[Ai] Need Contact details of Shri Atul Sahai

[Manoj Gupta via Ai]

Friends, In reply to my previous yesterday's mail, nobody has so
far provided me the details of any training institute providing
computer training to the blind in Jamshedpur, Jharkhand, so, I again
humbly request you all to please either provide me the requested
information or contact details of Shri Atul Sahai as Mr. Srinivas has
suggested that he may be of some help in this regard. Best,
Manoj
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Re: [Ai] Bluetooth headset for iPhone

[Arjun Malhotra via Ai]

You can have a look at Apple's Airpod. They are insanely priced but
have similar functionality.

On 9/7/17, Pranay Gadodia via Ai  wrote:
> Hi all,
> Need recommendations for a Bluetooth headset for iPhone S e.
> - While it should have good audio quality as well as good transmission for
> the other person to hear, not sure if the headset can also be used to listen
> to music/audio content
> - Are there Bluetooth headsets available for both the ears but detached from
> each other, in other words which is not a headphone/neckphone? The idea is
> to use one ear piece for conversations, and use both the ear pieces when
> listening to music/audio content.
>
> Any experiential recommendations would really help.
>
> Thanks,
> Pranay.
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Re: [Ai] [DKIM Failure] Re: Bluetooth headset for iPhone

[Kotian, H P via Ai]

Hi
There is 1 short coming if it bothers someone, the audio can be heard by 
persons in close proximity unlike conventional headphone.
I would also second it if one is forced to use headphone with heavy use, then 
this is a better option.
Harish Kotian.


-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
Prashant Ranjan Verma via Ai
Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 9:23 PM
To: 'Share, empower ' 
Cc: Prashant Ranjan Verma 
Subject: [DKIM Failure] Re: [Ai] Bluetooth headset for iPhone

In general the best one for people who wear headphone for long periods is the 
Aftershokz.
It is bone conduction technology. You can search and order it from Amazon.
It is expensive but worth the price.


-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
Pranay Gadodia via Ai
Sent: 07 September 2017 20:56
To: 'Share, empower ' 
Cc: Pranay Gadodia 
Subject: [Ai] Bluetooth headset for iPhone

Hi all,
Need recommendations for a Bluetooth headset for iPhone S e.
- While it should have good audio quality as well as good transmission for the 
other person to hear, not sure if the headset can also be used to listen to 
music/audio content
- Are there Bluetooth headsets available for both the ears but detached from 
each other, in other words which is not a headphone/neckphone? The idea is to 
use one ear piece for conversations, and use both the ear pieces when listening 
to music/audio content.

Any experiential recommendations would really help.

Thanks,
Pranay.

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Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

[George Abraham via Ai]

Running an institution is a huge responsibility. The management has to be
constantly alert and alive to possible slips. 

 

On the other hand freedom of speech too is a huge responsibility. While
things have to be spoken out, there is need for a degree of maturity and
sensitivity. 

 

 

 

 

From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
Dinesh Kaushal via Ai
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 7:56 AM
To: Share, empower 
Cc: Dinesh Kaushal
Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

 

I think some of us have miss understood the statement from Mr. Prashant.

 

The point was only to restrict the discussion so that identity of the
victims is not revealed.

 

I quote below:

 



The incident reported in the newspapers and by Radio Udaan is under the
POCSO act where people are forbidden to reveal anything which  could lead to
the identity of the victims. 



 

The statement does not say stop or bar the discussion.

 

I don't think anybody would object to informed discussion about possible
ways to fix the systems so that similar incidences do not happen. Besides,
it is also important that we do not spread information without proof. 

 

 

From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of r
k sarin via Ai
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 7:29 PM
To: Share, empower  
Cc: r k sarin 
Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

 

We have come to know some reliable sources that the students are disallowing
to contact media.

- Original Message - 

From: Kanchan Pamnani via Ai   

To: 'Share, empower   ' 

Cc: Kanchan Pamnani   

Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 6:52 PM

Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

 

Sarinji 

I  do not think the discussion should be closed. Even if we close it on
accessindia the press will still carry it and Avinash and others will copy
it for us. 

I however think that the reporting to the police has been a good step. 

I also think that my advice to Prashant that  he must track the matter is
sound advice.NAB Delhi is going to be harassed by many and we in the sector
must atleast criticise only after knowing facts.

Now the next set of problems who will you protect the kids from and to what
extent?

Avinash has listed out a few recent incidents.There are many more.  

Who do you trust- Trustees, management,staff, family members,  volunteers,
politicians,police,  seniors  from the same sex or from the opposite sex.
Everyone can be suspect and we have to guard against everyone. These crimes
donot get committed completely by one person. Therefore I had mentioned an
insider accomplice.   Management cannot be blamed unless it is directly
involved. If management has taken precaution as much as a prudent man would
have then we cannot blame management.  

In many cases the parties have hushed up matters -this is detrimental to
everyone.

But blaming anyone before investigation is over is wrong. 

Kanchan 

 

From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of r
k sarin via Ai
Sent: 07 September 2017 14:53
To: Share, empower 
Cc: r k sarin
Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

 

Kanchan ji, do you think that this superfluous approach will help NAB and
its institutions in a longer run. Why not to talk about the dilemma of the
NGOs--services vs. management of funds. purely person outlook.

 

R.K. Sarin

- Original Message - 

From: Kanchan Pamnani via Ai   

To: 'Share, empower   ' 

Cc: Kanchan Pamnani   

Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 6:14 PM

Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

 

Prashant, 

Most NGOs hide such incidents therefore we are proud of you for taking the
right steps.  

Maybe other NGOs will learn and our faith in the system will be revived. 

 

Incidents like this happen unfortunately. You can tighten your security etc
but this can happen again. 

Much harassment will be doled out to the alleged accused but the same
harassment will be doled out in greater measure to your organisation and its
staff and members first. Unfortunately this is how the legal system works in
India.

Please keep a track of the matter because if you don't the matter will slip
under the carpet. This  will take some time to end. 

You will need to track the police.

Many in this group have a connection direct or indirect with NAB Delhi and
would like to keep a track of the  newspaper reports etc. 

Yes no names must or should be revealed. 

 

We are with you please go the whole hog even if there is someone from inside
who is going to be implicated as an accomplice.

Kanchan   

Re: [Ai] Official state me not of Radio pertaining to the discussion on latest incident in Nab Delhi

[syed imran via Ai]

No organisation or individual has any right to threaten or commit
violence even if something disagreeable was spoken against them. We
are a free country and each one of us have a right to raise voices
against exploitation. So please do not stifle our voices.


On 9/7/17, arpitg56--- via Ai  wrote:
>
>
> Sent via micromaxOn Sep 7, 2017 3:57 PM, Amit Bhatt via Ai
>  wrote:
>>
>> Dear Danish and Radio Udaan,
>>
>> Why don't you expose the person and Organization who has threaten you over
>>
>> the phone for conducting the show on Radio.
>> This is a serious matter and needs more focus as threatening over the
>> phone
>> is itself a crime.
>>
>> I am surprised indirectly some people are trying to make other bloggers of
>>
>> this list afraid by giving legal worning and refraining the discussion as
>> a
>> whole.
>>
>> Radio Udaan has also revealed many positive and good things about various
>> NGO's in previously broadcasted shows, why those organizations have not
>> raised any question then and why Radio Udaan was not rewarded for that
>> work
>> if today we are talking about the legal actions to be taken against a
>> media
>> mode like Radio udaan.
>>
>> Every matter for every indivisual or group is sensitive and couple of
>> weeks
>> back a large number of the subscriber of this list have discussed an issue
>>
>> related to rape by ablind accused, why this discussion was not interupted?
>>
>> Was that matter not sensitive for the said accused?
>> How we can be selective about what sensitive matter is to be discussed or
>> what not.
>>
>> Let's try to resolve every issue by accepting the pits and falls and do
>> not
>> try to divert from the main cause of concern
>>
>> And please also do not try to stop the voices in the name of legal
>> worning.
>> The doors of law are open to everyone and lawyers are available to every
>> citizen of India.
>>
>> this entire issue was already brought under public domain by various media
>>
>> channels.
>>
>> It would have been nice if one could simply say that we are working
>> towards
>> this matter and we would require the support from all of you but
>> unfortunately some members are being threaten or worned. This is not a
>> right
>> message.
>>
>> This would be my final message unless we receive any unsolicited or
>> threatening response.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Amit Bhatt
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Radio Udaan via Ai" 
>> To: "ai" 
>> Cc: "Radio Udaan" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 6:29 PM
>> Subject: [Ai] Official statement of Radioudaan pertaining to the
>> discussion
>> on latest incident in Nab Delhi
>>
>> > Official statement of Radioudaan pertaining to the discussion on
>> > latest incident in Nab Delhi
>> > Dear all,
>> > Greetings from Radio Udaan
>> > We, radioudaan, a disability community radio work only and only for
>> > community and talk about improving the conditions of brothers and
>> > sisters in the community. Recently we had conducted a discussion on
>> > the molestation case which took place in NAB, Delhi. Since there are
>> > so many rumors which r floating around and in this regard we have come
>> > up with our official statement to clear the air. We have got many
>> > feedback with respect to the discussion we had last evening and many r
>> > very happy to see us raise this topic as best as we could. On the
>> > other hand also we got many complaints from many organizations who r
>> > very disturbed with our reporting. Also a few individuals also
>> > complained on the coverage.
>> > Radio Udaan is a very responsible station and we take full
>> > responsibility on our coverage. We quote Mr. Prashant Ranjan Verma who
>> > has written the following statement on a social platform.,
>> > (The incident reported in the newspapers and by Radio Udaan is under
>> > the POCSO act where people are forbidden to reveal anything which
>> > could lead to the
>> > Identity of the victims.
>> > The way people discuss things on the AI list, I am afraid it could
>> > invite legal action by the police.
>> > So, please do not allow this to go through. I am of course available
>> > to answer questions on phone or personal email.
>> > Yesterday Radio Udaan has done a very disturbing show on this already
>> > and they got lot of complains already.
>> > Thanks,
>> > Prashant Verma)
>> >
>> > We would also like to clarify that we take full responsibility and are
>> > ready to face any legal action with regards to our show. As far as the
>> > statement of Mr. Verma that Radio Udaan has done a very disturbing
>> > show and we have got a lot of complaints for that we would like to
>> > clarify that we have got just one complaint which was more of a
>> > threatening call rather than being a complaint.
>> > In India we have right to speak so we cannot stop anyone from
>> > presenting 

Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

[B. R. Nautial via Ai]

Of course! This incident is quite unfortunate & should be condemned  by 
everyone. Management should have rearn a lesson  by this bad incident and 
should be taken appropriate stepps to avoid these incident in future because in 
my openion, this incident could take place only because of security lepses on 
their end. but Fully agree with Manocha ji. Noone should have permited to give 
any statement in front of media at all. If someone do like this without 
prepermission of management,appropriate action should have taken against 
him/her.
As I already mentioned in my previous mail, its not good for the image of the 
institution as well. The case has already been handed over to the police, so 
let them do their investigation and wait for the result.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dipendra Manocha via Ai 
  To: 'Share, empower ' 
  Cc: Dipendra Manocha 
  Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 8:22 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident


  Do you really feel that children should be facing  mainstream media in such 
cases?

   

  The media itself is more sensitive than what is been said here. They 
themselves know that they are not supposed to be speaking to minors and putting 
them through  any such humiliations.

   

  Please stop spreading rumors based on so called reliable sources or baseless 
allegations being leveled by  an individuals on any unverifiable public forums. 

