[sword-devel] Vertical whitespace

2013-01-19 Thread DM Smith
I've noticed that OSIS modules sometimes render with a lot of vertical whitespace (blank lines). I'd like for this to be sorted as part of the next release. I don't think it'd be too hard. I've been in the osishtmlhref filter to see if I could figure it out, but it is beyond me. So this is a

[sword-devel] Pre-verse div and headings

2013-01-19 Thread DM Smith
This might be related to the other thread of name normalization that is discussing intros and headings. Prior to the pre-verse div, everything that was pre-verse was a title, aka heading. The purpose of the pre-verse div was to allow any kind of markup between verses. The net result is that

Re: [sword-devel] Complete Osis Commentary Example

2013-01-16 Thread DM Smith
You are missing: SourceType=OSIS It is defaulting to Plaintext. On Jan 16, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Pola Edward 5...@hotmail.com wrote: Sorry for my late response , these are the contents of my config file [frtadros] DataPath=./modules/comments/rawcom/frtadros/ ModDrv=RawCom Version=0.1

Re: [sword-devel] Complete Osis Commentary Example

2013-01-09 Thread DM Smith
I hope to as soon as I get some time. The document that you have below looks correct. I'm wondering if there is a problem with how it is stored as a module and how the SWORD engine handles it. If it shows correctly in BibleDesktop (or another JSword front-end) then the problem is not in your

Re: [sword-devel] Finding out copyright programatically

2013-01-07 Thread DM Smith
that means programatically as the licensee but also display the terms of the license (publicy) since (presumably) it has already been worked out with Crossway and both parties understand what it means. ~A On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 5:59 PM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: Yes

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire mirroring

2013-01-07 Thread DM Smith
alone produced. If there had been an attitude of 'open but undecided' reservation about the matter, rather than outright 'hostility' its likely the issues you are raising now could have been dealt with more readily. ~A On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 2:17 PM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org

Re: [sword-devel] Exclusive Rights Granting Crosswire License to Distribute

2013-01-07 Thread DM Smith
On Jan 7, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Andrew Thule thules...@gmail.com wrote: The wording of your request is inviting a go pound sand response. Please be careful in how you word things. DM, I will be careful how I word things because such advice is always prudent advice. That said, I

Re: [sword-devel] Exclusive Rights Granting Crosswire License to Distribute

2013-01-07 Thread DM Smith
On Jan 7, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Andrew Thule thules...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 11:12 AM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: No, we cannot publish the terms of licensing agreements. Think about it. These are confidential, privileged contracts between organizations. Umm

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire mirroring

2013-01-07 Thread DM Smith
manage this. So I'm speaking specifically about Bibletime, Xiphos, Alkitab, PocketSword, and Eloquent. If there are other clients out there, and Crosswire pursues 'mirrors', that decision will influence development. ~A On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 12:55 PM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org

Re: [sword-devel] ISV status?

2013-01-07 Thread DM Smith
On Jan 7, 2013, at 1:19 PM, Andrew Thule thules...@gmail.com wrote: DM, all of which you said is reasonable; no issues from me. My point was in the efforts to assist with module develoment, I apparently crossed some line. I offered to send an OSIS update, and made a testing version of it

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire mirroring

2013-01-07 Thread DM Smith
that they expect that a module is in one and only one repository. The behavior is undefined if it occurs in more than one. ~A On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 1:52 PM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: I guess I need more information on mirrors. Let's say that there are to mirrors X

Re: [sword-devel] ISV status?

2013-01-07 Thread DM Smith
On Jan 7, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Andrew Thule thules...@gmail.com wrote: Let's not reopen the DSS issue Agreed. I think that it was the foundation for the tone of responses you received. I think it was the elephant in the room. I thought you'd like to know that. In Him, DM

Re: [sword-devel] ISV status?

