Re: DIS: Draft: Spending Fix

On Sat, 14 Oct 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: So overall, I'm a bit concerned with the separate uses of "pay" and "spend" given that they now function differently and spend includes destruction. For example, if someone says "I pay 1 AP to " then it would technically fail, because "pay" is defined

DIS: Re: BUS: can we can't we can we can't we

On Sat, 14 Oct 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: If the majority of valid ballots (valid at the end of the voting period) cast in the decision to adopt this proposal specify "OPTION A" along with their vote, then amend Rule 2152 (Mother, May I?) by appending the following paragraph: If a Rule state

DIS: Re: BUS: A few cleanups

On Sat, 14 Oct 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote: Amend Rule 105, bullet 2 to read "When a rule is repealed, it ceases to be a I'm not sure the HLR is good for pasting directly into email. Greetings, Ørjan.

Re: DIS: Semi-final draft: Contracts v3

On Sun, 15 Oct 2017, Gaelan Steele wrote: [don’t know if anybody else shares this sentiment] Please use mail-archive instead of the built-in mailman archive. I have to dig up my mailman password every time, and it’s a pain. I do. Greetings, Ørjan.

Re: DIS: Semi-final draft: Contracts v3

On Sun, 15 Oct 2017, Alex Smith wrote: {{{ A rule change is any effect that falls into the above classes. It is not possible to for multiple rule changes to occur simultaneously; any attempt to cause multiple rule changes without a statement of the order in which those change

DIS: CFJ on another Campaigning mess (Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7908-7921)

I make two CFJ, and request that they be linked: There exists a Rule entitled "Campaign Proposals, with power 3", with power 1. and The ADOP SHALL NOT distribute Campaign Proposals for ongoing elections. My argument for the first one is that proposal 7912 contains an ob

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Re: E•MO•TION

On Sun, 15 Oct 2017, Gaelan Steele wrote: Ah, forgot that cleanup time could do that. I intend without objection to cause Cleanup Time to amend the ruleset by replacing “registrar” in any places it appears with “Registrar”. Does this require specifying an order? There might be just one such R

Re: DIS: Silly Proposal Query

On Mon, 16 Oct 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017, Josh T wrote: About Silly proposals I am vexed:Of the rule's intention I am perplexed; Ought the proposal's mood be most merry, Or it's meaning and tone be contrary? The Rule's a blank slate With no preconceived notions Whatever you

Re: DIS: What's the deal with the ADoP election?

On Thu, 19 Oct 2017, VJ Rada wrote: In about a day I can ratify my document making you the ADoP. I don't remember if you made a new intent after the one where you forgot to say it was a lie. Note that Rule 2202 (last published Ruleset, which is getting pretty out of date *grumble*) says:

DIS: Re: BUS: I revoke my agency ORP

On Thu, 19 Oct 2017, VJ Rada wrote: I gave notice a while ago. I revoke the agency ORP. How long ago? Remember there's a 14 day limit. Greetings, Ørjan.

Re: DIS: Idea: Taxes

On Sat, 21 Oct 2017, VJ Rada wrote: Bread -Bread is a transferable, destructible asset. -You have to destroy (syn. eat) 4 bread a month otherwise you become "starving" and cannot take any game actions for the next month unless someone transfers you 5 bread (or some amount of bread, I'm not a wiz

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Weekly Report

On Fri, 20 Oct 2017, Alex Smith wrote: I should have CoE'd the first report with the mistake, just before the week was up, in order to neatly create a time paradox. (That said, COEs don't have to be by Players, so I'm not sure how you get a paradox. Greetings, Ørjan.

