DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Weekly Report

2020-06-30 Thread Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion
I am pretty annoyed that nch did the exact same scam I was aiming for (I was co-conspiring with two other players for days to pull it off but it didn't get off the ground before nch's attempt at the exact same thing...). On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 8:05 AM omd via agora-business <

Re: DIS: [Notary] Informal Contract Awards

2020-06-30 Thread Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion
Aah! Thank you for the awards  Congrats to the other winners as well! On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 7:21 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/29/20 1:18 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > > > On 6/29/2020 10:13 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >

DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer is curious [Attn. Arbitor, CfJ call]

2020-06-30 Thread Becca Lee via agora-discussion
CFJs 1911 to 1914 are annotated on the FLR as holding "physical realities supersede the rules by default" On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 7:41 PM Cuddle Beam via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I've been wondering about this for a while and I figure it would make an >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer is curious [Attn. Arbitor, CfJ call]

2020-06-30 Thread Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion
Exactly. But you're not catching the problem here. Sure, 2+2 isn't 5. But if all Agorans are CONVINCED it is so and are NOT AWARE that it is false, then, what happens? A CfJ Judging "is 2+2=5?" or something, barring it being DIMISSed, would be TRUE. Right? That's the question. Agora doesn't run

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3856 Judged FALSE

2020-06-30 Thread Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion
>"the strong interest of the game" oh hi it's you again On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 8:11 AM Aris Merchant via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Judge's Arguments in CFJ 3856 > > omd's exploit is the most clever I have seen during my time as a player. > Rule 1742, "Contracts"

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8459-8472

2020-06-30 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/30/20 8:52 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/30/20 5:47 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business > wrote: >> AGAINST (I'd be supportive of this if it didn't get rid of Certifiable >> Patches) > > Is the 2+X support mechanism not a sufficient replacement? Why not? >

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3857 Judgement: This is a weird one.

2020-06-30 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/30/20 8:50 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > On 6/30/20 6:57 AM, Becca Lee via agora-business wrote: >> Whether or not the ballot satisfied the sixth condition for a valid >> ballot is impossible to decide. This is because the anonymous player >> was unsuccessful in retracting eir

DIS: [Proto, ATTN Referee] Competitive Finger Pointing

2020-06-30 Thread nch via agora-discussion
Here's a proper version of Competitive Finger Pointing. Title: Competitive Finger Pointing AI: 1.7 Author: nch Coauthors: Amend R2478, "Vigilante Justice" by adding after the list items:     Initiating a Finger Pointing found to be Shenanigans is the class     0+N crime of Shenaniganery,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8459-8472

2020-06-30 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/30/20 8:03 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/30/20 9:02 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 6/30/20 7:57 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion >> wrote: >>> On 6/30/20 8:52 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: On 6/30/20 5:47

DIS: Re: [Registrar, Treasuror] Re: BUS: @Notary @Treasuror, I do the scam anyway

2020-06-30 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/30/20 10:38 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business wrote: > I also exile R. Lee, causing all of eir cards and products to be > destroyed since they would be held by a non-player. > You need 7 days notice for that. -- Jason Cobb

DIS: Re: BUS: @Notary @Treasuror, I do the scam anyway

2020-06-30 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/30/20 9:26 AM, Becca Lee via agora-business wrote: > I COE the most recent proposal assessment: you missed a vote by G. in > https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-June/043813.html > > That message, therefore making the assessment invalid. So the scam I've

Re: DIS: Re: [Registrar, Treasuror] Re: BUS: @Notary @Treasuror, I do the scam anyway

2020-06-30 Thread Becca Lee via agora-discussion
Yeah, I'm considering it. I will give G. eir VP early if you guys ever start trying to get VP. But you would need 40 VP to contest G's 60 and considering the reset, there's no way you could get 16 cards. But anyway, we'll see, I'll ask what others think about the politeness of it. Anyway, we are

Re: DIS: Re: [Registrar, Treasuror] Re: BUS: @Notary @Treasuror, I do the scam anyway

2020-06-30 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/30/20 10:51 AM, Becca Lee via agora-discussion wrote: > Yeah, I'm considering it. I will give G. eir VP early if you guys ever > start trying to get VP. But you would need 40 VP to contest G's 60 and > considering the reset, there's no way you could get 16 cards. But anyway, > we'll see, I'll

Re: DIS: Re: [Registrar, Treasuror] Re: BUS: @Notary @Treasuror, I do the scam anyway

2020-06-30 Thread Becca Lee via agora-discussion
Yes you are right on the second, I created an additional 40 blots. but now i have 39 blots because of an expungement. Regarding fairness, I have 39 blots and only 59 BBGs so I will still end up with plenty of blots in the end. On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 12:41 AM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3857 Judgement: This is a weird one.