2013-01-06 Thread DM Smith
a checklist for these. I've just noticed over time that these have been reasons to reject a module. Hope this helps, DM Smith On Jan 6, 2013, at 1:02 AM, Andrew Thule thules...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 2:55 AM, Chris Little chris...@crosswire.org wrote: I credit you

Re: [sword-devel] Exclusive Rights Granting Crosswire License to Distribute

2013-01-06 Thread DM Smith
On Jan 6, 2013, at 10:40 AM, Andrew Thule thules...@gmail.com wrote: Since this has been a controversial topic recently (and since accusations have made the matter personal), can Crosswire please post (to the wiki) the terms of its licensing agreements with each Copyright holder (on a

Re: [sword-devel] Updating copyrighted modules

2013-01-06 Thread DM Smith
The typical way is to ask on the list. It is possible an old module is an orphan. There are several ways a module is orphaned: The source for the module is no longer available. The module maintainer is no longer willing/able/available to work on the module. This is true regarding any module,

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire mirroring

2013-01-06 Thread DM Smith
that is hosted along with questionable modules probably will give the appearance that CrossWire condones those modules. Especially when the modules are in the same repository. In Him, DM On Jan 4, 2013, at 9:09 AM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: From time to time, interest has been

Re: [sword-devel] Finding out copyright programatically

2013-01-06 Thread DM Smith
Yes. o.c.j.book.BookMetaData is the proper place for this. There are many of ways you can do it. There are several patterns in the class already. I'll leave the choice up to you. As Peter mentioned there are (at least) two questions that need to be answered: Redistributable? Are there modules

Re: [sword-devel] [jsword-devel] StrongNumber in indexing

2013-01-04 Thread DM Smith
is still needed. Both src and type are each sufficient to solve the problem. A bit more exploring to do on the KJV... Chris On 4 January 2013 21:07, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: H00 is not a valid Strong's number. The modules that have it should be re-done. Do you know which

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire mirroring

2013-01-04 Thread DM Smith
the mirrors that yum wants to use, making me wait a few days until the mirrors catch up. Adding in unofficial repositories complicates it even more. On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:18 PM, Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:06 PM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire mirroring

2013-01-04 Thread DM Smith
Andrew, How do you handle modules that are removed from CrossWire? Do you use rsync w/ --delete? -- DM On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:49 PM, Andrew Thule thules...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:06 PM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: Andrew, I was careful not to say what you

Re: [sword-devel] ISV status?

2013-01-03 Thread DM Smith
I can see how you might conclude that. However, when we get permission for a copyrighted work, we get permission for that copyright. If the work is updated, there is a new copyright and we have to obtain permission for that. In Him, DM On Jan 3, 2013, at 3:30 PM, Andrew Thule

Re: [sword-devel] ISV status?

2013-01-03 Thread DM Smith
for the clarification DM. Perhaps for the sake of clarity then, the .conf file's DistributionLicense= attribute could contain the version for which permission was granted (rather than appearing to be generic). ~A On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:35 PM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: I can

Re: [sword-devel] JSword and Alternative Versification

2012-12-21 Thread DM Smith
, DM Smith On Dec 21, 2012, at 6:36 AM, pola ashraf 5...@hotmail.com wrote: When JSword Will Support Alternative Versification ? I want to make Arabic Deutrocanonical Books and mainly I want it to be available to mobiles on And Bible Thanks

Re: [sword-devel] Search bug New Arabic Bible, Not Shaped SVD Version

2012-12-10 Thread DM Smith
IIRC, the StandardAnalyzer that SWORD uses doesn't allow for that. It has its own handling of the punctuation that is fixed. I've said before, the analyzer is only good for English like languages. In Him, DM On Dec 10, 2012, at 11:17 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote:

Re: [sword-devel] Indexing modules

2012-11-27 Thread DM Smith
I presume the problem is w JSword. Yes the index will be incomplete. So will viewing the module. Please open a Jira issue for it. In His Service, DM On Nov 27, 2012, at 3:13 AM, Chris Burrell ch...@burrell.me.uk wrote: Hi all It seems some modules are incorrectly generated. I'm getting

Re: [sword-devel] Search bug New Arabic Bible, Not Shaped SVD Version

2012-11-26 Thread DM Smith
languages. In Him, DM Smith On Nov 26, 2012, at 7:22 AM, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: Von: David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com So a similar patch would be necessary in principle to JSword ??? No. If And Bible does not have a problem, then Jsword does its job correctly

Re: [sword-devel] DSS (Biblical Dead Sea Scrolls based upon DJD translations)

2012-11-08 Thread DM Smith
Andrew, I'm not really wanting to get into the DSS discussion regarding legal matters as I'm not a lawyer. However, there are some things I'd like to note: At CrossWire we have a notion of what we are willing to include in our module repository. There are several factors that play into this.