DIS: Re: CJF (Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7922-7929)

On Sat, 21 Oct 2017, ATMunn . wrote: I'm just going to make sure my vote actually changes. If, despite the aforementioned October 19 post, my vote on proposals 7922-7929 has not changed, I vote as follows: Fortunately for you the judgement was that the previous one worked, because I don't th

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3581 assigned to Alexis

On Sun, 22 Oct 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote: Proposal: HTML Scrubbing (AI=1) {{{ The Distributor is hereby requested to enable the Mailman feature(s) to strip non-plain-text parts of emails sent by the agoranomic.org mailing lists. }}} Would this disallow _all_ non-text attachments, even those atta

DIS: Re: BUS: (no subject)

On Sun, 22 Oct 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: I submit the following proposal, and pend it for 1 AP. An entity's tax amount is, at any given time, (max(ceil(T% of (S - 10)), 0)), where max is the maximum of its inputs, ceil is the operation of rounding up to the nearest integer, T is the tax r

Re: DIS: more questions

On Mon, 23 Oct 2017, ATMunn wrote: Okay, I finally figured it out and it should look right now. I honestly don't know why I didn't figure it out sooner. Congratulations! On 10/23/2017 9:31 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: I am really enjoying reading this conversation using Pine. I've been pushin

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

On Tue, 24 Oct 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: I straight-up resign. If it is possible for me to do so, I initiate an election for the office of Agronomist. I submit the following as a campaign proposal: I think the first action made the second impossible. Greetings, Ørjan.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3585 assigned to V.J. Rada

e below CFJ, I do as indicated below: -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 13:58:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Kerim Aydin To: Agora Official Subject: [Arbitor] CFJ 3585 assigned to V.J. Rada On Tue, 24 Oct 2017, Ørjan Johansen wrote: On Mon, 23 Oct 2017, Publius Scribonius

Re: DIS: Proto-proto proposal

On Fri, 3 Nov 2017, VJ Rada wrote: I think the last time this was asked about, G. said they started being used somewhere between 1993/4. So they have a long pedigree haha :). Well the last time I recall, I pointed out that Spivak pronouns were used in Agora's original ruleset, and Originator

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Initiating Decisions Correctly

On Mon, 6 Nov 2017, Josh T wrote: Apparently, I just need to cast a vote to avoid being given a humiliating reminder, so for all pending proposals whose valid options include FOR and AGAINST, I vote PURPLE. I understand this is effectively "PRESENT", but that's not what I'm casting it as in case

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Reportor] Agora Sky News vol 7

On Sun, 12 Nov 2017, ATMunn wrote: I agree. I think e said e was going to be pretty busy for a month or two, but still. Also, the wrapping is messed up. The wrapping of eir newspapers was always messed up on the plain text version, and now that the HTML version (which looked fine in my Alpine

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contract (Designating reportor)

On Sun, 12 Nov 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: Amend Rule 2525, Interpreting Contracts, by: Removing item 6 of the numbered list and renumbering appropriately; and Changing the phrase "failing protected action" to read "failing to preform a protected action". I think you mean "perform". Greeti

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7965-7972

Um, nope, still discussion. Greetings, Ørjan. On Thu, 16 Nov 2017, VJ Rada wrote: thanks telnaior. pf. On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 10:49 AM, VJ Rada wrote: I vote ID Author(s) AI TitlePender Pend fee -

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Surveyor] Weekly Report

NttPF. Greetings, Ørjan. On Thu, 16 Nov 2017, VJ Rada wrote: Thu, 09 Nov 2017 08:50:46 V.J Rada bought the Estate of Erehwon for 1,011 shinies ​CoE: this is disputed.​ On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: Recent events (all times UTC) Tue, 09 May 2017 01:02:55 The Es

Re: DIS: Politician Naming

On Sat, 18 Nov 2017, Madeline wrote: Since the party proposal is set to be passing, I'd like to get some good pun names brought in for our array of Politicians. I can offer rewards too (likely a shiny or two per name), and you'll be sparing us all from a terrible fate of auspol jokes! Mad "M

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7973-7880

On Sun, 19 Nov 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote: 7974* V.J. Rada3.0 [2] Really minor fixes V.J. Rada 1 AP FOR. Note that some of these may be Rulekeepor typos; I will do my best to investigate and determine which ones are. Some of the changes are equivalent to "replace text A with s

Re: DIS: PAoaM v3: Not rushed this time and also better in general

On Mon, 20 Nov 2017, Madeline wrote: Maybe the plan is to make Corona and I the richest players :P (I don't think I ever got to claim my welcome package?) I don't think there's any time limit for doing so, if you can catch Agora when it has enough Shinies. Greetings, Ørjan.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Herald election

On Mon, 20 Nov 2017, Corona wrote: Also, what is the point of campaign proposals? (Except for proposing overpowered powers for yourself and ensuring nobody else gets them) Seems like tying a proposal coming into force to your being elected will lower the chances of either happening; players who

