DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal 7395

2013-04-10 Thread omd
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: I submit a proposal, titled Seventy-Three Ninety-Five: In Rule 2367 Messy Statements, replace inaccurate and incorrect with nonsensical and meaningless. Arguments: considering both a statement and its negation to be

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Interstellar administration and weather report

2013-04-12 Thread omd
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: TL;DR: the office of ATC is vacant and the Registrar is behind in eir duties. I initiate an election for Registrar. omd is considered to have

DIS: Re: BUS: Votes

2013-04-13 Thread omd
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: 7386 2.0 Ordinary scshunt Eraser FOR. Sorry Bayes, the small positive you contribute isn't worth the large negatives brought by the rest of the golems. For the record, just the other day I was planning to make

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Votes

2013-04-14 Thread omd
On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 2:00 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: The most someone can get is just under 3xbase, I'm not sure this really that unfair compared to a lot of past systems? Or am I missing something. -G. Oops, I forgot that the default limit is now 4... In general I

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7364–7395

2013-04-15 Thread omd
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 5:54 PM, woggle woggl...@gmail.com wrote: 7382 1.0 Plutocra omd Плутократия! With 3 Agoran consent, I hereby make the decision to adopt Proposal 7382 Democratic. Murphy and Roujo supported and there were no objectors. Oops, I forgot to object...

DIS: Re: BUS: Some cleanup

2013-04-18 Thread omd
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: The new rule has power as specified by the enacting instrument, defaulting to one if not specified, but if that power is less than a minimum or more than a maximum specified

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Amended: Distribution of Proposals 7396–7413

2013-04-18 Thread omd
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 12:37 AM, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: If it is ambiguous whether or not the proposal contained the text in brackets, then it could be argued that I chose to interpret the text in brackets as not being part of the text of the proposal, and thus the

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3306 assigned to omd

2013-04-20 Thread omd
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=3306 == CFJ 3306 == scshunt satisfies the Victory Condition of Junta due to Rule 2380

DIS: Re: BUS: Deregistering

2013-04-22 Thread omd
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 3:32 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: I hereby deregister all Golems and Agora Nomic. correction: the Golems were already destroyed, so this only deregistered Agora.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal

2013-04-23 Thread omd
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: I don't think this solves the problem. I think the problem is people putting in switches without thinking about tracking, the requirement to add untracked doesn't help. Also, I'm nervous about having untracked

DIS: Re: BUS: it's only been like four months let's try this again

2013-04-23 Thread omd
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 5:36 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: I intend, without objection, to change the Publicity of the fora currently located at agora-busin...@agoranomic.org, agora-offic...@agoranomic.org, and agora-discussion@agoranomic.org to Foreign. I am now sending the above

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] VC Report

2013-04-23 Thread omd
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 4:04 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: Apr 16 0:13 Report published Machiavelli -6 While this seems (more or less) accurate, I notice that you didn't put down the reason

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: That Ambassador is a Spy!

2013-04-25 Thread omd
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: (But I assume that the Promotor can do that practically effortlessly, and it wouldn't actually help the Rulekeepor at all.) As Promotor, it's my policy not to reformat proposals because (a) it historically hasn't

DIS: Re: BUS: Enforcement

2013-04-27 Thread omd
On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I submit the following proposal: { Enforcement Enact a Rule entitled The Prosecutor with the following text: The Prosecutor is an office. As soon as possible after a player breaks the Rules, the

DIS: Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] Short Logical Ruleset

2013-04-28 Thread omd
On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 10:20 PM, woggle woggl...@gmail.com wrote: THE SHORT LOGICAL RULESET Are you going to keep the web ruleset at https://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/~charles/agora/current_flr.txt updated?