Re: [sword-devel] usfx

2012-11-08 Thread DM Smith
It would be straightforward to model it in JSword after the GBF filter. It'd essentially be the equivalent of the usfm2osis script. That's a work in progress. And since usfm input is not clean having it in JSword is dubious at best. Also I don't see the value for modules unless the SWORD

Re: [sword-devel] DSS (Biblical Dead Sea Scrolls based upon DJD translations)

2012-11-08 Thread DM Smith
Greg, Andrew's original request was for QA help. That's very reasonable. I have asked for such in the past and will do so in the future. Sometimes, it has been for modules that cannot be made public or are encrypted. This is something that we can handle. We got sidetracked by the full public

[sword-devel] Dead Sea Scrolls in Cincinnati, OH

2012-11-08 Thread DM Smith
For those in the Cincinnati area, the Cincinnati Museum will have the Dead Sea Scrolls on display starting November 15 with a premiere. http://www.cincymuseum.org/dead-sea-scrolls/premiere ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org

Re: [sword-devel] How to compile And Bible from jsword from the upstream repo?

2012-10-29 Thread DM Smith
Just got a Google Nexus 7. So am eager to get my feet wet. BTW, the 16G is being phased out by the 32G. As such the price dropped from $250 to $200. -- DM On Oct 29, 2012, at 11:56 AM, Martin Denham mjden...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Matej, There is a jsword-tweaks project in the And Bible

Re: [sword-devel] Sword utilities (Win32) r2693 ?

2012-10-23 Thread DM Smith
If you see $Rev$, then SVN was not used to do the checkout of the file. The date is indicative of the build and presumably of the checkout. Typically, a developer will get all the current files before doing a build. You can use the command svn log to get a history of the file and you can

[sword-devel] OSIS Schema

2012-10-14 Thread DM Smith
The OSIS schema is a bit convoluted how it allows two different document models. I've been thinking that it might make sense to have three distinct OSIS schemas. The one we have now would be one of the three. The other two would be for the other two document models. The problem I'm coming up

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Schema

2012-10-14 Thread DM Smith
On Oct 14, 2012, at 9:19 PM, Daniel Owens dcowen...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/14/2012 06:19 PM, DM Smith wrote: The OSIS schema is a bit convoluted how it allows two different document models. I've been thinking that it might make sense to have three distinct OSIS schemas. The one we have now

[sword-devel] OSIS catchWord

2012-10-14 Thread DM Smith
In working on the ESV, catchWord is used a lot in notes to tie the note to the text in the verse. I'm running into a problem with Exodus 3:14. The input text I'm coming from is: verse num=14 God said to Moses, “span class=divine-nameI am who I am/span.”note class=alternativeOr span

Re: [sword-devel] Sword -r2741

2012-10-12 Thread DM Smith
Osis2mod is not affected by any of the recent changes. If you built your module with an earlier, it'd be a good idea to build it with the most recent to test your content. I believe that the utility lookup will give you a view into how verses are stored and rendered. In Him, DM On Oct

Re: [sword-devel] osis2mod warnings

2012-10-11 Thread DM Smith
On Oct 10, 2012, at 1:02 AM, Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com wrote: There are two osis2mod warnings I'm getting that seem strange to me. The first is when it encounters post-verse material. It will issue a warning such as follows: INFO(V11N): Jude is not in the KJV versification.

Re: [sword-devel] Chinese lucene problem

2012-10-07 Thread DM Smith
SWORD uses an English analyzer (StandardAnalyzer) that works well for Latin-1 languages and for languages that bear some passing similarity to English (e.g. spaces between words, phonetic spelling, ...), but it does not do well with others. The Lucene project has a few Chinese analyzers.

