Re: DIS: Re: BUS: pending judicial actions
On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 3:51 PM Aris Merchant wrote: > In either case, I'm officializing them in my proposal. Still, you're > right that this is interesting, and I could see the precedent being > potentially relevant in the future. I don't want to add to your > overload right after you've taken on Arbitor though. Would you object > to a CFJ? Do you want to finally re-introduce a definition of ID numbers in general? Something like: "When an entity is required to assign an ID number, e SHALL do so by selecting the smallest integer that has not been used as a ID number for a previous entity of that type"? No worries on the CFJ in terms of Arbitor work, though I'd be mildly concerned that, in the absence of ID number definition, a judge would go wild and find that ID numbers haven't existed for the last several years or something :)
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: pending judicial actions
On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 3:43 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 3:17 PM Aris Merchant > wrote: > > Note that (probably) only the Referee can assign an ID number to this > > case. Under Rule 2246, "Submitting a CFJ to the Referee", "the Referee > > receives all obligations and powers for the specific case that the > > Arbitor would otherwise receive due to being Arbitor." I see no reason > > why that wouldn't include ID number assignment. I'd suggest that the > > best course of action is probably for the Arbitor to reserve a number > > and for the Referee to assign it. I believe the Referee is probably > > also required to write a mini-court gazette for the case, although > > that's arguable. In any case, I consider this a bug and a fix proposal > > is incoming. > > Well, ID Numbers for CFJs are 100% unofficial now, the rules don't > explicitly state that CFJs have ID numbers or how they're assigned, > though there's an ancillary mention of them in R2582. It might be an > interesting case to know if "all obligations and powers" include the > strongly historical but currently-unofficial customs of naming > rights? In either case, I'm officializing them in my proposal. Still, you're right that this is interesting, and I could see the precedent being potentially relevant in the future. I don't want to add to your overload right after you've taken on Arbitor though. Would you object to a CFJ? -Aris
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: pending judicial actions
You... may actually be right about that. I would have sworn that it was somewhere that the Arbitor assigned numbers, but I can't seem to find that provision. That's odd, since that's not the case for proposals or rules. -Aris On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 3:32 PM Rebecca wrote: > > ID numbers are entirely informal so anyone can assign them if they like. > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 8:31 AM Rebecca wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 8:16 AM Aris Merchant < > > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 12:53 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > >> > > >> > Please review if you have an interest in a pending case - did I miss > >> anything? > >> > > >> > Cases listed open in the Court Gazette May 27 > >> > - CFJ 3726, later judged by Falsifian, no action needed > >> > - CFJ 3727, later judged by Falsifian, no action needed > >> > - CFJ 3728, later judged by Trigon, no action needed > >> > > >> > Subsequent Events (Grouped by case, cases sorted by date of Call) > >> > > >> > May 23, 7:10 PM > >> > - Falsifian CFJs on "the Lost and Found department owns..." > >> > - Arbitor assigns it to D. Margaux as 3729 > >> > - D. Margaux judges it (no further action needed) > >> > > >> > May 28, 2019 at 9:49:13 AM EDT > >> > - D. Margaux files a CFJ "The ADoP did not..." with the Referee. > >> > - Referee assigns this CFJ to Trigon as an "unnumbered" CFJ. > >> > - Trigon judges this CFJ. > >> > - ACTION NEEDED: ID NUMBER ASSIGNMENT > >> > > >> > >> Note that (probably) only the Referee can assign an ID number to this > >> case. Under Rule 2246, "Submitting a CFJ to the Referee", "the Referee > >> receives all obligations and powers for the specific case that the > >> Arbitor would otherwise receive due to being Arbitor." I see no reason > >> why that wouldn't include ID number assignment. I'd suggest that the > >> best course of action is probably for the Arbitor to reserve a number > >> and for the Referee to assign it. I believe the Referee is probably > >> also required to write a mini-court gazette for the case, although > >> that's arguable. In any case, I consider this a bug and a fix proposal > >> is incoming. > >> > >> > >> -Aris > >> > > > > > > -- > > From V.J. Rada > > > > > -- > From V.J. Rada
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: pending judicial actions
ID numbers are entirely informal so anyone can assign them if they like. On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 8:31 AM Rebecca wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 8:16 AM Aris Merchant < > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 12:53 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: >> > >> > Please review if you have an interest in a pending case - did I miss >> anything? >> > >> > Cases listed open in the Court Gazette May 27 >> > - CFJ 3726, later judged by Falsifian, no action needed >> > - CFJ 3727, later judged by Falsifian, no action needed >> > - CFJ 3728, later judged by Trigon, no action needed >> > >> > Subsequent Events (Grouped by case, cases sorted by date of Call) >> > >> > May 23, 7:10 PM >> > - Falsifian CFJs on "the Lost and Found department owns..." >> > - Arbitor assigns it to D. Margaux as 3729 >> > - D. Margaux judges it (no further action needed) >> > >> > May 28, 2019 at 9:49:13 AM EDT >> > - D. Margaux files a CFJ "The ADoP did not..." with the Referee. >> > - Referee assigns this CFJ to Trigon as an "unnumbered" CFJ. >> > - Trigon judges this CFJ. >> > - ACTION NEEDED: ID NUMBER ASSIGNMENT >> > >> >> Note that (probably) only the Referee can assign an ID number to this >> case. Under Rule 2246, "Submitting a CFJ to the Referee", "the Referee >> receives all obligations and powers for the specific case that the >> Arbitor would otherwise receive due to being Arbitor." I see no reason >> why that wouldn't include ID number assignment. I'd suggest that the >> best course of action is probably for the Arbitor to reserve a number >> and for the Referee to assign it. I believe the Referee is probably >> also required to write a mini-court gazette for the case, although >> that's arguable. In any case, I consider this a bug and a fix proposal >> is incoming. >> >> >> -Aris >> > > > -- > From V.J. Rada > -- >From V.J. Rada
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: pending judicial actions
On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 8:16 AM Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 12:53 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > Please review if you have an interest in a pending case - did I miss > anything? > > > > Cases listed open in the Court Gazette May 27 > > - CFJ 3726, later judged by Falsifian, no action needed > > - CFJ 3727, later judged by Falsifian, no action needed > > - CFJ 3728, later judged by Trigon, no action needed > > > > Subsequent Events (Grouped by case, cases sorted by date of Call) > > > > May 23, 7:10 PM > > - Falsifian CFJs on "the Lost and Found department owns..." > > - Arbitor assigns it to D. Margaux as 3729 > > - D. Margaux judges it (no further action needed) > > > > May 28, 2019 at 9:49:13 AM EDT > > - D. Margaux files a CFJ "The ADoP did not..." with the Referee. > > - Referee assigns this CFJ to Trigon as an "unnumbered" CFJ. > > - Trigon judges this CFJ. > > - ACTION NEEDED: ID NUMBER ASSIGNMENT > > > > Note that (probably) only the Referee can assign an ID number to this > case. Under Rule 2246, "Submitting a CFJ to the Referee", "the Referee > receives all obligations and powers for the specific case that the > Arbitor would otherwise receive due to being Arbitor." I see no reason > why that wouldn't include ID number assignment. I'd suggest that the > best course of action is probably for the Arbitor to reserve a number > and for the Referee to assign it. I believe the Referee is probably > also required to write a mini-court gazette for the case, although > that's arguable. In any case, I consider this a bug and a fix proposal > is incoming. > > > -Aris > -- >From V.J. Rada