Re: DIS: Proto: Yaks 2.0

2013-04-28 Thread omd
On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Yaks, with currency symbol '#' are a class of assets and a currency; their ownership is restricted to players. The Yak missing comma, and class of assets and a currency is redundant The Yak

Re: DIS: Proto: Yaks 2.0

2013-04-29 Thread omd
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Any player CAN, by announcement, set the Chamber of an entity to Democratic for a cost of 1000 Yaks. Democracy is easy enough already :( Would you rather I: a) Increase the cost b) Remove the

DIS: Re: BUS: proto: infractions

2013-04-29 Thread omd
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: The final version will go through and replace a bunch of crimes with infractions and maybe add a few. This is just to proto the mechanism. You should also replace some serious but unmarked SHALL NOTs with Crimes, such

DIS: Re: BUS: Meet Agora's newest first-class player

2013-04-29 Thread omd
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: To which I'll expand: the prime example of permissiveness in CFJ 1719 was partnerships (now gone) Arguments: Partnerships, including the implicit ability to act on behalf of them, were originally recognized by CFJ (by

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3306 assigned to omd

2013-04-29 Thread omd
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 3:19 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: Even though the effect of such a misinterpretation is lessened in this case because the general effects of the action scshunt meant to take and the one e wrote are the same, it's still a misinterpretation, and the potential

DIS: Re: BUS: Meet Agora's newest first-class player

2013-04-29 Thread omd
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 3:44 PM, woggle woggl...@gmail.com wrote: See CFJ 1856 (finding that there was insufficient evidence, in a similar situation, that the act-on-behalf agreement met the historical versions of R101(iii) and R101(iv) and therefore judged such an attempt unsuccessful).

DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Banks

2013-04-30 Thread omd
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Defining a bank for a Rules-backed currency is Secured. As written, only the rule defining a currency can define a Bank for it, so securing this is unnecessary. The creation or awarding of instances

Re: DIS: On Agora's Vigintennial

2013-04-30 Thread omd
Did everyone not realize this was coming up, or just me? :) I invite any sort of publicity that might encourage Agora's current just-getting-out-of-a-slump.

Re: DIS: OFF: Lists have been transferred (but are still Foreign)

2013-05-02 Thread omd
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 12:50 AM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: There is an experimental feature which I went ahead and implemented, but I'd appreciate feedback and will turn it off if desired: all list messages are piped through a script which rewrites the Date header to be the same

Re: DIS: OFF: Lists have been transferred (but are still Foreign)

2013-05-02 Thread omd
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: On 2 May 2013 18:18, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: Not everyone has Gmail's spam filtering! Surely even mailman can weakly obfuscate addresses in the archives. The archives include the raw mbox, and I don't

Re: DIS: OFF: Lists have been transferred (but are still Foreign)

2013-05-02 Thread omd
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: On 2 May 2013 17:58, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: The archives include the raw mbox, and I don't really want to obfuscate that, because then the obfuscated version will end up getting backed up and published

DIS: Re: OFF: Lists have been transferred (but are still Foreign)

2013-05-02 Thread omd
Testing. Just set OLD_STYLE_PREFIXING = No, so the subject of this message should be DIS: Re: OFF:, as before, instead of Re: DIS: OFF:

DIS: Re: OFF: Lists have been transferred (but are still Foreign)

2013-05-02 Thread omd
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: ...and unfortunately, it seems that this is enough to make Gmail treat the message as distinct from the original, so if you send a reply, you now get a duplicate, rather than that only happening when you switch fora.

DIS: trivial progress

2013-05-02 Thread omd
- Date hack disabled until I can figure out what to do about the duplicate messages. - Slightly updated http://www.agoranomic.org and now on GitHub at https://github.com/comex/agoranomic. (I updated the FLR links, removed the text about me being the Rulekeepor, changed the link to

DIS: Re: BUS: Integral Switches Modifiers

2013-05-03 Thread omd
On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: Proposal: Numericity (AI=2) {{{ Enact a new power-3 rule entitled Integral Switches as follows: An integral switch is a switch defined as such by the rules. An integral switch may be defined to have any

DIS: test

2013-05-04 Thread omd
testing digest.

DIS: Re: test

2013-05-04 Thread omd
On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 3:50 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: testing digest. oops, derp.

DIS: Re: test

2013-05-04 Thread omd
I fixed something, but I also didn't receive any digest when I ran senddigests. Testing again. Sorry for the spam.

DIS: Re: test

2013-05-04 Thread omd
On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 4:19 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: I fixed something, but I also didn't receive any digest when I ran senddigests. Testing again. Sorry for the spam. Never mind. It should be fixed now. Also, the archives are now being properly updated.

Re: DIS: test

2013-05-04 Thread omd
One more test - this time I'm trying to fix the DIS: Re: problem.

