Re: DIS: Proto-proposal: Some economic suggestions

2017-05-20 Thread Gaelan Steele
I feel like we currently have two parallel currency systems, shinies and income. I think it is probably a good idea to unify the two at some point. Gaelan > On May 20, 2017, at 12:20 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > I might want to tie this to either a decrease in the income

Re: DIS: Proto-proposal: Some economic suggestions

2017-05-20 Thread Owen Jacobson
I need to write a more comprehensive reply to this, but as it’s been three days and I still haven’t read all of the followups, I’m going to throw this out first while it’s still semi-fresh: On May 17, 2017, at 11:17 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > > Create a new rule, "Tax

Re: DIS: Proto-proposal: Some economic suggestions

2017-05-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 17 May 2017, Gaelan Steele wrote: > Wait. With the dice server, what prevents rolling until you get the result > you want, and publishing that? (With Bitcoin, if you > publish the block number you wish to use before the block is mined, there is > no way to “re-try”) You send a message

Re: DIS: Proto-proposal: Some economic suggestions

2017-05-17 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2017-05-17 at 21:30 -0700, Gaelan Steele wrote: > Wait. With the dice server, what prevents rolling until you get the > result you want, and publishing that? (With Bitcoin, if you publish > the block number you wish to use before the block is mined, there is > no way to “re-try”) In the

Re: DIS: Proto-proposal: Some economic suggestions

2017-05-17 Thread Aris Merchant
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 9:30 PM Gaelan Steele wrote: > Wait. With the dice server, what prevents rolling until you get the result > you want, and publishing that? (With Bitcoin, if you publish the block > number you wish to use before the block is mined, there is no way to >

Re: DIS: Proto-proposal: Some economic suggestions

2017-05-17 Thread Gaelan Steele
Wait. With the dice server, what prevents rolling until you get the result you want, and publishing that? (With Bitcoin, if you publish the block number you wish to use before the block is mined, there is no way to “re-try”) > On May 17, 2017, at 8:31 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote:

Re: DIS: Proto-proposal: Some economic suggestions

2017-05-17 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2017-05-17 at 22:28 -0500, Nic Evans wrote: > As a related idea, I think it'd be nice to redefine trust tokens and > ribbons as tradeable (within the Asset framework or otherwise). If > shinies are valuable because you can win with them, then people will > be willing to trade other

Re: DIS: Proto-proposal: Some economic suggestions

2017-05-17 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On May 17, 2017, at 11:26 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > > The only problem I see is that the secretary is free to cheat on the > randomness with no accountability. It’s possible to generate verifiable > randomness (hash of the Bitcoin block mined immediately after the

Re: DIS: Proto-proposal: Some economic suggestions

2017-05-17 Thread Gaelan Steele
The only problem I see is that the secretary is free to cheat on the randomness with no accountability. It’s possible to generate verifiable randomness (hash of the Bitcoin block mined immediately after the timestamp of this message); we might want to incorporate that. I see four ways to do

Re: DIS: Proto-proposal: Some economic suggestions

2017-05-17 Thread Nic Evans
On 05/17/17 22:17, Alex Smith wrote: > One widely noticed problem with our current Shiny system is that they > tend to accumulate in the hands of players, because there's not much > reason to spend them. Finding more things to spend them on is one fix > that we should definitely be looking at