a player. I think Gaelan took them out. > > JDGA: I'm

DIS: Re: BUS: Intent

2017-10-22 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I would be willing to do secretary. On 10/22/2017 12:46 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > I intend, in between 2 and 14 days, to deputize for the positions of > Referee and Surveyor, for the purposes of publishing the weekly > reports of each of those positions. > > I encourage someone with a stronger heart

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7923-7929

2017-10-22 Thread Madeline
You missed Contracts v8 in this list of passed proposals D: On 2017-10-22 23:31, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: I resolve the decision(s) to adopt proposal(s) 7923-7929 below. [This notice resolves the Agoran

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-22 Thread Aris Merchant
So make a length or substance requirement or something. Our current reportor is doing quite an excellent job. Also, offices aren't bad so long as they do _something_. This one tells people what's going on in an interesting way, and provides an archive for future generations of Agorans [1]. [1]

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-22 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > The regkeepor should be monthly not weekly - if you want a sinecure > it's that - a completely empty weekly report for the last two months. The Regkeepor has been diligently doing eir work unpaid, except for those

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-22 Thread VJ Rada
Superintendent still exists and Secretary does pending Contracts actually passing, of course. On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 10:34 AM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 at 19:32 Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> >> >> The regkeepor should be monthly not weekly

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-22 Thread VJ Rada
It is 4 and 14 days, isn't it? That still gives em 3 to 4 days, if I prepare a report immediately after I'm allowed, which I doubt. I don't deny o's good officerlyness, I have complimented em on it many times. Having said that, e is also the richest Agoran, a holder of 5 offices currently. It

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (no subject)

2017-10-22 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Then, we need to rename the Tax Rate. On 10/22/2017 07:43 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > Not apart from deregistration and administrative fees, neither of > which would normally be considered taxes. > > -Aris > > > > On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-22 Thread ATMunn .
oh. I wasn't sure whether or not "I ratify the below document, which is: {Just now, ATMunn won an election for ADoP. Just now, Alexis won an election for Prime Minister}." actually meant that I hold ADoP and Alexis holds PM. I guess I should have figured that out, however, since Alexis's vote

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7923-7929

2017-10-22 Thread Alexis Hunt
Will you be resolving 7922 soon? On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 at 08:31 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote: > I resolve the decision(s) to adopt proposal(s) 7923-7929 below. > > > > [This

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-22 Thread Josh T
At least let me do the things I want to do with the office that I've held off doing since I wanted to wait until Contracts was out. 天火狐 On 22 October 2017 at 17:55, VJ Rada wrote: > I _spend_ a shiny to _pend_ "Repeal the Reportor" > > On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 8:53 AM, Aris

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-22 Thread Aris Merchant
I concur. We finally have an active reportor, now is not the time to repeal the newspaper. -Aris On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: > Why though? Even if it isn't an entirely useful of the game, I still enjoy > reading the newspaper every week. > > On

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-22 Thread Kerim Aydin
The regkeepor should be monthly not weekly - if you want a sinecure it's that - a completely empty weekly report for the last two months. We just repealed organizations, right? So that's the Secretary gone. I thought for a while that the Herald and Tailor should be merged, but now with Karma

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-22 Thread VJ Rada
Yeah, lost and gone. I also just lost superintendent and PM rip. Bad two days. On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > E already did. You're the ADoP now! > > On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 at 19:57 ATMunn . wrote: >> >> That's true. I think I'd

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-22 Thread VJ Rada
Especially given that e is the Referee and the Secretary, which are VERY important to publish each week, given the 7-day statute of limitations and the Floating Value (and general effects of economic uncertainty). I feel little guilt, honestly, and now that we have excellent electoral systems I'm

DIS: Re: BUS: registration fix

2017-10-22 Thread Aris Merchant
Pardon me if I'm missing something, but this doesn't seem to be pended. -Aris On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > I submit the following Proposal, AI-3, "Registration fix finally": > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-22 Thread Alexis Hunt
I believe the report is overdue though, traditionally, we are lax on officers who take over midweek. Note that the new rules regarding your report mean you'll likely need to go through some mailing list history to pick up the date that elections ended for each office. On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 at

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Notice of Honour

2017-10-22 Thread Alexis Hunt
Depitizing for rulekeepor entails taking the office over (unless you resign after of course). I think we'd all appreciate the short term work but it's one of the hardest jobs to do on an ongoing basis. That said, was the last election ever resolved? I see VJ initiated it on September 14 but can't