DIS: Re: OFF: Re: BUS: Informal Reportor Report (per contract)

On Mon, 20 Nov 2017, Josh T wrote: Economic Chaos The supply value massively increased due to a money printing proposal, but something else went up as well. That thing: the floating value. Now everything is 1: horrifically expensive and 2: Agora has no money because of stamps. Will Agora

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Referee] Weekly Report

On Tue, 21 Nov 2017, VJ Rada wrote: first of all, in my next ADoP report, should I just note this as one report or a report and a revision? There was no formal CoE or anything so probably just one. If you don't formally CoE it, then the first version could self-ratify, with the formatting

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Referee] Weekly Report

On Tue, 21 Nov 2017, VJ Rada wrote: I made a fixed version. CoE denied. This too may cause the original version to self-ratify, since there's no longer a doubt tied to it. Greetings, Ørjan.

DIS: Re: BUS: (no subject)

Doesn't Rule 2240 imply the opposite of your argument? In a conflict between clauses of the same Rule, if exactly one claims precedence over the other, then it takes precedence; otherwise, the later clause takes precedence. Greetings, Ørjan. On Tue, 21 Nov 2017, Kerim Aydin wr

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7973-7880

On Tue, 21 Nov 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: 7880* ATMunn, [5] 1.0 [6] Alexis 1 AP AGAINST. If you deserve it, claim it right away. Three of the reward conditions may be triggered by _other_ people's actions, so this is not always possible, and Agora has a tr

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

On Tue, 21 Nov 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: I pay V.J. Rada 10 shinies for the clever scam. H. Herald candidates, would you consider giving out Scamster for this? I don't think e ever actually won off a scam, but e's come close so many times that e deserves the accolade. Petard hoister. Greetin

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Madeline wrote: Can we just never give you any in-game power ever again But it's so fun to watch! Greetings, Ørjan.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7965-7972

On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, VJ Rada wrote: immediately after". And participation favours are misspelled, so I believe they are unawardable at this time. I don't believe Agora cares about trivial spelling errors. (May also apply to Trigon's Æther comment.) Greetings, Ørjan.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, VJ Rada wrote: I've actually been meaning to ask you this for a while Ørjan, and now seems like a decent time to do so (i don't mean to be rude or w/e obv). What's the story behind your watching of Agora? Because it seems like you were around in like 1993 and have been watch

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

NttPF Greetings, Ørjan. On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote: On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 at 16:45 Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: Is it worth CFJing then? It's certainly intended to be the former, and the serial comma is only required in lists, right? -Aris Probably

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: omd used to have a size-limit on messages that e explicitly turned off for the Rulekeepor (the FLR was over the limit). Can't remember what the limit was or if it's still on. omd confirmed in ##nomic that this happened, and there were two messages by V

Re: DIS: Campaign proposal proto

On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Corona wrote: Well, I felt uncomfortable not having a Campaign Proposal if PSS is going to have one, so... I'd rather if y'all checked it for obvious holes, since it looks like it can't be retracted once announced. Hm you CAN retract it from the Proposal Pool (rule 2350).

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Herald Election Decision Initiation

On Fri, 24 Nov 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: I haven't received the quoted correction yet. I received them in the correct order, although I have the impression Agora mail arrives more out of order than it used to... or maybe it's just the higher volume causing it. Greetings,

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Promotor Draft

On Sun, 26 Nov 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote: I retreat Re-opening the Door. ITYM "retract". Greetings, Ørjan.

DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Weekly Report

That's almost, but not quite chronological order of registration, why not fix that? (You'd need to check who of Cuddlebeam and G. registered first, I guess.) Greetings, Ørjan. On Sun, 26 Nov 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: Players (16) (Rule 869, self-ratifying)     Player 

DIS: Auctions broken (Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7973-7980)

On Sun, 26 Nov 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: Create a power-1 rule titled "Auction Initiation" { An entity authorized by a rule or contract to initiate an Auction CAN do so by announcement. If the rule or contract specifies that that entity MUST do so, that entity SHALL do so i

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7982-7988

On Sun, 26 Nov 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: // ID: 7982 Title: Referee Reform Fix Adoption index: 1.7 Author: V.J. Rada Co-authors: At the end of rule 2478 "Viglilante Justice", add a new paragraph with the text "The Referee CAN

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

On Mon, 27 Nov 2017, VJ Rada wrote: I destroy 20 notes and trade them for shinies. I create and pend with shinies the following two proposals. ITYM "bills". Greetings, Ørjan.