Re: [sword-devel] Chinese lucene problem

2012-10-07 Thread DM Smith
Because it is module.createSearchFramework, it has access to the conf and could vector to the right analyzer. It would be a very small change to the code, but with big impact. -- DM On Oct 7, 2012, at 7:40 PM, Karl Kleinpaste k...@kleinpaste.org wrote: DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org writes

Re: [sword-devel] Interverse Material (was: SWORD v1.7 status ?)

2012-09-30 Thread DM Smith
The sID=gen22 is the 22-nd generated id by osis2mod. There should be a corresponding eID=gen22 elsewhere in the file. The odd thing I see is the rendering of the title and the references. Everything is doubled up. Some other things to explore when the given example is handled: A Study Bible

[sword-devel] wiki vandalism

2012-09-26 Thread DM Smith
I'll be cleaning up some wiki vandalism today. For those that clean up the vandalism, please make sure that the old text is not in the block reason. Turns out that a user can post to their own talk page immediately. Has always been the case, even with the 4 day waiting period. And they can

Re: [sword-devel] wiki vandalism

2012-09-26 Thread DM Smith
if you have any questions. In Him, DM On Sep 26, 2012, at 9:36 AM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: I'll be cleaning up some wiki vandalism today. For those that clean up the vandalism, please make sure that the old text is not in the block reason. Turns out that a user can

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS IDs

2012-09-24 Thread DM Smith
Simple answer: No. Longer answer: Chapter and verse numbers are a late invention. They are not canonical. Different versifications split books at different chapter boundaries, e.g. Malachi in some traditions has 5 chapters. Regarding verses: Some examples: The canonical material that precedes

Re: [sword-devel] Insidious mismatched tag errors: recommendations

2012-09-21 Thread DM Smith
So far the discussion is around whether the xml is well-formed. Once you get that working, then you need to make sure it is valid wrt the OSIS schema. There's an old tool that will convert sgml to well-formed xml. I think it was James Clark's sx. I've used it successfully on initial conversions

Re: [sword-devel] Insidious mismatched tag errors: recommendations

2012-09-21 Thread DM Smith
Dreaded grammar error: s/If you're document/your document/ :) On Sep 21, 2012, at 1:27 PM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: So far the discussion is around whether the xml is well-formed. Once you get that working, then you need to make sure it is valid wrt the OSIS schema. There's

Re: [sword-devel] Insidious mismatched tag errors: recommendations

2012-09-21 Thread DM Smith
unmatched $topTagName from line $topLineNum (element: $topElement)\n; } On Sep 21, 2012, at 1:27 PM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: So far the discussion is around whether the xml is well-formed. Once you get that working, then you need to make sure it is valid wrt the OSIS schema. There's

Re: [sword-devel] AndBible

2012-09-19 Thread DM Smith
JSword is cranky if permissions are wrong. But I'm sure you checked that. It also validates the conf. Does the module work in BD? Cent from my fone so theer mite be tipos. ;) On Sep 19, 2012, at 5:04 AM, Martin Denham mjden...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Greg, All the above advice is correct and I

Re: [sword-devel] AndBible

2012-09-18 Thread DM Smith
Look in the language Other. On Sep 18, 2012, at 5:55 PM, Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm, then perhaps the issue is that the language is not being identified by And Bible. This is a locale that I've only recently created and it isn't in SWORD yet, as it is only partially

Re: [sword-devel] Jira is down...

2012-09-17 Thread DM Smith
I don't know if it can be suppressed. I don't know if it should. I don't know the impact of a mismatch of timezone, that is the difference between updating or hiding. I'll look. On Sep 17, 2012, at 7:02 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: The latest and greatest version of JIRA now

Re: [sword-devel] Locale differences

2012-09-16 Thread DM Smith
Yes, it throws the header info away. I've started a feeble attempt to have it read/parse it so that it can recommend parts of the conf. In His Service, DM On Sep 16, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com wrote: I'm pretty sure osis2mod simply discards all content in

Re: [sword-devel] Forums error?

