Re: DIS: oh dear
You forgot: 0. Try to break the cycle for the next minigame by writing endless initial drafts that make people kinda tired of it before it even starts, but doesn't help much because you ultimately need to playtest to get it working. I'm a big proponent of "Tournament with speeded up play = testing it in development, not production" (but you can still offer a win that way as an award to playtesters). Especially as a tournament can be written to give the contestmaster quick authority to adjudicate and correct badly- written stuff. On 1/19/2019 12:54 AM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: On Fri, 18 Jan 2019, Reuben Staley wrote: This is exactly what I said nearly a year ago when PAoaM passed. Minigames rarely work the way they are supposed to on their first revision. * * THE AGORAN MINIGAME CYCLE * * 1. Enact a minigame system, initially completely broken. 2. Use a few weeks to correct the most ruinous bugs. 3. With the system now barely useable, some people find new bugs and use them to get an insurmountable advantage. 4. Spend several months trying to weed out the most annoying bugs. 5. Just as the system looks like it's starting to work as intended, all the players except for those from (3) vote to repeal it because it's too much work and hasn't been fun to play. Greetings, Ørjan.
Re: DIS: oh dear
On Fri, 18 Jan 2019, Reuben Staley wrote: This is exactly what I said nearly a year ago when PAoaM passed. Minigames rarely work the way they are supposed to on their first revision. * * THE AGORAN MINIGAME CYCLE * * 1. Enact a minigame system, initially completely broken. 2. Use a few weeks to correct the most ruinous bugs. 3. With the system now barely useable, some people find new bugs and use them to get an insurmountable advantage. 4. Spend several months trying to weed out the most annoying bugs. 5. Just as the system looks like it's starting to work as intended, all the players except for those from (3) vote to repeal it because it's too much work and hasn't been fun to play. Greetings, Ørjan.
Re: DIS: oh dear
This is exactly what I said nearly a year ago when PAoaM passed. Minigames rarely work the way they are supposed to on their first revision. On Thu, Jan 17, 2019, 18:18 Timon Walshe-Grey Good luck figuring how spaaace works, it appears to be completely broken > in multiple different ways judging by the messages I've skimmed... :P > > -twg >
Re: DIS: oh dear
On 1/17/2019 5:18 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > Good luck figuring how spaaace works, it appears to be completely broken > in multiple different ways judging by the messages I've skimmed... :P No need to exaggerate here - if two non-zombies have a space battle, and honestly and clearly (without private languages or whatnot) send legal battle moves privately to the resolver, it seems to work fine (so far), though we haven't gone through a complete battle yet. You decided to jump straight to some edge cases (zombies, weird communication methods) - there's always edge cases that are broken in the first set of rules for something.
Re: DIS: oh dear
On Friday, January 18, 2019 1:06 AM, ATMunn wrote: > Things have been a bit busy for me irl recently, which is why I > haven't been Agora-ing as much recently. (Hijacking thread to mention that this is the case for me as well - I know there are multiple threads I haven't replied to yet, I just haven't found time to do so yet, sorry - remember this is finals season for me. Priorities, I know.) On Friday, January 18, 2019 1:06 AM, ATMunn wrote: > I also hope to post Agora > Monthly soon, with a guide to the new systems. Good luck figuring how spaaace works, it appears to be completely broken in multiple different ways judging by the messages I've skimmed... :P -twg
