DIS: Re: BUS: Oh gosh I think that the storm of mail we just had is my fault

Oh dear no, the ability to bid all sorts of non-integers is in the zombie auction rule too, that was mine. In this respect yours actually faced the problem by attempting to ban impossible bids. (Not that taking a break is a bad thing at all and I hope you return, but despite the contradictions

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Oh gosh I think that the storm of mail we just had is my fault

One can play a nomic by doing nothing but voting. On Thu, 8 Feb 2018 at 21:46, ATMunn wrote: > Thanks. I was considering deregistering anyways, and this just pushed it > over the edge. I just felt that I hadn't really cared much for or been > involved much in Agora

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Oh gosh I think that the storm of mail we just had is my fault

Thanks. I was considering deregistering anyways, and this just pushed it over the edge. I just felt that I hadn't really cared much for or been involved much in Agora recently, and so there wasn't much of a point to staying registered to me. I haven't submitted a proposal in ages, and I don't

DIS: Proto: Zombie Auction Reform Act

Title: Zombie Auction Reform Act Adoption index: 2.0 Author: Aris Co-author(s): Comments in square brackets ("[]") have no effect on the behavior of this proposal. They are not part of any rules created or amended herein, and may be considered for all game purposes to have been removed before

DIS: Re: BUS: Oh gosh I think that the storm of mail we just had is my fault

It's okay, this happens to everyone at some point. Also, it's really nice to see Agora active again, even if the reason is a bug. You've been a great player, and I hope you reregister soon. -Aris On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 6:28 PM, ATMunn wrote: > I deregister. > > (I, at

DIS: Re: BUS: Oh gosh I think that the storm of mail we just had is my fault

On 2018-02-09 13:28, ATMunn wrote: I deregister. (I, at least in part, wrote all the auction rules that are causing all this confusion...) A storm of mail isn't a bad thing!

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Re: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Zombie auctions for Quazie, 天火狐, and nichdel

But aleph-zero is it's 'hood name, yo. (Also, it's technically correct. I can't pull a book right now but I guess Wikipedia should do: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleph_number) On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 3:23 AM, ATMunn wrote: > it's aleph-null not aleph-zero > > > On

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Re: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Zombie auctions for Quazie, 天火狐, and nichdel

It can be aleph-naught, aleph-zero, or aleph-null, see [1]. I always use aleph-null personally, as I think most people (in the United States?) do today and agree that other versions sound a bit weird, but that doesn't make them incorrect. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleph_number -Aris On

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Zombie auctions for Quazie, 天火狐, and nichdel

it's aleph-null not aleph-zero On 2/8/2018 4:25 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote: Might as well: I bid an amount equal to the cardinality of the set of all Natural numbers (aleph-zero), on each auction On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 10:07 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote: What does “winning” mean,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Re: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Zombie auctions for Quazie, 天火狐, and nichdel

This made me laugh out loud. > On Feb 8, 2018, at 4:46 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > >> On Thu, 2018-02-08 at 16:34 -0800, Gaelan Steele wrote: >> Still leaves my bid of i. I’m kind of curious about the ruling about >> that, but I’m happy to (attempt to) retract one or both

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Re: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Zombie auctions for Quazie, 天火狐, and nichdel

On Fri, 9 Feb 2018, Cuddle Beam wrote: > Not to bring them up again but I think it would be easier if G. themselves > just admit that their own card was ineffective to clear it out, so no need > for back and forth. I would be dishonest if I said that I knew it was ineffective. There are

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Re: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Zombie auctions for Quazie, 天火狐, and nichdel

Since this requires collective Agoran Consent to prosecute the Red Card and I've said I'm staying out of that, I'm keeping out of any further actions on this. I won't contest anyone else's finger pointed in my direction. On Fri, 9 Feb 2018, Cuddle Beam wrote: > I'll retract my bids if G. cards

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Re: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Zombie auctions for Quazie, 天火狐, and nichdel

Not to bring them up again but I think it would be easier if G. themselves just admit that their own card was ineffective to clear it out, so no need for back and forth. On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 1:42 AM, Madeline wrote: > Isn't the implication there that you should appeal it if

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Re: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Zombie auctions for Quazie, 天火狐, and nichdel

On Thu, 2018-02-08 at 16:34 -0800, Gaelan Steele wrote: > Still leaves my bid of i. I’m kind of curious about the ruling about > that, but I’m happy to (attempt to) retract one or both of my bids if > that’s what everyone would prefer. I'd strongly suspect that we don't treat imaginary bids as

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Re: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Zombie auctions for Quazie, 天火狐, and nichdel

Isn't the implication there that you should appeal it if you're not happy with it? On 2018-02-09 11:38, Cuddle Beam wrote: I'll retract my bids if G. cards themselves for pulling this: Trivial auction breaking spoils everyone's fun. Really. And "I might as well" directly break a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Re: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Zombie auctions for Quazie, 天火狐, and nichdel