2012-09-16 Thread DM Smith
Me too. Wiki was broken, Jira was broken, and apparently forums too. I'll look into it. -- DM On Sep 16, 2012, at 9:18 PM, Nic Carter niccar...@mac.com wrote: Are the forums currently misbehaving for others or just me? :) image.png Sent from my phone, hence this email may be short...

Re: [sword-devel] Jira is down...

2012-09-16 Thread DM Smith
Jira is back. I've upgraded it as well to the latest and greatest. Also, you'll notice that the url redirects from bugs to tracker. If that really bugs anyone I can change it back. In Him, DM On Sep 15, 2012, at 3:21 PM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: I'm looking

Re: [sword-devel] Forums error?

2012-09-16 Thread DM Smith
It just needed to be restarted. -- DM On Sep 16, 2012, at 10:46 PM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: Me too. Wiki was broken, Jira was broken, and apparently forums too. I'll look into it. -- DM On Sep 16, 2012, at 9:18 PM, Nic Carter niccar...@mac.com wrote: Are the forums

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki

2012-09-15 Thread DM Smith
Wiki is back. On Sep 15, 2012, at 3:30 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Still can't get past the wiki login screen. After attemped login, this URL gives a blank screen. http://crosswire.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special:UserLoginaction=submitlogintype=loginreturnto=Main_Page

Re: [sword-devel] Valid vs Best Practice XML

2012-09-15 Thread DM Smith
On Sep 14, 2012, at 8:15 PM, Chris Little chris...@crosswire.org wrote: On 09/14/2012 01:02 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: So I've been debugging a module display problem in BibleTime. I mentioned it on IRC with Troy the other day but we weren't able to connect at the same time to discuss

[sword-devel] Jira is down...

2012-09-15 Thread DM Smith
I'm looking into it. In Him, DM ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page

Re: [sword-devel] JIRA locked

2012-09-15 Thread DM Smith
Our posts crossed. :) I'm looking at it. In Him, DM On Sep 15, 2012, at 3:22 PM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: When I just tried to access JIRA, all I got was this page: http://www.crosswire.org/bugs/JiraLockedError David -- View this message in context:

Re: [sword-devel] Valid vs Best Practice XML

2012-09-14 Thread DM Smith
Just to focus the post in what I see at play. A few issues here: 1) Does OSIS's milestone form of container elements violate XML best practices and does it matter? The sID/eID is a common OSIS construct and, IIRC, in the TEI world. 2) What should SWORD filters do when outputting vertical

Re: [sword-devel] Locale differences

2012-09-13 Thread DM Smith
On Sep 13, 2012, at 2:53 AM, Chris Little chris...@crosswire.org wrote: On 09/12/2012 02:49 PM, DM Smith wrote: When they differed, I took a look at the input to understand the differences. IIRC, in every difference the input was ambiguous (e.g. v10 for this chapter's 10-th verse or Jud

Re: [sword-devel] Locale differences

2012-09-13 Thread DM Smith
On Sep 13, 2012, at 12:59 AM, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: On 12/09/12 22:49, DM Smith wrote: I few years ago I scraped all the modules (GBF, ThML and OSIS; Bibles and Commentaries) for their references. I then ran them through SWORD and through JSword and compared what

Re: [sword-devel] Locale differences

2012-09-13 Thread DM Smith
On Sep 13, 2012, at 8:57 AM, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: And then, we should at least for OSIS modules disable all parsing of unresolved free text references. I'll put that on the JSword todo list. ___ sword-devel mailing list:

Re: [sword-devel] Locale differences

2012-09-12 Thread DM Smith
On Sep 12, 2012, at 6:10 AM, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: So, Jsword's use of English as default first is simply wrong, unless the user has a way of undoing that. The problem, which SWORD has also, is that the parsing routine does not distinguish between user input and module or

Re: [sword-devel] Locale differences

2012-09-12 Thread DM Smith
On Sep 12, 2012, at 5:05 PM, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: On 12/09/12 14:51, DM Smith wrote: On Sep 12, 2012, at 6:10 AM, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net mailto:ref...@gmx.net wrote: So, Jsword's use of English as default first is simply wrong, unless the user has a way