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Clork] Weekly Report

On Mon, 27 Nov 2017, VJ Rada wrote: You can either deny it or publish a revision. You should do neither, but note that you will eventually have to choose one if the cfj isn't judged w/in the next 7 days, which it won't be. No, point 2.3 of rule 2201 allows em to cite an already existing CFJ.

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3608 FALSE

On Mon, 27 Nov 2017, Corona wrote: I judge CFJ 3608 as FALSE, and note that proposals not in the Proposal Pool cannot have an Imminence switch. (What a headache. Hopefully that's right.) That did turn out even more complicated than I thought... thanks for judging! Greetings, Ørjan.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3608 FALSE

On Mon, 27 Nov 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote: There is a possibility that I think was not addressed: that the Proposal, by virtue of being always pending, is thus also always in the Proposal Pool. But there may be an easy resolution to that so I won't support this yet. I actually considered this pos

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Auctions broken (Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 7973-7980)

On Mon, 27 Nov 2017, ATMunn wrote: Title: "Un-breaking Auctions" AI: 1 Author: ATMunn Amend the rule titled "Auction End" by replacing the first sentence with An Auction ends 7 days after its initiation, or immediately if no bid has been placed or withdrawn in the last 96 hours and at least 9

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7982-7988

ticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com On Nov 26, 2017, at 9:26 PM, VJ Rada wrote: I change my vote to AGAINST on minimal econ reforms. On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 1:25 PM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: On Sun, 26 Nov 2017, Aris Merchant

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Arbitor] CFJ 3607 assigned to G. (and judged with help from ATMunn)

On Mon, 27 Nov 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: Oooh, yes - that's very far reaching and precisely the sort of thing that clause is meant to stop. I need to go do Something Else now and this deserves some thoughts about arguments, but if no one gets to it before me, I'll call it tomorrow-ish. So give

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [ACU] Bank Statement

NttPF Greetings, Ørjan. On Tue, 28 Nov 2017, VJ Rada wrote: (If I can take game actions) I deposit my shinies, exchanging them w/ ACU for bills. On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: The Agoran Credit Union report Date of this report: Date of last report: N/A Chair: o P

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Anyone want to be interim Referee?

On Tue, 28 Nov 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 at 01:03 Gaelan Steele wrote: I support and do so. This doesn't work as you don't hold the office, however, with o, Aris, and Gaelan's support, I do so. I'm pretty sure Gaelan's action is _intended_ to work by rule 1728 § 4.3,

Dependent Actions Proto (Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Anyone want to be interim Referee?)

supporters if the action ["Actor" isn't used anywhere else in the rule.] }}} Greetings, Ørjan. On Tue, 28 Nov 2017, Ørjan Johansen wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 at 01:03 Gaelan Steele wrote: I support and do so. This doesn't work a

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Anyone want to be interim Referee?

reetings, Ørjan. On Tue, Nov 28, 2017, 01:45 Ørjan Johansen, wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 at 01:03 Gaelan Steele wrote: I support and do so. This doesn't work as you don't hold the office, however, with o, Aris, and Gaelan's suppo

DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3611 assigned to Aris

On Tue, 28 Nov 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: I AP-CFJ, on behalf of VJ Rada, "Rule 2507 does not exist." This is because its enactment was INEFFECTIVE, per paragraph 3 clause 1 of Rule 217. This is CFJ 3611, I assign it to Aris. Gratui

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Notice of Honor

On Tue, 28 Nov 2017, Corona wrote: This message was blocked for some reason It indeed doesn't seem to have reached any of the archives. Are you sure it was sent, and if so did you receive an error message? Greetings, Ørjan. On 11/28/17, Corona wrote: This is a Notice of Honor: -1 Karm

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ & Deregistration

On Tue, 28 Nov 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: Keep in mind that it may not be all or nothing. Black Cards are only Power-2. So the RttCN clause in that Rule only applies to abilities of power 2 or less (if that approach is taken). So likely all the stuff like deregistration/registration works. In

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Anyone want to be interim Referee?

