Re: AI-GEOSTATS: Correlation between kriging residuals and input data

2008-02-06 Thread Gerald van den Boogaart
Dear Gregoire, Still, part of the question remained unanswered. We all agree that in The real issue was however the fact that the investigated dataset was not considered to present a pure nugget efffect! What are thus the requirements for not observing this decrease and how

Re: AI-GEOSTATS: Correlation between kriging residuals and input data

2008-02-06 Thread Michael Hohn
Dear Gregoire, I just recently read your original question. I've not read all the replies since, so I hope what I say is not redundant or repetitive. The phenomenon you are seeing is due to the smoothing effect of kriging. This effect increases with geographic distance of estimates from

RE: AI-GEOSTATS: Correlation between kriging residuals and input data

2008-02-05 Thread Gregoire Dubois
Dear list, I received a few more replies from Jon Skoien, Gerald van den Boogaart, Denis Marcotte and Yücel Tandoğdu, to my question on the correlation between kriging residuals and my input data. So many thanks to all for the replies that all go in the same direction (please send your replies

Re: AI-GEOSTATS: Correlation between kriging residuals and input data

2008-01-31 Thread seba
Hi Gregoire If I have understood the problem, the weird thing is that if there is a strong correlation between data and residuals and your data show continuity, the residuals should not present a pure nugget effect. Sebastiano T. At 12.59 30/01/2008, Gregoire Dubois wrote: Dear list,

AI-GEOSTATS: Correlation between kriging residuals and input data

2008-01-30 Thread Gregoire Dubois
Dear list, Having fit a variogram to a dataset (indoor radon measurements) and applied cross-validations, I noticed the perfect negative correlation (-0.95) between my kriging residuals and my input data. This means that I am overestimating as much the low values as I am underestimating the

RE: AI-GEOSTATS: Correlation between kriging residuals and input data

2008-01-30 Thread bob sandefur
Bob From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregoire Dubois Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 05:00 To: ai-geostats@jrc.it Subject: AI-GEOSTATS: Correlation between kriging residuals and input data Dear list, Having fit a variogram to a dataset (indoor radon

RE: AI-GEOSTATS: Correlation between kriging residuals and input data

2008-01-30 Thread Gregoire Dubois
-GEOSTATS: Correlation between kriging residuals and input data Gregoire, If you interpolate with a pure nugget effect, this is what you would expect for cross validation residuals because the predictions are constant, except that usually the residuals are defined as (observed - predicted) which

RE: AI-GEOSTATS: Correlation between kriging residuals and input data

2008-01-30 Thread bob sandefur
Lakewood, Co 80228 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregoire Dubois Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 05:00 To: ai-geostats@jrc.it Subject: AI-GEOSTATS: Correlation between kriging residuals and input data Dear list, Having fit a variogram to a dataset (indoor

Re: AI-GEOSTATS: Correlation between kriging residuals and input data

2008-01-30 Thread Carme Hervada i Sala
an official position of the European Commission. -Original Message- From: Edzer Pebesma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 January 2008 14:13 To: Gregoire Dubois Cc: ai-geostats@jrc.it Subject: Re: AI-GEOSTATS: Correlation between kriging residuals and input data Gregoire, If you interpolate

Re: AI-GEOSTATS: Correlation between kriging residuals and input data

2008-01-30 Thread Michael Mudrey
Dear Gregoire As one who has dealt extensively with radon (but not from the statistical world), I would appreciate it if you could post to one of your sites either histogram in either log or some other plot. (or your data if possible) I have been dealing with over 50,000 data points

Re: AI-GEOSTATS: Correlation between kriging residuals and input data

2008-01-30 Thread Ashton Shortridge
Hello Gregoire, and list, I'd guess that, although you may be seeing some spatial structure in your data, the effective range of your model may be less than the minimum distance between the locations you are predicting and their closest known locations. In other words, your model may