Re: [sword-devel] Locale differences

2012-09-11 Thread DM Smith
On Sep 11, 2012, at 8:27 PM, Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 8:01 PM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: This is a hard question. And a good one. For the record (not saying it is right or that it is best or even good) here is how JSword does

Re: [sword-devel] The poor man's interlinear

2012-09-10 Thread DM Smith
While the reversal is not always possible, I think Peter's observation is correct, if I understood the thread at all. Today, the legacy encoding has a custom TTF font that displays the text perfectly. Someone had to create that font and that font maps from the text to the glyphs. That mapping

Re: [sword-devel] Locale differences

2012-09-10 Thread DM Smith
This is a hard question. And a good one. For the record (not saying it is right or that it is best or even good) here is how JSword does it: It does not use the Locale of the module. It uses the OSIS book names first. (Assumes that the majority of Book Names come from OSIS modules) Then it uses

[sword-devel] Wiki

2012-09-03 Thread DM Smith
I'm working on upgrading the wiki. Need to get the skin back. In Him, DM ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS book abbreviations for Sword updated

2012-08-27 Thread DM Smith
Thanks for the heads up. I'll update JSword accordingly. Let me know if you think I should wait a bit for greater stability. I'm guessing that the Paratext abbreviations are reasonable abbreviations for user input? Regarding the possibility of objections of inclusion: To me an osisID is of

Re: [sword-devel] Speech synthesis voices?

2012-08-19 Thread DM Smith
On Aug 19, 2012, at 5:57 PM, Karl Kleinpaste k...@kleinpaste.org wrote: Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com writes: TTS never struck me as something that is properly handled by the application but should only be offered on the system level Bear in mind that I implemented Read Aloud back

Re: [sword-devel] Speech synthesis voices?

2012-08-18 Thread DM Smith
Not sure it is needed. On the Mac one can highlight text and have it read in a voice of their choice. And yes it reads punctuation as that is assistive to the blind. Linux can read text (festival?) but I've never bothered to look into it. Xiphos builds it in. It can be done in Java, see:

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-16 Thread DM Smith
The ulbufnum error/warning has appeared for years. As you pointed out, it is deep in SWORD lib. Always looked benign w/in osis2mod. Probably should be looked into and fixed. In Him, DM On Aug 16, 2012, at 9:24 AM, Andrew Thule thules...@gmail.com wrote: Yes. Using debug produces

Re: [sword-devel] Any modern web ui available?

2012-08-14 Thread DM Smith
There's one under development: STEP by Tyndale House. See: http://www.crosswire.org/~chrisburrell/ Don't know how current it is. Certainly has a ways to go. The other choices for Mac are Bible Desktop, AlKitab, and FireBible (a plugin for FireFox). Not sure what you mean by filter keys in

Re: [sword-devel] Any modern web ui available?

2012-08-14 Thread DM Smith
. http://sourceforge.net/projects/bibletime/files/BibleTime%202/ From: DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum sword-devel@crosswire.org Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Any modern web ui available? There's one under development

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-09 Thread DM Smith
In addition to what others have said: The list that osis2mod -h produces is not hard copy, but rather it asks the SWORD library for the list. If osis2mod is statically compiled then the list is fixed at compile time. Otherwise it is fixed with the build of the SWORD library. Either way, when

[sword-devel] New resolution in JIRA

2012-08-06 Thread DM Smith
I've added a new resolution in JIRA: Upstream Problem It's better than Won't Fix when the problem needs to be fixed upstream. In Him, DM ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org

Re: [sword-devel] No errors. Valid OSIS. Not working. Looking for suggestions.