   

  Knowingly or unknowingly, such unfounded loose talk may help the offenders 
and weaken our fight against them.

   

  Be rest assured that  as result of investigations, if anyone is found guilty, 
will have the face the consequences.

   

  Thanks

  Dipendra

   

   

  From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of r k 
sarin via Ai
  Sent: 07 September 2017 19:29
  To: Share, empower  
  Cc: r k sarin 
  Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

   

  We have come to know some reliable sources that the students are disallowing 
to contact media.

- Original Message - 

From: Kanchan Pamnani via Ai 

To: 'Share, empower ' 

Cc: Kanchan Pamnani 

Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 6:52 PM

Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

 

Sarinji 

I  do not think the discussion should be closed. Even if we close it on 
accessindia the press will still carry it and Avinash and others will copy it 
for us. 

I however think that the reporting to the police has been a good step. 

I also think that my advice to Prashant that  he must track the matter is 
sound advice.NAB Delhi is going to be harassed by many and we in the sector 
must atleast criticise only after knowing facts.

Now the next set of problems who will you protect the kids from and to what 
extent?

Avinash has listed out a few recent incidents.There are many more.  

Who do you trust- Trustees, management,staff, family members,  volunteers, 
politicians,police,  seniors  from the same sex or from the opposite sex. 
Everyone can be suspect and we have to guard against everyone. These crimes 
donot get committed completely by one person. Therefore I had mentioned an 
insider accomplice.   Management cannot be blamed unless it is directly 
involved. If management has taken precaution as much as a prudent man would 
have then we cannot blame management.  

In many cases the parties have hushed up matters -this is detrimental to 
everyone.

But blaming anyone before investigation is over is wrong. 

Kanchan 

 

From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of r 
k sarin via Ai
Sent: 07 September 2017 14:53
To: Share, empower 
Cc: r k sarin
Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

 

Kanchan ji, do you think that this superfluous approach will help NAB and 
its institutions in a longer run. Why not to talk about the dilemma of the 
NGOs--services vs. management of funds. purely person outlook.

 

R.K. Sarin

  - Original Message - 

  From: Kanchan Pamnani via Ai 

  To: 'Share, empower ' 

  Cc: Kanchan Pamnani 

  Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 6:14 PM

  Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

   

  Prashant, 

  Most NGOs hide such incidents therefore we are proud of you for taking 
the right steps.  

  Maybe other NGOs will learn and our faith in the system will be revived. 

   

  Incidents like this happen unfortunately. You can tighten your security 
etc but this can happen again. 

  Much harassment will be doled out to the alleged accused but the same 
harassment will be doled out in greater measure to your organisation and its 
staff and members first. Unfortunately this is how the legal system works in 
India.

  Please keep a 

Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

[Dinesh Kaushal via Ai]

I think some of us have miss understood the statement from Mr. Prashant.

The point was only to restrict the discussion so that identity of the victims 
is not revealed.

I quote below:


The incident reported in the newspapers and by Radio Udaan is under the POCSO 
act where people are forbidden to reveal anything which  could lead to the 
identity of the victims.


The statement does not say stop or bar the discussion.

I don't think anybody would object to informed discussion about possible ways 
to fix the systems so that similar incidences do not happen. Besides, it is 
also important that we do not spread information without proof.


From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of r k 
sarin via Ai
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 7:29 PM
To: Share, empower  
Cc: r k sarin 
Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

We have come to know some reliable sources that the students are disallowing to 
contact media.
- Original Message -
From: Kanchan Pamnani via Ai
To: 'Share, empower '
Cc: Kanchan Pamnani
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

Sarinji
I  do not think the discussion should be closed. Even if we close it on 
accessindia the press will still carry it and Avinash and others will copy it 
for us.
I however think that the reporting to the police has been a good step.
I also think that my advice to Prashant that  he must track the matter is sound 
advice.NAB Delhi is going to be harassed by many and we in the sector must 
atleast criticise only after knowing facts.
Now the next set of problems who will you protect the kids from and to what 
extent?
Avinash has listed out a few recent incidents.There are many more.
Who do you trust- Trustees, management,staff, family members,  volunteers, 
politicians,police,  seniors  from the same sex or from the opposite sex. 
Everyone can be suspect and we have to guard against everyone. These crimes 
donot get committed completely by one person. Therefore I had mentioned an 
insider accomplice.   Management cannot be blamed unless it is directly 
involved. If management has taken precaution as much as a prudent man would 
have then we cannot blame management.
In many cases the parties have hushed up matters -this is detrimental to 
everyone.
But blaming anyone before investigation is over is wrong.
Kanchan

From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of r k 
sarin via Ai
Sent: 07 September 2017 14:53
To: Share, empower 
Cc: r k sarin
Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

Kanchan ji, do you think that this superfluous approach will help NAB and its 
institutions in a longer run. Why not to talk about the dilemma of the 
NGOs--services vs. management of funds. purely person outlook.

R.K. Sarin
- Original Message -
From: Kanchan Pamnani via Ai
To: 'Share, empower '
Cc: Kanchan Pamnani
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

Prashant,
Most NGOs hide such incidents therefore we are proud of you for taking the 
right steps.
Maybe other NGOs will learn and our faith in the system will be revived.

Incidents like this happen unfortunately. You can tighten your security etc but 
this can happen again.
Much harassment will be doled out to the alleged accused but the same 
harassment will be doled out in greater measure to your organisation and its 
staff and members first. Unfortunately this is how the legal system works in 
India.
Please keep a track of the matter because if you don't the matter will slip 
under the carpet. This  will take some time to end.
You will need to track the police.
Many in this group have a connection direct or indirect with NAB Delhi and 
would like to keep a track of the  newspaper reports etc.
Yes no names must or should be revealed.

We are with you please go the whole hog even if there is someone from inside 
who is going to be implicated as an accomplice.
Kanchan

From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
Prashant Ranjan Verma via Ai
Sent: 06 September 2017 09:54
To: 'Harish Kotian via Ai'
Cc: Prashant Ranjan Verma
Subject: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

Dear Harish,
The incident reported in the newspapers and by Radio Udaan is under the POCSO 
act where peple are forbidden to reveal anything which  could lead to the 
identity of the victims.
The way peple discuss things on the AI list, I am afraid it could invite legal 
action  by the police.
So, please do not allow this to go through. I am ofcourse availableto 
answer 

Re: [Ai] A pen for text reading

[bharat mali via Ai]

hi all,

i haven't listen about any pen but before some time i have read a news
of a device made in India. its name is divya nayan and it developed by
csir. i tried to know about its working and features but only got its
specifications on internet. i haven't gotten any human support for the
device. also i tried to search some videos or material related to this
device on youtube but nothing is their.

please try to explore about this device and request you to please tell
me personally if any one haves any info / working experience related
to this device.

thanks and regards,

bharat mali
contact: +91-99 82 300926

On 9/7/17, Akash Gupta via Ai  wrote:
> hi amer ji
> In alwar I read this article on last page.
> Date is 29-8-2017
>
> On 06/09/2017, Amar Jain via Ai  wrote:
>> Hi Mohit,
>>
>> Which edition? We might be speak to editors in Rajasthan.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Amar Jain
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 06-Sep-2017, at 7:25 PM, Rashmi Taneja via Ai
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all
>>> I, too, wish to know how and from where to get any such scanner if
>>> available, what is it's cost, and how can we use a smart phone to read
>>> books. Moreover, is it possible to read any kind of printed book with
>>> either the scanner or phone, or the textbook should be of some
>>> particular type? For example, can an ordinary printed novel be read by
>>> the scanner or phone?
>>>
 On 9/6/17, MAMTA tambe  via Ai 
 wrote:
 I too am looking for such device,

 Is there such pen or any hand held device available.

 What is its cost or where is it available?

 Any info is appreciated.

 Thanks.

 -Original Message-
 From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf
 Of
 Satguru Rathi via Ai
 Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 12:14 PM
 To: ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in
 Cc: Satguru Rathi
 Subject: Re: [Ai] A pen for text reading

 Hi,


 I too, am looking for such stand to use OCR on my phone effectively.
 Any
 info about such products is appreciated.


 With best regards,
 Satguru
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> On 9/5/2017 9:10 AM, Akash Gupta via Ai wrote:
> how to get stand for smart phone.
>
> On 02/09/2017, Mohit Gupta via Ai 
 wrote:
>> Dear friends,
>> I have read in danik bhasker on 29th august that:
>> In the book fair in pragati madan in new delhi, there is a stall of
>> foreign  company which have a pen. This pen reads books for visually
>> impaired and its cost is around 2.
>> In the newspaper company  anme and device name haven't mentioned. May
>> anyone know about it?
>>
>> --
>> Thanks and Regards,
>> Mohit Gupta.
>> Rajasthan.
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Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

[SC Vashishth via Ai]

Thanks Dipendra ji for butting in. How misinformed we are! Minors are never
exposed to media. There are SOPs to record their statements before the
judge in a child friendly environment under the law.

Targetting individuals and bashing of organisation won't help. I feel this
incident has been handled in most professional manner. Even when kids
didn't feel it was any abuse, the organisation has taken a right step of
registering an FIR and bringing the culprit to book. We all need to standby
them to see that law take its course and case is followed up till it
reaches its logical conclusion!

Regards

Subhash Chandra Vashishth
Advocate

On 07-Sep-2017 9:40 PM, "Dipendra Manocha via Ai" <
ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> wrote:

> Do you really feel that children should be facing  mainstream media in
> such cases?
>
>
>
> The media itself is more sensitive than what is been said here. They
> themselves know that they are not supposed to be speaking to minors and
> putting them through  any such humiliations.
>
>
>
> Please stop spreading rumors based on so called reliable sources or
> baseless allegations being leveled by  an individuals on any unverifiable
> public forums.
>
>
>
> Knowingly or unknowingly, such unfounded loose talk may help the offenders
> and weaken our fight against them.
>
>
>
> Be rest assured that  as result of investigations, if anyone is found
> guilty, will have the face the consequences.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Dipendra
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] *On Behalf
> Of *r k sarin via Ai
> *Sent:* 07 September 2017 19:29
> *To:* Share, empower  
> *Cc:* r k sarin 
> *Subject:* Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident
>
>
>
> We have come to know some reliable sources that the students are
> disallowing to contact media.
>
> - Original Message -
>
> *From:* Kanchan Pamnani via Ai 
>
> *To:* 'Share, empower ' 
>
> *Cc:* Kanchan Pamnani 
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 07, 2017 6:52 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident
>
>
>
> Sarinji
>
> I  do not think the discussion should be closed. Even if we close it on
> accessindia the press will still carry it and Avinash and others will copy
> it for us.
>
> I however think that the reporting to the police has been a good step.
>
> I also think that my advice to Prashant that  he must track the matter is
> sound advice.NAB Delhi is going to be harassed by many and we in the sector
> must atleast criticise only after knowing facts.
>
> Now the next set of problems who will you protect the kids from and to
> what extent?
>
> Avinash has listed out a few recent incidents.There are many more.
>
> Who do you trust- Trustees, management,staff, family members,  volunteers,
> politicians,police,  seniors  from the same sex or from the opposite sex.
> Everyone can be suspect and we have to guard against everyone. These crimes
> donot get committed completely by one person. Therefore I had mentioned an
> insider accomplice.   Management cannot be blamed unless it is directly
> involved. If management has taken precaution as much as a prudent man would
> have then we cannot blame management.
>
> In many cases the parties have hushed up matters –this is detrimental to
> everyone.
>
> But blaming anyone before investigation is over is wrong.
>
> Kanchan
>
>
>
> *From:* Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in
> ] *On Behalf Of *r k sarin
> via Ai
> *Sent:* 07 September 2017 14:53
> *To:* Share, empower 
> *Cc:* r k sarin
> *Subject:* Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident
>
>
>
> Kanchan ji, do you think that this superfluous approach will help NAB and
> its institutions in a longer run. Why not to talk about the dilemma of the
> NGOs--services vs. management of funds. purely person outlook.
>
>
>
> R.K. Sarin
>
> - Original Message -
>
> *From:* Kanchan Pamnani via Ai 
>
> *To:* 'Share, empower ' 
>
> *Cc:* Kanchan Pamnani 
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 06, 2017 6:14 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident
>
>
>
> Prashant,
>
> Most NGOs hide such incidents therefore we are proud of you for taking the
> right steps.
>
> Maybe other NGOs will learn and our faith in the system will be revived.
>
>
>
> Incidents like this happen unfortunately. You can tighten your security
> etc but this can happen again.
>
> Much harassment will be doled out to the alleged accused but the same
> harassment will be doled out in greater measure to your organisation and
> its staff and members first. Unfortunately this is how the legal system
> works in India.
>
> Please keep a track of the matter because if you 

