Re: DIS: Proto: Track it on the wiki

2017-06-29 Thread omd
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 6:34 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > I've been thinking about this, and I think my personal cutoff is, oddly > enough, the use of email (but not necessarily to the Agoran lists). I'd > be OK with this only if the external interface was used, or at least >

Re: DIS: Proto: Track it on the wiki

2017-06-27 Thread Alex Smith
On Sun, 2017-06-25 at 17:31 -0400, omd wrote: > Do you object to systems that require (or at least strongly encourage) > actions to be entered externally, but send automated messages to the > lists reflecting them?  Requiring players to manually send messages in > a parseable format is definitely

Re: DIS: Proto: Track it on the wiki

2017-06-27 Thread Alex Smith
On Sun, 2017-06-25 at 12:29 -0700, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > I concur with ais523's thoughts, but would appreciate if e could > describe the reasoning for his dislike of GitHub. Part of it (some particularly objectionable terms in a much older version of the Terms of Service) has

Re: DIS: Proto: Track it on the wiki

2017-06-25 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Because this has almost the same effect and makes allows all players to fully participate without additional accounts. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Jun 25, 2017, at 2:36 PM, omd wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 5:35 PM,

Re: DIS: Proto: Track it on the wiki

2017-06-25 Thread omd
On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > What about instituting a rule to strongly encourage all players to list in > their message the effects their actions would have on specific variables and > even provisional values

Re: DIS: Proto: Track it on the wiki

2017-06-25 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
As to officers’ tooling, this could also be handled as a strong encouragement to share your code with your successor. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Jun 25, 2017, at 2:31 PM, omd wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 1:33 PM,

Re: DIS: Proto: Track it on the wiki

2017-06-25 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
What about instituting a rule to strongly encourage all players to list in their message the effects their actions would have on specific variables and even provisional values for them. I don’t want to take this off list. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com

Re: DIS: Proto: Track it on the wiki

2017-06-25 Thread omd
On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > One of the huge strengths of Agora is that its entire history can be > deduced from the weekly/monthly office reports, making it easy to > determine facts about past gamestates; and all actions also go via the > lists,

Re: DIS: Proto: Track it on the wiki

2017-06-25 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I concur with ais523's thoughts, but would appreciate if e could describe the reasoning for his dislike of GitHub. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Sun, 2017-06-25 at 12:53 +, comex wrote: > > On Sun,

Re: DIS: Proto: Track it on the wiki

2017-06-25 Thread Alex Smith
On Sun, 2017-06-25 at 12:53 +, comex wrote: > On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 1:28 PM Alex Smith > wrote: > > Serious, strong objection to this. If I have to have a Github > > account to play, I'll just deregister. > > If your reason for avoiding GitHub is what I think it

Re: DIS: Proto: Track it on the wiki

2017-06-25 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
What do you think eir reason is? Regardless, I will also be voting against because of both ais523’s objection and my own feeling that we should try to contain the game. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Jun 25, 2017, at 5:53 AM, comex

Re: DIS: Proto: Track it on the wiki

2017-06-25 Thread comex
(...argh, I thought the Gmail mobile app would strip the copied and pasted formatting, but apparently not. Enjoy the huge text…)

Re: DIS: Proto: Track it on the wiki

2017-06-25 Thread comex
On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 1:28 PM Alex Smith wrote: > Serious, strong objection to this. If I have to have a Github account > to play, I'll just deregister. If your reason for avoiding GitHub is what I think it is, IMHO it’s misguided… ...but no worries, that’s just

Re: DIS: Proto: Track it on the wiki

2017-06-25 Thread comex
On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 10:09 PM Gaelan Steele wrote: > I like the idea of having separate repositories per report (like we have > now), which also allows recordkeepors to manage their tooling (under this > rule, I couldn't keep the rules in YAML, for example). I think we

Re: DIS: Proto: Track it on the wiki

2017-06-25 Thread Alex Smith
On Sat, 2017-06-24 at 16:44 -0400, omd wrote: > Proto: Track it on the wiki (AI=2) > > Create Power-1 Rule titled "Wiki": > >   The Wiki is located at https://agoranomic.org/wiki/. > >   For any state the rules define to be "tracked by all players on >   the Wiki": > >   - When

Re: DIS: Proto: Track it on the wiki

2017-06-24 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Jun 24, 2017, at 4:44 PM, omd wrote: > > Proto: Track it on the wiki (AI=2) Not directly feedback, but this finally got me off my duff. The three offices I handle are now on Github: * https://github.com/AgoraNomic/Referee *

Re: DIS: Proto: Track it on the wiki

2017-06-24 Thread Aris Merchant
I don't particularly like specifying a particular location, and would likely vote PRESENT. I do see the advantages, I just like keeping the rules medium agnostic. -Aris On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 7:09 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > I like the idea of having separate repositories per

Re: DIS: Proto: Track it on the wiki

2017-06-24 Thread Gaelan Steele
I like the idea of having separate repositories per report (like we have now), which also allows recordkeepors to manage their tooling (under this rule, I couldn't keep the rules in YAML, for example). I think we should keep anything on GitHub as unofficial, which allows record keepers to do

Re: DIS: Proto: Track it on the wiki

2017-06-24 Thread omd
On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 4:45 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > I don’t like the idea of tracking it in a markdown environment. What about > have a special repository for tracking such things. Meh, I think Markdown is fine - in fact,

DIS: Proto: Track it on the wiki

2017-06-24 Thread omd
Proto: Track it on the wiki (AI=2) Create Power-1 Rule titled "Wiki": The Wiki is located at https://agoranomic.org/wiki/. For any state the rules define to be "tracked by all players on the Wiki": - When any player performs an action via public message that