Re: DIS: Rulekeepor

2013-05-04 Thread omd
On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On May 5, 2013 1:03 AM, Henri Bouchard henrib...@gmail.com wrote: Who is the current Rulekeepor? It hasn't changed since I published my report... He just subscribed. It's woggle, ruleset is at

Re: DIS: Entity

2013-05-05 Thread omd
On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Henri Bouchard henrib...@gmail.com wrote: What is an entity? Is it the same thing as a player? http://www.thefreedictionary.com/entity Everything is an entity.

Re: DIS: Re: BAK: [Registrar] Census

2013-05-05 Thread omd
On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 11:12 PM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: djanatyn [1] c/o Machiavelli 2013-04-29 djanatyn can be reached at djana...@gmail.com. Noted.

DIS: Re: BUS: Official CFJs

2013-05-06 Thread omd
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: I initiate a criminal CFJ alleging that omd violated Rule 2143 by failing to report on Adoption Index and Chamber last week. Defendant's arguments: I considered publishing such a report, but Adoption Index of Agoran

DIS: Re: BUS: Bribery for Proposal Rights

2013-05-06 Thread omd
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: Sounds fun. I join the Bucky Proposal Proxy Party. Even though I don't think co-authors are going to get VCs once a certain proposal passes. It already passed, sorry :p

DIS: A suggestion for the Herald

2013-05-07 Thread omd
[13:42:48] taral I can't believe I was distributor for 10 years. [13:42:59] taral Someone award me 10 Years Long Service please. I thank you for your long service. :)

Re: DIS: On Agora's Vigintennial

2013-05-07 Thread omd
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Like I've said, I support the return of contract law. In fact I'm working on a proto at the minute. The point is, we don't need complex charters for the basic let's run a sub-game based around an event and have it go

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7418-7425

2013-05-07 Thread omd
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Mon, 6 May 2013, omd wrote: 7421 3 G.What you WILL AGAINST Is there a bug here I should know about, or you just don't like the shorthand? I'm somewhat against it because will and shall mean about

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7418-7425

2013-05-07 Thread omd
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Yeah, I had problem coming up with an easy short phrase. WILL isn't used so I picked that. (I thought about REQUESTED AND REQUIRED, while nice and colorful, it isn't that much shorter, and raises the question about

DIS: Re: BUS: My perennial plagiaristic pastime

2013-05-07 Thread omd
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Benjamin Schultz ben.dov.schu...@gmail.com wrote: Why me? ::checks drop-box:: I was proposing rules copied verbatim from past proposals - somewhat pointlessly. By my count, two or three of my proposals would actually be interesting to adopt; I was hoping for

DIS: Re: BUS: New Player

2013-05-07 Thread omd
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Henri Bouchard henrib...@gmail.com wrote: I intend to become a player at this time. Welcome back! Incidentally, G., would you like me to restore the note about Gravity Circumference Line Deja Vu Cardboard Duck e^(-kt), or is your nickname now officially G.? (It

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7418-7425

2013-05-07 Thread omd
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: 7419 3 omd Clear the books AGAINST Why?

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7418-7425

2013-05-08 Thread omd
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: I vote: NttPF

Re: DIS: Request for H. Distributor omd

2013-05-12 Thread omd
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: As long as you're rewriting headers, can you rewrite them to move Date: to the bottom? Makes it easier to find. Okay. I currently have the header rewriting disabled because of the Gmail issue, but I'll address that and

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3320 assigned to omd

2013-05-13 Thread omd
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 1:49 PM, woggle woggl...@gmail.com wrote: I hereby appeal this judgment. Arguments: The message was eventually delivered. Per CFJ 1646 and CFJ 2058, it was sent when it left my technical domain of control, which was before the deadline. Even if this precedent does not

Re: DIS: I am Ienpw III...

2013-05-13 Thread omd
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 6:57 PM, James Beirne james.m.bei...@gmail.com wrote: ...by the way, and I'd like be referred to by that name (if it's not too much trouble). Noted. Welcome back. - The Registrar

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Quick late judgement

2013-05-14 Thread omd
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: I don't think it necessarily makes sense to say that the severity of a crime is linearly proportional to its Class. I don't feel like seven class-2 crimes ought to equate to one class-14 crime. Quadratic makes more

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7426-7434

2013-05-15 Thread omd
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Wes Contreras w...@antitribu.com wrote: Proposal 7434 (AI=3, Ordinary) by omd Fifty-Nine Thirty-Seven We vote AGAINST. We find victory by paradox to still be quite possible. How so?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7426-7434

2013-05-15 Thread omd
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Wes Contreras w...@antitribu.com wrote: Do you contend that an infinite recursion is the only means by which the truth value of an inquiry CFJ cannot be determined? If so, we contend that you lack imagination, but would prefer not to demonstrate such a thing

DIS: Re: BUS: All of the attempts to cash a promise in this message fail.