Re: [Ai] Official state me not of Radio pertaining to the discussion on latest incident in Nab Delhi

[arpitg56--- via Ai]

Sent via micromaxOn Sep 7, 2017 3:57 PM, Amit Bhatt via Ai 
 wrote:
>
> Dear Danish and Radio Udaan,
>
> Why don't you expose the person and Organization who has threaten you over 
> the phone for conducting the show on Radio.
> This is a serious matter and needs more focus as threatening over the phone 
> is itself a crime.
>
> I am surprised indirectly some people are trying to make other bloggers of 
> this list afraid by giving legal worning and refraining the discussion as a 
> whole.
>
> Radio Udaan has also revealed many positive and good things about various 
> NGO's in previously broadcasted shows, why those organizations have not 
> raised any question then and why Radio Udaan was not rewarded for that work 
> if today we are talking about the legal actions to be taken against a media 
> mode like Radio udaan.
>
> Every matter for every indivisual or group is sensitive and couple of weeks 
> back a large number of the subscriber of this list have discussed an issue 
> related to rape by ablind accused, why this discussion was not interupted? 
> Was that matter not sensitive for the said accused?
> How we can be selective about what sensitive matter is to be discussed or 
> what not.
>
> Let's try to resolve every issue by accepting the pits and falls and do not 
> try to divert from the main cause of concern
>
> And please also do not try to stop the voices in the name of legal worning. 
> The doors of law are open to everyone and lawyers are available to every 
> citizen of India.
>
> this entire issue was already brought under public domain by various media 
> channels.
>
> It would have been nice if one could simply say that we are working towards 
> this matter and we would require the support from all of you but 
> unfortunately some members are being threaten or worned. This is not a right 
> message.
>
> This would be my final message unless we receive any unsolicited or 
> threatening response.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Amit Bhatt
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Radio Udaan via Ai" 
> To: "ai" 
>     Cc: "Radio Udaan" 
> Se    nt: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 6:29 PM
> Subject: [Ai] Official statement of Radioudaan pertaining to the discussion 
> on latest incident in Nab Delhi
>
> > Official statement of Radioudaan pertaining to the discussion on
> > latest incident in Nab Delhi
> > Dear all,
> > Greetings from Radio Udaan
> > We, radioudaan, a disability community radio work only and only for
> > community and talk about improving the conditions of brothers and
> > sisters in the community. Recently we had conducted a discussion on
> > the molestation case which took place in NAB, Delhi. Since there are
> > so many rumors which r floating around and in this regard we have come
> > up with our official statement to clear the air. We have got many
> > feedback with respect to the discussion we had last evening and many r
> > very happy to see us raise this topic as best as we could. On the
> > other hand also we got many complaints from many organizations who r
> > very disturbed with our reporting. Also a few individuals also
> > complained on the coverage.
> > Radio Udaan is a very responsible station and we take full
> > responsibility on our coverage. We quote Mr. Prashant Ranjan Verma who
> > has written the following statement on a social platform.,
> > (The incident reported in the newspapers and by Radio Udaan is under
> > the POCSO act where people are forbidden to reveal anything which
> > could lead to the
> > Identity of the victims.
> > The way people discuss things on the AI list, I am afraid it could
> > invite legal action by the police.
> > So, please do not allow this to go through. I am of course available
> > to answer questions on phone or personal email.
> > Yesterday Radio Udaan has done a very disturbing show on this already
> > and they got lot of complains already.
> > Thanks,
> > Prashant Verma)
> >
> > We would also like to clarify that we take full responsibility and are
> > ready to face any legal action with regards to our show. As far as the
> > statement of Mr. Verma that Radio Udaan has done a very disturbing
> > show and we have got a lot of complaints for that we would like to
> > clarify that we have got just one complaint which was more of a
> > threatening call rather than being a complaint.
> > In India we have right to speak so we cannot stop anyone from
> > presenting their views and as per the revealing of identity is
> > concerned we have already removed the objectionable stuff from the
> > show and we have posted a statement on you tube also. This statement
> > is given by our general secretary Mr. Danish mahajan and one can
> > easily listen to it by typing radioudaan statement on latest
> > discussion on incident in NAB delhi.
> >
> > Whenever in future we will do such a show organizations will get
> > disturbed 

Re: [Ai] FS reader related query

[Sameer via Ai]

Dear Mohit,

Kindly check if JAWS virtual cursor is active. If it is inactive, The Move 
to next heading keystroke will not work.


Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey
Mumbai, India
-Original Message- 
From: Mohit Gupta via Ai

Sent: 06 September, 2017 9:00 PM
To: ai
Cc: Mohit Gupta
Subject: [Ai] FS reader related query

Dear friends,
I am using FS reader. When I open any daisy book, it  doesn't move
heading wise. I press H to move heading wise but jaws speaks next
heading name but recording doesn't change. How to solve it.

--
Thanks and Regards,
Mohit Gupta.
Rajasthan.
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Re: [Ai] sugamya pustakalaya download link is not working

[Dipendra Manocha via Ai]

Dear Siddalingeshwar

Actually due to some technical problem you received link with IP address. If
user replaced IP address in the download link with "library.daisyindia.org"
and then pasted it in address bar or IDM then it will work.

We are getting this bug fixed through the developers. Meanwhile follow above
instructions to download.

Thanks
Dipendra


-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi via Ai
Sent: 07 September 2017 14:58
To: Share, empower  
Cc: Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi 
Subject: Re: [Ai] sugamya pustakalaya download link is not working

hi all,
I tried with internet download manager but connection time out unable to
download the file.
don't know why this error not fixing. if we unable to download file then
what is usage of this.
yesterday I asked how to replace IP address with download URL, still waiting
for method.
I request
please fix the issue.

 

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On 9/7/17, Ajay Minocha via Ai  wrote:
> Hey Akash,
>
> Thanks a lot, I am able to download the book.
>
> It is even easier with internet download manager if we add our login 
> credentials in the sights login tabe under IDM options.
>
> Cheers,
> Ajay
>
> On 9/6/17, Akash Gupta via Ai  wrote:
>> give me your link which is showing on sugamya. I will try to give you 
>> right link.
>>
>> On 05/09/2017, Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi via Ai 
>>  wrote:
>>> how to replace with IP address? in the download URL I pasted my IP 
>>> address after ftp:// is it right method? but still problem loading 
>>> page.
>>> regards. >> style="border-top: 1px solid #D3D4DE;">
>>> 
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>>>
>>> On 9/5/17, Akash Gupta via Ai 
>>> wrote:
 I have successfully downloded all the requested books. I replaced 
 my IP address in the download link with "library.daisyindia.org" 
 and then pasted it in address bar. Now a days sugamya library gives 
 links with our IP address. there is a technical issue in library.

 On 31/08/2017, Akash Gupta  wrote:
> I am facing same problem.
>
> On 27/08/2017, Mohit Gupta via Ai 
> 
> wrote:
>> Dear sir,
>> I have download some books from sugamya. after some time download 
>> link has been available in my download request  page. when I 
>> enter on the link of download it doesn't work. I am facing this 
>> problem from three to four days.
>> What should I do?
>> --
>> Thanks and Regards,
>> Mohit Gupta.
>> Rajasthan.
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> Akash Gupta
> Rajasthan
> Skype: akash.gupta2412
>
> 
> The only thing worse than being blind is having sight but no vision.
> By "Helen Keller".
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 With Warm Regards,
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 Rajasthan
 Skype: akash.gupta2412

 
 The only thing worse than being blind is having sight but no vision.
 By "Helen 

[Ai] emailing grop for anroid

[Soni Jo via Ai]

Dear all,
Having trouble with my anroid device. I do not know where to discuss
my problem, I mean, which mailing group.
 I am not receiving any email from the mobile access india group too.
 Help me!
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Re: [Ai] Bluetooth headset for iPhone

[Prashant Ranjan Verma via Ai]

In general the best one for people who wear headphone for long periods is
the Aftershokz.
It is bone conduction technology. You can search and order it from Amazon.
It is expensive but worth the price.


-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
Pranay Gadodia via Ai
Sent: 07 September 2017 20:56
To: 'Share, empower ' 
Cc: Pranay Gadodia 
Subject: [Ai] Bluetooth headset for iPhone

Hi all,
Need recommendations for a Bluetooth headset for iPhone S e.  
- While it should have good audio quality as well as good transmission for
the other person to hear, not sure if the headset can also be used to listen
to music/audio content
- Are there Bluetooth headsets available for both the ears but detached from
each other, in other words which is not a headphone/neckphone? The idea is
to use one ear piece for conversations, and use both the ear pieces when
listening to music/audio content.

Any experiential recommendations would really help. 

Thanks,
Pranay.

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[Ai] Bluetooth headset for iPhone

[Pranay Gadodia via Ai]

Hi all,
Need recommendations for a Bluetooth headset for iPhone S e.  
- While it should have good audio quality as well as good transmission for the 
other person to hear, not sure if the headset can also be used to listen to 
music/audio content
- Are there Bluetooth headsets available for both the ears but detached from 
each other, in other words which is not a headphone/neckphone? The idea is to 
use one ear piece for conversations, and use both the ear pieces when listening 
to music/audio content.

Any experiential recommendations would really help. 

Thanks,
Pranay.

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Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

[r k sarin via Ai]

We have come to know some reliable sources that the students are disallowing to 
contact media.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kanchan Pamnani via Ai 
  To: 'Share, empower ' 
  Cc: Kanchan Pamnani 
  Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 6:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident


  Sarinji 

  I  do not think the discussion should be closed. Even if we close it on 
accessindia the press will still carry it and Avinash and others will copy it 
for us. 

  I however think that the reporting to the police has been a good step. 

  I also think that my advice to Prashant that  he must track the matter is 
sound advice.NAB Delhi is going to be harassed by many and we in the sector 
must atleast criticise only after knowing facts.

  Now the next set of problems who will you protect the kids from and to what 
extent?

  Avinash has listed out a few recent incidents.There are many more.  

  Who do you trust- Trustees, management,staff, family members,  volunteers, 
politicians,police,  seniors  from the same sex or from the opposite sex. 
Everyone can be suspect and we have to guard against everyone. These crimes 
donot get committed completely by one person. Therefore I had mentioned an 
insider accomplice.   Management cannot be blamed unless it is directly 
involved. If management has taken precaution as much as a prudent man would 
have then we cannot blame management.  

  In many cases the parties have hushed up matters -this is detrimental to 
everyone.

