Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Feb 25 Land Auction and an Announcement.

2018-03-01 Thread Cuddle Beam
we lose nothing by bidding just in case though (except probably dignity lol) On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 2:51 AM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: > On Wed, 28 Feb 2018, Reuben Staley wrote: > > Aren't the auctions broken though since Agora has to be the auctioneer? I >> remember someone

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald][Scroll of Agora]

2018-03-01 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Thu, 1 Mar 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: Someone last year (I forget who, sorry!) made a lovely post about how the fundamental product of Agora is its History, reflected primarily in its Herald's report. So yes I would very much object. Patent Titles are (most times) permanent and should

DIS: Re: BUS: Deregistration

2018-03-01 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Wed, 28 Feb 2018, Alexis Hunt wrote: I've just been hospitalized for an unknown amount of time; I will not be about to play in that time. Apologies. I deregister. Best wishes for a speedy recovery. Ørjan.

Re: DIS: Fwd: About that secret project...

2018-03-01 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Wed, 28 Feb 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: Ok folks, what's a set of religious terms for Blots, punishment, temples, and penance that won't be too culturally loaded for anyone? Keeping to the Agoran theme, something ancient Greece and pleasing the gods? Or something else (a little leery after

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Feb 25 Land Auction and an Announcement.

2018-03-01 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Wed, 28 Feb 2018, Reuben Staley wrote: Aren't the auctions broken though since Agora has to be the auctioneer? I remember someone saying that I am unable to transfer Agora's things, so I'm not sure investing in land is a good idea right now. I said something like that. By rule 2549, the

Re: DIS: Grey Land and the Fountain

2018-03-01 Thread Aris Merchant
I'd go with solution 2, but modified. What if we made it so that each facility could fit into (0 or more) "categories", and defined Production and Processing as categories. That way, we could extend it later without dealing with an exponential increase in the number of types. It also leave

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald][Scroll of Agora]

2018-03-01 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 1 Mar 2018, Alex Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2018-03-01 at 15:19 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > (Champion needing consent is a bug btw. Should be by announcement I > > think). > > I guess it's a simple way to handle disputed wins. I thought about that, but it seems a little churlish to make

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald][Scroll of Agora]

2018-03-01 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2018-03-01 at 15:19 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: > (Champion needing consent is a bug btw. Should be by announcement I > think). I guess it's a simple way to handle disputed wins. -- ais523

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald][Scroll of Agora]

2018-03-01 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 1 Mar 2018, Corona wrote: > I intend to award the title of Champion by Politics to Aris with 2 Support. > I intend to award the (new) title of Reformist Bug to Trigon with 2 Support. 2 Consent, not 2 Support I'm afraid. Need to re-announce intent with the correction (R1728).

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald][Scroll of Agora]

2018-03-01 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 1 Mar 2018, Corona wrote: > When I meant "do away", I meant by getting a report without them > self-ratified, but it seems like at least you'd object, so nevermind. Someone last year (I forget who, sorry!) made a lovely post about how the fundamental product of Agora is its History,

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald][Scroll of Agora]

2018-03-01 Thread Madeline
Yeah, trying to ratify out formerly awarded titles would be... not even remotely cool. Agora takes pride in its history. On 2018-03-02 08:36, Corona wrote: Right, I forgot. I intend to award the title of Champion by Politics to Aris with 2 Support. I intend to award the (new) title of

Re: DIS: Grey Land and the Fountain

2018-03-01 Thread Kenyon Prater
I ran into a problem that I figured I'd share and ask for input. "Asset Generation with Facilities" specifies that "Each facility is either a production facility or processing facility". The draft up there specifies that a fountain is a facility, but that it neither produces nor processes

Re: DIS: proto: patent award codification

2018-03-01 Thread Gaelan Steele
Your phrasing sounds like an obligation to give the title to all deserving players. Maybe something like this? The following titles CAN be awarded to any player by the holders of the listed offices with 2 Support. They SHOULD only be given to players that meet the qualifications listed. -

Re: DIS: proto: patent award codification

2018-03-01 Thread Kerim Aydin
Good thinking. Definitely will add SHOULDS to the standards for each, but probably good to say additionally in the rule that whether a player meets those standards is a political question not a judicial one (i.e. if it gets the right support/consent, it qualifies). Here's the old standard for