2013-05-20 Thread omd
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: I submit a promise, titled Gold Z, with empty text, and with condition for cashing The sum of all numbers 2^n such that I have a promise titled 'Gold 2^n' is an even number greater than 2 that is not the sum of two

DIS: Fwd: Pinging Watchers of Agora Nomic

2013-05-22 Thread omd
For the record, prompted by someone asking to be a Watcher, I just sent this out. -- Forwarded message -- From: omd c.ome...@gmail.com Date: Wed, May 22, 2013 at 5:27 PM Subject: Pinging Watchers of Agora Nomic To: b...@fushizen.net, cmil...@brainsprain.net, davidni...@gmail.com

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: bleh 2

2013-05-23 Thread omd
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Thinking of defaults, I was also wondering about default expirations, (as these promises tend to lose relevance over time). I think Horton's destruction without objection is sufficient for those.

DIS: Re: BUS: Intent to deputise

2013-05-23 Thread omd
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Jonathan Rouillard jonathan.rouill...@gmail.com wrote: If I haven't already voted on these, I vote PRESENT on all of them. (I sent a message to the list, but it was down so it told me that it would retry automatically. I have no idea if it actually did, so eh.

DIS: back up?

2013-05-24 Thread omd
This one's not even my fault :) After the actual domain transfer for agoranomic.org completed yesterday, I attempted to transfer DNS from the servers Taral was using to namecheap's servers, first by choosing namecheap's transfer DNS feature and then by directly changing the list of DNS servers.

Re: DIS: Proto-proposal: Igora

2013-05-24 Thread omd
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: A party is a type of second-class person and a player. What happens if one is deregistered? A player CAN flip eir party membership by announcement, provided that e satisfies any conditions for

Re: DIS: Fwd: Pinging Watchers of Agora Nomic

2013-05-24 Thread omd
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: I was the Registrar who sent out that 2011 email, and everyone flipped a shit that I removed people without their explicit instruction to do so. IIRC I ended up removing the non-responders anyway (which was nearly

DIS: Proto: Spelling abuse capitalisation VLOP 2.0

2013-05-25 Thread omd
Proto: Spelling abuse capitalisation VLOP 2.0 (co-author=ais523, Bayes) Amend Rule 2389 (Ordinary Chamber) to read: Ordinary is a Voting Chamber. Lexicographor is an office. Keyword is a player switch, tracked by the Lexicographor, whose value is a string of case-sensitive

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Proto-proposal: Igora

2013-05-25 Thread omd
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: Does not work, see Rule 1030. Hmm - it probably ought to be be possible to defer to a lower-powered rule, though.

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Proto-proposal: Igora

2013-05-25 Thread omd
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: Hmm - it probably ought to be be possible to defer to a lower-powered rule, though. You could still make this work; you'd just need different wording. In Rule 955, between items (a) and (b) (or before item (a)), say,

Re: DIS: Proto-proposal: Igora

2013-05-25 Thread omd
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 5:02 AM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Could you clarify when spivak is and is not appropriate? As Machiavelli said, Spivak pronouns are singular. (And in singular, we use e rather than ey.) This should only apply to decisions to adopt proposals.

DIS: Re: agora-official post from woggl...@gmail.com requires approval

2013-05-25 Thread omd
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 11:25 AM, agora-official-ow...@agoranomic.org wrote: As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the following mailing list posting: List:agora-offic...@agoranomic.org From:woggl...@gmail.com Subject: [Rulekeepor] Full Logical

Re: DIS: Proto: Spelling abuse capitalisation VLOP 2.0

2013-05-25 Thread omd
Updated version that allows for multiple words, but at a high (and quadratic) cost, introduces a hand limit of 10, and tweaks the numbers: Proto: Spelling abuse capitalisation VLOP 2.0 (co-author=ais523, Bayes) Amend Rule 2389 (Ordinary Chamber) to read: Ordinary is a Voting Chamber.