  But blaming anyone before investigation is over is wrong. 

  Kanchan 

   

  From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of r k 
sarin via Ai
  Sent: 07 September 2017 14:53
  To: Share, empower 
  Cc: r k sarin
  Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

   

  Kanchan ji, do you think that this superfluous approach will help NAB and its 
institutions in a longer run. Why not to talk about the dilemma of the 
NGOs--services vs. management of funds. purely person outlook.

   

  R.K. Sarin

- Original Message - 

From: Kanchan Pamnani via Ai 

To: 'Share, empower ' 

Cc: Kanchan Pamnani 

Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 6:14 PM

Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

 

Prashant, 

Most NGOs hide such incidents therefore we are proud of you for taking the 
right steps.  

Maybe other NGOs will learn and our faith in the system will be revived. 

 

Incidents like this happen unfortunately. You can tighten your security etc 
but this can happen again. 

Much harassment will be doled out to the alleged accused but the same 
harassment will be doled out in greater measure to your organisation and its 
staff and members first. Unfortunately this is how the legal system works in 
India.

Please keep a track of the matter because if you don't the matter will slip 
under the carpet. This  will take some time to end. 

You will need to track the police.

Many in this group have a connection direct or indirect with NAB Delhi and 
would like to keep a track of the  newspaper reports etc. 

Yes no names must or should be revealed. 

 

We are with you please go the whole hog even if there is someone from 
inside who is going to be implicated as an accomplice.

Kanchan   

 

From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
Prashant Ranjan Verma via Ai
Sent: 06 September 2017 09:54
To: 'Harish Kotian via Ai'
Cc: Prashant Ranjan Verma
Subject: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

 

Dear Harish,

The incident reported in the newspapers and by Radio Udaan is under the 
POCSO act where peple are forbidden to reveal anything which  could lead to the 
identity of the victims. 

The way peple discuss things on the AI list, I am afraid it could invite 
legal action  by the police. 

So, please do not allow this to go through. I am ofcourse availableto 
answer fquestions on phone or personal email.

Yesterday Radio Udaan has done a very disturbing show on this already and 
they got  lot of complains already. 

 

Thanks,

 

Prashant Verma 

 

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Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

[B. R. Nautial via Ai]

Of course! this is not good for the reputation of the institution at all. Now, 
the case has already been handed over to the police and they know, how to deal 
with the case. I am sure! it'll give a very bad signal to the donars as well. 
Everyone of us know, no such institutions can run without public support, so 
let them do their work.
  - Original Message - 
  From: r k sarin via Ai 
  To: Share, empower  
  Cc: r k sarin 
  Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 7:29 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident


  We have come to know some reliable sources that the students are disallowing 
to contact media.
- Original Message - 
From: Kanchan Pamnani via Ai 
To: 'Share, empower ' 
Cc: Kanchan Pamnani 
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident


Sarinji 

I  do not think the discussion should be closed. Even if we close it on 
accessindia the press will still carry it and Avinash and others will copy it 
for us. 

I however think that the reporting to the police has been a good step. 

I also think that my advice to Prashant that  he must track the matter is 
sound advice.NAB Delhi is going to be harassed by many and we in the sector 
must atleast criticise only after knowing facts.

Now the next set of problems who will you protect the kids from and to what 
extent?

Avinash has listed out a few recent incidents.There are many more.  

Who do you trust- Trustees, management,staff, family members,  volunteers, 
politicians,police,  seniors  from the same sex or from the opposite sex. 
Everyone can be suspect and we have to guard against everyone. These crimes 
donot get committed completely by one person. Therefore I had mentioned an 
insider accomplice.   Management cannot be blamed unless it is directly 
involved. If management has taken precaution as much as a prudent man would 
have then we cannot blame management.  

In many cases the parties have hushed up matters -this is detrimental to 
everyone.

But blaming anyone before investigation is over is wrong. 

Kanchan 

 

From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of r 
k sarin via Ai
Sent: 07 September 2017 14:53
To: Share, empower 
Cc: r k sarin
Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

 

Kanchan ji, do you think that this superfluous approach will help NAB and 
its institutions in a longer run. Why not to talk about the dilemma of the 
NGOs--services vs. management of funds. purely person outlook.

 

R.K. Sarin

  - Original Message - 

  From: Kanchan Pamnani via Ai 

  To: 'Share, empower ' 

  Cc: Kanchan Pamnani 

  Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 6:14 PM

  Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

   

  Prashant, 

  Most NGOs hide such incidents therefore we are proud of you for taking 
the right steps.  

  Maybe other NGOs will learn and our faith in the system will be revived. 

   

  Incidents like this happen unfortunately. You can tighten your security 
etc but this can happen again. 

  Much harassment will be doled out to the alleged accused but the same 
harassment will be doled out in greater measure to your organisation and its 
staff and members first. Unfortunately this is how the legal system works in 
India.

  Please keep a track of the matter because if you don't the matter will 
slip under the carpet. This  will take some time to end. 

  You will need to track the police.

  Many in this group have a connection direct or indirect with NAB Delhi 
and would like to keep a track of the  newspaper reports etc. 

  Yes no names must or should be revealed. 

   

  We are with you please go the whole hog even if there is someone from 
inside who is going to be implicated as an accomplice.

  Kanchan   

   

  From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
Prashant Ranjan Verma via Ai
  Sent: 06 September 2017 09:54
  To: 'Harish Kotian via Ai'
  Cc: Prashant Ranjan Verma
  Subject: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

   

  Dear Harish,

  The incident reported in the newspapers and by Radio Udaan is under the 
POCSO act where peple are forbidden to reveal anything which  could lead to the 
identity of the victims. 

  The way peple discuss things on the AI list, I am afraid it could invite 
legal action  by the police. 

  So, please do not allow this to go through. I am ofcourse availableto 
answer fquestions on phone or personal email.

  Yesterday Radio Udaan has done a very disturbing show on this already and 
they got  lot of complains already. 

   

  Thanks,

   

  Prashant Verma 

   

  Creating the Best way to Read 

Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

[Dipendra Manocha via Ai]

Do you really feel that children should be facing  mainstream media in such
cases?

 

The media itself is more sensitive than what is been said here. They
themselves know that they are not supposed to be speaking to minors and
putting them through  any such humiliations.

 

Please stop spreading rumors based on so called reliable sources or baseless
allegations being leveled by  an individuals on any unverifiable public
forums. 

 

Knowingly or unknowingly, such unfounded loose talk may help the offenders
and weaken our fight against them.

 

Be rest assured that  as result of investigations, if anyone is found
guilty, will have the face the consequences.

 

Thanks

Dipendra

 

 

From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of r
k sarin via Ai
Sent: 07 September 2017 19:29
To: Share, empower  
Cc: r k sarin 
Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

 

We have come to know some reliable sources that the students are disallowing
to contact media.

- Original Message - 

From: Kanchan Pamnani via Ai   

To: 'Share, empower   ' 

Cc: Kanchan Pamnani   

Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 6:52 PM

Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

 

Sarinji 

I  do not think the discussion should be closed. Even if we close it on
accessindia the press will still carry it and Avinash and others will copy
it for us. 

I however think that the reporting to the police has been a good step. 

I also think that my advice to Prashant that  he must track the matter is
sound advice.NAB Delhi is going to be harassed by many and we in the sector
must atleast criticise only after knowing facts.

Now the next set of problems who will you protect the kids from and to what
extent?

Avinash has listed out a few recent incidents.There are many more.  

Who do you trust- Trustees, management,staff, family members,  volunteers,
politicians,police,  seniors  from the same sex or from the opposite sex.
Everyone can be suspect and we have to guard against everyone. These crimes
donot get committed completely by one person. Therefore I had mentioned an
insider accomplice.   Management cannot be blamed unless it is directly
involved. If management has taken precaution as much as a prudent man would
have then we cannot blame management.  

In many cases the parties have hushed up matters -this is detrimental to
everyone.

But blaming anyone before investigation is over is wrong. 

Kanchan 

 

From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of r
k sarin via Ai
Sent: 07 September 2017 14:53
To: Share, empower 
Cc: r k sarin
Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

 

Kanchan ji, do you think that this superfluous approach will help NAB and
its institutions in a longer run. Why not to talk about the dilemma of the
NGOs--services vs. management of funds. purely person outlook.

 

R.K. Sarin

- Original Message - 

From: Kanchan Pamnani via Ai   

To: 'Share, empower   ' 

Cc: Kanchan Pamnani   

Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 6:14 PM

Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

 

Prashant, 

Most NGOs hide such incidents therefore we are proud of you for taking the
right steps.  

Maybe other NGOs will learn and our faith in the system will be revived. 

 

Incidents like this happen unfortunately. You can tighten your security etc
but this can happen again. 

Much harassment will be doled out to the alleged accused but the same
harassment will be doled out in greater measure to your organisation and its
staff and members first. Unfortunately this is how the legal system works in
India.

Please keep a track of the matter because if you don't the matter will slip
under the carpet. This  will take some time to end. 

You will need to track the police.

Many in this group have a connection direct or indirect with NAB Delhi and
would like to keep a track of the  newspaper reports etc. 

Yes no names must or should be revealed. 

 

We are with you please go the whole hog even if there is someone from inside
who is going to be implicated as an accomplice.

Kanchan   

 

From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
Prashant Ranjan Verma via Ai
Sent: 06 September 2017 09:54
To: 'Harish Kotian via Ai'
Cc: Prashant Ranjan Verma
Subject: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

 

Dear Harish,

The incident reported in the newspapers and by Radio Udaan is under the
POCSO act where peple are forbidden to reveal anything which  could lead to
the identity of the victims. 

The way peple discuss things on the AI list, I am afraid it could invite

Re: [Ai] [DKIM Failure] Re: Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

[Dipendra Manocha via Ai]

Dear all

NAB Delhi appreciates concerns related to safety of students studying in
institutions. Be rest assured that we are more concerned about safety of our
students than anyone else in this world. Do notice this fact that the
incident was not reported by any student but was caught by the vigilant
staff of the institution itself. This has happened due to various measures
put in place by NAB Delhi for this purpose. Strong evidence against this
crime too is a result of several measures taken by the institution in past
many years. Many advised us that we should hush this matter and not file FIR
against the person. However. Taking bold step of going to the police and
reporting about this and not trying to hide such incident is testimony about
our commitment to fight against this menace. 

Right now law is taking its due course. All investigations, introspections
after a shocking incident like this and deriving learnings from this are all
happening. 

Over all, we have seen solidarity from all sides and assistance is offered
to us so that we are not left alone in taking this fight to its conclusion. 

I feel and so do many of the supporters that this is time to stand in
solidarity and  make sure it should be the criminals who should feel scared
and not the ones who take the courageous step of bringing such matters to
light.

Be rest assured that as per its standing of past 40 years, Nab Delhi  will
uphold its values and continue to bring about revolutionary changes for the
betterment of persons with blindness. We are determined to emerge stronger
from this adversity too.

Do not forget that often child abuse happens by most trusted members of
family or friends and this is what has happened to us too. This kind of
betrayal has shocked us and pained us to no end. I sincerely hope that we
will get support from the community to  fight  against child abusers and not
start getting victimized by the community itself.

Our responses to these discussions will be slow to come by as we are busy in
investigations, providing adequate support and counseling of students after
coming into light of such incident,  following up with the police case and
dealing with mainstream media in addition to the regular work of the
institution.