On Wed, 29 Nov 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote: I mean that supporters are not allowed to perform actions restricted to specific players. For example, only the correct officer can resolve an officer-only intent. I'm pretty sure it still works if it's generally "any player CAN with 2 support". Oh. Car

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3611 assigned to Aris

On Wed, 29 Nov 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 at 20:24 Ørjan Johansen wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: Gratuitous Arguments H. Judge, I request you examine all the reasons that Slamming the Door may have failed (i.e. if it's interpreted that Slamming the

Re: DIS: Mail shenanigans

On Tue, 28 Nov 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: Did anyone receive a message from me yesterday, addressed to a-b, purporting to distribute Agora’s assets? Message-ID f7c7dc62-8fb1-4b65-9606-5f27cbd7c...@grimoire.ca, if you see it and want to verify. I ask because it’s gone missing. I never receive

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ & Deregistration

e are possible scams because someone wrote a rule assuming securing does more than that. Greetings, Ørjan. On 11/28/2017 09:11 PM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: Keep in mind that it may not be all or nothing.  Black Cards are only Power-2.  So the RttCN clau

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Notice of Honor

org has been blocked. See technical details below for more information. Learn more here: https://support.google.com/mail/answer/69585 The response was: Message rejected. See https://support.google.com/mail/answer/69585 for more information. On 11/28/17, Ørjan Johansen wrote: On Tue, 28 No

Re: DIS: Draft Ruling on CFJs 3611-3612

On Thu, 30 Nov 2017, Alex Smith wrote: On Wed, 2017-11-29 at 17:30 -0800, Aris Merchant wrote: because the message where e did everything except the rewards got caught in the scam filter and never went through. Ugh, if Agora really does have a scam filter now, I'll have to look into creative

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ & Deregistration

On Thu, 30 Nov 2017, Telnaior wrote: That's kind of a pity, given how longstanding that rule is. How about we fix that? I create the following proposal and spend an Action Point (1 -> 0) to pend it: Title: Don't FAGE the FAGE Author: Telnaior AI: 3 { Change the power of Rule 1789 ("Cantus C

Re: DIS: Logo?

On Wed, 29 Nov 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: What would people think of a proposal actually specifying that Agorans all share copyright over the rules (and the gamestate in general) and that they are licensed under X licence? I don't think this would ever actually be a problem, but it's probably be

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ & Deregistration

that e consents to deregistration. Greetings, Ørjan. On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 4:24 PM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: On Thu, 30 Nov 2017, Telnaior wrote: That's kind of a pity, given how longstanding that rule is. How about we fix that? I create the following proposal and spend an Action

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of the Election for Herald and Proposal 7981

: 2x {Corona, PSS} VJ Rada: 5x {VJ Rada, Corona} G.: {PSS, Corona} Aris: {Corona, PSS} o: {Corona, PSS} On 11/30/2017 12:04 AM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: On Wed, 29 Nov 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: Correct, CoE accepted. I republish the below: CoEs, on whichever are the non-superse

Summing up this mess (Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of the Election for Herald and Proposal 7981)

rona, PSS} VJ Rada: 5x {VJ Rada, Corona} G.: {PSS, Corona} Aris: {Corona, PSS} o: {Corona, PSS} On 11/30/2017 12:04 AM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: On Wed, 29 Nov 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: Correct, CoE accepted. I republish the below: CoEs, on whichever are the non-superseded v

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rewards

NttPF Greetings, Ørjan. On Sun, 3 Dec 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote: Huh, came through now. I claim 5 shinies for the FLR. On Sun, 3 Dec 2017 at 11:26 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote: I have note received the FLR. Publius Scribonius Scholasti

DIS: Re: BUS: Taking the bench

On Sun, 3 Dec 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: I announce my intent to resign Arbitor while appointing PSS to the office, with 3 support. Supporters, please don't announce "I do so" so the transition can be timed cleanly. As Alexis advised me recently, "I do so" doesn't apply to actions needing an O