2020-06-30 Thread Becca Lee via agora-discussion
Cool, the fact that it's you doesn't matter to the CFJ itself (we judge CFJs at the time they are called). Your vote was not withdrawn and your second vote did not count. On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 11:01 PM Unspecified Behavior via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Tue,

DIS: Re: BUS: @Notary @Treasuror, I do the scam anyway

2020-06-30 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/30/20 10:26 AM, Becca Lee via agora-business wrote: > I COE the most recent proposal assessment: you missed a vote by G. in > https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-June/043813.html > > That message, therefore making the assessment invalid. So the scam

Re: DIS: Re: [Registrar, Treasuror] Re: BUS: @Notary @Treasuror, I do the scam anyway

2020-06-30 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/30/20 10:43 AM, Becca Lee via agora-discussion wrote: > Yes you are right on the second, I created an additional 40 blots. but now > i have 39 blots because of an expungement. Regarding fairness, I have 39 > blots and only 59 BBGs so I will still end up with plenty of blots in the > end.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Objections

2020-06-30 Thread Becca Lee via agora-discussion
In my email client, I beat you by 1 minute. On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 12:27 AM Jason Cobb via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/30/20 10:26 AM, Jason Cobb wrote: > > I object to all and any intents to exile nch. > > > > I withdraw these objections. > > > > I object to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: @Notary @Treasuror, I do the scam anyway

2020-06-30 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/30/20 10:37 AM, Becca Lee via agora-discussion wrote: > it's a scam, when were they meant to be fair? If you want to destroy the blots created in the scam, that's one thing, but to destroy the blots created by the Indictments is an unnecessary overreach and a violation, in my opinion, of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8459-8472

2020-06-30 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/30/20 7:57 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/30/20 8:52 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 6/30/20 5:47 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business >> wrote: >>> AGAINST (I'd be supportive of this if it didn't get rid of Certifiable >>>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8459-8472

2020-06-30 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/30/20 9:02 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/30/20 7:57 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion > wrote: >> On 6/30/20 8:52 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >>> On 6/30/20 5:47 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business >>> wrote: AGAINST (I'd be

Re: DIS: [Proto, ATTN Referee] Competitive Finger Pointing

2020-06-30 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/30/20 10:13 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > Here's a proper version of Competitive Finger Pointing. > > Title: Competitive Finger Pointing > AI: 1.7 > Author: nch > Coauthors: > > Amend R2478, "Vigilante Justice" by adding after the list items: > >     Initiating a Finger Pointing

DIS: Re: BUS: Notice of Honour

2020-06-30 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/30/20 8:51 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > This is a notice of honour. > > -1 Jason for attempting to resolve the fix proposal too early, opening a > scam opportunity > > +1 nch for not taking advantage of that opportunity > > -- > Jason Cobb > This is a notice of honour. +1 Jason

DIS: Re: [Registrar, Treasuror] Re: BUS: @Notary @Treasuror, I do the scam anyway

2020-06-30 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/30/20 10:39 AM, Becca Lee via agora-business wrote: > No, you can't do this. First of all, you never gave 7 days notice. That's true; good catch. Second > of all, if you read the message carefully, you will discover that I am > currently pure and have no blots (I expunged the 40 in the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Notice of Honour

2020-06-30 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/30/20 10:41 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/30/20 8:51 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: >> This is a notice of honour. >> >> -1 Jason for attempting to resolve the fix proposal too early, opening a >> scam opportunity >> >> +1 nch for not taking advantage of that

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8459-8472

2020-06-30 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/30/20 5:47 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business wrote: > AGAINST (I'd be supportive of this if it didn't get rid of Certifiable > Patches) Is the 2+X support mechanism not a sufficient replacement? Why not? -- nch Prime Minister, Webmastor, NAX Exchange Manager