Thanks
Dipendra
-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
avinash shahi via Ai
Sent: 07 September 2017 16:09
To: Share, empower  
Cc: avinash shahi 
Subject: Re: [Ai] [DKIM Failure] Re: Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi
incident

As we lambast government for its failure, So we have equal rights to dwell
deep into wrong-doing in the NGO sector also. They afterall seek money in
the name of blind people's welfare.The recent incedent which surfaced at
National Association for the blind Delhi is just a tip of the iceberg. Over
the last two years the sexual assaults faced by children and female
residents have been widely reported in the media.
I remember, the female students at NAB Bangalore complaint harassment
against the NAB Bangalore officials, and the Karnataka CCPD took  some
action after being pressured by the civil society. The Panch Koyaan school
in Delhi which is also known as 'andh Maha vidyalay' was also in the news
recently where scenior students continued abusing junior students sexually
for years and the administration of the school took no action. I also
remember couple of years back, A reporter working with Manorma magazine has
brought forth the issue of sexual assaults faced by women residents at Sant
Nagar hostel by the donors and the administration didn't barred donors from
visiting hostels.
notwithstanding the unreported harassments which go unnoticed in hostels
where blind children/female students reside, The above cited case studies
paint a very scary portrayal of insecure atmosphere which impede the overall
development of blind children. Donation is the key to sustaining these
institutions but putting at stake the psychological and physical well-being
of young students raises several burning questions about day-to-day
functioning of such institutions.


On 9/7/17, Asudani, Rajesh via Ai 
wrote:
> I think antecedents of volunteers also must be checked.
> However, not checking antecedents is different from deliberately 
> allowing bad people to come in and volunteer.
> Whatever, management should learn lessons for future.
>
>
> From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf 
> Of r k sarin via Ai
> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 2:13 PM
> To: Share, empower 
> Cc: r k sarin
> Subject: [DKIM Failure] Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi 
> incident
>
> I do not know whether mail will be covered or not, but still writing 
> with few questions. Is NAB Delhi not a voluntary organisation running 
> a school for the blind students and is it not the fact that it is not 
> an individual 

Re: [Ai] Official statement of Radioudaan pertaining to the discussion on latest incident in Nab Delhi

[r k sarin via Ai]

Thanks for this chryystal clear message. The moment any ngo reduces to a 
shop, people for grant many things. I agree that this is not the case in the 
voluntary work of the field of the blind persons, it is being seen at many 
places.
- Original Message - 
From: "Amit Bhatt via Ai" 

To: "Share, empower " 
Cc: "Amit Bhatt" 
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Official statement of Radioudaan pertaining to the 
discussion on latest incident in Nab Delhi




Dear Danish and Radio Udaan,

Why don't you expose the person and Organization who has threaten you over 
the phone for conducting the show on Radio.
This is a serious matter and needs more focus as threatening over the 
phone is itself a crime.


I am surprised indirectly some people are trying to make other bloggers of 
this list afraid by giving legal worning and refraining the discussion as 
a whole.


Radio Udaan has also revealed many positive and good things about various 
NGO's in previously broadcasted shows, why those organizations have not 
raised any question then and why Radio Udaan was not rewarded for that 
work if today we are talking about the legal actions to be taken against a 
media mode like Radio udaan.


Every matter for every indivisual or group is sensitive and couple of 
weeks back a large number of the subscriber of this list have discussed an 
issue related to rape by ablind accused, why this discussion was not 
interupted? Was that matter not sensitive for the said accused?
How we can be selective about what sensitive matter is to be discussed or 
what not.


Let's try to resolve every issue by accepting the pits and falls and do 
not try to divert from the main cause of concern


And please also do not try to stop the voices in the name of legal 
worning. The doors of law are open to everyone and lawyers are available 
to every citizen of India.


this entire issue was already brought under public domain by various media 
channels.


It would have been nice if one could simply say that we are working 
towards this matter and we would require the support from all of you but 
unfortunately some members are being threaten or worned. This is not a 
right message.


This would be my final message unless we receive any unsolicited or 
threatening response.


Thanks,

Amit Bhatt
- Original Message - 
From: "Radio Udaan via Ai" 

To: "ai" 
   Cc: "Radio Udaan" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 6:29 PM
Subject: [Ai] Official statement of Radioudaan pertaining to the 
discussion on latest incident in Nab Delhi




Official statement of Radioudaan pertaining to the discussion on
latest incident in Nab Delhi
Dear all,
Greetings from Radio Udaan
We, radioudaan, a disability community radio work only and only for
community and talk about improving the conditions of brothers and
sisters in the community. Recently we had conducted a discussion on
the molestation case which took place in NAB, Delhi. Since there are
so many rumors which r floating around and in this regard we have come
up with our official statement to clear the air. We have got many
feedback with respect to the discussion we had last evening and many r
very happy to see us raise this topic as best as we could. On the
other hand also we got many complaints from many organizations who r
very disturbed with our reporting. Also a few individuals also
complained on the coverage.
Radio Udaan is a very responsible station and we take full
responsibility on our coverage. We quote Mr. Prashant Ranjan Verma who
has written the following statement on a social platform.,
(The incident reported in the newspapers and by Radio Udaan is under
the POCSO act where people are forbidden to reveal anything which
could lead to the
Identity of the victims.
The way people discuss things on the AI list, I am afraid it could
invite legal action by the police.
So, please do not allow this to go through. I am of course available
to answer questions on phone or personal email.
Yesterday Radio Udaan has done a very disturbing show on this already
and they got lot of complains already.
Thanks,
Prashant Verma)

We would also like to clarify that we take full responsibility and are
ready to face any legal action with regards to our show. As far as the
statement of Mr. Verma that Radio Udaan has done a very disturbing
show and we have got a lot of complaints for that we would like to
clarify that we have got just one complaint which was more of a
threatening call rather than being a complaint.
In India we have right to speak so we cannot stop anyone from
presenting their views and as per the revealing of identity is
concerned we have already removed the objectionable stuff from the
show and we have posted a statement on you tube also. This statement
is given by our general 

Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

[Kanchan Pamnani via Ai]

Sarinji 

I  do not think the discussion should be closed. Even if we close it on
accessindia the press will still carry it and Avinash and others will copy
it for us. 

I however think that the reporting to the police has been a good step. 

I also think that my advice to Prashant that  he must track the matter is
sound advice.NAB Delhi is going to be harassed by many and we in the sector
must atleast criticise only after knowing facts.

Now the next set of problems who will you protect the kids from and to what
extent?

Avinash has listed out a few recent incidents.There are many more.  

Who do you trust- Trustees, management,staff, family members,  volunteers,
politicians,police,  seniors  from the same sex or from the opposite sex.
Everyone can be suspect and we have to guard against everyone. These crimes
donot get committed completely by one person. Therefore I had mentioned an
insider accomplice.   Management cannot be blamed unless it is directly
involved. If management has taken precaution as much as a prudent man would
have then we cannot blame management.  

In many cases the parties have hushed up matters -this is detrimental to
everyone.

But blaming anyone before investigation is over is wrong. 

Kanchan 

 

From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of r
k sarin via Ai
Sent: 07 September 2017 14:53
To: Share, empower 
Cc: r k sarin
Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

 

Kanchan ji, do you think that this superfluous approach will help NAB and
its institutions in a longer run. Why not to talk about the dilemma of the
NGOs--services vs. management of funds. purely person outlook.

 

R.K. Sarin

- Original Message - 

From: Kanchan Pamnani via Ai   

To: 'Share, empower   ' 

Cc: Kanchan Pamnani   

Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 6:14 PM

Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

 

Prashant, 

Most NGOs hide such incidents therefore we are proud of you for taking the
right steps.  

Maybe other NGOs will learn and our faith in the system will be revived. 

 

Incidents like this happen unfortunately. You can tighten your security etc
but this can happen again. 

Much harassment will be doled out to the alleged accused but the same
harassment will be doled out in greater measure to your organisation and its
staff and members first. Unfortunately this is how the legal system works in
India.

Please keep a track of the matter because if you don't the matter will slip
under the carpet. This  will take some time to end. 

You will need to track the police.

Many in this group have a connection direct or indirect with NAB Delhi and
would like to keep a track of the  newspaper reports etc. 

Yes no names must or should be revealed. 

 

We are with you please go the whole hog even if there is someone from inside
who is going to be implicated as an accomplice.

Kanchan   

 

From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
Prashant Ranjan Verma via Ai
Sent: 06 September 2017 09:54
To: 'Harish Kotian via Ai'
Cc: Prashant Ranjan Verma
Subject: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

 

Dear Harish,

The incident reported in the newspapers and by Radio Udaan is under the
POCSO act where peple are forbidden to reveal anything which  could lead to
the identity of the victims. 

The way peple discuss things on the AI list, I am afraid it could invite
legal action  by the police. 

So, please do not allow this to go through. I am ofcourse availableto
answer fquestions on phone or personal email.

Yesterday Radio Udaan has done a very disturbing show on this already and
they got  lot of complains already. 

 

Thanks,

 

Prashant Verma 

 

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Re: [Ai] A pen for text reading

[Akash Gupta via Ai]

hi amer ji
In alwar I read this article on last page.
Date is 29-8-2017

On 06/09/2017, Amar Jain via Ai  wrote:
> Hi Mohit,
>
> Which edition? We might be speak to editors in Rajasthan.
>
> Regards,
> Amar Jain
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 06-Sep-2017, at 7:25 PM, Rashmi Taneja via Ai
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hello all
>> I, too, wish to know how and from where to get any such scanner if
>> available, what is it's cost, and how can we use a smart phone to read
>> books. Moreover, is it possible to read any kind of printed book with
>> either the scanner or phone, or the textbook should be of some
>> particular type? For example, can an ordinary printed novel be read by
>> the scanner or phone?
>>
>>> On 9/6/17, MAMTA tambe  via Ai 
>>> wrote:
>>> I too am looking for such device,
>>>
>>> Is there such pen or any hand held device available.
>>>
>>> What is its cost or where is it available?
>>>
>>> Any info is appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Satguru Rathi via Ai
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 12:14 PM
>>> To: ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in
>>> Cc: Satguru Rathi
>>> Subject: Re: [Ai] A pen for text reading
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>> I too, am looking for such stand to use OCR on my phone effectively. Any
>>> info about such products is appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>> With best regards,
>>> Satguru
>>> ___,__.___
>>> "Life's battle do not always go, to the stronger or faster man. But
>>> sooner
>>> or later the one who wins, is the one who thinks he can."
>>>
>>> Satguru Rathi
>>> +91-9871489945
>>> satgurura...@gmail.com
>>>
 On 9/5/2017 9:10 AM, Akash Gupta via Ai wrote:
 how to get stand for smart phone.

 On 02/09/2017, Mohit Gupta via Ai 
>>> wrote:
> Dear friends,
> I have read in danik bhasker on 29th august that:
> In the book fair in pragati madan in new delhi, there is a stall of
> foreign  company which have a pen. This pen reads books for visually
> impaired and its cost is around 2.
> In the newspaper company  anme and device name haven't mentioned. May
> anyone know about it?
>
> --
> Thanks and Regards,
> Mohit Gupta.
> Rajasthan.
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Re: [Ai] Official statement of Radioudaan pertaining to the discussion on latest incident in Nab Delhi

[Kanchan Pamnani via Ai]

Amit 
Only one technical correction for you-
When like in this case the police has arrested or someone has said a crime has 
occurred the person who  is supposed to have committed the crime is called "The 
Accused" He is presumed innocent until guilty. 
In the other case which we were discussing last week-rape of a blind woman, The 
court had held the man guilty of committing a crime therefore "a criminal". 
Even this is not finished the man may have appealed and may be acquitted as 
innocent or the lower court order confirmed and therefore a criminal. This 
story ends when he stops appealing or the Supreme Court finally decides.  
Thought I should clarify the difference.   