Re: DIS: Grey Land and the Fountain

2018-03-01 Thread Reuben Staley
Comments inline. On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 5:22 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > I like this. I'll have more detailed comments when it's typed up in a > proposal, but I think that this fits with the spirit of what we're going > for. Certainly it is a good idea to have

Re: DIS: proto: patent award codification

2018-03-01 Thread Gaelan Steele
Probably want the criteria for each to be SHOULDs so that we don't have CFJs about just how brilliant a judgement was. I like the idea. Gaelan > On Mar 1, 2018, at 10:01 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > > We used to have more Patent Titles named in the rules, and

Re: DIS: Proto: PAoaM Patch

2018-03-01 Thread Reuben Staley
Other things we need to do: Make Agora the auctioneer for Land Auctions. Remove the last paragraph of the Facilities rule and replace it with "Facilities always have the same owner as their parent land unit" or smth. Add a destruction clause to the Facilities rule. Also maybe a rank-down the

DIS: proto: patent award codification

2018-03-01 Thread Kerim Aydin
We used to have more Patent Titles named in the rules, and different officers were allowed to award them under certain conditions. We dropped that on the grounds that the Herald could generically award any of them when it seemed appropriate, but it meant the reasons for some of the awards

DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald][Scroll of Agora]

2018-03-01 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 1 Mar 2018, Corona wrote: > Should I award the Long Service Awards or do away with that section? They > seem to have fallen into disuse. You can't "do away" with them in the sense that they're awarded Patent Titles and therefore tracked. You could re-categorize them I suppose. But

DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald][Scroll of Agora]

2018-03-01 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 1 Mar 2018, Corona wrote: > I award the (new) title of Reformist Bug to Trigon. Was this voted on or part of a proposal? Otherwise need 2 Agoran Consent (I'd support).

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy-Referee] Weekly Report

2018-03-01 Thread Cuddle Beam
Just checked it and yes, you're right. By a few hours, it was in the 28th. On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 5:28 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > Genuine correction: By UTC, I think my Pink Slip hit on Feb 28 not > March 1? Matters for payday. > > On Thu, 1 Mar 2018, Kerim Aydin

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy-Referee] Weekly Report

2018-03-01 Thread Cuddle Beam
Ah OK On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 5:27 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > Sorry, I was just catching the lack of that stuff in the top line > ("recent events") which doesn't ratify. Was puzzled by the line > between "previous report" and "last report" not sure the difference >

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy-Referee] Weekly Report

2018-03-01 Thread Kerim Aydin
Genuine correction: By UTC, I think my Pink Slip hit on Feb 28 not March 1? Matters for payday. On Thu, 1 Mar 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Sorry, I was just catching the lack of that stuff in the top line > ("recent events") which doesn't ratify. Was puzzled by the line > between "previous

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy-Referee] Weekly Report

2018-03-01 Thread Cuddle Beam
I don't get that first part. The "spoiling fun" cards are there, the red one I got and then the counter card you got (gmail screwed with the formatting somehow, first time I do this... But aside from awkward spacing, its there:): > 8 Feb 2017 Cuddlebeam is issued a Red Card by Summary Judgement

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy-Referee] Weekly Report

2018-03-01 Thread Kerim Aydin
Sorry, I was just catching the lack of that stuff in the top line ("recent events") which doesn't ratify. Was puzzled by the line between "previous report" and "last report" not sure the difference there? No biggie just the format fooled me. On Thu, 1 Mar 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Coe:

DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] Reassignments

2018-03-01 Thread Corona
Sorry about that. ~Corona ​ On 06:55, Mar 1, 2018, at 06:55, Edward Murphy wrote: >I recuse Corona from CFJ 3624 and assign it to Publius. Again, >here's the message that initiated it:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Deregistration

2018-03-01 Thread Corona
I wish you a quick recovery. ~Corona​ On 04:22, Mar 1, 2018, at 04:22, Cuddle Beam wrote: >I hope you get better soon > >On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 2:32 AM, Ned Strange >wrote: > >> Hope you're alright, Alexis :(. >> >> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:08