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-22 Thread Reuben Staley
Why though? Even if it isn't an entirely useful of the game, I still enjoy reading the newspaper every week. On 10/22/2017 3:52 PM, VJ Rada wrote: I create and spend a shiny to spend the following Name: Repeal the Reportor AI: 1 Author: me Text: Repeal rule 2446 "The Agoran Newspaper" --

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3581 assigned to Alexis

2017-10-22 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sun, 22 Oct 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote: > Proposal: No List Prefixes (AI=1) > {{{ > The Distributor is hereby requested to disable the DIS, BUS, and OFF > prefixes automatically added to mail sent by the agoranomic.org mailing > lists. > }}} Subject lines wander a long way from their purpose

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-22 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sun, 22 Oct 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > > > The regkeepor should be monthly not weekly - if you want a sinecure > > it's that - a completely empty weekly report for the last two months. > > The Regkeepor

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-22 Thread VJ Rada
Did it? OK, fair enough. We should probably just repeal Agronomy? It's a really complicated modification of five things that creates so many empty reports that the reportor forgot to publish them until last week. And the person whose idea it was left immediately after coming up with it. On Mon,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-22 Thread Alexis Hunt
Contracts passed, and was enacted unless my CFJ turns out true (G., any likelihood of expediting that one and possibly linking it with my previous one about the Promotor's report?) On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 at 19:36 VJ Rada wrote: > Superintendent still exists and Secretary does

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-22 Thread ATMunn .
That's true. I think I'd agree on that, especially for you, since you'll soon lose ADoP. On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 7:54 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > It is 4 and 14 days, isn't it? That still gives em 3 to 4 days, if I > prepare a report immediately after I'm allowed, which I doubt. >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-22 Thread Alexis Hunt
E already did. You're the ADoP now! On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 at 19:57 ATMunn . wrote: > That's true. I think I'd agree on that, especially for you, since you'll > soon lose ADoP. > > On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 7:54 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > >> It is 4 and 14

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-22 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 23 Oct 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote: > I believe the report is overdue though, traditionally, we are lax on officers > who take over midweek. In an old system, we had a strong precedent or rule (can't remember) that you can't ding an officer for missing something in eir first objection

Re: DIS: seeking masters thesis [attn ais523]

2017-10-22 Thread Alex Smith
On Sun, 2017-10-22 at 18:26 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > ais523 (or someone else):  you are the only person to do a Masters > thesis - do you have a copy handy?  (I vaguely remember it might have > been part of a CFJ, but that might have been your dissertation). > > Alexis's recent thesis is right

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3581 assigned to Alexis

2017-10-22 Thread Alexis Hunt
TTttPF On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 at 19:23 Alexis Hunt wrote: > On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 at 20:11 Kerim Aydin wrote: > >> >> >> On Sat, 21 Oct 2017, Ørjan Johansen wrote: >> > In a below quoted message of 19 October, ATMunn succeeded in >> changing >> >

DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3581 assigned to Alexis

2017-10-22 Thread Alexis Hunt
On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 at 20:11 Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Sat, 21 Oct 2017, Ørjan Johansen wrote: > > In a below quoted message of 19 October, ATMunn succeeded in changing > > eir votes. > > This is CFJ 3581. I assign it to Alexis. > > > > Argument: The plain text

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-22 Thread VJ Rada
No I love the buying and selling of voting power idea there. If we maybe made it cheaper and easier to understand, and increased the number of Estates perhaps, it would maybe work. Problem, of course, is buy-in. On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-22 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 23 Oct 2017, VJ Rada wrote: > By the by, I forgot o. is also the agronomist. I intend to deputize > for the position to publish its weekly report. I have to say, o has been a conscientious and hard-working Officer that hasn't missed deadlines generally - it seems churlish to grab

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (no subject)

2017-10-22 Thread VJ Rada
>entity's shiny abalance. abalance should be balance? On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > Then, we need to rename the Tax Rate. > > > On 10/22/2017 07:43 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: >> Not apart from deregistration and

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-22 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I agree with this and have written o, asking em, if e needed interim help. On 10/22/2017 07:49 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Mon, 23 Oct 2017, VJ Rada wrote: >> By the by, I forgot o. is also the agronomist. I intend to deputize >> for the position to publish its weekly report. > I have to say,

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputisation] Short Logical Ruleset

2017-10-22 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sun, 22 Oct 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 5:57 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: > > I deputise for he Rulekeepor to publish the below SLR: > > > > THE SHORT LOGICAL RULESET > > CoE: There are brackets in R2520, in clear