Don’t know anything about the show so not commenting. 
Kanchan   
-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of Amit 
Bhatt via Ai
Sent: 07 September 2017 15:57
To: Share, empower 
Cc: Amit Bhatt
Subject: Re: [Ai] Official statement of Radioudaan pertaining to the discussion 
on latest incident in Nab Delhi

Dear Danish and Radio Udaan,

Why don't you expose the person and Organization who has threaten you over the 
phone for conducting the show on Radio.
This is a serious matter and needs more focus as threatening over the phone is 
itself a crime.

I am surprised indirectly some people are trying to make other bloggers of this 
list afraid by giving legal worning and refraining the discussion as a whole.

Radio Udaan has also revealed many positive and good things about various NGO's 
in previously broadcasted shows, why those organizations have not raised any 
question then and why Radio Udaan was not rewarded for that work if today we 
are talking about the legal actions to be taken against a media mode like Radio 
udaan.

Every matter for every indivisual or group is sensitive and couple of weeks 
back a large number of the subscriber of this list have discussed an issue 
related to rape by ablind accused, why this discussion was not interupted? 
Was that matter not sensitive for the said accused?
How we can be selective about what sensitive matter is to be discussed or what 
not.

Let's try to resolve every issue by accepting the pits and falls and do not try 
to divert from the main cause of concern

And please also do not try to stop the voices in the name of legal worning. 
The doors of law are open to everyone and lawyers are available to every 
citizen of India.

this entire issue was already brought under public domain by various media 
channels.

It would have been nice if one could simply say that we are working towards 
this matter and we would require the support from all of you but unfortunately 
some members are being threaten or worned. This is not a right message.

This would be my final message unless we receive any unsolicited or threatening 
response.

Thanks,

Amit Bhatt
- Original Message -
From: "Radio Udaan via Ai" 
To: "ai" 
Cc: "Radio Udaan" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 6:29 PM
Subject: [Ai] Official statement of Radioudaan pertaining to the discussion on 
latest incident in Nab Delhi


> Official statement of Radioudaan pertaining to the discussion on 
> latest incident in Nab Delhi Dear all, Greetings from Radio Udaan We, 
> radioudaan, a disability community radio work only and only for 
> community and talk about improving the conditions of brothers and 
> sisters in the community. Recently we had conducted a discussion on 
> the molestation case which took place in NAB, Delhi. Since there are 
> so many rumors which r floating around and in this regard we have come 
> up with our official statement to clear the air. We have got many 
> feedback with respect to the discussion we had last evening and many r 
> very happy to see us raise this topic as best as we could. On the 
> other hand also we got many complaints from many organizations who r 
> very disturbed with our reporting. Also a few individuals also 
> complained on the coverage.
> Radio Udaan is a very responsible station and we take full 
> responsibility on our coverage. We quote Mr. Prashant Ranjan Verma who 
> has written the following statement on a social platform., (The 
> incident reported in the newspapers and by Radio Udaan is under the 
> POCSO act where people are forbidden to reveal anything which could 
> lead to the Identity of the victims.
> The way people discuss things on the AI list, I am afraid it could 
> invite legal action by the police.
> So, please do not allow this to go through. I am of course available 
> to answer questions on phone or personal email.
> Yesterday Radio Udaan has done a very disturbing show on this already 
> and they got lot of complains already.
> Thanks,
> Prashant Verma)
>
> We would also like to clarify that we take full responsibility and are 
> ready to face any legal action with regards to our show. As far as the 
> 

Re: [Ai] Official statement of Radioudaan pertaining to the discussion on latest incident in Nab Delhi

[akshun mahajan via Ai]

Dear amit Bhai, you are absolutely right but as far as names are
concerned we didn’t want to give cheap publicity to jokers and stupid
persons of the community
who are trying to threaten us and make us keep quiet as we will not be
diverted from our main objective of serving the community.

The second major issue is that we are just shocked to notice that the
so called disability rights activists of the community who talk about
raising issues
of females and community are quiet on this crucial matter.

And third and most important thing is that organizations are
threatening us for raising the crucial issue but all the leaders of
the community are numb
on this or they don’t have guts to come and condemn the people who are
creating mess and trying to make us keep quiet…
We have also noticed that most of our female’s activists who calls
themselves sexual and disability activist choose to stay mum on this
important issue.


On 9/7/17, Amit Bhatt via Ai  wrote:
> Dear Danish and Radio Udaan,
>
> Why don't you expose the person and Organization who has threaten you over
> the phone for conducting the show on Radio.
> This is a serious matter and needs more focus as threatening over the phone
> is itself a crime.
>
> I am surprised indirectly some people are trying to make other bloggers of
> this list afraid by giving legal worning and refraining the discussion as a
> whole.
>
> Radio Udaan has also revealed many positive and good things about various
> NGO's in previously broadcasted shows, why those organizations have not
> raised any question then and why Radio Udaan was not rewarded for that work
> if today we are talking about the legal actions to be taken against a media
> mode like Radio udaan.
>
> Every matter for every indivisual or group is sensitive and couple of weeks
> back a large number of the subscriber of this list have discussed an issue
> related to rape by ablind accused, why this discussion was not interupted?
> Was that matter not sensitive for the said accused?
> How we can be selective about what sensitive matter is to be discussed or
> what not.
>
> Let's try to resolve every issue by accepting the pits and falls and do not
> try to divert from the main cause of concern
>
> And please also do not try to stop the voices in the name of legal worning.
> The doors of law are open to everyone and lawyers are available to every
> citizen of India.
>
> this entire issue was already brought under public domain by various media
> channels.
>
> It would have been nice if one could simply say that we are working towards
> this matter and we would require the support from all of you but
> unfortunately some members are being threaten or worned. This is not a right
> message.
>
> This would be my final message unless we receive any unsolicited or
> threatening response.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Amit Bhatt
> - Original Message -
> From: "Radio Udaan via Ai" 
> To: "ai" 
> Cc: "Radio Udaan" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 6:29 PM
> Subject: [Ai] Official statement of Radioudaan pertaining to the discussion
> on latest incident in Nab Delhi
>
>
>> Official statement of Radioudaan pertaining to the discussion on
>> latest incident in Nab Delhi
>> Dear all,
>> Greetings from Radio Udaan
>> We, radioudaan, a disability community radio work only and only for
>> community and talk about improving the conditions of brothers and
>> sisters in the community. Recently we had conducted a discussion on
>> the molestation case which took place in NAB, Delhi. Since there are
>> so many rumors which r floating around and in this regard we have come
>> up with our official statement to clear the air. We have got many
>> feedback with respect to the discussion we had last evening and many r
>> very happy to see us raise this topic as best as we could. On the
>> other hand also we got many complaints from many organizations who r
>> very disturbed with our reporting. Also a few individuals also
>> complained on the coverage.
>> Radio Udaan is a very responsible station and we take full
>> responsibility on our coverage. We quote Mr. Prashant Ranjan Verma who
>> has written the following statement on a social platform.,
>> (The incident reported in the newspapers and by Radio Udaan is under
>> the POCSO act where people are forbidden to reveal anything which
>> could lead to the
>> Identity of the victims.
>> The way people discuss things on the AI list, I am afraid it could
>> invite legal action by the police.
>> So, please do not allow this to go through. I am of course available
>> to answer questions on phone or personal email.
>> Yesterday Radio Udaan has done a very disturbing show on this already
>> and they got lot of complains already.
>> Thanks,
>> Prashant Verma)
>>
>> We would also like to clarify that we take full responsibility and are
>> ready to face any legal 

Re: [Ai] Official statement of Radioudaan pertaining to the discussion on latest incident in Nab Delhi

[Amit Bhatt via Ai]

Dear Danish and Radio Udaan,

Why don't you expose the person and Organization who has threaten you over
the phone for conducting the show on Radio.
This is a serious matter and needs more focus as threatening over the phone
is itself a crime.

I am surprised indirectly some people are trying to make other bloggers of
this list afraid by giving legal worning and refraining the discussion as a
whole.

Radio Udaan has also revealed many positive and good things about various
NGO's in previously broadcasted shows, why those organizations have not
raised any question then and why Radio Udaan was not rewarded for that work
if today we are talking about the legal actions to be taken against a media
mode like Radio udaan.

Every matter for every indivisual or group is sensitive and couple of weeks
back a large number of the subscriber of this list have discussed an issue
related to rape by ablind accused, why this discussion was not interupted?
Was that matter not sensitive for the said accused?
How we can be selective about what sensitive matter is to be discussed or
what not.

Let's try to resolve every issue by accepting the pits and falls and do not
try to divert from the main cause of concern

And please also do not try to stop the voices in the name of legal worning.
The doors of law are open to everyone and lawyers are available to every
citizen of India.

this entire issue was already brought under public domain by various media
channels.

It would have been nice if one could simply say that we are working towards
this matter and we would require the support from all of you but
unfortunately some members are being threaten or worned. This is not a right
message.

This would be my final message unless we receive any unsolicited or
threatening response.

Thanks,

Amit Bhatt

- Original Message - 
From: "Radio Udaan via Ai" 

To: "ai" 
Cc: "Radio Udaan" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 6:29 PM
Subject: [Ai] Official statement of Radioudaan pertaining to the discussion 
on latest incident in Nab Delhi




Official statement of Radioudaan pertaining to the discussion on
latest incident in Nab Delhi
Dear all,
Greetings from Radio Udaan
We, radioudaan, a disability community radio work only and only for
community and talk about improving the conditions of brothers and
sisters in the community. Recently we had conducted a discussion on
the molestation case which took place in NAB, Delhi. Since there are
so many rumors which r floating around and in this regard we have come
up with our official statement to clear the air. We have got many
feedback with respect to the discussion we had last evening and many r
very happy to see us raise this topic as best as we could. On the
other hand also we got many complaints from many organizations who r
very disturbed with our reporting. Also a few individuals also
complained on the coverage.
Radio Udaan is a very responsible station and we take full
responsibility on our coverage. We quote Mr. Prashant Ranjan Verma who
has written the following statement on a social platform.,
(The incident reported in the newspapers and by Radio Udaan is under
the POCSO act where people are forbidden to reveal anything which
could lead to the
Identity of the victims.
The way people discuss things on the AI list, I am afraid it could
invite legal action by the police.
So, please do not allow this to go through. I am of course available
to answer questions on phone or personal email.
Yesterday Radio Udaan has done a very disturbing show on this already
and they got lot of complains already.
Thanks,
Prashant Verma)

We would also like to clarify that we take full responsibility and are
ready to face any legal action with regards to our show. As far as the
statement of Mr. Verma that Radio Udaan has done a very disturbing
show and we have got a lot of complaints for that we would like to
clarify that we have got just one complaint which was more of a
threatening call rather than being a complaint.
In India we have right to speak so we cannot stop anyone from
presenting their views and as per the revealing of identity is
concerned we have already removed the objectionable stuff from the
show and we have posted a statement on you tube also. This statement
is given by our general secretary Mr. Danish mahajan and one can
easily listen to it by typing radioudaan statement on latest
discussion on incident in NAB delhi.