Re: DIS: Bug

This could be bad. Seriously, the current Rule 2125 is more trouble than it's worth. Greetings, Ørjan. On Mon, 4 Dec 2017, ATMunn wrote: I just noticed something about rule 2201, "Self-Ratification": [snip] 2. A claim of error, appropriate for matters of fact. The publ

DIS: Re: OFF: [Surveyor] Monthly Auction

On Tue, 5 Dec 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: As we are operating under Auction new rules, please keep in mind that Rule 2551 also requires that the auction ends if 96 hours pass without a bid. To prevent this from immediately ending the auction, I bid 1 Shiny. ATMunn CFJed on this, I'm not sure i

Re: DIS: Bug

On Tue, 5 Dec 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: Well, it works with the SHALL. Does SHALL imply CAN this week? Greetings, Ørjan. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com On Dec 5, 2017, at 9:05 PM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: This could be bad

DIS: Re: BUS: I'm not dead!

On Sun, 17 Dec 2017, Edward Murphy wrote: Having caught up on the Public Fora, I register. Hi! Just a month too late to fail because you were still registered... (Why _did_ all those people get deregistered just about when they could have been made zombies instead? Or is that broken too...)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Assessor] Resignation

On Wed, 20 Dec 2017, ATMunn wrote: actually, crap. If there's no Assessor, then unless only one person runs for the office, there will be no way to resolve it. How doesn't deputization work? Greetings, Ørjan.

Re: DIS: merry christmas guys

On Mon, 25 Dec 2017, VJ Rada wrote: see title I'm sorry, but I believe precedent is that this is not clear enough for an action. Also, Merry Christmas! Ørjan.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Reportor] Holiday Arts Supplement

On Mon, 25 Dec 2017, Cuddle Beam wrote: If I've getting this correctly, FRC is heavily roleplay-based, yes? Like, it's less about playing the rules than just making them for aesthetics and fantasy. Back when I played, that varied from round to round, on a sliding scale between some rounds bei

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] (Dis)Honorable Agorans

ood player, and proposals) G. (22 Oct 2017) -1 V.J. Rada (random choice), +1 ATMunn (good first proposal). ~Corona​ On 01:31, Dec 18, 2017, at 01:31, "Ørjan Johansen" wrote: On Sun, 17 Dec 2017, Corona wrote: As Herald I publish the following weekly report: +3 ATMun COE: Missing an n. Greetings, Ørjan.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] (Dis)Honorable Agorans

On Sun, 31 Dec 2017, Corona wrote: 》Happy New Year, y'all!《 I accept that COE and publish the revised report: Fifth time's the charm! Greetings, Ørjan.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Reportor] This time with feeling...

On Fri, 5 Jan 2018, Corona wrote: Woo-hoo! A round of applause for our distinguished poet, please!​ Hip hip hooray! Although the scansion is a bit hard. There should be a prize for anyone who manages to sing the whole thing (each day included.) Greetings, Ørjan. On 22:30, Jan 5, 2018, a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Reportor] This time with feeling...

Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote: It's very well written, but I tried to sing it and kept running out of breath. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com On Jan 5, 2018, at 7:14 PM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: On Fri, 5 Jan 2018, C

DIS: Re: OFF: [Prime Minister] A Glorious New Era is Upon Us

On Sat, 13 Jan 2018, Alexis Hunt wrote: Having won the game by expenditure of Balloons, I hereby appoint Aris as Speaker. Why does your winning the game make Aris the Speaker? Grammatings, Ørjan.

DIS: Re: BUS: Limdrum World Lite (fwd)

On Fri, 26 Jan 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: It's Lindrum, not Limdrum HTH Greetings, Ørjan.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] Court Gazette

NttPF Greetings, Ørjan. On Mon, 29 Jan 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: CoE: I think during my brief Reign of Terror, I recused all the late judges and reassigned all these CFJs to myself? Or do you think that didn't work for some reason... On Sun, 28 Jan 2018, Edward Murphy wrote: ==

DIS: Re: BUS: boo!

On Wed, 31 Jan 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: I set 天火狐's master switch to Agora. I set Quazie's master switch to Agora. I set Gaelan's master switch to Agora. I set nichdel's master switch to Agora. Not that it matters, but I recall Quazie's was already set. Greetings, Ørjan.