DIS: Re: BUS: we never, ever do this

2017-10-22 Thread Alex Smith
On Sun, 2017-10-22 at 18:15 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I submit the following proposal, AI-3, "I've never seen this done": > > = > [I mean, *literally* never]. > > Amend Rule 1728 by deleting: >   The actor SHOULD publish a

DIS: Re: OFF: [Deputisation] Short Logical Ruleset

2017-10-22 Thread Alexis Hunt
On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 at 20:57 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote: > I deputise for he Rulekeepor to publish the below SLR: > > THE SHORT LOGICAL RULESET Errors I've found: The Floating Value rule is missing its ID number. The text of rule 2309 is wholly

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-22 Thread Alexis Hunt
On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 at 19:32 Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > The regkeepor should be monthly not weekly - if you want a sinecure > it's that - a completely empty weekly report for the last two months. > > We just repealed organizations, right? So that's the Secretary gone. >

DIS: Re: BUS: (no subject)

2017-10-22 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
We already have taxes. On 10/22/2017 07:39 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > I submit the following proposal, and pend it for 1 AP. > > -Aris > --- > Title: It's death _and_ taxes > Adoption index: 1.0 > Author: Aris > Co-author(s): > > > Lines beginning with hashmarks ("#") and comments in square

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (no subject)

2017-10-22 Thread Aris Merchant
Not apart from deregistration and administrative fees, neither of which would normally be considered taxes. -Aris On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > We already have taxes. > > > On 10/22/2017 07:39 PM, Aris Merchant

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-22 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sun, 22 Oct 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > Contracts passed, and was enacted unless my CFJ turns out true (G., any > likelihood > of expediting that one and possibly linking it with my previous one about the > Promotor's report?) Might not be today, but should get it out by tomorrow. But I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-22 Thread ATMunn .
Also, "create and spend a shiny to pend the following" implies that you're creating a shiny, and then spending it, which is IMPOSSIBLE. On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 5:53 PM, Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think you mean pend, not spend. > > -Aris > > On Sun, Oct 22,

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7923-7929

2017-10-22 Thread VJ Rada
Hey fun fact: there's still a use of Organisations in the rule post-this. The reason being, my "Estate Auction Fix" is listed after "Contracts" and amends the rule "Estate Auctions" to mention Orgs. On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 11:31 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus

DIS: Re: BUS: [Promotor] Pool Cleanup

2017-10-22 Thread VJ Rada
I create the following and pend it with AP. Title: I Demand Faster Auctions AI:2 Co-author: o. Text: In rule 2491, replace "At the start of each month" with "At the start of each week" On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Aris Merchant wrote: > As Promotor, I

DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Resolving Elections: Correctly this time!

2017-10-22 Thread VJ Rada
To answer your question, Alexis, here is the Rulekeepor resolution. On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 5:45 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > I resolve the agoran decisions for the determination of the registrar, > superintendent, surveyor, arbitor, rulekeepor, referee, promotor and > tailor. The

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Resolving Elections: Correctly this time!

2017-10-22 Thread Alexis Hunt
Thanks. On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 at 17:35 VJ Rada wrote: > To answer your question, Alexis, here is the Rulekeepor resolution. > > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 5:45 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > > I resolve the agoran decisions for the determination of the registrar, > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-22 Thread Reuben Staley
Agronomy in Agora can still go a long way, and I don't think it should be repealed. At most, it needs to be reworked. The sentiment among Agorans is that we need a more player-centric economy, so that shinies can trade hands between players rather than between Agora and a player. On

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-22 Thread Kerim Aydin
Fair enough on that last point - I shouldn't talk I grabbed Herald from PSS last month for the same reasons (i.e. I needed the cash). On Mon, 23 Oct 2017, VJ Rada wrote: > It is 4 and 14 days, isn't it? That still gives em 3 to 4 days, if I > prepare a report immediately after I'm allowed,

DIS: seeking masters thesis [attn ais523]

2017-10-22 Thread Kerim Aydin
ais523 (or someone else): you are the only person to do a Masters thesis - do you have a copy handy? (I vaguely remember it might have been part of a CFJ, but that might have been your dissertation). Alexis's recent thesis is right on B.N. level IMO, but e's already got that, I'm trying to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputisation] Short Logical Ruleset

2017-10-22 Thread Alexis Hunt
That text was removed by Aris's proposal in any case. On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 at 21:22 Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Sun, 22 Oct 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 5:57 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > > wrote: > >

Re: DIS: Unofficial SLR

2017-10-22 Thread VJ Rada
well if you want to do the FLR you can still deputise for rulekeepor and yoink it from PSS... On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 2:36 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: > As PSS has beaten me to the publishing of an SLR by deputisation, this > doesn't really count, but I tried to fix some of