You could look at comparing the real component only (which would give it a size of 0), or perhaps taking the modulus (which would give it a size of 1). I'd suggest withdrawing it lest you meet the same fate as Cuddlebeam, though. On 2018-02-09 11:34, Gaelan Steele wrote: Still leaves my bid

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Re: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Zombie auctions for Quazie, 天火狐, and nichdel

I'll retract my bids if G. cards themselves for pulling this: > Trivial auction breaking spoils everyone's fun. Really. And "I might > as well" directly break a rule is a terrible attitude to bring to the > game, and doesn't Treat Agora Right. This deserves a strong penalty. > You

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Re: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Zombie auctions for Quazie, 天火狐, and nichdel

Still leaves my bid of i. I’m kind of curious about the ruling about that, but I’m happy to (attempt to) retract one or both of my bids if that’s what everyone would prefer. Gaelan > On Feb 8, 2018, at 4:20 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 9 Feb 2018,

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Re: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Zombie auctions for Quazie, 天火狐, and nichdel

On Fri, 9 Feb 2018, Madeline wrote: > So what's the status on the remaining two auctions now? > I was hoping to make a serious bid on them. :( Here's how fun's not *entirely* broken: You can still place lower bids. And CuddleBeam *might* be able to retract eir bid (I think e can, because that

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Re: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Zombie auctions for Quazie, 天火狐, and nichdel

So what's the status on the remaining two auctions now? I was hoping to make a serious bid on them. :( On 2018-02-09 11:04, Cuddle Beam wrote: Using the guise of "breaking fun" to test something? Well, alright. I appreciate the lack of book-throwing. On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 12:42 AM, Kerim

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Re: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Zombie auctions for Quazie, 天火狐, and nichdel

Using the guise of "breaking fun" to test something? Well, alright. I appreciate the lack of book-throwing. On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 12:42 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > You were testing, I was testing... Citing the rule specifically such that > a ruling on whether it was

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Re: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Zombie auctions for Quazie, 天火狐, and nichdel

Oh sorry, meant to mention... Not supporting any book-throwing efforts here atm. On Thu, 8 Feb 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: > You were testing, I was testing... Citing the rule specifically such that > a ruling on whether it was appropriate would be specific to cause, and > choosing a card to make

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Re: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Zombie auctions for Quazie, 天火狐, and nichdel

You were testing, I was testing... Citing the rule specifically such that a ruling on whether it was appropriate would be specific to cause, and choosing a card to make it worth contesting. The Zombie Auction version doesn't make it possible to withdraw bids, so I don't know if that would

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Re: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Zombie auctions for Quazie, 天火狐, and nichdel

I find that I broke R2550 a bit weird, because I was relying on your very on argument of " You could bid anything and say "hey, a rule change might make it possible, you never know." If you want to Card me for "breaking fun", sure, but then state it as such and not R2550. Because hey, a rule

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Re: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Zombie auctions for Quazie, 天火狐, and nichdel

On Thu, 8 Feb 2018, Josh T wrote: > I flip my Master switch to myself. Sorry folks, been busy but not quite > enough to be undead just yet. > > 天火狐 R1885, which has the highest power in this stuff, is clear that this terminates the auction immediately with "no winner" - I'm assuming that's the

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Zombie auctions for Quazie, 天火狐, and nichdel

He sent it to a-d so I think it might be just a joke lol On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 9:14 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Thu, 8 Feb 2018, Gaelan Steele wrote: > > I bid π shinies on each auction. > > > > Gaelan > > If this is auction is governed by R2550, then this likely

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Zombie auctions for Quazie, 天火狐, and nichdel

On Thu, 8 Feb 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: >A person SHALL NOT bid on an Auction if it would be impossible for >em to pay that amount at the conclusion of the Auction. Actually, this auction clause is problematic for *any* auction, as it requires knowing what-will-be-possible in

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Zombie auctions for Quazie, 天火狐, and nichdel

On Thu, 8 Feb 2018, Gaelan Steele wrote: > I bid π shinies on each auction. > > Gaelan If this is auction is governed by R2550, then this likely break a SHALL NOT: A person SHALL NOT bid on an Auction if it would be impossible for em to pay that amount at the conclusion of the

Re: DIS: Automation status update

Super nice, I look forwards to more progress! Thank you! On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 8:45 AM, Edward Murphy wrote: > I've set up a PostgreSQL database with relevant gamestate (as of some > time last Monday) and event log going back to 1/1/2018, and >

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Zombie auctions for Quazie, 天火狐, and nichdel

Just notifying beforehand that I'm up for sharing a zombie with someone, if bids somehow end up getting too huge to win. On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 8:37 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > I bid π shinies on each auction. > > Gaelan > > > On Feb 8, 2018, at 11:13 AM, ATMunn

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Zombie auctions for Quazie, 天火狐, and nichdel

I bid π shinies on each auction. Gaelan > On Feb 8, 2018, at 11:13 AM, ATMunn wrote: > > I bid 2 shinies on each auction. > >> On 2/8/2018 2:02 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >>> On Thu, 8 Feb 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: >>> Zombie Auctions[1] >>> I put the Zombie Quazie up for