Whenever in future we will do such a show organizations will get
disturbed with our coverage and this is bound to happen as such
incidents are very disturbing in nature but we will continue to do
such shows and make people disturbed. We are very happy that our
reporting and coverage make some people get disturbed and we also hope
that bringing such incidents to light will make a better environment
for us all in the society.
We request all the organizations that instead of stopping 

Re: [Ai] Official statement of Radioudaan pertaining to the discussion on latest incident in Nab Delhi

[r k sarin via Ai]

Shalini ji, sorry to say that if we are doing something goodd, why do we afraid 
of anything. To discover something one is supposed to be brave. If we cover the 
filth, it will be revealed--may be after some time. Why not to be honest and 
peep in the deep. It is not necessary that things are happening due to the 
administration but its basic reason is supposed to be traced. Hope you do not 
mind it because I am saying all this with good intention as I am also running a 
small NGO within my limitation and it hurts me if an NGO is defamed but, at the 
same time, if something is going wrong in any institution, it should provoke 
all sensible citizens to approach the authorities to find its roots.

R.K. Sarin   
  - Original Message - 
  From: NAB India Centre For Blind Women Delhi via Ai 
  To: Share, empower  
  Cc: NAB India Centre For Blind Women Delhi 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 6:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ai] Official statement of Radioudaan pertaining to the 
discussion on latest incident in Nab Delhi


  I think the only concern right now in the mind of NAB should be the victims 
and their emotional balance and that of other kids. Rest has been done with the 
police complaint.  


  It should just be a road map for other organizations to keep a check on 
visitors. And there's no room for slain and slander here. The case details have 
been given to police and media.


  Some discussion at Radio udaan did go out of sync yesterday and was not 
required. It's a sensitive issue and let's handle it sensitively for the 
benefit of the kids. 


  Our objective to have been on the show was to take a direction forward for 
society to be more aware and not for blame game. 


  While such shows are important,  they must be handled in a more planned 
approach. 


  NAB shall make plans to empower itself with better policies to secure kids 
even further in the wake of the changing face of society. 


  Regards


  Shalini Khanna 
  Director
  NAB India Centre For Blind Women and Disability Studies 
  L25 Hauz Khas Enclave
  New Delhi 110016


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Re: [Ai] [DKIM Failure] Re: Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

[avinash shahi via Ai]

As we lambast government for its failure, So we have equal rights to
dwell deep into wrong-doing in the NGO sector also. They afterall seek
money in the name of blind people's welfare.The recent incedent which
surfaced at National Association for the blind Delhi is just a tip of
the iceberg. Over the last two years the sexual assaults faced by
children and female residents have been widely reported in the media.
I remember, the female students at NAB Bangalore complaint harassment
against the NAB Bangalore officials, and the Karnataka CCPD took  some
action after being pressured by the civil society. The Panch Koyaan
school in Delhi which is also known as 'andh Maha vidyalay' was also
in the news recently where scenior students continued abusing junior
students sexually for years and the administration of the school took
no action. I also remember couple of years back, A reporter working
with Manorma magazine has brought forth the issue of sexual assaults
faced by women residents at Sant Nagar hostel by the donors and the
administration didn't barred donors from visiting hostels.
notwithstanding the unreported harassments which go unnoticed in
hostels where blind children/female students reside, The above cited
case studies paint a very scary portrayal of insecure atmosphere which
impede the overall development of blind children. Donation is the key
to sustaining these institutions but putting at stake the
psychological and physical well-being of young students raises several
burning questions about day-to-day functioning of such institutions.


On 9/7/17, Asudani, Rajesh via Ai  wrote:
> I think antecedents of volunteers also must be checked.
> However, not checking antecedents is different from deliberately allowing
> bad people to come in and volunteer.
> Whatever, management should learn lessons for future.
>
>
> From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of r
> k sarin via Ai
> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 2:13 PM
> To: Share, empower 
> Cc: r k sarin
> Subject: [DKIM Failure] Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi
> incident
>
> I do not know whether mail will be covered or not, but still writing with
> few questions. Is NAB Delhi not a voluntary organisation running a school
> for the blind students and is it not the fact that it is not an individual
> business? Why personal then and why indirect threat of police under the term
> 'perhaps'. Nab did well by lodging an FIR against person but are we not
> interested to go beyond in the interest of organisation who such incident
> took place in the hostel and we cannot save our skin by saying that it is a
> sudden incidence. Nothing happens suddenly. Nothing hhappens suddenly in
> this world and with a person who is cclaimed to be physiccally and mentally
> unfit. Voluntary work never means to permit the worstt of the society to the
> blind persons and that is why I used to talk about the pathetic condition of
> the blind in terms of the outlook towards them by the society at large and
> the administrators of the majority of the voluntary organisations. Are we
> not interested in bettter image of this prestigious institution and do we
> not need to peep into facts in a genuine manner to see the better future of
> this institutions. If today, we make use of the useless tactics by avoiding
> discussion or making inquiry about these things, I strongly feel that we are
> the enemy of this institution and it will wither away with its misdeeds. to
> - Original Message -
> From: Prashant Ranjan Verma via
> Ai
> To: 'Harish Kotian via Ai'
> Cc: Prashant Ranjan Verma
> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 9:54 AM
> Subject: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident
>
> Dear Harish,
> The incident reported in the newspapers and by Radio Udaan is under the
> POCSO act where peple are forbidden to reveal anything which  could lead to
> the identity of the victims.
> The way peple discuss things on the AI list, I am afraid it could invite
> legal action  by the police.
> So, please do not allow this to go through. I am ofcourse availableto
> answer fquestions on phone or personal email.
> Yesterday Radio Udaan has done a very disturbing show on this already and
> they got  lot of complains already.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Prashant Verma
>
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>
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Re: [Ai] Official statement of Radioudaan pertaining to the discussion on latest incident in Nab Delhi

[Amit Bhatt via Ai]

Dear Danish and Radio Udaan,

Why don't you expose the person and Organization who has threaten you over 
the phone for conducting the show on Radio.
This is a serious matter and needs more focus as threatening over the phone 
is itself a crime.


I am surprised indirectly some people are trying to make other bloggers of 
this list afraid by giving legal worning and refraining the discussion as a 
whole.


Radio Udaan has also revealed many positive and good things about various 
NGO's in previously broadcasted shows, why those organizations have not 
raised any question then and why Radio Udaan was not rewarded for that work 
if today we are talking about the legal actions to be taken against a media 
mode like Radio udaan.


Every matter for every indivisual or group is sensitive and couple of weeks 
back a large number of the subscriber of this list have discussed an issue 
related to rape by ablind accused, why this discussion was not interupted? 
Was that matter not sensitive for the said accused?
How we can be selective about what sensitive matter is to be discussed or 
what not.


Let's try to resolve every issue by accepting the pits and falls and do not 
try to divert from the main cause of concern


And please also do not try to stop the voices in the name of legal worning. 
The doors of law are open to everyone and lawyers are available to every 
citizen of India.


this entire issue was already brought under public domain by various media 
channels.


It would have been nice if one could simply say that we are working towards 
this matter and we would require the support from all of you but 
unfortunately some members are being threaten or worned. This is not a right 
message.


This would be my final message unless we receive any unsolicited or 
threatening response.


Thanks,

Amit Bhatt
- Original Message - 
From: "Radio Udaan via Ai" 

To: "ai" 
   Cc: "Radio Udaan" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 6:29 PM
Subject: [Ai] Official statement of Radioudaan pertaining to the discussion 
on latest incident in Nab Delhi




Official statement of Radioudaan pertaining to the discussion on
latest incident in Nab Delhi
Dear all,
Greetings from Radio Udaan
We, radioudaan, a disability community radio work only and only for
community and talk about improving the conditions of brothers and
sisters in the community. Recently we had conducted a discussion on
the molestation case which took place in NAB, Delhi. Since there are
so many rumors which r floating around and in this regard we have come
up with our official statement to clear the air. We have got many
feedback with respect to the discussion we had last evening and many r
very happy to see us raise this topic as best as we could. On the
other hand also we got many complaints from many organizations who r
very disturbed with our reporting. Also a few individuals also
complained on the coverage.
Radio Udaan is a very responsible station and we take full
responsibility on our coverage. We quote Mr. Prashant Ranjan Verma who
has written the following statement on a social platform.,
(The incident reported in the newspapers and by Radio Udaan is under
the POCSO act where people are forbidden to reveal anything which
could lead to the
Identity of the victims.
The way people discuss things on the AI list, I am afraid it could
invite legal action by the police.
So, please do not allow this to go through. I am of course available
to answer questions on phone or personal email.
Yesterday Radio Udaan has done a very disturbing show on this already
and they got lot of complains already.
Thanks,
Prashant Verma)

We would also like to clarify that we take full responsibility and are
ready to face any legal action with regards to our show. As far as the
statement of Mr. Verma that Radio Udaan has done a very disturbing
show and we have got a lot of complaints for that we would like to
clarify that we have got just one complaint which was more of a
threatening call rather than being a complaint.
In India we have right to speak so we cannot stop anyone from
presenting their views and as per the revealing of identity is
concerned we have already removed the objectionable stuff from the
show and we have posted a statement on you tube also. This statement
is given by our general secretary Mr. Danish mahajan and one can
easily listen to it by typing radioudaan statement on latest
discussion on incident in NAB delhi.

Whenever in future we will do such a show organizations will get
disturbed with our coverage and this is bound to happen as such
incidents are very disturbing in nature but we will continue to do
such shows and make people disturbed. We are very happy that our
reporting and coverage make some people get disturbed and we also hope
that bringing such incidents to light will make a better environment
for us all in the society.
We request all the 

Re: [Ai] Official statement of Radioudaan pertaining to the discussion on latest incident in Nab Delhi

[avinash shahi via Ai]

As we lambast government for its failure, So we have equal rights to
dwell deep into wrong-doing in the NGO sector also. They afterall seek
money in the name of blind people's welfare.The recent incedent which
surfaced at National Association for the blind Delhi is just a tip of
the iceberg. Over the last two years the sexual assaults faced by
children and female residents have been widely reported in the media.
I remember, the female students at NAB Bangalore complaint harassment
against the NAB Bangalore officials, and the Karnataka CCPD took  some
action after being pressured by the civil society. The Panch Koyaan
school in Delhi which is also known as 'andh Maha vidyalay' was also
in the news recently where scenior students continued abusing junior
students sexually for years and the administration of the school took
no action. I also remember couple of years back, A reporter working
with Manorma magazine has brought forth the issue of sexual assaults
faced by women residents at Sant Nagar hostel by the donors and the
administration didn't barred donors from visiting hostels.
notwithstanding the unreported harassments which go unnoticed in
hostels where blind children/female students reside, The above cited
case studies paint a very scary portrayal of insecure atmosphere which
impede the overall development of blind children. Donation is the key
to sustaining these institutions but putting at stake the
psychological and physical well-being of young students raises several
burning questions about day-to-day functioning of such institutions.


 On 9/7/17, r k sarin via Ai  wrote:
> Shalini ji, sorry to say that if we are doing something goodd, why do we
> afraid of anything. To discover something one is supposed to be brave. If we
> cover the filth, it will be revealed--may be after some time. Why not to be
> honest and peep in the deep. It is not necessary that things are happening
> due to the administration but its basic reason is supposed to be traced.
> Hope you do not mind it because I am saying all this with good intention as
> I am also running a small NGO within my limitation and it hurts me if an NGO
> is defamed but, at the same time, if something is going wrong in any
> institution, it should provoke all sensible citizens to approach the
> authorities to find its roots.
>
> R.K. Sarin
>   - Original Message -
>   From: NAB India Centre For Blind Women Delhi via Ai
>   To: Share, empower 
>   Cc: NAB India Centre For Blind Women Delhi
>   Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 6:51 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Ai] Official statement of Radioudaan pertaining to the
> discussion on latest incident in Nab Delhi
>
>
>   I think the only concern right now in the mind of NAB should be the
> victims and their emotional balance and that of other kids. Rest has been
> done with the police complaint.
>
>
>   It should just be a road map for other organizations to keep a check on
> visitors. And there's no room for slain and slander here. The case details
> have been given to police and media.
>
>
>   Some discussion at Radio udaan did go out of sync yesterday and was not
> required. It's a sensitive issue and let's handle it sensitively for the
> benefit of the kids.
>
>
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>   NAB shall make plans to empower itself with better policies to secure kids
> even further in the wake of the changing face of society.
>
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>   Regards
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Re: [Ai] [DKIM Failure] Re: Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

[Asudani, Rajesh via Ai]

I think antecedents of volunteers also must be checked.
However, not checking antecedents is different from deliberately allowing bad 
people to come in and volunteer.
Whatever, management should learn lessons for future.