2012-08-02 Thread DM Smith
Try creating a raw module and open the data files with a text editor to see if they have what you expect. The -d 2 flag is useful in understanding the data file. I agree w/ Peter et al, it is almost always a conf or a file permission problem. In Him, DM On Aug 2, 2012, at 10:29 AM,

Re: [sword-devel] SCRIPT: Covert Traditional Book Names to Short Sword Names

2012-08-01 Thread DM Smith
Regarding the difference between the OSIS book abbreviations and abbr.conf: OSIS has a fixed abbreviation for each book. The SWORD Engine in parsing a reference tries to take arbitrary input and understand it. So the abbreviations there are for that purpose. They are also used as the best for

Re: [sword-devel] Titles and other Inter-verse material

2012-07-24 Thread DM Smith
On Jul 24, 2012, at 5:45 AM, David Haslam wrote: Quite so! Ignoring titles and all other preverse content for the purpose of this reply, I still find it strange that the only placement of the paragraph elements (in relation to verse eID and sID milestones) that works empirically without

Re: [sword-devel] Titles and other Inter-verse material

2012-07-23 Thread DM Smith
On Sun, 2012-07-22 at 17:38 -0400, DM Smith wrote: I had mentioned earlier that I'd send something on this. These thoughts are from working on a few modules and on osis2mod. There are several things that play into this: 1) Titles: These use the title element for their content. This has been

Re: [sword-devel] Titles and other Inter-verse material

2012-07-23 Thread DM Smith
As a front-end developer I don't like the special code either. I found that the problem comes because once a module is in the wild, within reason we need to support it. One example the NET module has bugs in it. The original OSIS is not well-formed xml. However, it is out there and the authors

Re: [sword-devel] Titles and other Inter-verse material

2012-07-23 Thread DM Smith
On Jul 23, 2012, at 6:46 AM, Matěj Cepl wrote: On 23/07/12 08:57, Peter von Kaehne wrote: Put simply, as a module maker I would prefer if osis2mod would simply stop interfering. Osis2mod should identify chunks of text and put them into the right places and then be done - as little

Re: [sword-devel] Titles and other Inter-verse material

2012-07-23 Thread DM Smith
On 07/23/2012 01:12 PM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: Von: DM Smith Mark titles with x-preverse. DM, this is exactly what we do at the moment - see svn/sword-tools/modules/misc_cleanup/titles_cleanup.pl (or some such path, sorry not at home) Not terribly successful, as it causes all kinds

[sword-devel] Titles and other Inter-verse material

2012-07-22 Thread DM Smith
I had mentioned earlier that I'd send something on this. These thoughts are from working on a few modules and on osis2mod. There are several things that play into this: 1) Titles: These use the title element for their content. This has been the focus of much of the discussion. The Show/Hide

Re: [sword-devel] usfm2osis.pl

2012-07-09 Thread DM Smith
Just a comment to the whole thread, regarding XML entities: Since we are using a schema and not a DTD for validation of OSIS, we don't have many entities that will validate: amp, lt, gt, quot, and apos. These should be used as sparingly as possible. Character references (x;) are allowed,

Re: [sword-devel] Musings about the Cherokee NT module

2012-07-02 Thread DM Smith
On Jul 2, 2012, at 9:19 PM, Chris Little wrote: On 7/2/2012 5:47 AM, Greg Hellings wrote: Is there an available (and proper-name-tagged!) version of the Bible in a sister tongue to Cherokee that we could use as the basis for comparisons? David - dewi seems a pretty distant comparison that

Re: [sword-devel] Musings about the Cherokee NT module

2012-07-02 Thread DM Smith
On Jul 2, 2012, at 10:38 PM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: On Jul 2, 2012, at 9:19 PM, Chris Little wrote: On 7/2/2012 5:47 AM, Greg Hellings wrote: Is there an available (and proper-name-tagged!) version of the Bible in a sister tongue to Cherokee that we could use as the basis

Re: [sword-devel] Musings about the Cherokee NT module

2012-07-01 Thread DM Smith
I think what Greg said was correct. I understood it the same way: Starting w/ a breakdown of the names in each verse in an English Bible, iterate over that set of verses in the Cherokee Bible, doing the following: For each word in the original Cherokee text transliterate into latin characters

Re: [sword-devel] Musings about the Cherokee NT module

2012-07-01 Thread DM Smith
- From: Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum sword-devel@crosswire.org Subject: [sword-devel] Musings about the Cherokee NT module Date: Sun, Jul 1, 2012 8:09 pm On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 1:48 PM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: I think what Greg