DIS: Re: BUS: Election

2013-05-26 Thread omd
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: Campaign Speech: I gently chastise scshunt for sending an 837kb message to the lists. - The Distributor

Re: DIS: Re: Star Chamber

2013-05-26 Thread omd
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Fool fool1...@gmail.com wrote: Now, am I mistaken that the initiator is also a participant? If so it seems you've effectively made em a biased manager. Nothing prevents em and eir allies from watching the turn while it's in progress, and it would not be

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Dismissal Accountabilty

2013-05-27 Thread omd
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: Fines can be avoided by disposing of the assets, for instance. No, they can't. Fines are a SHALL destroy; if the ninny disposes of eir assets, e can be found guilty of violating that and sentenced to a different

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Dismissal Accountabilty

2013-05-27 Thread omd
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: No, they can't. Fines are a SHALL destroy; if the ninny disposes of eir assets, e can be found guilty of violating that and sentenced to a different punishment. But if e disposes of eir assets while the judgement

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Assessor] Voting Results for Proposals 7426-36

2013-05-27 Thread omd
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Machiavelli voted AGAINST 7431: http://www.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2013-May/031143.html Admitted. omd only re-voted on 7426-34, and only after eir VVLOP was increased to 5 (not after

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7437-7443

2013-05-27 Thread omd
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: I do so. Since my original message was accidentally NTTPF, I think this is a reasonably clear and unambiguous synonym for submitting the quoted proposal. As Promotor, so do I.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Assessor] Voting Results for Proposals 7426-36

2013-05-27 Thread omd
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Admitted in part and denied in part. When I re-voted, I cast either 4 or 5 additional votes per proposal (depending on how you interpret it), so the total number of votes was greater than my final voting limit of 7.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 7418-25

2013-05-27 Thread omd
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I initiate an election for Yak Herdor, nominating myself. I initiate an election for IADoP and nominate myself. I publish the following Proposed Budget: Office Salary

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 7418-25

2013-05-27 Thread omd
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: Rulekeepor 0 Yak Herdor 0 INEFFECTIVE as you do not have the power to initiate an IADoP election by announcement. And because it was nttPF.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 7426-34

2013-05-27 Thread omd
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: The Registrar's report never recorded scshunt registering on Apr 1: http://www.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-official/2013-April/009991.html It also inconsistently recorded Machiavelli becoming inactive on

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Naughtiness (part 1)

2013-05-29 Thread omd
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: If you're looking for a not guilty now to immunize yourself from a guilty later, that doesn't work. R101 forbids multiple penalties, but not multiple trials. There is a specific precedent to this (I think I argued

DIS: Re: BUS: Yak niggles

2013-05-30 Thread omd
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Note that the use of 'pending', which was defined by the Yaks proposal, means that the Promotor is never required to distribute a proposal in the same week in which it was submitted. Oops, sorry! I guess the

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3318 judged NOT GUILTY by Wes; appealed by scshunt, omd, Walker; appeal assigned to Ienpw III, G., Henri

2013-05-30 Thread omd
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: I initiate a CFJ on the statement If the time period for judging CFJ 3318a ends with no majority opinion among members of the panel assigned to it, then the Ambassador-At-Large will be REQUIRED to cause the panel to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Yak niggles

2013-05-30 Thread omd
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: In a given Agoran week, the Promotor SHALL, as part of eir weekly duties: a) distribute the MI pending proposals with the highest Distributability, breaking ties in favour of proposals

Re: DIS: Entreco!

2013-05-30 Thread omd
Gratuitous evidence: comex tswett: does Entreco have any players other than yourself? tswett No.

