Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Talismans Auction Patch

2020-06-26 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/25/20 11:39 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > For simplicity, would it be possible for the Registrar to adopt > regulations defering to the Treasuror's regulations? I think so. I don't see any reason a Regulation couldn't simply say "Auctions are run as

Re: DIS: [proto] Regulatory Instruments draft

2020-06-26 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/25/20 6:40 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > Title: Regulatory Instruments v2 > Author: Jason > Coauthors: Aris > Adoption index: 3.0 Reading this it seems mechanically sound. However I kind of agree with G. Were there any specific deficits with the current regulation system

Re: DIS: Re: [Indictment] Re: BUS: [Proposal] Black ribbon patch

2020-06-26 Thread omd via agora-discussion
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 2:32 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > Can someone point me to the CFJ that says "authorized to" conditions are > triggered by a CAN, but not a SHALL? (specifically that look at the term > "authorize", I'm just curious how much that highly-used but undefined in

Re: DIS: Re: [Indictment] Re: BUS: actually fuck it

2020-06-26 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/27/20 12:14 AM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 9:13 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> On 6/27/20 12:11 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >>> Regardless of the interpretation of this clause, "pending" a

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Contract charities

2020-06-26 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/26/20 7:45 PM, James Cook via agora-business wrote: >> oh, duh. everyone's been going back and forth so much with ideas and >> drafts I wasn't thinking of ownership at all. go for it! > I submit a proposal as follows. (But I do not pend it just yet.) > > Title: Contract charities >

Re: DIS: Re: [Indictment] Re: BUS: actually fuck it

2020-06-26 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 9:13 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/27/20 12:11 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > > Regardless of the interpretation of this clause, "pending" a proposal is > > flipping its switch. You can't flip a switch to the

Re: DIS: Re: [Indictment] Re: BUS: actually fuck it

2020-06-26 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/27/20 12:11 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > Regardless of the interpretation of this clause, "pending" a proposal is > flipping its switch. You can't flip a switch to the same value it > already has, per R2162. Right, I'm not arguing that the flipping of the switch failed. I'm

Re: DIS: Re: [Indictment] Re: BUS: actually fuck it

2020-06-26 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/26/20 7:50 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/26/20 8:38 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business > wrote: >> Here is the list of proposals that I believe were pended in this way — >> some may be missing, and I considered the possibility that the finger >>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3851 judged TRUE

2020-06-26 Thread omd via agora-discussion
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 6:12 PM James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > I've thought it would be interesting to play a Nomic that starts with > just one simple rule with text like "This is a Nomic; figure the rest > out.". Or just on rules written down explicitly. Back in 2008, there was a

Re: DIS: Apathy warning

2020-06-26 Thread omd via agora-discussion
On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 5:52 AM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > Explanation for those curious: > > The attachment was the EICAR antivirus test file, which everything is > supposed to treat as malware, but is really just a 68-byte text file. > Gmail wouldn't even send it from my own

Re: DIS: Re: Pledge re BUS: Statement from the Opposition

2020-06-26 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/26/20 10:52 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/26/20 11:42 PM, Ed Strange via agora-business wrote: >> I pledge to abandin any attrmpt to do this scam if you give ME a win via >> free tournament > > Interesting idea, but I think we'll have to wait to find out how the CFJ > is

DIS: Re: Pledge re BUS: Statement from the Opposition

2020-06-26 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/26/20 11:42 PM, Ed Strange via agora-business wrote: > I pledge to abandin any attrmpt to do this scam if you give ME a win via > free tournament Interesting idea, but I think we'll have to wait to find out how the CFJ is judged. Also, nch might be able to force you into doing it by

DIS: Re: [Indictment] Re: BUS: actually fuck it

2020-06-26 Thread omd via agora-discussion
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 5:39 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business wrote: > Here is the list of proposals that I believe were pended in this way — I think my proposal "Reset deadlines when resetting the economy" was also pended.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3851 judged TRUE

2020-06-26 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/26/20 9:18 PM, Jason Cobb wrote: > > I may have forgotten this case existed. > > Rule 2221 reads, in its entirety: > >> Rule 2221/7 (Power=3) >> Cleanliness >> >> Any player CAN clean a rule without objection by specifying one or >> more corrections to spelling, grammar,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3851 judged TRUE

2020-06-26 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/26/2020 6:14 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > On 6/26/20 9:11 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: >> On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 at 16:08, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion >> wrote: >>> On 6/26/2020 8:49 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: On 6/19/20 8:26 PM, Kerim