Re: [sword-devel] Musings about the Cherokee NT module

2012-06-30 Thread DM Smith
This is an interesting question regarding the preservation of original orthography, which may be unimportant to today's readers. Ignoring sentence starts and presuming that words that should begin with a capital letter are names. One could use the OSIS name element. The renderer would be

Re: [sword-devel] [jsword-devel] Arabic bible book names

2012-06-15 Thread DM Smith
in countries other than Egypt. However, there are no short names so he has agreed to enter them for us. Martin On 15 June 2012 13:34, Familie von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net mailto:ref...@gmx.net wrote: On 13/06/12 22:06, DM Smith wrote: On 06/13/2012 04:38 PM, Martin Denham wrote

[sword-devel] Wiki and spam

2012-06-04 Thread DM Smith
In getting the wiki back up, I didn't put any anti-spam prevention into place. As a result there were hundreds of new user accounts created in the last two weeks. I've deleted nearly everyone of them. If I deleted yours, accept my apology and create it again. Additionally, I cleaned up all

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki and spam

2012-06-04 Thread DM Smith
On 06/04/2012 12:50 PM, David Haslam wrote: Hi DM, Users might give variant answers to some of these questions! e.g. They could either answer Jesus or Christ to #1 or even give him a much longer name/title. Questions thus posed need to have unique answers. If they give an unexpected answer,

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki and spam

2012-06-04 Thread DM Smith
On 06/04/2012 01:53 PM, DM Smith wrote: On 06/04/2012 12:50 PM, David Haslam wrote: Hi DM, Users might give variant answers to some of these questions! e.g. They could either answer Jesus or Christ to #1 or even give him a much longer name/title. Questions thus posed need to have unique

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki and spam

2012-06-04 Thread DM Smith
Good point. Thanks. In Him, DM On Jun 4, 2012, at 6:47 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: Hello, I am afraid I cannot answer any of those questions, as I only read Bible in Russian and the names are different. Regards, Dmitrijs. On 04/06/12 17:45, DM Smith wrote: In getting

[sword-devel] Jira is back up

2012-06-03 Thread DM Smith
FYI, Jira (www.crosswire.org/bugs) is back up. I will be renewing the license and upgrading it soon. In Him, DM Smith ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions

Re: [sword-devel] TEI formatting, duplicated key (BDB Glosses)

2012-04-30 Thread DM Smith
On 04/30/2012 09:37 AM, Daniel Owens wrote: On 04/30/2012 06:54 AM, Chris Little wrote: On 4/30/2012 4:39 AM, David Troidl wrote: Hi Chris, I'm certainly no expert on your TEI dictionaries, but wouldn't it make sense to have the first key be one that would sort properly, and present the

Re: [sword-devel] TEI formatting, duplicated key (BDB Glosses)

2012-04-30 Thread DM Smith
On 04/30/2012 10:36 AM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: Hi DM, On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 12:00 AM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org mailto:dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: On 04/30/2012 09:37 AM, Daniel Owens wrote: On 04/30/2012 06:54 AM, Chris Little wrote: On 4/30/2012 4:39 AM

Re: [DISCUSS] Build/deploy Maven artifacts outside of Lucene/Solr

2012-04-24 Thread DM Smith
Responding to the thread as a whole, having read it with great interest. I'd be interested to know what packagers for distributions such as debian and fedora do with systems that patch 3rd party dependencies. I'll guess that if it is internalized as mentioned below that there is no problem.

[jira] [Commented] (LUCENE-3977) generated/duplicated javadocs are wasteful and bloat the release

2012-04-20 Thread DM Smith (Commented) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-3977?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13258348#comment-13258348 ] DM Smith commented on LUCENE-3977: -- Personally I'd like them not to be in the binary

Re: Upgrading Java on my Mac and IntelliJ

2012-04-17 Thread DM Smith
Thanks! On Apr 17, 2012, at 7:19 PM, Jan Høydahl jan@cominvent.com wrote: Same happened here. The installer removes 1.5 and 1.5.0 folders and replaces with softlink to the new JDK. Luckily I named my 1.5 JDK as 1.5.0_30 so it was still there, the only thing needed was add the

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