From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of r k 
sarin via Ai
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 2:13 PM
To: Share, empower 
Cc: r k sarin
Subject: [DKIM Failure] Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

I do not know whether mail will be covered or not, but still writing with few 
questions. Is NAB Delhi not a voluntary organisation running a school for the 
blind students and is it not the fact that it is not an individual business? 
Why personal then and why indirect threat of police under the term 'perhaps'. 
Nab did well by lodging an FIR against person but are we not interested to go 
beyond in the interest of organisation who such incident took place in the 
hostel and we cannot save our skin by saying that it is a sudden incidence. 
Nothing happens suddenly. Nothing hhappens suddenly in this world and with a 
person who is cclaimed to be physiccally and mentally unfit. Voluntary work 
never means to permit the worstt of the society to the blind persons and that 
is why I used to talk about the pathetic condition of the blind in terms of the 
outlook towards them by the society at large and the administrators of the 
majority of the voluntary organisations. Are we not interested in bettter image 
of this prestigious institution and do we not need to peep into facts in a 
genuine manner to see the better future of this institutions. If today, we make 
use of the useless tactics by avoiding discussion or making inquiry about these 
things, I strongly feel that we are the enemy of this institution and it will 
wither away with its misdeeds. to
- Original Message -
From: Prashant Ranjan Verma via Ai
To: 'Harish Kotian via Ai'
Cc: Prashant Ranjan Verma
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 9:54 AM
Subject: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

Dear Harish,
The incident reported in the newspapers and by Radio Udaan is under the POCSO 
act where peple are forbidden to reveal anything which  could lead to the 
identity of the victims.
The way peple discuss things on the AI list, I am afraid it could invite legal 
action  by the police.
So, please do not allow this to go through. I am ofcourse availableto 
answer fquestions on phone or personal email.
Yesterday Radio Udaan has done a very disturbing show on this already and they 
got  lot of complains already.

Thanks,

Prashant Verma

Creating the Best way to Read and Publish
http://www.daisy.org


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Re: [Ai] Official statement of Radioudaan pertaining to the discussion on latest incident in Nab Delhi

[Amit Bhatt via Ai]

- Original Message - 
From: "Radio Udaan via Ai" 

To: "ai" 
Cc: "Radio Udaan" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 6:29 PM
Subject: [Ai] Official statement of Radioudaan pertaining to the discussion 
on latest incident in Nab Delhi




Official statement of Radioudaan pertaining to the discussion on
latest incident in Nab Delhi
Dear all,
Greetings from Radio Udaan
We, radioudaan, a disability community radio work only and only for
community and talk about improving the conditions of brothers and
sisters in the community. Recently we had conducted a discussion on
the molestation case which took place in NAB, Delhi. Since there are
so many rumors which r floating around and in this regard we have come
up with our official statement to clear the air. We have got many
feedback with respect to the discussion we had last evening and many r
very happy to see us raise this topic as best as we could. On the
other hand also we got many complaints from many organizations who r
very disturbed with our reporting. Also a few individuals also
complained on the coverage.
Radio Udaan is a very responsible station and we take full
responsibility on our coverage. We quote Mr. Prashant Ranjan Verma who
has written the following statement on a social platform.,
(The incident reported in the newspapers and by Radio Udaan is under
the POCSO act where people are forbidden to reveal anything which
could lead to the
Identity of the victims.
The way people discuss things on the AI list, I am afraid it could
invite legal action by the police.
So, please do not allow this to go through. I am of course available
to answer questions on phone or personal email.
Yesterday Radio Udaan has done a very disturbing show on this already
and they got lot of complains already.
Thanks,
Prashant Verma)

We would also like to clarify that we take full responsibility and are
ready to face any legal action with regards to our show. As far as the
statement of Mr. Verma that Radio Udaan has done a very disturbing
show and we have got a lot of complaints for that we would like to
clarify that we have got just one complaint which was more of a
threatening call rather than being a complaint.
In India we have right to speak so we cannot stop anyone from
presenting their views and as per the revealing of identity is
concerned we have already removed the objectionable stuff from the
show and we have posted a statement on you tube also. This statement
is given by our general secretary Mr. Danish mahajan and one can
easily listen to it by typing radioudaan statement on latest
discussion on incident in NAB delhi.

Whenever in future we will do such a show organizations will get
disturbed with our coverage and this is bound to happen as such
incidents are very disturbing in nature but we will continue to do
such shows and make people disturbed. We are very happy that our
reporting and coverage make some people get disturbed and we also hope
that bringing such incidents to light will make a better environment
for us all in the society.
We request all the organizations that instead of stopping us they must
improve the environment in their circle
That would help us to cover positive news and make the society aware
of some new improvements in the community.
Whatever the consequences may be we will work for our community and
will keep on talking about all the positives and negatives openly…
Here are the you tube links of show of discussion and official
statement by radio udaan.
https://youtu.be/3P4s2W0E4vI
https://youtu.be/cpcXzAp-9tY

Thank you
Radio udaan team!!!
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Re: [Ai] sugamya pustakalaya download link is not working

[Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi via Ai]

hi all,
I tried with internet download manager but connection time out unable
to download the file.
don't know why this error not fixing. if we unable to download file
then what is usage of this.
yesterday I asked how to replace IP address with download URL,
still waiting for method.
I request
please fix the issue.




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> Hey Akash,
>
> Thanks a lot, I am able to download the book.
>
> It is even easier with internet download manager if we add our login
> credentials in the sights login tabe under IDM options.
>
> Cheers,
> Ajay
>
> On 9/6/17, Akash Gupta via Ai  wrote:
>> give me your link which is showing on sugamya. I will try to give you
>> right link.
>>
>> On 05/09/2017, Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi via Ai
>>  wrote:
>>> how to replace with IP address? in the download URL I pasted my IP
>>> address after ftp:// is it right method? but still problem loading
>>> page.
>>> regards.
>>> 
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>>> On 9/5/17, Akash Gupta via Ai 
>>> wrote:
 I have successfully downloded all the requested books. I replaced my
 IP address in the download link with "library.daisyindia.org" and then
 pasted it in address bar. Now a days sugamya library gives links with
 our IP address. there is a technical issue in library.

 On 31/08/2017, Akash Gupta  wrote:
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>
> On 27/08/2017, Mohit Gupta via Ai 
> wrote:
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>> I have download some books from sugamya. after some time download
>> link
>> has been available in my download request  page. when I enter on the
>> link of download it doesn't work. I am facing this problem from three
>> to four days.
>> What should I do?
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Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

[r k sarin via Ai]

Kanchan ji, do you think that this superfluous approach will help NAB and its 
institutions in a longer run. Why not to talk about the dilemma of the 
NGOs--services vs. management of funds. purely person outlook.

R.K. Sarin
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kanchan Pamnani via Ai 
  To: 'Share, empower ' 
  Cc: Kanchan Pamnani 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 6:14 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident


  Prashant, 

  Most NGOs hide such incidents therefore we are proud of you for taking the 
right steps.  

  Maybe other NGOs will learn and our faith in the system will be revived. 

   

  Incidents like this happen unfortunately. You can tighten your security etc 
but this can happen again. 

  Much harassment will be doled out to the alleged accused but the same 
harassment will be doled out in greater measure to your organisation and its 
staff and members first. Unfortunately this is how the legal system works in 
India.

  Please keep a track of the matter because if you don't the matter will slip 
under the carpet. This  will take some time to end. 

  You will need to track the police.

  Many in this group have a connection direct or indirect with NAB Delhi and 
would like to keep a track of the  newspaper reports etc. 

  Yes no names must or should be revealed. 

   

  We are with you please go the whole hog even if there is someone from inside 
who is going to be implicated as an accomplice.

  Kanchan   

   

  From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
Prashant Ranjan Verma via Ai
  Sent: 06 September 2017 09:54
  To: 'Harish Kotian via Ai'
  Cc: Prashant Ranjan Verma
  Subject: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

   

  Dear Harish,

  The incident reported in the newspapers and by Radio Udaan is under the POCSO 
act where peple are forbidden to reveal anything which  could lead to the 
identity of the victims. 

  The way peple discuss things on the AI list, I am afraid it could invite 
legal action  by the police. 

  So, please do not allow this to go through. I am ofcourse availableto 
answer fquestions on phone or personal email.

  Yesterday Radio Udaan has done a very disturbing show on this already and 
they got  lot of complains already. 

   

  Thanks,

   

  Prashant Verma 

   

  Creating the Best way to Read and Publish

  http://www.daisy.org   

   



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Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

[r k sarin via Ai]

I do not know whether mail will be covered or not, but still writing with few 
questions. Is NAB Delhi not a voluntary organisation running a school for the 
blind students and is it not the fact that it is not an individual business? 
Why personal then and why indirect threat of police under the term 'perhaps'. 
Nab did well by lodging an FIR against person but are we not interested to go 
beyond in the interest of organisation who such incident took place in the 
hostel and we cannot save our skin by saying that it is a sudden incidence. 
Nothing happens suddenly. Nothing hhappens suddenly in this world and with a 
person who is cclaimed to be physiccally and mentally unfit. Voluntary work 
never means to permit the worstt of the society to the blind persons and that 
is why I used to talk about the pathetic condition of the blind in terms of the 
outlook towards them by the society at large and the administrators of the 
majority of the voluntary organisations. Are we not interested in bettter image 
of this prestigious institution and do we not need to peep into facts in a 
genuine manner to see the better future of this institutions. If today, we make 
use of the useless tactics by avoiding discussion or making inquiry about these 
things, I strongly feel that we are the enemy of this institution and it will 
wither away with its misdeeds. to 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Prashant Ranjan Verma via Ai 
  To: 'Harish Kotian via Ai' 
  Cc: Prashant Ranjan Verma 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 9:54 AM
  Subject: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident


  Dear Harish,

  The incident reported in the newspapers and by Radio Udaan is under the POCSO 
act where peple are forbidden to reveal anything which  could lead to the 
identity of the victims. 

  The way peple discuss things on the AI list, I am afraid it could invite 
legal action  by the police. 

  So, please do not allow this to go through. I am ofcourse availableto 
answer fquestions on phone or personal email.

  Yesterday Radio Udaan has done a very disturbing show on this already and 
they got  lot of complains already. 

   

  Thanks,

   

  Prashant Verma 

   

  Creating the Best way to Read and Publish

  http://www.daisy.org   

   



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Re: [Ai] need help with yahoo group

[Dhananjay Bhole via Ai]

Hello Mahendra,

Please find my Email ID here dhananjay bh...@gmail.com You can send
the letter. I didn't get your email that's the reason I am disturbing
this discussion thread by sending different message.
Sorry.
Regards

On 7/31/17, Mahendra Galani via Ai  wrote:
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