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3851 judged TRUE

2020-06-26 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/26/20 12:04 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/26/2020 8:49 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: >> On 6/19/20 8:26 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote: >>> The below CFJ is 3851. I assign it to Publius Scribonius Scholasticus. >>> >>> status:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3851 judged TRUE

2020-06-26 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/26/20 9:11 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 at 16:08, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion > wrote: >> On 6/26/2020 8:49 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: >>> On 6/19/20 8:26 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote: The below CFJ is 3851. I assign

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3851 judged TRUE

2020-06-26 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 6:12 PM James Cook via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 at 16:08, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion > wrote: > > On 6/26/2020 8:49 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > > > On 6/19/20 8:26 PM, Kerim Aydin via

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3851 judged TRUE

2020-06-26 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 at 16:08, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/26/2020 8:49 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > > On 6/19/20 8:26 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote: > >> The below CFJ is 3851. I assign it to Publius Scribonius Scholasticus. > >> > >> status:

DIS: Re: BUS: [Dragon] Rejoining

2020-06-26 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 21:35, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > I don't think I ever consented to the latest amendment, so I believe I > am no longer a party. I become a party to the Dragon Corporation. > > -Aris Oops, welcome back! Sorry, probably should have bumped that thread first.

Re: DIS: Re: [Indictment] Re: BUS: actually fuck it

2020-06-26 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/26/20 8:50 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/26/20 8:38 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business > wrote: >> Here is the list of proposals that I believe were pended in this way — >> some may be missing, and I considered the possibility that the finger >>

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Contract charities

2020-06-26 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/26/20 8:45 PM, James Cook via agora-business wrote: > This SHOULD only be done if the > contract's provisions ensure that its funds will be used solely > for the betterment of Agora. I think we should change this to: This SHOULD only be done if the contract's

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Statement from the Opposition

2020-06-26 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 19:39, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 12:36 PM nch via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > On 6/25/20 2:35 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 12:16 PM nch via agora-discussion

Re: DIS: Re: [Indictment] Re: BUS: actually fuck it

2020-06-26 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/26/20 8:50 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/26/20 8:38 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business > wrote: >> Here is the list of proposals that I believe were pended in this way — >> some may be missing, and I considered the possibility that the finger >>

DIS: Re: [Indictment] Re: BUS: actually fuck it

2020-06-26 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/26/20 8:38 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business wrote: > Here is the list of proposals that I believe were pended in this way — > some may be missing, and I considered the possibility that the finger > pointing was insufficiently precise, but given that I can recommend >

DIS: Re: [Indictment] Re: BUS: [Proposal] Black ribbon patch

2020-06-26 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/26/2020 8:59 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business wrote: > > G., you will need to initiate the decisions, but you can't yet, so hold > on until the Fixes pass. > Can someone point me to the CFJ that says "authorized to" conditions are triggered by a CAN, but not a SHALL?

Re: DIS: Re: [Indictment] Re: BUS: [Proposal] Black ribbon patch

2020-06-26 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/26/20 12:37 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/26/20 11:10 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: >> I plead guilty, but I really do think that 4 blots is too high a penalty >> for what I did. I wrote a patch for a bug that was possibly exploitable >> in the future, but I certified

DIS: Re: [Indictment] Re: BUS: [Proposal] Black ribbon patch

2020-06-26 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/26/2020 8:59 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > G., you will need to initiate the decisions, but you can't yet, so hold > on until the Fixes pass. > Yah knowing this was coming up is one reason I grabbed the green ribbon when I did :)

DIS: Re: [Indictment] Re: BUS: [Proposal] Black ribbon patch

2020-06-26 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/26/20 11:10 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > I plead guilty, but I really do think that 4 blots is too high a penalty > for what I did. I wrote a patch for a bug that was possibly exploitable > in the future, but I certified it under what I think was a plausible > reading of the

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3851 judged TRUE

2020-06-26 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/26/2020 8:49 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > On 6/19/20 8:26 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote: >> The below CFJ is 3851. I assign it to Publius Scribonius Scholasticus. >> >> status: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/#3851 >> >>

Re: DIS: [proto] Regulatory Instruments draft

2020-06-26 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/26/20 11:34 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/25/2020 4:54 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 6/25/20 7:48 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: >>> On 6/25/2020 4:40 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: Auction regulations are regulations

Re: DIS: [proto] Regulatory Instruments draft

2020-06-26 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/25/2020 4:54 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/25/20 7:48 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 6/25/2020 4:40 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: >>> Auction regulations are regulations defined by this rule, all of which >>> comprise a single body of law,