Re: DIS: Treasuror draft [ADoP pls check?]

On Wed, 31 Jan 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: 2. Payday 1 (happened when Proposal 8004 was adopted) a. 10 shinies per player created; b. 3 shinies per office held 16 days in December (with no cards above Green) Isn't the rule slightly ambiguous about whether "in the previous month" i

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: boo!

On Fri, 2 Feb 2018, Alex Smith wrote: On Fri, 2018-02-02 at 11:32 -0800, Gaelan Steele wrote: Awfully quiet in here. I intend without objection to win by apathy. I support. . o O ( Is there a scam here? ) Greetings, Ørjan.

Re: DIS: [Proto] There's no economy anymore.

On Fri, 2 Feb 2018, Reuben Staley wrote: In the first Eastman week of an Agoran month, the Treasuror SHALL do the following: This seems to miss some CANs and methods. Greetings, Ørjan.

DIS: Re: BUS: Contract Destruction

On Tue, 6 Feb 2018, Telnaior wrote: I convert all of my bills into shinies with the Credit Union (this is still a thing, right?). In theory, but the Union has no shinies since the proposal "Rusty" passed. Greetings, Ørjan.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A Successful Party

On Wed, 7 Feb 2018, Alex Smith wrote: On Wed, 2018-02-07 at 01:15 +, Alexis Hunt wrote: Proposal: End of an Era (AI=3) {{{ THE YEAR OF CELEBRATION BEING COMPLETE, RULE 2486 IS HEREBY REPEALED. }}} Wait, if this proposal is in allcaps, does that mean we have to vote on it in secret? (That

DIS: Re: BUS: Rejoice, the Limerickmeister, has FINALLY arrived to grace Agora

On Wed, 7 Feb 2018, Cuddle Beam wrote: Ok so, hear me out, this is a limerick about butts It's pretty good, I've got this down, butts. give each Agoran a shiny, butts And a coin, butts This is a classy proposal - butts butts butts! Going for the joke option, I take, since it fulfils none of th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rejoice, the Limerickmeister, has FINALLY arrived to grace Agora

On Thu, 8 Feb 2018, Madeline wrote: On 2018-02-08 12:26, Ørjan Johansen wrote: On Wed, 7 Feb 2018, Cuddle Beam wrote: Ok so, hear me out, this is a limerick about butts It's pretty good, I've got this down, butts. give each Agoran a shiny, butts And a coin, butts This is a class

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] Corrections

On Fri, 16 Feb 2018, Alex Smith wrote: If we want a consistent rule, my suggestion would be to capitalise any terms that the game is redefining away from their standard English meaning. So, e.g., Shiny would be capitalised because it doesn't have the meaning of "anything that shines", but rather

DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Medal of Honour Decision

On Mon, 19 Feb 2018, Corona wrote: For this decision, the valid votes are {Murphy, ATMunn, Alexis, Cuddle Beam, Telnaior}, the vote collector is the Herald, and the voting method is instant-runoff. This may be invalid. You're supposed to describe the options, not the votes. Although what yo

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Office Restructuring

On Fri, 23 Feb 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: A holder of an elected office is interim if and only if a. e did not become its holder by winning an election; b. e has not since won an election for that office; and c. e has not held the office continuously for 30 days without an election for

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8008-8015 (fwd)

On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: Create a new rule "Paydays" (Power=2) and amend it so that its text reads, in full: This is written as if it were two rule changes, but doesn't specify the original text before amendment. Re-enact rule 1996/3 (Power=1), renaming it to "The Cartograph

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Treasuror] Asset Balances

NttPF. Greetings, Ørjan. On Sat, 24 Feb 2018, Gaelan Steele wrote: Ahem. If I am Treasuror, I accept the CoE and publish the following revised report. If not, I deputize for Treasuror to publish the following report. Name| Ore | Ston | Lumb | Appl | Cotn | Corn | Coin | Papr | Fa

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8008-8015 (fwd)

null and void. This seems like a possible can of worms to me, with a need to judge the contents of every modified reenactment according to an unclear definition. Greetings, Ørjan. On Sun, 25 Feb 2018, Alexis Hunt wrote: On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 at 19:52 Ørjan Johansen wrote: On Sat, 24

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