Re: DIS: Question for H. Promotor

2013-06-02 Thread omd
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Do you intend to distribute all proposals as usual, or will you distribute only those with positive distributability as if P2425 hadn't failed to amend R1607? I am required to distribute them all, at least this

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [IADoP] Governmental Waste Election

2013-06-03 Thread omd
I offer to vote for any candidate with salary 1 for a price of 2x salary, to be paid only if that candidate wins. (I'd submit a promise, but I'm still unsure whether the Tree is actually functional; Ienpw III hasn't judged the relevant case within the time limit and the Assessor hasn't yet

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 7426-34

2013-06-03 Thread omd
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 8:55 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: For my own record, I'll note that the first error was not mine (it was in woggle's deputy Registrar report), but the second was. My apologies, Machiavelli. Actually, the first error was also mine because the deputy Registrar

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7453-7469

2013-06-03 Thread omd
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:07 PM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: 7453 2 0 O scshunt Criminal Accountability 7466 1.7 40 O scshunt Victim's Rights 7467 370 O scshunt New Precedents 7468 240 O scshunt Fix Bug 7469 3 0 O scshunt Proposal editing Minor

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [IADoP] Governmental Waste Election

2013-06-03 Thread omd
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: Not-really-a-CoE: I don't recall whether or not I was an active player at the time that I purported to nominate myself. If I was not, then I am not a candidate. You were not.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] VC Report

2013-06-03 Thread omd
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: I believe that at least one IADoP report will have ratified my playerhood since. Meh, you're right. In that case, your playerhood has been flipping between dates one week after publications of Registrar's reports and

DIS: Re: BUS: Blargh

2013-06-03 Thread omd
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: Since I just realized that AssessorDB got quorum wrong on the Agoran Decision to adopt proposal 7435, since it's based on the players at initiation, I submit a proposal identical to 7435 and then I initiate an

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7453-7469

2013-06-04 Thread omd
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 10:43 PM, woggle woggl...@gmail.com wrote: CoE: I submitted a proposal in my Rulekeepor's notes on proposals 7418-7425. Indeed. I need to write a script to double-check messages to detect proposals hidden in the middle of messages which already spuriously match my search

Re: DIS: Committees proto-proto

2013-06-04 Thread omd
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: - Promotor distributes in the first 4 days of each week (currently a proposal submitted on a Monday could wait just under two weeks before distribution without the Promotor breaking a rule) I always considered

DIS: Soon-to-be slackers!

2013-06-08 Thread omd
In the interests of speeding up the game, I'm providing a gratuitous early warning for Proposals 7453-7470, which are in danger of failing quorum and having their voting periods doubled in two days. The following active players have not yet voted on all of them despite being eligible: ehird

DIS: Re: BUS: Inconstant vigilance

2013-06-09 Thread omd
of the PVN and Virtue.) Inconstant indeed. I once again intend, without objection, to ratify the above-quoted claim. Now that this is ratified, I note that CFJ 3211, omd violated Rule 2356 by taunting the police., was called several months after the last modification to that rule. ;p

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor]

2013-06-09 Thread omd
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: CoE: At the very least, Machiavelli was inactive at the time of distribution. Quorum was 5. Denied. Machiavelli was inactive, but Ienpw III registered at about the same time. Ah. In that case, quorum was still 5

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Assessor Election Resolution

2013-06-09 Thread omd
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: I intend, without objection, to award Murphy the Patent Title of Indispensable Do-Nothing PRESENT

DIS: Re: BUS: May as well try to settle this, I think

2013-06-11 Thread omd
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: it regulates the game by instructing the players to interpret the rules as if the statement it is LEGAL to shout 'CREAMPUFF' if and only if it is ILLEGAL to shout 'CREAMPUFF' were true. If the statement were true, then

DIS: Re: BUS: May as well try to settle this, I think

2013-06-11 Thread omd
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Tue, 11 Jun 2013, Tanner Swett wrote: 'CREAMPUFF' I disfavor everything contained in the above-cited message. Because of the word CREAMPUFF? It's an interesting and fundamental CFJ, in my opinion, despite its

DIS: Re: BUS: May as well try to settle this, I think

2013-06-11 Thread omd
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: by human decisions which face the need to escape absurd literalism I'm not quite sure this entirely applies to Agora. :)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: May as well try to settle this, I think

2013-06-11 Thread omd
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Fool fool1...@gmail.com wrote: Is this (and a bunch of other CFJs on the topic of paradoxes) all about rule 2358? Why not just change that? Although Rule 2358 mostly depends on the traditional interpretation of paradoxes as causing fundamental logical

DIS: Re: BUS: Stones

2013-06-12 Thread omd
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I play stones at (lat, lon): (3, -3), (2, -3), (1, -3). Where are you all getting stones from? Igora was adopted after the start of the week.

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