Re: DIS: [Proto, ATTN Referee] Competitive Finger Pointing

2020-06-30 Thread Becca Lee via agora-discussion
reporters absolutely quaking in their boots rn On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 12:17 AM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/30/20 10:13 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > > Here's a proper version of Competitive Finger Pointing. > > > > Title: Competitive Finger

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: @Notary @Treasuror, I do the scam anyway

2020-06-30 Thread Becca Lee via agora-discussion
it's a scam, when were they meant to be fair? by resolved i meant the ordinary meaning, fully terminated, ended, etc (but breaching the pledge is a class 1000 crime so i suppose interpretation of resolved might be a matter for another indictment) On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 12:35 AM Publius Scribonius

Re: DIS: Re: [Contract amendment] Re: BUS: [Falsifian, Treasuror, Notary] Quickexchange use

2020-06-30 Thread Becca Lee via agora-discussion
The text is that there is currently no change to the text from what there was previously, as that provision contains a self-removing mechanism (we did both publicly consent to it in the end) On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 1:46 AM ATMunn via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: >

DIS: Re: [Contract amendment] Re: BUS: [Falsifian, Treasuror, Notary] Quickexchange use

2020-06-30 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
wait, I'm confused about this. was the contract amended, and what's its current text? On 6/29/2020 1:50 PM, James Cook via agora-business wrote: On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 17:47, James Cook wrote: On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 17:41, Becca Lee via agora-business wrote: Nice, I transfer 2 Pendants to

Re: DIS: [Proto, ATTN Referee] Competitive Finger Pointing

2020-06-30 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
should be a Justice card or a Blot-B-Gone, not a Blot-B-Gone card. On 6/30/2020 10:13 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:     The player who initiated the most Finger Pointings that resulted in     an Indictment or Cold Hand of Justice in the previous calendar week     CAN once grant

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8459-8472

2020-06-30 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
Informal CoE: The list shows Jason as being the author of Talismans, while the full text shows Aris as being the author. On 6/30/2020 2:54 AM, Aris Merchant via agora-official wrote: PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it, and

Re: DIS: Hidden Action Fixes

2020-06-30 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
aww man, I was going to try to bury an apathy intent On 6/30/2020 5:09 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: I'm working on a proposal to deal with hidden actions (such a G.'s burried vote). It'll also handle cases where the identity of the player sending a message is unclear. I'm done

DIS: Hidden Action Fixes

2020-06-30 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
I'm working on a proposal to deal with hidden actions (such a G.'s burried vote). It'll also handle cases where the identity of the player sending a message is unclear. I'm done drafting the core, but I need to handle some technical and confirming amendments; I should have a proto out in the next

Re: DIS: Hidden Action Fixes

2020-06-30 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 2:09 PM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > > I'm working on a proposal to deal with hidden actions (such a G.'s burried > vote). It'll also handle cases where the identity of the player sending a > message is unclear. I'm done drafting the core, but I need to

DIS: Re: [attn: Treasuror] card and exchange

2020-06-30 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
erk I think I need to say for the second part "this will probably fail (unless there's a retroactive currency reset)" Wasn't trying to mislead anyone... On 6/30/2020 4:01 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > I earn a Legislative card for P8446. > > I pay a set of 4 Legislative Cards to earn 10

DIS: Thesis Reprocessing Request [attn. Herald]

2020-06-30 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
H. Herald and people of Agora, On January 28, I submitted my thesis, "The Very Worst Thing That Could Possibly Happen" [1]. I reminded the Herald to process the thesis by means of a petition on February 23 [2]. The Herald initiated peer review on March 16 [3]. During peer review, the reviewers

DIS: Re: BUS: [election] Roll out...

2020-06-30 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/30/20 10:10 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > As the holder of office of Coopor, I initiate an election for the office. This is INEFFECTIVE, as P8442 already initiated one. -- Jason Cobb

Re: DIS: Thesis Reprocessing Request [attn. Herald]

2020-06-30 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 8:53 PM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > > In light of the foregoing circumstances and the legislative changes > that have transpired since my thesis was first peer-reviewed, I humbly > request the Herald to take whatever steps are appropriate in the > degree